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	<title>Comments on: A Closer Look At Money Magazine&#8217;s Retirement Benchmarks</title>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/04/01/a-closer-look-at-money-magazines-retirement-benchmarks/#comment-227221</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 18:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So where is someone going to get this hypothetical 9% per year on their savings?  The stock market has gone up about 13% in the past 8 years total, not per year.  (^DJI was at 11,114 on 4/6/00, it&#039;s now at 12,609.)

Bonds are paying about 3.4%.  Real estate is nose diving.

Here&#039;s another problem with this formula:  Assuming I get to 3.5 times my salary at age 40 (I did), how do I get to 5.8 times my salary by age 45, in just five years?  After taxes, I only take home 3 times my single-year salary in five years, and there&#039;s stuff like food and housing to pay for  from that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So where is someone going to get this hypothetical 9% per year on their savings?  The stock market has gone up about 13% in the past 8 years total, not per year.  (^DJI was at 11,114 on 4/6/00, it&#8217;s now at 12,609.)</p>
<p>Bonds are paying about 3.4%.  Real estate is nose diving.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s another problem with this formula:  Assuming I get to 3.5 times my salary at age 40 (I did), how do I get to 5.8 times my salary by age 45, in just five years?  After taxes, I only take home 3 times my single-year salary in five years, and there&#8217;s stuff like food and housing to pay for  from that.</p>
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		<title>By: nitsuj</title>
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		<dc:creator>nitsuj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2007 04:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice article just one question ... how realistic is the 9% interest?
You should/could get this from Stocks/funds but it&#039;s not definite.
So how much can you be sure of getting... about 4%? maybe 5%?
How do the numbers look then? - I&#039;m not saying the numbers are wrong just asking for a &#039;realistic&#039; comparison.
Thanks]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice article just one question &#8230; how realistic is the 9% interest?<br />
You should/could get this from Stocks/funds but it&#8217;s not definite.<br />
So how much can you be sure of getting&#8230; about 4%? maybe 5%?<br />
How do the numbers look then? &#8211; I&#8217;m not saying the numbers are wrong just asking for a &#8216;realistic&#8217; comparison.<br />
Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2007 15:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The problem with the plan of working till 75 is that often times it&#039;s impossible.  What happens when you have back problems and can&#039;t work in that ideal shop in that flower store any more?  You have to have something to fall back on, and it has to be a big something to last you the rest of your life.  Yes, lots of people work into old age, but the difference is if they are forced to or not.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with the plan of working till 75 is that often times it&#8217;s impossible.  What happens when you have back problems and can&#8217;t work in that ideal shop in that flower store any more?  You have to have something to fall back on, and it has to be a big something to last you the rest of your life.  Yes, lots of people work into old age, but the difference is if they are forced to or not.</p>
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		<title>By: TiP</title>
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		<dc:creator>TiP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2007 06:15:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hasn&#039;t the whole concept of retirement, as in a total leisure lifestyle without any income at all, sort of become passe at this point?  I don&#039;t know of many people who think they&#039;ll be retiring at 60, let alone 65.  Certainly most of us expect to work at least part time even well into our 70s.

It seems to me that a better plan than retirement is  to find some kind of work that you enjoy doing and that you&#039;ll be able to do well into your 70s.  I suspect that most people 45 and under won&#039;t be &quot;retiring&quot; in the oldschool sense until about 75, so  best to find something you enjoy doing.

I also don&#039;t think that the oldschool retirement is healthy at all.  Best to keep body and mind active.

Oh, and one more point: I often think that retirement is wasted on old age.  Better to take that year or two off when you&#039;re still healthy enough to travel.  I did this a few years ago when I was 39 - took a year and a half off to travel (inexpensively), study, write, etc.  I called it my first retirement.  I hope to take another year or so off  around age 50.  

My father retired a few years back at 65, but my parents are not able to travel because of my mother&#039;s back  problems.  That showed me that waiting to enjoy life really isn&#039;t a good plan.  Best to enjoy now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hasn&#8217;t the whole concept of retirement, as in a total leisure lifestyle without any income at all, sort of become passe at this point?  I don&#8217;t know of many people who think they&#8217;ll be retiring at 60, let alone 65.  Certainly most of us expect to work at least part time even well into our 70s.</p>
<p>It seems to me that a better plan than retirement is  to find some kind of work that you enjoy doing and that you&#8217;ll be able to do well into your 70s.  I suspect that most people 45 and under won&#8217;t be &#8220;retiring&#8221; in the oldschool sense until about 75, so  best to find something you enjoy doing.</p>
<p>I also don&#8217;t think that the oldschool retirement is healthy at all.  Best to keep body and mind active.</p>
<p>Oh, and one more point: I often think that retirement is wasted on old age.  Better to take that year or two off when you&#8217;re still healthy enough to travel.  I did this a few years ago when I was 39 &#8211; took a year and a half off to travel (inexpensively), study, write, etc.  I called it my first retirement.  I hope to take another year or so off  around age 50.  </p>
<p>My father retired a few years back at 65, but my parents are not able to travel because of my mother&#8217;s back  problems.  That showed me that waiting to enjoy life really isn&#8217;t a good plan.  Best to enjoy now.</p>
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