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	<title>Comments on: Ten Reasons Iowa&#8217;s 529 Plan Is Great &#8211; And How You Can Use It To Get Ahead On Saving For College</title>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/04/18/ten-reasons-iowas-529-plan-is-great-and-how-you-can-use-it-to-get-ahead-on-saving-for-college/comment-page-1/#comment-19443</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 01:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Careful...

A lot of 529 plans have hidden (and needlessly high) administrative fees built into them.  And even though a lot of plans have &quot;thousands&quot; schools in them, there&#039;s always the chance your kid won&#039;t want to go to ANY of those schools for various reasons.  

I have a new baby and I&#039;m steering clear of 529 plans until they consolidate or clean up their act.    At this point I&#039;m better off just putting money away into a high yield savings or mutual fund or some other investment without locking it into the 529 trap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Careful&#8230;</p>
<p>A lot of 529 plans have hidden (and needlessly high) administrative fees built into them.  And even though a lot of plans have &#8220;thousands&#8221; schools in them, there&#8217;s always the chance your kid won&#8217;t want to go to ANY of those schools for various reasons.  </p>
<p>I have a new baby and I&#8217;m steering clear of 529 plans until they consolidate or clean up their act.    At this point I&#8217;m better off just putting money away into a high yield savings or mutual fund or some other investment without locking it into the 529 trap.</p>
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		<title>By: MossySF</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/04/18/ten-reasons-iowas-529-plan-is-great-and-how-you-can-use-it-to-get-ahead-on-saving-for-college/comment-page-1/#comment-19442</link>
		<dc:creator>MossySF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 00:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do agree it&#039;s the student loans that have driven the prices up, not higher prices requiring student loans. But what can you do -- it&#039;s part of the game now -- hedge your bets the best you can and try to direct your kids to lowcost alternatives. AP test credits, community college credits, cheap/local public schools.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do agree it&#8217;s the student loans that have driven the prices up, not higher prices requiring student loans. But what can you do &#8212; it&#8217;s part of the game now &#8212; hedge your bets the best you can and try to direct your kids to lowcost alternatives. AP test credits, community college credits, cheap/local public schools.</p>
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		<title>By: David Andersen</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/04/18/ten-reasons-iowas-529-plan-is-great-and-how-you-can-use-it-to-get-ahead-on-saving-for-college/comment-page-1/#comment-19225</link>
		<dc:creator>David Andersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 03:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m convinced - higher education is the growth industry for the ages.  

Every time we turn around there&#039;s another program that makes it easier for universities to raise their prices 3 times the rate of inflation.  At least this one directly and immediately involves one&#039;s own money so there is some slight potential for consumer pressure on price (very slight, however, since the money you save can only be used for education w/o penalty. Thus you&#039;ll have less incentive to spend whatever you save wisely since you&#039;ve got no alternative options).

Does anyone shudder at the notion of needing $200,000 for a college education?  Is it really worth that much?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m convinced &#8211; higher education is the growth industry for the ages.  </p>
<p>Every time we turn around there&#8217;s another program that makes it easier for universities to raise their prices 3 times the rate of inflation.  At least this one directly and immediately involves one&#8217;s own money so there is some slight potential for consumer pressure on price (very slight, however, since the money you save can only be used for education w/o penalty. Thus you&#8217;ll have less incentive to spend whatever you save wisely since you&#8217;ve got no alternative options).</p>
<p>Does anyone shudder at the notion of needing $200,000 for a college education?  Is it really worth that much?</p>
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		<title>By: MossySF</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/04/18/ten-reasons-iowas-529-plan-is-great-and-how-you-can-use-it-to-get-ahead-on-saving-for-college/comment-page-1/#comment-19164</link>
		<dc:creator>MossySF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 21:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For non-IA residents, there are even cheaper options available. OH&#039;s 529 plan fee is 0.16%, UT&#039;s is 0.25. Both of these plans allow more customizable portfolios -- the lack of options in the IA plan would be a no-go for me. At +0.62%, I&#039;d rather go Nebraska&#039;s plan and be able to choose all the individual Vanguard funds directly.

One other option, WV&#039;s 529 plan is the one of the few ways you get access to DFA funds without a big lumpsum of money under control of an asset manager.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For non-IA residents, there are even cheaper options available. OH&#8217;s 529 plan fee is 0.16%, UT&#8217;s is 0.25. Both of these plans allow more customizable portfolios &#8212; the lack of options in the IA plan would be a no-go for me. At +0.62%, I&#8217;d rather go Nebraska&#8217;s plan and be able to choose all the individual Vanguard funds directly.</p>
<p>One other option, WV&#8217;s 529 plan is the one of the few ways you get access to DFA funds without a big lumpsum of money under control of an asset manager.</p>
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		<title>By: !wanda</title>
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		<dc:creator>!wanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 20:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoever asked about graduate school: The money in a 529 can be used for graduate or professional school, at least in the case of Connecticut&#039;s 529.  I got a scholarship of 2/3 the price of going to my dream school in undergrad, so I had quite a bit of money left over.  Now, I&#039;m in grad school, and even though I have a full fellowship+stipend that adequately meets my needs, I get a check to cover &quot;living expenses&quot; from the 529. (It pretty much goes straight into my investment account...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoever asked about graduate school: The money in a 529 can be used for graduate or professional school, at least in the case of Connecticut&#8217;s 529.  I got a scholarship of 2/3 the price of going to my dream school in undergrad, so I had quite a bit of money left over.  Now, I&#8217;m in grad school, and even though I have a full fellowship+stipend that adequately meets my needs, I get a check to cover &#8220;living expenses&#8221; from the 529. (It pretty much goes straight into my investment account&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: KMC</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/04/18/ten-reasons-iowas-529-plan-is-great-and-how-you-can-use-it-to-get-ahead-on-saving-for-college/comment-page-1/#comment-19121</link>
		<dc:creator>KMC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 19:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It sounds like Iowa&#039;s plan is even better than my state&#039;s (MD).  Having Vanguard as the manager is a big plus and your tax benefits are slightly better than ours.

Louise, I wrote a post about that should answer the question you asked, but basically there are two types of 529s: savings plan and prepaid.  The savings plan is treated as a parental asset (that&#039;s good for financial aid purposes) and a prepaid plan is treated as a &#039;resource&#039; (that&#039;s bad - it reduces financial aid dollar-for-dollar).

k, you can totally save in your name for grad school and if you decide not to go, you can later change the beneficiary to your child-to-be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It sounds like Iowa&#8217;s plan is even better than my state&#8217;s (MD).  Having Vanguard as the manager is a big plus and your tax benefits are slightly better than ours.</p>
<p>Louise, I wrote a post about that should answer the question you asked, but basically there are two types of 529s: savings plan and prepaid.  The savings plan is treated as a parental asset (that&#8217;s good for financial aid purposes) and a prepaid plan is treated as a &#8216;resource&#8217; (that&#8217;s bad &#8211; it reduces financial aid dollar-for-dollar).</p>
<p>k, you can totally save in your name for grad school and if you decide not to go, you can later change the beneficiary to your child-to-be.</p>
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		<title>By: Mukesh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mukesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 18:43:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just read the details of my states 529 plan:

1) The account is NOT covered by the FDIC at all. The account may lose money including the principal invested and no government agency nor the fund manager is liable.

2) The amount that is withdrawn does have an affect on the Financial Aid for the student especially in the 2nd year because at that time the students tax return will have the 1st years withdrawal.

Are all 529 plans not have any protection?  These are only 2 negatives compared to the many positives but just thought I&#039;d mention what I read.

-Mukesh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just read the details of my states 529 plan:</p>
<p>1) The account is NOT covered by the FDIC at all. The account may lose money including the principal invested and no government agency nor the fund manager is liable.</p>
<p>2) The amount that is withdrawn does have an affect on the Financial Aid for the student especially in the 2nd year because at that time the students tax return will have the 1st years withdrawal.</p>
<p>Are all 529 plans not have any protection?  These are only 2 negatives compared to the many positives but just thought I&#8217;d mention what I read.</p>
<p>-Mukesh</p>
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		<title>By: Mike McMurray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike McMurray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 18:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With the recent birth of my son, I did a lot of research on this subject as well (college savings).  I actually wrote about it on my website as well, but Trent&#039;s writeup was much better than mine.

Now a big point that Trent left out was the impact of grants / scholarships on the 529 account.  During my research, I found that any grant/scholarship monies received can be match withdrawn from the 529 account without penalty.

I may have missed it in Trent&#039;s article, but much like a 401k, the 529 has a penalty associated with it, beyond the state/federal taxes upon withdrawal.  In the event of a withdrawal not for &quot;educational use&quot;, there is a 10% penalty incurred.  Meaning that withdrawing $1000 from the 529 will actually end up costing you $1280 (if you live in Texas), and even more in a State with State Income Taxes.

However, if we save up $200,000 in this account over 18 years, and my son gets a full ride to school, we can match the amount of those scholarships to take out of the 529 penalty free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With the recent birth of my son, I did a lot of research on this subject as well (college savings).  I actually wrote about it on my website as well, but Trent&#8217;s writeup was much better than mine.</p>
<p>Now a big point that Trent left out was the impact of grants / scholarships on the 529 account.  During my research, I found that any grant/scholarship monies received can be match withdrawn from the 529 account without penalty.</p>
<p>I may have missed it in Trent&#8217;s article, but much like a 401k, the 529 has a penalty associated with it, beyond the state/federal taxes upon withdrawal.  In the event of a withdrawal not for &#8220;educational use&#8221;, there is a 10% penalty incurred.  Meaning that withdrawing $1000 from the 529 will actually end up costing you $1280 (if you live in Texas), and even more in a State with State Income Taxes.</p>
<p>However, if we save up $200,000 in this account over 18 years, and my son gets a full ride to school, we can match the amount of those scholarships to take out of the 529 penalty free.</p>
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		<title>By: kev</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/04/18/ten-reasons-iowas-529-plan-is-great-and-how-you-can-use-it-to-get-ahead-on-saving-for-college/comment-page-1/#comment-19093</link>
		<dc:creator>kev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 17:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Follow-up question/comment:

What are the differences between a 529 and an ESA (education savings account)? A place like Vanguard offers both.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Follow-up question/comment:</p>
<p>What are the differences between a 529 and an ESA (education savings account)? A place like Vanguard offers both.</p>
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		<title>By: Louise</title>
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		<dc:creator>Louise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 17:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How does this affect the beneficiary&#039;s eligibility for federal grants and loans?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How does this affect the beneficiary&#8217;s eligibility for federal grants and loans?</p>
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		<title>By: kev</title>
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		<dc:creator>kev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 17:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a ways away from needing to plan for such things (still working on the &#039;find a wife&#039; thing), but this sounds wonderful. I love Vanguard and it&#039;s good to know I will be able to do my college savings through them.

How long have you been contributing to your 529s? Like with retirement, is it best to start as early as possible (as in as soon as you know you will one day have kids)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a ways away from needing to plan for such things (still working on the &#8216;find a wife&#8217; thing), but this sounds wonderful. I love Vanguard and it&#8217;s good to know I will be able to do my college savings through them.</p>
<p>How long have you been contributing to your 529s? Like with retirement, is it best to start as early as possible (as in as soon as you know you will one day have kids)?</p>
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		<title>By: mh1</title>
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		<dc:creator>mh1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 17:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would you recommend one put $ into a 529 for graduate school rather than another type of fund?  Is this even allowed?  Are there any advantages?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would you recommend one put $ into a 529 for graduate school rather than another type of fund?  Is this even allowed?  Are there any advantages?</p>
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		<title>By: CK</title>
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		<dc:creator>CK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 17:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another plus for Iowa - it is part of the Upromise network. 

Rebates earned by all of us using Upromise can be automatically invested in Iowa&#039;s 529 plan on a quarterly basis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another plus for Iowa &#8211; it is part of the Upromise network. </p>
<p>Rebates earned by all of us using Upromise can be automatically invested in Iowa&#8217;s 529 plan on a quarterly basis.</p>
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		<title>By: k</title>
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		<dc:creator>k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 17:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the fund you&#039;ve started for the kid-in-utero: who is currently the named beneficiary? I assume it&#039;s you or your wife, but just checking. Having a kid is still a couple of years out for us, but the idea of starting a 529 now and changing th beneficiary later (or just going back to get a masters degree if we end up not having kids) is intriguing to me, and not something I had considered before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the fund you&#8217;ve started for the kid-in-utero: who is currently the named beneficiary? I assume it&#8217;s you or your wife, but just checking. Having a kid is still a couple of years out for us, but the idea of starting a 529 now and changing th beneficiary later (or just going back to get a masters degree if we end up not having kids) is intriguing to me, and not something I had considered before.</p>
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