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	<title>Comments on: Children Fighting For Money At The End Of One&#8217;s Life: A Cautionary Tale</title>
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		<title>By: Anna Bolla</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anna Bolla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 23:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If people would make the practical choice in life to live below their means (at the times they have an income coming in), save some of their income at the end of each pay, and WAKE UP to the REALITY that no-one in life will help them out or bail them out of their own mess, then that individual wouldn&#039;t even have to be concerned about emergency money nor would have an ounce of greed in their bones, as they would know that the money they so wisely chose to save/invest is their for them when needed!!!!  I come from a vey selfish-greedy family, even my own mother said I was cut out of her will, that she may leave me a $1,000 in her will if she didn&#039;t need it for herself for an emergency!  Right there I made up my mind that I didn&#039;t want anything from her and that I AM ON MY OWN.  To date, I am doing BETTER fiancially ON MY OWN with absolutely NO HELP AT ALL FROM A SINGLE HUMAN BEING and am doing better that some of my siblings who actually received her inheritance!!!!!  Bottom Line, NEVER EVER EVER RELY ON A HUMAN BEING FOR ANYTHING!!!!!!!!!Anyone who does is making the BIGGEST MISTAKE OF THEIR LIFE!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If people would make the practical choice in life to live below their means (at the times they have an income coming in), save some of their income at the end of each pay, and WAKE UP to the REALITY that no-one in life will help them out or bail them out of their own mess, then that individual wouldn&#8217;t even have to be concerned about emergency money nor would have an ounce of greed in their bones, as they would know that the money they so wisely chose to save/invest is their for them when needed!!!!  I come from a vey selfish-greedy family, even my own mother said I was cut out of her will, that she may leave me a $1,000 in her will if she didn&#8217;t need it for herself for an emergency!  Right there I made up my mind that I didn&#8217;t want anything from her and that I AM ON MY OWN.  To date, I am doing BETTER fiancially ON MY OWN with absolutely NO HELP AT ALL FROM A SINGLE HUMAN BEING and am doing better that some of my siblings who actually received her inheritance!!!!!  Bottom Line, NEVER EVER EVER RELY ON A HUMAN BEING FOR ANYTHING!!!!!!!!!Anyone who does is making the BIGGEST MISTAKE OF THEIR LIFE!</p>
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		<title>By: Victoria from Texas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Victoria from Texas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 02:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am the younger of the only two children of my parents; I am the only daughter, and have only the one older brother.  Our parents made out a will years ago and it was originally a &quot;fifty-fifty&quot; distribution of their property and assets.  At that same time, when I was in my 20s&#039;, apparently our parents judged me to be the more responsible child, because I was more stable and more responsible with my own financial/real estate/employment affairs.  The older sibling was provided a college education, numerous vehicles, and basically wasted our parents&#039; sacrifices of sending him to college, as he worked in non-skilled employment for decades, even though he holds two college degrees.  I on the other hand (unwisely at age 18) got married and did not go to college and started a family, was subsequently divorced after several years and raised my children on my own, always keeping my bills paid, etc.  I was also appointed power of attorney for both parents (effective when the first parent died) and they also had advanced healthcare directives.  
Well, after the first parent died, the widowed parent lived another several years in declining health, and even though my sibling lived much closer to the remaining parents house, he never cut her grass or really much of anything.  My own family and I were the ones who brought the parent his or her medications, groceries, performed innumerable tasks including doctor visits as this widowed parent did not drive.  A few years into widowhood, the remaining parent changed his/her will to direct distribution of assets to 75/25; the lesser percentage going to the sibling who did little or nothing to care for the widowed parent.  Also, my family and I took our ailing widowed parent into our home and cared for him/her until his/her death.  Before he/she died, the widowed parent appointed a non-blood relative whom he/she trusted to be Trustee to an estate he/she had created before their death, so my sibling and I would not fight further.  This dying parent of ours realized that this was the only way to ensure our parent&#039;s legacy/estate was distributed according to the &quot;new&quot; will.  Of course, this did not sit well with older sibling, but like our dying parent stated &quot;if you did 50% of the things (my name here) and their family did for me, then (sibling name here) would be getting 50%.  The dying parent knew anything monetary would be most likely squandered.  

So now I am the Villian By Proxy because of our parent&#039;s decision to make these ammends to his/her will.  The best I can do is finish my job of distributing the deceased parents&#039; personal property, as the real estate and life insurance money was put in the Trust, and will be distributed per the &quot;75/25&quot; in the next few months.  

I would like some advice on how to handle this, as now I am between an inherited rock and a hard space.  

Thanks, Victoria in Texas</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am the younger of the only two children of my parents; I am the only daughter, and have only the one older brother.  Our parents made out a will years ago and it was originally a &#8220;fifty-fifty&#8221; distribution of their property and assets.  At that same time, when I was in my 20s&#8217;, apparently our parents judged me to be the more responsible child, because I was more stable and more responsible with my own financial/real estate/employment affairs.  The older sibling was provided a college education, numerous vehicles, and basically wasted our parents&#8217; sacrifices of sending him to college, as he worked in non-skilled employment for decades, even though he holds two college degrees.  I on the other hand (unwisely at age 18) got married and did not go to college and started a family, was subsequently divorced after several years and raised my children on my own, always keeping my bills paid, etc.  I was also appointed power of attorney for both parents (effective when the first parent died) and they also had advanced healthcare directives.<br />
Well, after the first parent died, the widowed parent lived another several years in declining health, and even though my sibling lived much closer to the remaining parents house, he never cut her grass or really much of anything.  My own family and I were the ones who brought the parent his or her medications, groceries, performed innumerable tasks including doctor visits as this widowed parent did not drive.  A few years into widowhood, the remaining parent changed his/her will to direct distribution of assets to 75/25; the lesser percentage going to the sibling who did little or nothing to care for the widowed parent.  Also, my family and I took our ailing widowed parent into our home and cared for him/her until his/her death.  Before he/she died, the widowed parent appointed a non-blood relative whom he/she trusted to be Trustee to an estate he/she had created before their death, so my sibling and I would not fight further.  This dying parent of ours realized that this was the only way to ensure our parent&#8217;s legacy/estate was distributed according to the &#8220;new&#8221; will.  Of course, this did not sit well with older sibling, but like our dying parent stated &#8220;if you did 50% of the things (my name here) and their family did for me, then (sibling name here) would be getting 50%.  The dying parent knew anything monetary would be most likely squandered.  </p>
<p>So now I am the Villian By Proxy because of our parent&#8217;s decision to make these ammends to his/her will.  The best I can do is finish my job of distributing the deceased parents&#8217; personal property, as the real estate and life insurance money was put in the Trust, and will be distributed per the &#8220;75/25&#8243; in the next few months.  </p>
<p>I would like some advice on how to handle this, as now I am between an inherited rock and a hard space.  </p>
<p>Thanks, Victoria in Texas</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With multiple siblings, or people with interest, I&#039;ve almost never seen it go smoothly.  In every case there is a &quot;black sheep&quot;, in need of money or determined to get their fair share, who is fighting to get the biggest share they can.  My advise to my parents has always been, it&#039;s your money, spend it on yourselves and we&#039;ll deal with the leftovers.

The worst situation I ever witnessed, was people racing back from the funeral to a friend&#039;s great aunt&#039;s house, so they could stake claims to their share of the household contents.  There was actually pushing and shoving in that one.  It was sickening to witness.

Even with people you consider level headed, it can turn ugly over some simple thing.  How dare my sister in law get that good china!  She promised me I&#039;d get the jewelry!  It&#039;s always something, and every bad feeling that has been repressed for years will come to the fore.  It often takes time for it to heal. 

I&#039;m trying to teach my kids that it&#039;s my money, don&#039;t expect any, and I&#039;ll give you what I want when I want to.  No expectations.  Easy enough to say at this stage, but hopefully I&#039;ll follow some other advice I&#039;ve given my mother, and that&#039;s to pass any prized heirloom to people before you die.  That way, they may want to claim it as part of the estate, but they legally can&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With multiple siblings, or people with interest, I&#8217;ve almost never seen it go smoothly.  In every case there is a &#8220;black sheep&#8221;, in need of money or determined to get their fair share, who is fighting to get the biggest share they can.  My advise to my parents has always been, it&#8217;s your money, spend it on yourselves and we&#8217;ll deal with the leftovers.</p>
<p>The worst situation I ever witnessed, was people racing back from the funeral to a friend&#8217;s great aunt&#8217;s house, so they could stake claims to their share of the household contents.  There was actually pushing and shoving in that one.  It was sickening to witness.</p>
<p>Even with people you consider level headed, it can turn ugly over some simple thing.  How dare my sister in law get that good china!  She promised me I&#8217;d get the jewelry!  It&#8217;s always something, and every bad feeling that has been repressed for years will come to the fore.  It often takes time for it to heal. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m trying to teach my kids that it&#8217;s my money, don&#8217;t expect any, and I&#8217;ll give you what I want when I want to.  No expectations.  Easy enough to say at this stage, but hopefully I&#8217;ll follow some other advice I&#8217;ve given my mother, and that&#8217;s to pass any prized heirloom to people before you die.  That way, they may want to claim it as part of the estate, but they legally can&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Slappy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Slappy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 03:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A situation... I have been left a piece of property by my mother who recently passed away.  The property has always been used, and is currently being used, as a small parking lot and generates a little bit of income every month accordingly.  Recently, one of my sons expressed an interest in buying the property from me and bulding a house on it for his family.  My other son, hearing of this, is a bit upset.  While he has conveyed that it is my property, that I can certainly do with it what I like, and that he doesn&#039;t want to count his inheritance before I&#039;m dead (paraphrasing)... he has expressed that his interest is that I retain the property.  The land around the family lot is rapidly improving, the market is currently bad, and in 5-10 years it will probably be worth triple what it is now.  It behooves him that the asset remain in the estate to continue generating income in the interim and so a bigger nest egg can be divided in the future.  Is there a way to sell my property now to the son who wants it, but protect the interest of the other son to the value of the ineritance lost?  I suppose I could always leave more money to him in the end, but was hoping something could be done in the way of the sale/deed/etc. to avoid the problems associated with an unequal financial distribution as described in the story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A situation&#8230; I have been left a piece of property by my mother who recently passed away.  The property has always been used, and is currently being used, as a small parking lot and generates a little bit of income every month accordingly.  Recently, one of my sons expressed an interest in buying the property from me and bulding a house on it for his family.  My other son, hearing of this, is a bit upset.  While he has conveyed that it is my property, that I can certainly do with it what I like, and that he doesn&#8217;t want to count his inheritance before I&#8217;m dead (paraphrasing)&#8230; he has expressed that his interest is that I retain the property.  The land around the family lot is rapidly improving, the market is currently bad, and in 5-10 years it will probably be worth triple what it is now.  It behooves him that the asset remain in the estate to continue generating income in the interim and so a bigger nest egg can be divided in the future.  Is there a way to sell my property now to the son who wants it, but protect the interest of the other son to the value of the ineritance lost?  I suppose I could always leave more money to him in the end, but was hoping something could be done in the way of the sale/deed/etc. to avoid the problems associated with an unequal financial distribution as described in the story.</p>
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		<title>By: Angie Hartford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angie Hartford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 01:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t agree with Bill more: set up a revocable living trust, with a &quot;pour-over&quot; will to handle other issues. And to the many people who recommend a different executor: AMEN! 

Most importantly: do something, anything, about estate planning. It doesn&#039;t have to be perfect. It doesn&#039;t have to be a living trust (although most folks would benefit from one). But having your legal documents in place will help you to protect the relationships your family has with each other.

And Jenn&#039;s right: none of us are entitled to an inheritance. Yet I also believe that a family member who cares for another should be fairly compensated for their time and efforts, ideally not as part of an inheritance. But if that&#039;s the form it takes, so be it. And no whining from the folks who weren&#039;t there to change the Depends!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t agree with Bill more: set up a revocable living trust, with a &#8220;pour-over&#8221; will to handle other issues. And to the many people who recommend a different executor: AMEN! </p>
<p>Most importantly: do something, anything, about estate planning. It doesn&#8217;t have to be perfect. It doesn&#8217;t have to be a living trust (although most folks would benefit from one). But having your legal documents in place will help you to protect the relationships your family has with each other.</p>
<p>And Jenn&#8217;s right: none of us are entitled to an inheritance. Yet I also believe that a family member who cares for another should be fairly compensated for their time and efforts, ideally not as part of an inheritance. But if that&#8217;s the form it takes, so be it. And no whining from the folks who weren&#8217;t there to change the Depends!</p>
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		<title>By: Cameron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cameron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2007 00:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a sad story. This definitely will make me think when I write my own will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a sad story. This definitely will make me think when I write my own will.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 22:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is one of the things about our society that has always seemed wrong to me. No one is entitled to anything. It&#039;s Grandpa&#039;s property to do with as he pleases, and it seems very gruesome to me that it is not so uncommon for relatives to fight to get a share of a dieing man&#039;s estate. 

When it&#039;s time for me to die, remind me to leave everything to charity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is one of the things about our society that has always seemed wrong to me. No one is entitled to anything. It&#8217;s Grandpa&#8217;s property to do with as he pleases, and it seems very gruesome to me that it is not so uncommon for relatives to fight to get a share of a dieing man&#8217;s estate. </p>
<p>When it&#8217;s time for me to die, remind me to leave everything to charity.</p>
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		<title>By: KMull</title>
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		<dc:creator>KMull</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 12:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sad story! It shows you how committed these folks were to each other, truly. Come on people! You are brother and sister... 

I am glad the grandpa stuck it to the others who wanted nothing to do with the family in the end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sad story! It shows you how committed these folks were to each other, truly. Come on people! You are brother and sister&#8230; </p>
<p>I am glad the grandpa stuck it to the others who wanted nothing to do with the family in the end.</p>
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		<title>By: plonkee</title>
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		<dc:creator>plonkee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 12:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also think that its not really about the money when you write a will. Its about who was loved the most, who did the most for the dead person. If you care about the people that you&#039;re naming in the will, you have a responsibility to try not to make things worse. Once you&#039;re dead you can&#039;t fix it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also think that its not really about the money when you write a will. Its about who was loved the most, who did the most for the dead person. If you care about the people that you&#8217;re naming in the will, you have a responsibility to try not to make things worse. Once you&#8217;re dead you can&#8217;t fix it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mardee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mardee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2007 16:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops, sorry, I was responding to you, but I think you were actually quoting me. :)  However, the full line should read &quot;Anyone can file a will contest (and this is based on my state but many states have the same criteria) who would stand to inherit if the offending provision is set aside,&quot; Hence, my last comment (which should not have been directed to you). I think I need more coffee...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops, sorry, I was responding to you, but I think you were actually quoting me. :)  However, the full line should read &#8220;Anyone can file a will contest (and this is based on my state but many states have the same criteria) who would stand to inherit if the offending provision is set aside,&#8221; Hence, my last comment (which should not have been directed to you). I think I need more coffee&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mardee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mardee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2007 16:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Bill - generally, that&#039;s not quite true - the only people who can file a will contest in most, if not all, states are those who would inherit if the current will (or a provision of it) were set aside.  In my state, parents inherit before siblings when a person dies intestate.  So if Sibling A tried to contest Sibling B&#039;s will that left everything to Sibling B&#039;s girlfriend, Sibling A&#039;s claim would be dismissed. This is because without the will, the property would go to Sibling B&#039;s heirs, which would be his parents.  Therefore, Sibling A has no &quot;standing&quot; to sue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Bill &#8211; generally, that&#8217;s not quite true &#8211; the only people who can file a will contest in most, if not all, states are those who would inherit if the current will (or a provision of it) were set aside.  In my state, parents inherit before siblings when a person dies intestate.  So if Sibling A tried to contest Sibling B&#8217;s will that left everything to Sibling B&#8217;s girlfriend, Sibling A&#8217;s claim would be dismissed. This is because without the will, the property would go to Sibling B&#8217;s heirs, which would be his parents.  Therefore, Sibling A has no &#8220;standing&#8221; to sue.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 00:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s another reason grandpa should give away the land now (using part or all of his estate tax exemption if necessary)

Any challenges would then have to come while grandpa&#039;s still alive.

He only has to tell the court &quot;those greedy kids get nothing&quot; and it&#039;s over.

No multi-year fight in probate court.

And with a illiquid asset like land, you really, really want to get the land out of his hands ASAP and start that 5 year clock (Medicaid&#039;s new &quot;lookback&quot; period) running

Everything in a revocable living trust is accessible to Medicaid liens.

Since the money is already in a trust, I doubt a non-beneficiary could even see the terms of the trust (a court could still review it) - I think the lesson there is to NOT tell your disinherited kids the terms of the trust.

&gt;Anyone can file a will contest</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s another reason grandpa should give away the land now (using part or all of his estate tax exemption if necessary)</p>
<p>Any challenges would then have to come while grandpa&#8217;s still alive.</p>
<p>He only has to tell the court &#8220;those greedy kids get nothing&#8221; and it&#8217;s over.</p>
<p>No multi-year fight in probate court.</p>
<p>And with a illiquid asset like land, you really, really want to get the land out of his hands ASAP and start that 5 year clock (Medicaid&#8217;s new &#8220;lookback&#8221; period) running</p>
<p>Everything in a revocable living trust is accessible to Medicaid liens.</p>
<p>Since the money is already in a trust, I doubt a non-beneficiary could even see the terms of the trust (a court could still review it) &#8211; I think the lesson there is to NOT tell your disinherited kids the terms of the trust.</p>
<p>&gt;Anyone can file a will contest</p>
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		<title>By: Mardee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mardee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 21:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One last comment - several people have noted that they (or others) don&#039;t really need the inheritance.  However, it&#039;s usually never about the money - it&#039;s always about &quot;Who did Mom or Dad love best?&quot; Emotions play a big part in these disagreements.

By the way, just because you&#039;re named as executor, doesn&#039;t mean you have to serve as one (or accept the fee executors get).  That&#039;s why wills name alternate and second alternate executors.  If his being named executor is such a bone of contention, why not just step aside and let the attorney (or alternate) do it?  Or at the very least, notify the family the he won&#039;t accept the fee.  My brother was executor of both my dad&#039;s and mom&#039;s estate and never accepted a dime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One last comment &#8211; several people have noted that they (or others) don&#8217;t really need the inheritance.  However, it&#8217;s usually never about the money &#8211; it&#8217;s always about &#8220;Who did Mom or Dad love best?&#8221; Emotions play a big part in these disagreements.</p>
<p>By the way, just because you&#8217;re named as executor, doesn&#8217;t mean you have to serve as one (or accept the fee executors get).  That&#8217;s why wills name alternate and second alternate executors.  If his being named executor is such a bone of contention, why not just step aside and let the attorney (or alternate) do it?  Or at the very least, notify the family the he won&#8217;t accept the fee.  My brother was executor of both my dad&#8217;s and mom&#8217;s estate and never accepted a dime.</p>
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		<title>By: Mardee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mardee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 21:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope that grandpa has a good attorney to draft his will because I&#039;ll bet you anything that as soon as he dies, the 2 left-over kids are going to file an action to contest the will and/or the trust under some kind of &quot;undue influence&quot; grounds.  And while they may not win, it will cost the estate a lot of money to defend it. Roger says there&#039;s &quot;no point&quot; to legal action, but you&#039;d be surprised at what little it takes to get someone to file a claim. Anyone can file a will contest (and this is based on my state but many states have the same criteria) who would stand to inherit if the offending provision is set aside - in this case, the 2 children who have been disinherited.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope that grandpa has a good attorney to draft his will because I&#8217;ll bet you anything that as soon as he dies, the 2 left-over kids are going to file an action to contest the will and/or the trust under some kind of &#8220;undue influence&#8221; grounds.  And while they may not win, it will cost the estate a lot of money to defend it. Roger says there&#8217;s &#8220;no point&#8221; to legal action, but you&#8217;d be surprised at what little it takes to get someone to file a claim. Anyone can file a will contest (and this is based on my state but many states have the same criteria) who would stand to inherit if the offending provision is set aside &#8211; in this case, the 2 children who have been disinherited.</p>
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		<title>By: Jenn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 17:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An inheritance pretty much tore apart my family too. The problem is that unless nobody actually really NEEDS the inheritance, there&#039;s always going to be bad blood. My uncle lived pretty much his entire life mooching off people and waiting for my grandfather to die so he could collect what he thought would be at least half million dollars. He had big plans for get-rich schemes from this initial investment, and often attended seminars. Well, my grandpa lived to a ripe old age, and by the time my uncle got his money, which was less than expected, he had been diagnosed with Parkinson&#039;s and was an old man himself. On top of that, my grandpa didn&#039;t give him a lump sum, but put the money in a trust for distribution along with the grandchildren... because he knew a lump sum would be gone in a heartbeat and my uncle wouldn&#039;t have enough to pay medical expenses. My uncle and grandfather also barely spoke in the last 10-20 years, partly because of the money issue.

Don&#039;t depend on an inheritance. Don&#039;t wait like a vulture for someone close to you to die. And certainly don&#039;t think you&#039;re ENTITLED to anything... an inheritance is a gift from someone you love. Don&#039;t take it for granted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An inheritance pretty much tore apart my family too. The problem is that unless nobody actually really NEEDS the inheritance, there&#8217;s always going to be bad blood. My uncle lived pretty much his entire life mooching off people and waiting for my grandfather to die so he could collect what he thought would be at least half million dollars. He had big plans for get-rich schemes from this initial investment, and often attended seminars. Well, my grandpa lived to a ripe old age, and by the time my uncle got his money, which was less than expected, he had been diagnosed with Parkinson&#8217;s and was an old man himself. On top of that, my grandpa didn&#8217;t give him a lump sum, but put the money in a trust for distribution along with the grandchildren&#8230; because he knew a lump sum would be gone in a heartbeat and my uncle wouldn&#8217;t have enough to pay medical expenses. My uncle and grandfather also barely spoke in the last 10-20 years, partly because of the money issue.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t depend on an inheritance. Don&#8217;t wait like a vulture for someone close to you to die. And certainly don&#8217;t think you&#8217;re ENTITLED to anything&#8230; an inheritance is a gift from someone you love. Don&#8217;t take it for granted.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 15:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Grandpa should distribute the land now.

The problem with those who are land rich but cash poor is that the state often ends up footing their bills via Medicaid.

And the state WILL attach a lien to real property (and bring any other asset transfers in the last 5 years back into the estate) to recover their costs.

My wife&#039;s grandparents distributed their farm between their kids over 20 years ago, while they were still relatively healthy.

Grandma&#039;s still alive in her 90s and lives with her youngest child.

And the family farm is still in the family.

After having cared for my mom for 10 years before she passed away last fall, I say Rick does indeed deserve the larger share of the land AND the money.

Many in that situation are forced to forego income/career opportunities to care for their aging parents.

The typical story on my online email support group has one of the children (often the youngest female) being &quot;elected&quot; to care for mom/dad.

They usually get kicked out of the house the day after the funeral (&quot;we have to get it ready to sell&quot;), after spending 5-10 years caring for their parent. 

Try restarting a career after a decade out of your field.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grandpa should distribute the land now.</p>
<p>The problem with those who are land rich but cash poor is that the state often ends up footing their bills via Medicaid.</p>
<p>And the state WILL attach a lien to real property (and bring any other asset transfers in the last 5 years back into the estate) to recover their costs.</p>
<p>My wife&#8217;s grandparents distributed their farm between their kids over 20 years ago, while they were still relatively healthy.</p>
<p>Grandma&#8217;s still alive in her 90s and lives with her youngest child.</p>
<p>And the family farm is still in the family.</p>
<p>After having cared for my mom for 10 years before she passed away last fall, I say Rick does indeed deserve the larger share of the land AND the money.</p>
<p>Many in that situation are forced to forego income/career opportunities to care for their aging parents.</p>
<p>The typical story on my online email support group has one of the children (often the youngest female) being &#8220;elected&#8221; to care for mom/dad.</p>
<p>They usually get kicked out of the house the day after the funeral (&#8221;we have to get it ready to sell&#8221;), after spending 5-10 years caring for their parent. </p>
<p>Try restarting a career after a decade out of your field.</p>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 05:02:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My grandfather is in very poor health (largely because he does not and has never really followed doctors advice about managing his diabetes). When I was a little girl I thought he was wonderful... funny, interesting (musician), and very sweet. 

As I grew older I noticed that he was never really one to reach out to his family to maintain relations - he waited for everyone else to come to him. I learned much later (in my 20&#039;s) that following his divorce from my grandmother, he did not meet his finacial obligations to his children (to spite my grandma apparently) and was able to get away with it like many men before better enforcement of child support decrees. 

Of his four children - one was a life long drug abuser who died young (five kids and a widow left completely destitute), leaving my mother and her two other siblings. He is currently waging a very disturbing campaign of emotional and financial bribery. He is using the promise of his decent sized estate to try to lure his kids into his life at this later stage because he didn&#039;t do the parental groundwork before. 

My mom and uncle each are financially sound enough that they are not scrambling at the dollars being waved. My aunt however, fell for it and has been doting on him (took him into her home and nursing him essentially). An argument arose and he got mad and told her he was gonna cut her out of most of his estate (leaving her $1000) and that he&#039;d leave the rest to her two siblings.  *Note: my aunt and her husband have never been fiscally responsible and burned through the inheritances they each received after the deaths of their respective mothers.

My aunt came to BELIEVE that my grandfather&#039;s money is OWED to her because she is not as financially prepared as her siblings and because she took in my grandpa for a time. it has turned ugly and she has been fighting with grandpa, my mom and uncle (who are each asking my grandfather not to let spite derail him from the estate planning he did years ago in which each of his children or their heirs will share equally). 

My aunt is so worried about further antagonizing my granfather she has turned on her siblings instead. Very sad and ugly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My grandfather is in very poor health (largely because he does not and has never really followed doctors advice about managing his diabetes). When I was a little girl I thought he was wonderful&#8230; funny, interesting (musician), and very sweet. </p>
<p>As I grew older I noticed that he was never really one to reach out to his family to maintain relations &#8211; he waited for everyone else to come to him. I learned much later (in my 20&#8217;s) that following his divorce from my grandmother, he did not meet his finacial obligations to his children (to spite my grandma apparently) and was able to get away with it like many men before better enforcement of child support decrees. </p>
<p>Of his four children &#8211; one was a life long drug abuser who died young (five kids and a widow left completely destitute), leaving my mother and her two other siblings. He is currently waging a very disturbing campaign of emotional and financial bribery. He is using the promise of his decent sized estate to try to lure his kids into his life at this later stage because he didn&#8217;t do the parental groundwork before. </p>
<p>My mom and uncle each are financially sound enough that they are not scrambling at the dollars being waved. My aunt however, fell for it and has been doting on him (took him into her home and nursing him essentially). An argument arose and he got mad and told her he was gonna cut her out of most of his estate (leaving her $1000) and that he&#8217;d leave the rest to her two siblings.  *Note: my aunt and her husband have never been fiscally responsible and burned through the inheritances they each received after the deaths of their respective mothers.</p>
<p>My aunt came to BELIEVE that my grandfather&#8217;s money is OWED to her because she is not as financially prepared as her siblings and because she took in my grandpa for a time. it has turned ugly and she has been fighting with grandpa, my mom and uncle (who are each asking my grandfather not to let spite derail him from the estate planning he did years ago in which each of his children or their heirs will share equally). </p>
<p>My aunt is so worried about further antagonizing my granfather she has turned on her siblings instead. Very sad and ugly.</p>
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		<title>By: ck_dex</title>
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		<dc:creator>ck_dex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 03:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see how anyone in this family can count on getting a dime given the grandfather&#039;s state of health. If he goes into the hospital or assisted living for several months, that will blow a big hole in the money. 

If he is sure he won&#039;t be agreeing to any further medical care, he could head-off some of the fights by distributing the maximum allowable distribution of $12K per year to family or friends of his choice. And/or he could begin distributing the land now and gift money to cover the taxes.

Sounds like a mess that could have been avoided with a $1,500 visit to an estate lawyer, or at least by picking up a NOLO book on estate planning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see how anyone in this family can count on getting a dime given the grandfather&#8217;s state of health. If he goes into the hospital or assisted living for several months, that will blow a big hole in the money. </p>
<p>If he is sure he won&#8217;t be agreeing to any further medical care, he could head-off some of the fights by distributing the maximum allowable distribution of $12K per year to family or friends of his choice. And/or he could begin distributing the land now and gift money to cover the taxes.</p>
<p>Sounds like a mess that could have been avoided with a $1,500 visit to an estate lawyer, or at least by picking up a NOLO book on estate planning.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 01:41:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When my grandmother got sick my father and uncle started fighting over her money.  She already had a trust set-up but because of the arguing she changed the distribution and gave each of them very little and split the remainder between her 5 grandchildren.  Even though this was all in writing they still dragged the issue to court and ended up costing the trust well over seventy thousand dollars in legal expenses and other costs just to have the distribution remain the same.  Basically all they did was rob their children of about $14,000 each.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When my grandmother got sick my father and uncle started fighting over her money.  She already had a trust set-up but because of the arguing she changed the distribution and gave each of them very little and split the remainder between her 5 grandchildren.  Even though this was all in writing they still dragged the issue to court and ended up costing the trust well over seventy thousand dollars in legal expenses and other costs just to have the distribution remain the same.  Basically all they did was rob their children of about $14,000 each.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 00:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This happened with both my mother and grandmother who passed within a year of each other.  Both had no will and in both cases &quot;outsiders&quot; a step father and his kids in my mothers case and a daughter from a first marriage (an aunt who showed up a year prior that I barely knew to &quot;take care&quot; of my grandmother) were in position to basically keep everything so my brothers and sisters and I got exactly nothing--not even pictures.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This happened with both my mother and grandmother who passed within a year of each other.  Both had no will and in both cases &#8220;outsiders&#8221; a step father and his kids in my mothers case and a daughter from a first marriage (an aunt who showed up a year prior that I barely knew to &#8220;take care&#8221; of my grandmother) were in position to basically keep everything so my brothers and sisters and I got exactly nothing&#8211;not even pictures.</p>
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