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	<title>Comments on: Ethanol Blends: Are They Worth It In Your Tank?</title>
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		<title>By: Andreas</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/05/22/ethanol-blends-are-they-worth-it-in-your-tank/comment-page-1/#comment-912261</link>
		<dc:creator>Andreas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 May 2010 15:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for a clear exposition of facts - issues such as these are fraught with self-interest and ignorance!

A very short debunking book on economics - Economics in one lesson by Henry Hazlitt - may also be of interest to your readers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for a clear exposition of facts &#8211; issues such as these are fraught with self-interest and ignorance!</p>
<p>A very short debunking book on economics &#8211; Economics in one lesson by Henry Hazlitt &#8211; may also be of interest to your readers.</p>
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		<title>By: Ouida Vincent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ouida Vincent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 13:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trent, do the calculation with your Prius.  The result may surprise you!. Where I live in New Mexico we have E10, no choice and my Prius has gone from 44 to 42 MPG in winter driving.  I will see what it does over the summer.  Inherently, ethanol is not as efficient a fuel as gasoline and our current ethanol substrates and production methods are not efficient as well.  If those things do not change, I suspect people will see an increase in fuel costs as we move to blends higher in ethanol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trent, do the calculation with your Prius.  The result may surprise you!. Where I live in New Mexico we have E10, no choice and my Prius has gone from 44 to 42 MPG in winter driving.  I will see what it does over the summer.  Inherently, ethanol is not as efficient a fuel as gasoline and our current ethanol substrates and production methods are not efficient as well.  If those things do not change, I suspect people will see an increase in fuel costs as we move to blends higher in ethanol.</p>
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		<title>By: Oscar</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/05/22/ethanol-blends-are-they-worth-it-in-your-tank/comment-page-1/#comment-30015</link>
		<dc:creator>Oscar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 07:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope people actually realize one important point in using 10% ethanol: Less money going to the oil rich countries that practically controls our countrys economic future. 10% in a single state may seem so small, but at least we are sending a message. Too bad the leadership of our country does not have the strength to have &quot;Manhattan Project&quot; type of a change, so we may be free from Ahmadinejad, Chavez, Gaddafi and the likes. 

I can always see why a person would defend or go against other arguments for ethanol. But I cannot see anything negative from setting us free from the clutches of our oil addiction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope people actually realize one important point in using 10% ethanol: Less money going to the oil rich countries that practically controls our countrys economic future. 10% in a single state may seem so small, but at least we are sending a message. Too bad the leadership of our country does not have the strength to have &#8220;Manhattan Project&#8221; type of a change, so we may be free from Ahmadinejad, Chavez, Gaddafi and the likes. </p>
<p>I can always see why a person would defend or go against other arguments for ethanol. But I cannot see anything negative from setting us free from the clutches of our oil addiction.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/05/22/ethanol-blends-are-they-worth-it-in-your-tank/comment-page-1/#comment-29453</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2007 19:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, 
John Stossel, whistle-blower of 20/20 fame, had an interesting column on this topic recently, called the Many Myths of Ethanol:
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/column.aspx?
UrlTitle=the_many_myths_of_ethanol&amp;ns=JohnStossel
&amp;dt=05/23/2007&amp;page=full&amp;comments=true

Some highlights: 
&quot;Studies show that the amount of energy ethanol produces and the amount needed to make it are roughly the same.&quot;
&quot;Because ethanol degrades, it can&#039;t be moved in pipelines the way that gasoline is. So many more big, polluting trucks will be needed to haul it.&quot;
&quot;For corn ethanol to completely displace gasoline consumption in this country, we would need to appropriate all cropland in the United States, turn it completely over to corn-ethanol production, and then find 20 percent more land on top of that for cultivation.&quot;
&quot;Studies indicate that the standard mixture of 90 percent ethanol and 10 percent gasoline pollutes worse than gasoline.&quot;
&quot;Virtually all studies show that the greenhouse gases associated with ethanol are about the same as those associated with conventional gasoline once we examine the entire life cycle of the two fuels.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br />
John Stossel, whistle-blower of 20/20 fame, had an interesting column on this topic recently, called the Many Myths of Ethanol:<br />
<a href="http://www.townhall.com/columnists/column.aspx?" rel="nofollow">http://www.townhall.com/columnists/column.aspx?</a><br />
UrlTitle=the_many_myths_of_ethanol&amp;ns=JohnStossel<br />
&amp;dt=05/23/2007&amp;page=full&amp;comments=true</p>
<p>Some highlights:<br />
&#8220;Studies show that the amount of energy ethanol produces and the amount needed to make it are roughly the same.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Because ethanol degrades, it can&#8217;t be moved in pipelines the way that gasoline is. So many more big, polluting trucks will be needed to haul it.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;For corn ethanol to completely displace gasoline consumption in this country, we would need to appropriate all cropland in the United States, turn it completely over to corn-ethanol production, and then find 20 percent more land on top of that for cultivation.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Studies indicate that the standard mixture of 90 percent ethanol and 10 percent gasoline pollutes worse than gasoline.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Virtually all studies show that the greenhouse gases associated with ethanol are about the same as those associated with conventional gasoline once we examine the entire life cycle of the two fuels.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: moiety</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/05/22/ethanol-blends-are-they-worth-it-in-your-tank/comment-page-1/#comment-28289</link>
		<dc:creator>moiety</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 22:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I occasionally put E85 (fairly easily available in Austin) in my flex-fuel-ready truck, and the impact on mileage is -considerably- greater, even in an engine supposedly designed to work with the stuff.

I probably get a MPG drop of 20%. It sure doesn&#039;t cost 20% less.

Admittedly, acceleration seems just a teence faster, but not enough to be worth the mileage loss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I occasionally put E85 (fairly easily available in Austin) in my flex-fuel-ready truck, and the impact on mileage is -considerably- greater, even in an engine supposedly designed to work with the stuff.</p>
<p>I probably get a MPG drop of 20%. It sure doesn&#8217;t cost 20% less.</p>
<p>Admittedly, acceleration seems just a teence faster, but not enough to be worth the mileage loss.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/05/22/ethanol-blends-are-they-worth-it-in-your-tank/comment-page-1/#comment-28249</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 19:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like HardwareGuy said, it is not engine technology that makes the difference in fuel efficiency between ethanol and more traditional gasoline. It is still combustion that is required and the chemical bonds in ethanol will result in less energy (joules, BTUs, mpg, or however you choose to measure it) per gallon. 

Making fuel from food just doesn&#039;t seem smart. 

Ethanol is, convienently, easily biodegradable when it spills. However, when mixed with gasoline it makes a spill more of a problem as it makes the nasty components of gasoline (eg: BTEX components) more soluble so groundwater plumes will be larger. This may not seem like a big deal, but ethanol can corrode underground storage tanks faster unless they are a special type (not at all common) made especially for the increased ethanol content.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like HardwareGuy said, it is not engine technology that makes the difference in fuel efficiency between ethanol and more traditional gasoline. It is still combustion that is required and the chemical bonds in ethanol will result in less energy (joules, BTUs, mpg, or however you choose to measure it) per gallon. </p>
<p>Making fuel from food just doesn&#8217;t seem smart. </p>
<p>Ethanol is, convienently, easily biodegradable when it spills. However, when mixed with gasoline it makes a spill more of a problem as it makes the nasty components of gasoline (eg: BTEX components) more soluble so groundwater plumes will be larger. This may not seem like a big deal, but ethanol can corrode underground storage tanks faster unless they are a special type (not at all common) made especially for the increased ethanol content.</p>
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		<title>By: Bil</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/05/22/ethanol-blends-are-they-worth-it-in-your-tank/comment-page-1/#comment-28160</link>
		<dc:creator>Bil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 15:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Corn-based ethanol is acceptable as an oxygenator, but is unsustainable for fuel use.

I am extremely skeptical of claims about cellulosic ethanol. 

I&#039;ve seen many press releases, but little data on how much ethanol has been produced. 

It does appear that it is still confined to the lab bench (you can get amazing results in the lab which do NOT translate to commercial scale production)

The only verified program I know of was the TVA&#039;s pilot scale plant that used wood chips. But they had to use sulfuric acid to break down the wood chips, and that proved too expensive.

Rob&#039;s right that diesel is the way to go at this point in time if you must drive and want to minimize the environmental impact. 

Efficient turbo-diesel cars like the Jetta and Passat get better mileage than any gasoline burning hybrid, in the city or on the highway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Corn-based ethanol is acceptable as an oxygenator, but is unsustainable for fuel use.</p>
<p>I am extremely skeptical of claims about cellulosic ethanol. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen many press releases, but little data on how much ethanol has been produced. </p>
<p>It does appear that it is still confined to the lab bench (you can get amazing results in the lab which do NOT translate to commercial scale production)</p>
<p>The only verified program I know of was the TVA&#8217;s pilot scale plant that used wood chips. But they had to use sulfuric acid to break down the wood chips, and that proved too expensive.</p>
<p>Rob&#8217;s right that diesel is the way to go at this point in time if you must drive and want to minimize the environmental impact. </p>
<p>Efficient turbo-diesel cars like the Jetta and Passat get better mileage than any gasoline burning hybrid, in the city or on the highway.</p>
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		<title>By: cami</title>
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		<dc:creator>cami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 14:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve actually been wondering about this myself lately.  I don&#039;t think that the environmental impacts are negligible, but I also haven&#039;t come up with a good way of quantifying these.  We have a good idea of how bad gas is, but not as much concrete evidence as to how detrimental ethanol can be.  There are estimates that it takes 4 gallons of water to produce 1 gallon of ethanol.  While some steps can use grey water, some cannot.  Plus continuous crop rotations can have be bad for soil and reduce production over the longer term. Then they are the political realities and huge price volatility of both gasoline and ethanol productions.

I don&#039;t know how far away cellulosic based ethanol is.  I&#039;m currently at a university that is (probably) one of the top three for biodiesel research, and I hear a lot about it, but it still seems like a ways off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve actually been wondering about this myself lately.  I don&#8217;t think that the environmental impacts are negligible, but I also haven&#8217;t come up with a good way of quantifying these.  We have a good idea of how bad gas is, but not as much concrete evidence as to how detrimental ethanol can be.  There are estimates that it takes 4 gallons of water to produce 1 gallon of ethanol.  While some steps can use grey water, some cannot.  Plus continuous crop rotations can have be bad for soil and reduce production over the longer term. Then they are the political realities and huge price volatility of both gasoline and ethanol productions.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know how far away cellulosic based ethanol is.  I&#8217;m currently at a university that is (probably) one of the top three for biodiesel research, and I hear a lot about it, but it still seems like a ways off.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob in Madrid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob in Madrid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 14:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Americans were really serious about reducing gasoline consumption they&#039;d switch over to deseil. Over 50% of cars in Europe have desiels under the hood. Benifets more power and about 30% more mpg. I&#039;ve been driving a desiel for about 2 years and I&#039;d never go back to a gas engine. Usually desiel is cheaper. 

Secondly American cars are way over powered why in gods name do you need 250hp to take the kids to school. I lived in Germany for 7 years and 80% of the cars are under 100hp yet when summer comes you see the autobahn jammed with the small cars (think Honda Accords) pulling 20 foot trailers and most of those cars are in the 120 hp range. Even large German SUVs come in lower HP than the equilavant American SUV. 

Secondly lower HP doesn&#039;t mean sticking to the right lane. I had ran an Audi A4 for 3 years and even at a whimpy (by American standards) 130 HP  I had no problem crusing at 110 (180 kph) all day. 

Incedently 70% of the German autobahns have speed limits  (not that I paid much attention trick is to know where the cameras sit) and heavy traffic means you can&#039;t run flat out much anymore. 

My wife was in Germany recently with here boss and he hit 160 MPH on the autobahn before she finally told him to slow down! He went down to a more sedate 90 mph (180kph)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Americans were really serious about reducing gasoline consumption they&#8217;d switch over to deseil. Over 50% of cars in Europe have desiels under the hood. Benifets more power and about 30% more mpg. I&#8217;ve been driving a desiel for about 2 years and I&#8217;d never go back to a gas engine. Usually desiel is cheaper. </p>
<p>Secondly American cars are way over powered why in gods name do you need 250hp to take the kids to school. I lived in Germany for 7 years and 80% of the cars are under 100hp yet when summer comes you see the autobahn jammed with the small cars (think Honda Accords) pulling 20 foot trailers and most of those cars are in the 120 hp range. Even large German SUVs come in lower HP than the equilavant American SUV. </p>
<p>Secondly lower HP doesn&#8217;t mean sticking to the right lane. I had ran an Audi A4 for 3 years and even at a whimpy (by American standards) 130 HP  I had no problem crusing at 110 (180 kph) all day. </p>
<p>Incedently 70% of the German autobahns have speed limits  (not that I paid much attention trick is to know where the cameras sit) and heavy traffic means you can&#8217;t run flat out much anymore. </p>
<p>My wife was in Germany recently with here boss and he hit 160 MPH on the autobahn before she finally told him to slow down! He went down to a more sedate 90 mph (180kph)</p>
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		<title>By: kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/05/22/ethanol-blends-are-they-worth-it-in-your-tank/comment-page-1/#comment-28153</link>
		<dc:creator>kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 14:28:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that ethanol is probably not the answer.  Are government subsidies ever is the best answer?  I don&#039;t think so.

John Stossel just wrote a great piece on this today too.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2007/05/the_many_myths_of_ethanol.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that ethanol is probably not the answer.  Are government subsidies ever is the best answer?  I don&#8217;t think so.</p>
<p>John Stossel just wrote a great piece on this today too.<br />
<a href="http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2007/05/the_many_myths_of_ethanol.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2007/05/the_many_myths_of_ethanol.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dy (www.dyphan.com)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dy (www.dyphan.com)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 07:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have there been any studies on the effects of the two types of gasoline on engines and components?  I wonder if one would produce more wear and tear in the long run.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have there been any studies on the effects of the two types of gasoline on engines and components?  I wonder if one would produce more wear and tear in the long run.</p>
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		<title>By: Stanley</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/05/22/ethanol-blends-are-they-worth-it-in-your-tank/comment-page-1/#comment-28066</link>
		<dc:creator>Stanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 06:36:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,
I came across your blog in DebtCC Blog Hunt.I like this blog and became fan of it.I never thought of the E10 gasoline but now it seems I was a fool to not doing it.Another aspect of choosing it is the environment issue.So big thanks to you one more time for this info.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br />
I came across your blog in DebtCC Blog Hunt.I like this blog and became fan of it.I never thought of the E10 gasoline but now it seems I was a fool to not doing it.Another aspect of choosing it is the environment issue.So big thanks to you one more time for this info.</p>
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		<title>By: Leslie M-B</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/05/22/ethanol-blends-are-they-worth-it-in-your-tank/comment-page-1/#comment-28044</link>
		<dc:creator>Leslie M-B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 04:19:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d be more enthusiastic about ethanol if its production and transportation didn&#039;t require the use of so many fossil fuels.  I&#039;d also be happier if it didn&#039;t encourage monocultures laced with pesticides.  Ewwww!  

I went to college in Iowa, and I was shocked to learn, in the middle of the greenest summer landscape I&#039;d ever seen, that so little of the state is actually natural.  It&#039;s mostly soy, corn, alfalfa--monocultures.  Is that really the kind of landscape we want to promote elsewhere?

Yes, fossil fuels need to be replaced, but I&#039;m not convinced ethanol is the answer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d be more enthusiastic about ethanol if its production and transportation didn&#8217;t require the use of so many fossil fuels.  I&#8217;d also be happier if it didn&#8217;t encourage monocultures laced with pesticides.  Ewwww!  </p>
<p>I went to college in Iowa, and I was shocked to learn, in the middle of the greenest summer landscape I&#8217;d ever seen, that so little of the state is actually natural.  It&#8217;s mostly soy, corn, alfalfa&#8211;monocultures.  Is that really the kind of landscape we want to promote elsewhere?</p>
<p>Yes, fossil fuels need to be replaced, but I&#8217;m not convinced ethanol is the answer.</p>
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		<title>By: EdTheRed</title>
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		<dc:creator>EdTheRed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 03:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;scuse please. I&#039;m driving an  &#039;03 Corolla. On the highway the thing cannot seem to get under 40 MPG, or much over :-(

So, based on the above, my next personal transportation will be powered by a system that can a) sip very sparingly from the petro/bio/whatever fuel tank b) run on electricity as well as internal combustion and c) generate it&#039;s own electricity from  braking/solar/whatever. And most probably built by Toyota.

BTW, it&#039;s gotta be able to move four adults, four carry-ons and two large suitcases. My Corolla does this.

In terms of future purchase, the Toyota&#039;s Synergy drive meets most of the above. I&#039;m sticking with Toyota because of the quality: The above mentioned Corolla has 44,000 miles and has had oil and filter changes and one set of tire. Nothing else. The thing runs like the day I drove it of the lot.

I will buy a Toyota Synergy Drive sometime in the next three to five years because I am impressed with the quality of my current Corolla (so I believe that Toyota extends that quality to the Synergy Drive), and because it&#039;s soooo much easier to go hybrid than to do flips and twists for sci-fi Hydrogen Fuel Cells (woosh, look it&#039;s W flying around in a jetpack!), bio-dielsels (honey, are we driving around behind a fast food restaurant?), etc.

Just my .02 cents. I may be completely wrong, I often am.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;scuse please. I&#8217;m driving an  &#8217;03 Corolla. On the highway the thing cannot seem to get under 40 MPG, or much over :-(</p>
<p>So, based on the above, my next personal transportation will be powered by a system that can a) sip very sparingly from the petro/bio/whatever fuel tank b) run on electricity as well as internal combustion and c) generate it&#8217;s own electricity from  braking/solar/whatever. And most probably built by Toyota.</p>
<p>BTW, it&#8217;s gotta be able to move four adults, four carry-ons and two large suitcases. My Corolla does this.</p>
<p>In terms of future purchase, the Toyota&#8217;s Synergy drive meets most of the above. I&#8217;m sticking with Toyota because of the quality: The above mentioned Corolla has 44,000 miles and has had oil and filter changes and one set of tire. Nothing else. The thing runs like the day I drove it of the lot.</p>
<p>I will buy a Toyota Synergy Drive sometime in the next three to five years because I am impressed with the quality of my current Corolla (so I believe that Toyota extends that quality to the Synergy Drive), and because it&#8217;s soooo much easier to go hybrid than to do flips and twists for sci-fi Hydrogen Fuel Cells (woosh, look it&#8217;s W flying around in a jetpack!), bio-dielsels (honey, are we driving around behind a fast food restaurant?), etc.</p>
<p>Just my .02 cents. I may be completely wrong, I often am.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Joslin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy Joslin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 01:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the write-up,  Just today I was discussing this subject with a colleague.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the write-up,  Just today I was discussing this subject with a colleague.</p>
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		<title>By: Trent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 00:26:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obviously, there are significant political issues afoot with ethanol.  Trust me, I live in Iowa and I see it all the time.  The thing is, though, it&#039;s not really helping the consumers at all to this point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obviously, there are significant political issues afoot with ethanol.  Trust me, I live in Iowa and I see it all the time.  The thing is, though, it&#8217;s not really helping the consumers at all to this point.</p>
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		<title>By: UncleOxidant</title>
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		<dc:creator>UncleOxidant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 00:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The rush to corn-based ethanol is a disaster:  It&#039;s a money losing proposition except for government subsidies.  It&#039;s a net energy loser: takes more energy to create than it yeilds.  It&#039;s an environmental disaster: more chemical fertilizers, pesticides, and herbicides used, more land under cultivation, more water diverted from underground aquifers.  It&#039;s causing food prices to rise globally.  It would not be a viable business were it not for huge government subsidies.

There are much better ways of producing bio-fuels.  The most promising is to grow algaes on sewage waste.  With corn you only get one crop/year, but with algae you get a crop every month and fertilizer too.

Cellulosic ethanol is still a science experiement at this point: if we can get it working it would improve the yield of corn-based ethanol, though it would be better to use things like switch grass that don&#039;t need much in the way of cultivation, pesticides or herbicides.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The rush to corn-based ethanol is a disaster:  It&#8217;s a money losing proposition except for government subsidies.  It&#8217;s a net energy loser: takes more energy to create than it yeilds.  It&#8217;s an environmental disaster: more chemical fertilizers, pesticides, and herbicides used, more land under cultivation, more water diverted from underground aquifers.  It&#8217;s causing food prices to rise globally.  It would not be a viable business were it not for huge government subsidies.</p>
<p>There are much better ways of producing bio-fuels.  The most promising is to grow algaes on sewage waste.  With corn you only get one crop/year, but with algae you get a crop every month and fertilizer too.</p>
<p>Cellulosic ethanol is still a science experiement at this point: if we can get it working it would improve the yield of corn-based ethanol, though it would be better to use things like switch grass that don&#8217;t need much in the way of cultivation, pesticides or herbicides.</p>
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		<title>By: HardwareGuy</title>
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		<dc:creator>HardwareGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 23:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A gallon of ethanol has less stored energy than a gallon of gasoline, so even when engines come around that are optimized for 100% ethanol they will still get less MPG than a comparable gasoline engine.

BTU per gallon
Gasoline - 114,100
E100     -  76,100

http://www.nafa.org/Content/NavigationMenu/Resource_Center/Alternative_Fuels/Energy_Equivalents/Energy_Equivalents.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A gallon of ethanol has less stored energy than a gallon of gasoline, so even when engines come around that are optimized for 100% ethanol they will still get less MPG than a comparable gasoline engine.</p>
<p>BTU per gallon<br />
Gasoline &#8211; 114,100<br />
E100     &#8211;  76,100</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nafa.org/Content/NavigationMenu/Resource_Center/Alternative_Fuels/Energy_Equivalents/Energy_Equivalents.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.nafa.org/Content/NavigationMenu/Resource_Center/Alternative_Fuels/Energy_Equivalents/Energy_Equivalents.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: S. B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>S. B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 22:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is the efficiency issue really related to the engine very much?  I thought the basic problem was that there is simply less energy stored in a gallon of ethanol than a gallon of gasoline.  Thus, if an engine processed both fuels with an efficiency of 30%, for example, the car still wouldn&#039;t go as far on a gallon of ethanol as it would on a gallon of gas.

This is not my area of expertise, so someone please jump in and correct me if this is not accurate.  Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is the efficiency issue really related to the engine very much?  I thought the basic problem was that there is simply less energy stored in a gallon of ethanol than a gallon of gasoline.  Thus, if an engine processed both fuels with an efficiency of 30%, for example, the car still wouldn&#8217;t go as far on a gallon of ethanol as it would on a gallon of gas.</p>
<p>This is not my area of expertise, so someone please jump in and correct me if this is not accurate.  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 22:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to point out something about ethanol that&#039;s often obscured in media reports: not all ethanol comes from the same place. The ethanol that&#039;s being discussed here is starch ethanol, which in the US comes primarily from corn (wheat is more popular in Europe). Obviously corn ethanol directly competes with human and animal food streams, and there is no question that this is already causing problems. In Brazil, a major ethanol-using nation, it is fermented directly from sugar extracted from sugar cane.

Another viable source of ethanol is cellulose, a structural carbohydrate that makes up the stems and stalks of plants. You can&#039;t feed this material to humans or animals, and this &#039;agricultural residue&#039; is quite often simply burned or landfilled. The cellulose can be broken down into glucose, which can be fermented into ethanol, using enzymes produced by fungi or bacteria. This technology is more expensive than using starch to make ethanol, but it is already competitive at today&#039;s oil prices. The media is starting to do a better job in conveying that there are different ways to make ethanol, with varying degrees of environmental impact depending on source, but there is still a tendency to refer to a single, homogenous &#039;ethanol&#039;.

Full disclosure: I am a scientist currently involved in studying the enzymes that break down cellulose. I should also note that I don&#039;t necessarily believe that ethanol is the be-all, end-all fuel solution, but I do believe that it can serve as a valuable bridge technology while other fuels/technologies are developed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to point out something about ethanol that&#8217;s often obscured in media reports: not all ethanol comes from the same place. The ethanol that&#8217;s being discussed here is starch ethanol, which in the US comes primarily from corn (wheat is more popular in Europe). Obviously corn ethanol directly competes with human and animal food streams, and there is no question that this is already causing problems. In Brazil, a major ethanol-using nation, it is fermented directly from sugar extracted from sugar cane.</p>
<p>Another viable source of ethanol is cellulose, a structural carbohydrate that makes up the stems and stalks of plants. You can&#8217;t feed this material to humans or animals, and this &#8216;agricultural residue&#8217; is quite often simply burned or landfilled. The cellulose can be broken down into glucose, which can be fermented into ethanol, using enzymes produced by fungi or bacteria. This technology is more expensive than using starch to make ethanol, but it is already competitive at today&#8217;s oil prices. The media is starting to do a better job in conveying that there are different ways to make ethanol, with varying degrees of environmental impact depending on source, but there is still a tendency to refer to a single, homogenous &#8216;ethanol&#8217;.</p>
<p>Full disclosure: I am a scientist currently involved in studying the enzymes that break down cellulose. I should also note that I don&#8217;t necessarily believe that ethanol is the be-all, end-all fuel solution, but I do believe that it can serve as a valuable bridge technology while other fuels/technologies are developed.</p>
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