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	<title>Comments on: Forget The Ads, Magazines Try To Sell You Stuff In The Content</title>
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		<title>By: Kat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 21:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, keeping your wallet in your back pocket ruins your back due to the mis-alignment that occurs from sitting at an angle.

I personally do not find this bit from the magazine to be offensive. It wasn&#039;t encouraging me to run out and trade in my 02 car or anything else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, keeping your wallet in your back pocket ruins your back due to the mis-alignment that occurs from sitting at an angle.</p>
<p>I personally do not find this bit from the magazine to be offensive. It wasn&#8217;t encouraging me to run out and trade in my 02 car or anything else.</p>
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		<title>By: MoreCents</title>
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		<dc:creator>MoreCents</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 20:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article, Trent! I worked for a catalog company for several years and the marketing department was quite aggressive in sending products to magazines. Getting their name and number listed in the back of the magazine was free advertising.

Something to consider next time there is an article listing &quot;top picks&quot; or &quot;favorite things&quot;. Remember all of those companies sent their products to the editors hoping they would feature them. I&#039;ve never looked at a magazine the same way again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article, Trent! I worked for a catalog company for several years and the marketing department was quite aggressive in sending products to magazines. Getting their name and number listed in the back of the magazine was free advertising.</p>
<p>Something to consider next time there is an article listing &#8220;top picks&#8221; or &#8220;favorite things&#8221;. Remember all of those companies sent their products to the editors hoping they would feature them. I&#8217;ve never looked at a magazine the same way again.</p>
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		<title>By: icup</title>
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		<dc:creator>icup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2007 18:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I keep mine in my front pocket. I don&#039;t wear baggy pants (nor are they too tight) so keeping it in the back pocket would be uncomfortable when sitting, and horribly insecure both from pick-pockets and just normal fallout. There is no way my wallet could ever fall out of my front pocket. And I hope if anybody every tries to pick my pocket up front, I would notice them basically trying to stick their hands down my pants. 

I&#039;m actually a little surprised Details would advocate carrying a wallet at all. Everyone knows that real playahs use a money clip. With one Benjamin on the outside and the rest in Hamiltons , Lincolns and Washingtons on the inside of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I keep mine in my front pocket. I don&#8217;t wear baggy pants (nor are they too tight) so keeping it in the back pocket would be uncomfortable when sitting, and horribly insecure both from pick-pockets and just normal fallout. There is no way my wallet could ever fall out of my front pocket. And I hope if anybody every tries to pick my pocket up front, I would notice them basically trying to stick their hands down my pants. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m actually a little surprised Details would advocate carrying a wallet at all. Everyone knows that real playahs use a money clip. With one Benjamin on the outside and the rest in Hamiltons , Lincolns and Washingtons on the inside of course.</p>
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		<title>By: rhbee</title>
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		<dc:creator>rhbee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2007 15:20:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you really want to think about this post and all of its ramifications, I highly recommend you take a look at a magazine called Adbusters.  It reminds me of FM radio before the advertisers found it.  Or internet radio right now before the FCC gets its grubby big hands around it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you really want to think about this post and all of its ramifications, I highly recommend you take a look at a magazine called Adbusters.  It reminds me of FM radio before the advertisers found it.  Or internet radio right now before the FCC gets its grubby big hands around it.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2007 14:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I&#039;d recommend something a bit more realistic should you feel the need to augment in that department.  I think a sock is traditional.  Plus, you&#039;d look awfully creepy pulling it out...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I&#8217;d recommend something a bit more realistic should you feel the need to augment in that department.  I think a sock is traditional.  Plus, you&#8217;d look awfully creepy pulling it out&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2007 12:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suppose Amy would recommend putting your wallet in your crotch. That would certainly make you more sexually attractive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose Amy would recommend putting your wallet in your crotch. That would certainly make you more sexually attractive.</p>
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		<title>By: brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2007 00:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since when is Details a magazine about attracting the &lt;i&gt;opposite&lt;/i&gt; sex?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since when is Details a magazine about attracting the <i>opposite</i> sex?</p>
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		<title>By: Brett McKay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brett McKay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2007 22:32:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree. Men&#039;s Health is another culprit of this. But I guess you should expect it, the whole point of the magazine is to get people to buy into the Men&#039;s Health Image. However, I don&#039;t think I&#039;ll ever have a problem being persuaded by an article. When Men&#039;s Health doe articles on fashion they suggest that your purchase $750 beach outfits. The day I spend $200 on a pair of linen chinos is the day I should be punched in the face.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree. Men&#8217;s Health is another culprit of this. But I guess you should expect it, the whole point of the magazine is to get people to buy into the Men&#8217;s Health Image. However, I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ll ever have a problem being persuaded by an article. When Men&#8217;s Health doe articles on fashion they suggest that your purchase $750 beach outfits. The day I spend $200 on a pair of linen chinos is the day I should be punched in the face.</p>
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		<title>By: sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2007 22:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So..where does everyone keep their wallet?  Front pocket? Man-purse? Shoe?  I&#039;ve always used my back pocket!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So..where does everyone keep their wallet?  Front pocket? Man-purse? Shoe?  I&#8217;ve always used my back pocket!</p>
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		<title>By: Amy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2007 21:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uhm, what exactly is the problem with this paragraph?  It seems to me to parse as &quot;It&#039;s one thing to resist the pressure to spend more money, it&#039;s another to carry your wallet in your back pocket.&quot;

And if you want to argue that the tone is condescending, it&#039;s also ironic in equal measure. &quot;Something in a better-looking bottle might make your hair look shinier&quot;? Does that really strike you as an uncomplicated endorsement of consumer culture?

Yes it&#039;s shallow and stuff-oriented.  But if you don&#039;t want to encounter shallow and stuff-oriented prose, why are you reading a magazine called Details in the first place?  It&#039;s selling a fantasy of yourself surrounded by cooler, newer, nicer stuff than the stuff you now own.  Will that make you happier?  Probably not.  But it&#039;s fun to imagine, and I prefer to presume that, like myself, the vast majority of readers of the magazine are capable of distinguishing fantasy from reality.

(Though, given the number of people here and in the dethroner thread who seem to have missed the irony, maybe I&#039;m being optimistic.  I do wonder, though, how many of the outraged commenters understand the irony themselves, but assume that others will miss it, in which case see above.)

And wallet in the back pocket?  No good.  It makes your rear look lumpy, and lumpy rear ends are not sexually attractive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uhm, what exactly is the problem with this paragraph?  It seems to me to parse as &#8220;It&#8217;s one thing to resist the pressure to spend more money, it&#8217;s another to carry your wallet in your back pocket.&#8221;</p>
<p>And if you want to argue that the tone is condescending, it&#8217;s also ironic in equal measure. &#8220;Something in a better-looking bottle might make your hair look shinier&#8221;? Does that really strike you as an uncomplicated endorsement of consumer culture?</p>
<p>Yes it&#8217;s shallow and stuff-oriented.  But if you don&#8217;t want to encounter shallow and stuff-oriented prose, why are you reading a magazine called Details in the first place?  It&#8217;s selling a fantasy of yourself surrounded by cooler, newer, nicer stuff than the stuff you now own.  Will that make you happier?  Probably not.  But it&#8217;s fun to imagine, and I prefer to presume that, like myself, the vast majority of readers of the magazine are capable of distinguishing fantasy from reality.</p>
<p>(Though, given the number of people here and in the dethroner thread who seem to have missed the irony, maybe I&#8217;m being optimistic.  I do wonder, though, how many of the outraged commenters understand the irony themselves, but assume that others will miss it, in which case see above.)</p>
<p>And wallet in the back pocket?  No good.  It makes your rear look lumpy, and lumpy rear ends are not sexually attractive.</p>
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		<title>By: icup</title>
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		<dc:creator>icup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2007 20:38:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How do you sit? Isn&#039;t it uncomfortable?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do you sit? Isn&#8217;t it uncomfortable?</p>
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		<title>By: hejustlaughs</title>
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		<dc:creator>hejustlaughs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2007 20:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>^^
I keep my wallet in my back pocket, it&#039;s a habit and in most of my pants it fits snugly.

It bulges a bit because of the tons of credit cards I have in there, but hey, it represents my financial savvy in trying to get the highest cashback % in every category.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^^<br />
I keep my wallet in my back pocket, it&#8217;s a habit and in most of my pants it fits snugly.</p>
<p>It bulges a bit because of the tons of credit cards I have in there, but hey, it represents my financial savvy in trying to get the highest cashback % in every category.</p>
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		<title>By: icup</title>
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		<dc:creator>icup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2007 20:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who keeps their wallet in their back pocket anyway? I would be too worried about losing it. It can&#039;t possibly fall out of or be picked from your front pocket.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who keeps their wallet in their back pocket anyway? I would be too worried about losing it. It can&#8217;t possibly fall out of or be picked from your front pocket.</p>
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		<title>By: Nishant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nishant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2007 19:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to admit that I get the magazine in question, but only because I had to use some miles that were about to expire.  I drive a 2000 car with almost 100,000 miles on it, and am nowhere close to letting it go.  I agree that most of those magazines are pretty much advertisements from cover to cover.  I leaf through them and once in a while, find some cool new gadget that I hadn&#039;t heard about, and then leave them on my airport seat, for someone else to do the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to admit that I get the magazine in question, but only because I had to use some miles that were about to expire.  I drive a 2000 car with almost 100,000 miles on it, and am nowhere close to letting it go.  I agree that most of those magazines are pretty much advertisements from cover to cover.  I leaf through them and once in a while, find some cool new gadget that I hadn&#8217;t heard about, and then leave them on my airport seat, for someone else to do the same.</p>
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