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	<title>Comments on: Overcoming The Social Obligation To Keep Up With The Joneses</title>
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		<title>By: reulte</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/04/10/overcoming-the-social-obligation-to-keep-up-with-the-joneses/#comment-92970</link>
		<dc:creator>reulte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 09:24:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A small story on the subject:
My mom (as smart as they come, Depression-era Kentucky-backwoods-poor childhood, and currently working on her $2nd million thru investments and frugality) enjoys driving past the local Starbucks.  One day a passenger asked her &quot;Why?  Did she enjoy the coffee/snacks that much?&quot;  My mom replied that she never went into the cafe-shop, but she just loved watching her investments.

You might try something in the same nature.  &quot;You just bought a Harley Davidson motorcycle?  Thanks, I have stock in that company!&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A small story on the subject:<br />
My mom (as smart as they come, Depression-era Kentucky-backwoods-poor childhood, and currently working on her $2nd million thru investments and frugality) enjoys driving past the local Starbucks.  One day a passenger asked her &#8220;Why?  Did she enjoy the coffee/snacks that much?&#8221;  My mom replied that she never went into the cafe-shop, but she just loved watching her investments.</p>
<p>You might try something in the same nature.  &#8220;You just bought a Harley Davidson motorcycle?  Thanks, I have stock in that company!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Katherine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katherine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 20:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can&#039;t believe the advice offered here! Brush your teeth and wash you car to address feelings of inadequacy that result from comparing yourself to others at work?!  Are you kidding me?  How about offering some - you are wonderful as you are affirmation?  Be proud of yourself for getting out of debt!  That is a GREAT accomplishment!  Don&#039;t waste time comparing yourself to others - someone will always have more, someone will always have less ... and neither of those people change that you will have what you have.  So enjoy it!  You are doing  a great job!  CONGRATS on being debt free!  Now just work on being proud of yourself!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t believe the advice offered here! Brush your teeth and wash you car to address feelings of inadequacy that result from comparing yourself to others at work?!  Are you kidding me?  How about offering some &#8211; you are wonderful as you are affirmation?  Be proud of yourself for getting out of debt!  That is a GREAT accomplishment!  Don&#8217;t waste time comparing yourself to others &#8211; someone will always have more, someone will always have less &#8230; and neither of those people change that you will have what you have.  So enjoy it!  You are doing  a great job!  CONGRATS on being debt free!  Now just work on being proud of yourself!</p>
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		<title>By: Carol Mickey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carol Mickey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2007 04:39:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I drove an old car, a 79 Caddy, and then an 84 for years and my husband and I were both frugal.  We bought a smaller house to live in that what we could affort.  We invested our money in IRA and stocks.  We buy loss leaders at the supermarket and shop thrift stores when we can.  My husband retired at 57 and we live a comfortable life.  You have to decide what is important to you.  If it is impressing other people so be it if that is what is important.  Myself, I do not care what other people think.  Read the Millionaire next door.  

Carol]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I drove an old car, a 79 Caddy, and then an 84 for years and my husband and I were both frugal.  We bought a smaller house to live in that what we could affort.  We invested our money in IRA and stocks.  We buy loss leaders at the supermarket and shop thrift stores when we can.  My husband retired at 57 and we live a comfortable life.  You have to decide what is important to you.  If it is impressing other people so be it if that is what is important.  Myself, I do not care what other people think.  Read the Millionaire next door.  </p>
<p>Carol</p>
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		<title>By: daydreamr</title>
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		<dc:creator>daydreamr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 15:06:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is never going to be an end to the game. If you get a &#039;better&#039; car someone else will out do you.  They will get &#039;nicer&#039; clothes, gadgets, etc. Attitude IS everything. If you feel inferior you will be. I wouldn&#039;t talk about $ because it tends to turn people into hungry vultures. Just act like they don&#039;t matter, and they don&#039;t. You&#039;ll do just fine.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is never going to be an end to the game. If you get a &#8216;better&#8217; car someone else will out do you.  They will get &#8216;nicer&#8217; clothes, gadgets, etc. Attitude IS everything. If you feel inferior you will be. I wouldn&#8217;t talk about $ because it tends to turn people into hungry vultures. Just act like they don&#8217;t matter, and they don&#8217;t. You&#8217;ll do just fine.</p>
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		<title>By: Docah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Docah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 18:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I love reading these posts and the replies.  It reminds me that what I&#039;m doing is the right thing for me. 

My friends scoffed a bit at first, then they realized I&#039;m living on half my income. Over time, I&#039;ve become the go-to guy on money, and many other things. Not the guy with the latest and greatest, just the guy with the things that work together. The guy with the well maintained reliable American car.  I don&#039;t mind that one bit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love reading these posts and the replies.  It reminds me that what I&#8217;m doing is the right thing for me. </p>
<p>My friends scoffed a bit at first, then they realized I&#8217;m living on half my income. Over time, I&#8217;ve become the go-to guy on money, and many other things. Not the guy with the latest and greatest, just the guy with the things that work together. The guy with the well maintained reliable American car.  I don&#8217;t mind that one bit.</p>
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		<title>By: Agent M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Agent M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 15:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ok, so when did driving your nice/reliable Ford, Dodge, or Chevy become unacceptable or not fancy? 

I love American Made Machines! 

Our American principles of being the best… are put at stake when we value/envy what other countries can make. Us as American can take that back, by growing a back bone and saying with PRIDE!  I drive a 1994 Ford Ranger with 190,000 miles! =)  

The only one who can make you feel inadequate/poor is yourself!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, so when did driving your nice/reliable Ford, Dodge, or Chevy become unacceptable or not fancy? </p>
<p>I love American Made Machines! </p>
<p>Our American principles of being the best… are put at stake when we value/envy what other countries can make. Us as American can take that back, by growing a back bone and saying with PRIDE!  I drive a 1994 Ford Ranger with 190,000 miles! =)  </p>
<p>The only one who can make you feel inadequate/poor is yourself!</p>
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		<title>By: viola</title>
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		<dc:creator>viola</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 15:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a great post Trent! I&#039;m in the same boat as you....the area I live in house value is min. 170k for a smaller house. Most people drive new cars, maybe not Lexus but nice cars. DH &amp; I are in the 25% tax bracket.

Guess what me &amp; DH drive? He drives a 99 Honda Accord w/ a dent in the side (not bad though). I drive a 97 Saturn 138k miles w/ back small corner window broken out (although it is covered with clear contact paper which has worked like a charm). I just can&#039;t bring myself to pay $300 for a stupid little window...when I know I could spend that on the mechanics of my car.

I used to be stuck in the trap of needing to buy things to feel like I was good financially. Now I know that nothing makes you more financially free than money in the bank (or in assets).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great post Trent! I&#8217;m in the same boat as you&#8230;.the area I live in house value is min. 170k for a smaller house. Most people drive new cars, maybe not Lexus but nice cars. DH &amp; I are in the 25% tax bracket.</p>
<p>Guess what me &amp; DH drive? He drives a 99 Honda Accord w/ a dent in the side (not bad though). I drive a 97 Saturn 138k miles w/ back small corner window broken out (although it is covered with clear contact paper which has worked like a charm). I just can&#8217;t bring myself to pay $300 for a stupid little window&#8230;when I know I could spend that on the mechanics of my car.</p>
<p>I used to be stuck in the trap of needing to buy things to feel like I was good financially. Now I know that nothing makes you more financially free than money in the bank (or in assets).</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 14:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When they talk about their gadget, talk about the ten percent you give to your favorite non-profits each year.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When they talk about their gadget, talk about the ten percent you give to your favorite non-profits each year.</p>
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		<title>By: DivaJean</title>
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		<dc:creator>DivaJean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 14:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On some level, you just have to get in the mindset that their issues are not yours. You do not have to &quot;fit in&quot; and be like them- just professional and work appropriate.

In my workplace, I rub elbows with co workers who may only be working for the health insurance. Their spouses own their business (home repair, etc) while the wives are cubicle rangers like me. I on the other hand, am the sole wage earner while my life partner is home with our 4 kids. No one can understand how I &quot;do it&quot; but then lunchtime talk goes into all the recreational shopping, keeping up with the Joneses type stuff- I phase out. I can recall a recent discussion about a co worker seeking to get her aged mother out shopping for a dress to wear to a wedding. Everyone was aghast that the co workers mom didn&#039;t want to- she would rather wear something she already had. The discussion around the table pretty much made it clear that nothing under $100 dress is acceptable. When I pointed out potentially talking the mom into going to reasonably priced stores as a compromise- everyone was equally aghast. Then I pointed out the fact that I had searched in all kinds of stores from the thrift shops on up to specialty stores for a decent dress to wear to a freind&#039;s wedding this summer- and ended up finding what I wanted at a discount store for $12. This was pooh poohed as something not really feasible.

You can try to explain, but they might not get it. Just stick to your own guns- don&#039;t start falling for some of the ideas above that basically try to trick people into thinking you are playing the game (buying a different car, etc). Once you start down that path, its harder to stop.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On some level, you just have to get in the mindset that their issues are not yours. You do not have to &#8220;fit in&#8221; and be like them- just professional and work appropriate.</p>
<p>In my workplace, I rub elbows with co workers who may only be working for the health insurance. Their spouses own their business (home repair, etc) while the wives are cubicle rangers like me. I on the other hand, am the sole wage earner while my life partner is home with our 4 kids. No one can understand how I &#8220;do it&#8221; but then lunchtime talk goes into all the recreational shopping, keeping up with the Joneses type stuff- I phase out. I can recall a recent discussion about a co worker seeking to get her aged mother out shopping for a dress to wear to a wedding. Everyone was aghast that the co workers mom didn&#8217;t want to- she would rather wear something she already had. The discussion around the table pretty much made it clear that nothing under $100 dress is acceptable. When I pointed out potentially talking the mom into going to reasonably priced stores as a compromise- everyone was equally aghast. Then I pointed out the fact that I had searched in all kinds of stores from the thrift shops on up to specialty stores for a decent dress to wear to a freind&#8217;s wedding this summer- and ended up finding what I wanted at a discount store for $12. This was pooh poohed as something not really feasible.</p>
<p>You can try to explain, but they might not get it. Just stick to your own guns- don&#8217;t start falling for some of the ideas above that basically try to trick people into thinking you are playing the game (buying a different car, etc). Once you start down that path, its harder to stop.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 14:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think most people need to realize that if you don&#039;t have all the resources in the world, there&#039;s no way you can afford all or even many of the material items that convey status. However, if you have enough resources to pick and choose, this is the best way to go. For me I&#039;ve had to overcome  considerable credit card debt by reducing spending. I drove a base model Nissan pickup that I bought used for nine years before I bought another new car in 2006. This pickup allowed me to save money so I could eventually buy the car I wanted. The nine years was a long time where I just lost interest in having a newer vehicle because I could not afford it. Having said that I am a car guy who knows which vehicles are worthy in terms of reliability, performance, engineering and value. If you know what you&#039;re buying and it works for you, don&#039;t worry about what others are trying to do with their status vehicles. Much of the time, they cost more to maintain and are not as reliable. Basically people who can afford to buy a status vehicle will be happy because they feel they&#039;re getting what they want, but you should be happy with what you have because it works for you and you have savings or investments that are working for you. Maybe people who have status vehicles have a comfortable amount of savings and investments as well. Basically everyon e needs to decide where their level of comfort is as far as spending, saving and investing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think most people need to realize that if you don&#8217;t have all the resources in the world, there&#8217;s no way you can afford all or even many of the material items that convey status. However, if you have enough resources to pick and choose, this is the best way to go. For me I&#8217;ve had to overcome  considerable credit card debt by reducing spending. I drove a base model Nissan pickup that I bought used for nine years before I bought another new car in 2006. This pickup allowed me to save money so I could eventually buy the car I wanted. The nine years was a long time where I just lost interest in having a newer vehicle because I could not afford it. Having said that I am a car guy who knows which vehicles are worthy in terms of reliability, performance, engineering and value. If you know what you&#8217;re buying and it works for you, don&#8217;t worry about what others are trying to do with their status vehicles. Much of the time, they cost more to maintain and are not as reliable. Basically people who can afford to buy a status vehicle will be happy because they feel they&#8217;re getting what they want, but you should be happy with what you have because it works for you and you have savings or investments that are working for you. Maybe people who have status vehicles have a comfortable amount of savings and investments as well. Basically everyon e needs to decide where their level of comfort is as far as spending, saving and investing.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Spring</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Spring</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 14:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I love driving around my 8 year old truck.  Remember Sam Walton drove his beat up pickup all over the place and did not feel inferior about it.  You are not what you drive or what you wear.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love driving around my 8 year old truck.  Remember Sam Walton drove his beat up pickup all over the place and did not feel inferior about it.  You are not what you drive or what you wear.</p>
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		<title>By: Celli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Celli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 19:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, i just read &quot;over social obligation to keep up with the Joneses&quot; I can totally relate.  My siblings are very critical of the choices I have made in my life.  The often consider me the &quot;poor&quot; one of the family and it really upsets me and my husband. I will certainly put some of your advise to practice.  I also hate how they verbalize it and it&#039;s to the point where my son thinks we are poor! But really we&#039;re almost debt free (working on one credit card) we have a healthy savings and both have a healthy size 401K, we&#039;ll have our house paid in less than 10 years but still.... all my family feels sorry for us becaseu we dont&#039; drive a Mercedes Benz ( like many of my siblings and thier husbands and dont&#039; have the 2 story 3,000 square foot home.  

At work, what I also found makes people really look at you differnlty is perfume.  I&#039;m pretty frugal, but when it comes to perfume, I splurge and spend on a good bottle of perfume.  I&#039;ve had several people comment on how I smell, and when they ask I tell them and it raises eyebrows, especailly from those who know perfume prices!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, i just read &#8220;over social obligation to keep up with the Joneses&#8221; I can totally relate.  My siblings are very critical of the choices I have made in my life.  The often consider me the &#8220;poor&#8221; one of the family and it really upsets me and my husband. I will certainly put some of your advise to practice.  I also hate how they verbalize it and it&#8217;s to the point where my son thinks we are poor! But really we&#8217;re almost debt free (working on one credit card) we have a healthy savings and both have a healthy size 401K, we&#8217;ll have our house paid in less than 10 years but still&#8230;. all my family feels sorry for us becaseu we dont&#8217; drive a Mercedes Benz ( like many of my siblings and thier husbands and dont&#8217; have the 2 story 3,000 square foot home.  </p>
<p>At work, what I also found makes people really look at you differnlty is perfume.  I&#8217;m pretty frugal, but when it comes to perfume, I splurge and spend on a good bottle of perfume.  I&#8217;ve had several people comment on how I smell, and when they ask I tell them and it raises eyebrows, especailly from those who know perfume prices!</p>
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		<title>By: laura k</title>
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		<dc:creator>laura k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 14:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m also with Canadian about it being an attitude adjustment. If you are happy with the way you are, that will shine through in your personality and will automatically give off the &quot;air of success&quot; the reader is looking for.

Of course that does not mean that the reader will necessarily _feel_ successful all the time. Although I don&#039;t really like the phrase &quot;fake it till you make it,&quot; there is some truth in it. Acting successful will trick your brain into thinking you are, which ultimately will make you successful.

Finally, success depends on how you measure it. It sounds like the reader is still struggling to redefine it for him/herself. Kudos to the reader for taking that step!

laura]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m also with Canadian about it being an attitude adjustment. If you are happy with the way you are, that will shine through in your personality and will automatically give off the &#8220;air of success&#8221; the reader is looking for.</p>
<p>Of course that does not mean that the reader will necessarily _feel_ successful all the time. Although I don&#8217;t really like the phrase &#8220;fake it till you make it,&#8221; there is some truth in it. Acting successful will trick your brain into thinking you are, which ultimately will make you successful.</p>
<p>Finally, success depends on how you measure it. It sounds like the reader is still struggling to redefine it for him/herself. Kudos to the reader for taking that step!</p>
<p>laura</p>
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		<title>By: Dagny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dagny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 14:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I work in a technical field where one&#039;s workplace status is based on what one knows, not what one looks like. I believe this attitude can be realized in other kinds of work ... people generally know how well, or not, their peers are performing at their jobs.
Me: own home with no mortgage, ~ $350K investments, 10 year old car (bought for cash) in great shape, small wardrobe, not much jewlery, no big screen tv. But I do own 5 computers :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work in a technical field where one&#8217;s workplace status is based on what one knows, not what one looks like. I believe this attitude can be realized in other kinds of work &#8230; people generally know how well, or not, their peers are performing at their jobs.<br />
Me: own home with no mortgage, ~ $350K investments, 10 year old car (bought for cash) in great shape, small wardrobe, not much jewlery, no big screen tv. But I do own 5 computers :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Vincent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vincent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 05:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;ve had a vein of posts going about how to save money, and this particular post struck a chord with me, especially the car part. 

One thing definitely worth learning is car maintenance and repair. I can&#039;t tell you the hundreds (probably thousands!) of dollars I&#039;ve saved by learning to work on my own car. It helps that my father grew up doing things like that and could take apart a hot rod and rebuild it from the ground up, but almost every car available to the public has a manual based on an entire tear-down and rebuild known as the Haynes manual, available at almost any car part place (AutoZone, O&#039;Reily, etc.). There are also many specialty books out there that are even better than Haynes, but Haynes is usually a great starting point.

I say this because your reader isn&#039;t alone in his car concerns (obviously, from the comments thusfar), and I can sympathize. However, my only car is a 1987 Volvo 760 Turbo. Yes, it&#039;s from 1987, and yes, it&#039;s a box, but despite its aged and boxy appearance, people still recognize it as an expensive car--especially once they sit in it. Shiny black and chrome exterior with heated, powered black leather seats and climate control inside. 

I&#039;m not saying the old Volvo is for everybody--I love these cars, myself, quirks and all--but I&#039;m saying that I paid $1500 for the car. And I&#039;ve spent maybe $200 on parts in the last three or four years keeping it on the road, not including general maintenance like oil, brake pads, and tires. I&#039;ve put lots and lots of miles on it, and she&#039;s still going strong. Keep in mind that older cars (especially pre-1996 vehicles) tend to be simpler to repair with fewer electronic gadgets.

What&#039;s more, the old Volvos are somewhat chic now. Kind of out of nowhere they became &quot;cool&quot; to own. So people see my shiny black little turbocharged European machine and classify me as somebody with money, despite its age. I&#039;ve had several people assume I could afford something and when I don&#039;t give in, they say &quot;Come on, you drive a Volvo!&quot; like the year doesn&#039;t matter.

Sorry for the long comment, but I thought it worth mentioning. Buy an older car that&#039;s &quot;cool&quot; and at the same time luxurious and learn to work on it. You can get a basic, cheap set of tools for not a lot of money (though you&#039;ll want to replace/upgrade eventually, much like people do with cookware), you&#039;ll learn much more about your vehicle and take pride in it (I consider my car my friend...a neglected friend at the moment, but a friend nonetheless), and you&#039;ll save untold amounts of money by keeping it on the road yourself rather than paying a mechanic you can&#039;t really trust to do work that you can&#039;t be sure he&#039;s done right. The work is honest and enjoyable and worth the time it takes to do.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve had a vein of posts going about how to save money, and this particular post struck a chord with me, especially the car part. </p>
<p>One thing definitely worth learning is car maintenance and repair. I can&#8217;t tell you the hundreds (probably thousands!) of dollars I&#8217;ve saved by learning to work on my own car. It helps that my father grew up doing things like that and could take apart a hot rod and rebuild it from the ground up, but almost every car available to the public has a manual based on an entire tear-down and rebuild known as the Haynes manual, available at almost any car part place (AutoZone, O&#8217;Reily, etc.). There are also many specialty books out there that are even better than Haynes, but Haynes is usually a great starting point.</p>
<p>I say this because your reader isn&#8217;t alone in his car concerns (obviously, from the comments thusfar), and I can sympathize. However, my only car is a 1987 Volvo 760 Turbo. Yes, it&#8217;s from 1987, and yes, it&#8217;s a box, but despite its aged and boxy appearance, people still recognize it as an expensive car&#8211;especially once they sit in it. Shiny black and chrome exterior with heated, powered black leather seats and climate control inside. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying the old Volvo is for everybody&#8211;I love these cars, myself, quirks and all&#8211;but I&#8217;m saying that I paid $1500 for the car. And I&#8217;ve spent maybe $200 on parts in the last three or four years keeping it on the road, not including general maintenance like oil, brake pads, and tires. I&#8217;ve put lots and lots of miles on it, and she&#8217;s still going strong. Keep in mind that older cars (especially pre-1996 vehicles) tend to be simpler to repair with fewer electronic gadgets.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s more, the old Volvos are somewhat chic now. Kind of out of nowhere they became &#8220;cool&#8221; to own. So people see my shiny black little turbocharged European machine and classify me as somebody with money, despite its age. I&#8217;ve had several people assume I could afford something and when I don&#8217;t give in, they say &#8220;Come on, you drive a Volvo!&#8221; like the year doesn&#8217;t matter.</p>
<p>Sorry for the long comment, but I thought it worth mentioning. Buy an older car that&#8217;s &#8220;cool&#8221; and at the same time luxurious and learn to work on it. You can get a basic, cheap set of tools for not a lot of money (though you&#8217;ll want to replace/upgrade eventually, much like people do with cookware), you&#8217;ll learn much more about your vehicle and take pride in it (I consider my car my friend&#8230;a neglected friend at the moment, but a friend nonetheless), and you&#8217;ll save untold amounts of money by keeping it on the road yourself rather than paying a mechanic you can&#8217;t really trust to do work that you can&#8217;t be sure he&#8217;s done right. The work is honest and enjoyable and worth the time it takes to do.</p>
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		<title>By: Mohammed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mohammed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 05:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Reading your posts from the UAE.  Good stuff.

Another point here is to remember that those people are talking about things owned by their bank/credit card company.  Realise that they are STILL PAYING (with interest!) for the stuff they talk about as their own.  So, they are not actually talking about their possessions, they are talking about their debts!

When someone mentions their car (and you are comfortable with that person) ask them when they will clear the loan on it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading your posts from the UAE.  Good stuff.</p>
<p>Another point here is to remember that those people are talking about things owned by their bank/credit card company.  Realise that they are STILL PAYING (with interest!) for the stuff they talk about as their own.  So, they are not actually talking about their possessions, they are talking about their debts!</p>
<p>When someone mentions their car (and you are comfortable with that person) ask them when they will clear the loan on it.</p>
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		<title>By: Anne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 02:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Canadian, I am with you on this one. I&#039;m often telling people about a great deal I&#039;ve found, a way I&#039;ve discovered of making something at home, how I got this skirt you find cute for $4 at Ross, etc. I&#039;m proud of the way I live and feel like rather than having someone impose their &quot;things&quot; on me, I can show off a different way to live.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Canadian, I am with you on this one. I&#8217;m often telling people about a great deal I&#8217;ve found, a way I&#8217;ve discovered of making something at home, how I got this skirt you find cute for $4 at Ross, etc. I&#8217;m proud of the way I live and feel like rather than having someone impose their &#8220;things&#8221; on me, I can show off a different way to live.</p>
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		<title>By: Kay</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/04/10/overcoming-the-social-obligation-to-keep-up-with-the-joneses/#comment-17252</link>
		<dc:creator>Kay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 23:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A small home can be far more charming than a large, glamorous one if neatly kept, decorated with personal style, and welcoming to friends.  Classic clothing is an investment, whether you bought it at a thrift store or on sale (I highly recommend picking up books from the Chic Simple series -- from a library or used book store, if you like -- to learn how to judge garment quality, care for your clothing, and make rich-looking outfits).

There&#039;s nothing wrong with wanting to appear as successful as your superficial colleagues, but remember, their success is only skin deep.  Your attitude of success can justifiably come from within -- you&#039;ve done some excellent work! -- and your smile and the set of your shoulders can reflect the fact that you don&#039;t have bill collectors hounding you, you&#039;re not one paycheck away from disaster, and you&#039;re living in a way that matches your values.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A small home can be far more charming than a large, glamorous one if neatly kept, decorated with personal style, and welcoming to friends.  Classic clothing is an investment, whether you bought it at a thrift store or on sale (I highly recommend picking up books from the Chic Simple series &#8212; from a library or used book store, if you like &#8212; to learn how to judge garment quality, care for your clothing, and make rich-looking outfits).</p>
<p>There&#8217;s nothing wrong with wanting to appear as successful as your superficial colleagues, but remember, their success is only skin deep.  Your attitude of success can justifiably come from within &#8212; you&#8217;ve done some excellent work! &#8212; and your smile and the set of your shoulders can reflect the fact that you don&#8217;t have bill collectors hounding you, you&#8217;re not one paycheck away from disaster, and you&#8217;re living in a way that matches your values.</p>
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		<title>By: M</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/04/10/overcoming-the-social-obligation-to-keep-up-with-the-joneses/#comment-17225</link>
		<dc:creator>M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 22:12:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am generally very frugal, but when I do spend money, I spend my money on quality. 

It&#039;s almost bad, because people think I spend a lot of money, but I don&#039;t really, I just make sure that when I do spend my money, I spend it on something I really need and that will last for a long time, and I make sure I make the most of the money I&#039;m spending. 

For example, I recently had to buy a lot of backpacking/camping equipment for a geology field camp this summer.  Instead of going to Academy and spending $100 on crap that will need to be thrown away at the end of the summer, I went to REI and spent more (on clearance items) that will last for years and years and is very high quality as well.

I don&#039;t spend more than $200 on clothes a year.  Of course I could spend much less than that, so I don&#039;t know if that&#039;s frugal compared to other men, but I try to buy high-quality clothes that look good and will last a long time.  

My mother and brothers (still minors living with her) spend all her money, but they spend it on a lot of crap they aren&#039;t going to use for very long.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am generally very frugal, but when I do spend money, I spend my money on quality. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s almost bad, because people think I spend a lot of money, but I don&#8217;t really, I just make sure that when I do spend my money, I spend it on something I really need and that will last for a long time, and I make sure I make the most of the money I&#8217;m spending. </p>
<p>For example, I recently had to buy a lot of backpacking/camping equipment for a geology field camp this summer.  Instead of going to Academy and spending $100 on crap that will need to be thrown away at the end of the summer, I went to REI and spent more (on clearance items) that will last for years and years and is very high quality as well.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t spend more than $200 on clothes a year.  Of course I could spend much less than that, so I don&#8217;t know if that&#8217;s frugal compared to other men, but I try to buy high-quality clothes that look good and will last a long time.  </p>
<p>My mother and brothers (still minors living with her) spend all her money, but they spend it on a lot of crap they aren&#8217;t going to use for very long.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathania Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathania Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 22:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You really don&#039;t have to spend alot on clothes to look good. Today I loved my outfit that I wore, but each piece was bought on sale. I wore black courderoy capris ($10), a patterned shirt that I&#039;ve had for a couple of years that hasn&#039;t gone out of style ($10) and an elegant jacket piece ($12). The dress shoes I wore cost me about $10 as well.

I can and have worn all pieces with many other pieces of clothing in my wardrobe. My cost-per-wear for each of them is well under $1 with the exception of the jacket which is relatively new.

A good tip: When you shop, ask yourself if the thing you want to buy matches at least 2 items in your wardobe. For example, if you&#039;re buying a shirt, does it match at least two pairs of pants or skirts?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You really don&#8217;t have to spend alot on clothes to look good. Today I loved my outfit that I wore, but each piece was bought on sale. I wore black courderoy capris ($10), a patterned shirt that I&#8217;ve had for a couple of years that hasn&#8217;t gone out of style ($10) and an elegant jacket piece ($12). The dress shoes I wore cost me about $10 as well.</p>
<p>I can and have worn all pieces with many other pieces of clothing in my wardrobe. My cost-per-wear for each of them is well under $1 with the exception of the jacket which is relatively new.</p>
<p>A good tip: When you shop, ask yourself if the thing you want to buy matches at least 2 items in your wardobe. For example, if you&#8217;re buying a shirt, does it match at least two pairs of pants or skirts?</p>
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