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		<title>By: Sara Bee</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/06/24/pets-and-money/#comment-739734</link>
		<dc:creator>Sara Bee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 15:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just can&#039;t keep my thoughts to myself even though the last comment was almost two years ago.

As others have said, getting a pet is a promise to care for it.  Dumping it because the cost is more than you expected or planned for is cruel and inhumane.  

There are other options for cutting costs as mentioned by others, but you MUST keep up with shots, and; especially in the south; with parasite prevention.

Should your own situation really makes it impossible to keep your pet, finding it a good home is an absolute must, No Excuses!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just can&#8217;t keep my thoughts to myself even though the last comment was almost two years ago.</p>
<p>As others have said, getting a pet is a promise to care for it.  Dumping it because the cost is more than you expected or planned for is cruel and inhumane.  </p>
<p>There are other options for cutting costs as mentioned by others, but you MUST keep up with shots, and; especially in the south; with parasite prevention.</p>
<p>Should your own situation really makes it impossible to keep your pet, finding it a good home is an absolute must, No Excuses!</p>
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		<title>By: Lori</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/06/24/pets-and-money/#comment-129793</link>
		<dc:creator>Lori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 05:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi, Trent,

Boy, you opened a can of worms with this one! You sure are brave to keep the topic posted. I agree that one should carefully consider whether to initially take on a pet as there are many costs involved and ideally one should take responsibility for that pet for a lifetime.

I think where I and other readers disagree with you is in giving up an already beloved pet to save a few bucks. I think most of us would rather work an extra job or give up something else before we removed a member of our families in this way.

I realize not everyone thinks of their pets as family, but we do and I just can&#039;t imagine this. I&#039;d rather be broke than give up my precious babies.

Lori]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Trent,</p>
<p>Boy, you opened a can of worms with this one! You sure are brave to keep the topic posted. I agree that one should carefully consider whether to initially take on a pet as there are many costs involved and ideally one should take responsibility for that pet for a lifetime.</p>
<p>I think where I and other readers disagree with you is in giving up an already beloved pet to save a few bucks. I think most of us would rather work an extra job or give up something else before we removed a member of our families in this way.</p>
<p>I realize not everyone thinks of their pets as family, but we do and I just can&#8217;t imagine this. I&#8217;d rather be broke than give up my precious babies.</p>
<p>Lori</p>
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		<title>By: Dina</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/06/24/pets-and-money/#comment-103044</link>
		<dc:creator>Dina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 14:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I do feel that people need to be much more careful when they adopt pets, thinking it through fo rthe long term.

We have been trying to cut down the budget, and I know that A) the dog&#039;s unexpected vet bills are one of the 5-6 things that sent us over our monthly budget over the past 2 years. (list also includes &quot;cheap&quot; 3-day vacations, car repairs, birthday parties/christmas.)
B) If we were in really dire straights, finding him a new home would have to be something to consider, but definitely one of the last things on the list to consider.

I think people are feeling insulted thinking that pet expenses rank with cable and new clothes.  I do think that when you adopt an animal, you do it for life, and you make caring for them a priority in your budget. I also don&#039;t buy that you have toprovide a stress-free enironment- I think an animal is better off staying with one owner as long as basic food, sanitary and health needs are met. 

In short- it should be a top priority, but it is something to consider if you&#039;re really sinking finacially.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do feel that people need to be much more careful when they adopt pets, thinking it through fo rthe long term.</p>
<p>We have been trying to cut down the budget, and I know that A) the dog&#8217;s unexpected vet bills are one of the 5-6 things that sent us over our monthly budget over the past 2 years. (list also includes &#8220;cheap&#8221; 3-day vacations, car repairs, birthday parties/christmas.)<br />
B) If we were in really dire straights, finding him a new home would have to be something to consider, but definitely one of the last things on the list to consider.</p>
<p>I think people are feeling insulted thinking that pet expenses rank with cable and new clothes.  I do think that when you adopt an animal, you do it for life, and you make caring for them a priority in your budget. I also don&#8217;t buy that you have toprovide a stress-free enironment- I think an animal is better off staying with one owner as long as basic food, sanitary and health needs are met. </p>
<p>In short- it should be a top priority, but it is something to consider if you&#8217;re really sinking finacially.</p>
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		<title>By: Maureen</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/06/24/pets-and-money/#comment-84383</link>
		<dc:creator>Maureen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 22:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My mom adopted a small dog that the owners no longer had money or time for. Its sad he was in this situation, but now....he&#039;s not. He has a loving home and they adore each other. It was a good option for all involved and most especially for little Bo. He went from being a burden to one family to being the light of someone elses, and whats wrong with that?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My mom adopted a small dog that the owners no longer had money or time for. Its sad he was in this situation, but now&#8230;.he&#8217;s not. He has a loving home and they adore each other. It was a good option for all involved and most especially for little Bo. He went from being a burden to one family to being the light of someone elses, and whats wrong with that?</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/06/24/pets-and-money/#comment-79505</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 17:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m coming in late, I know. 
I just want to comment on the statement made several times that these animals look to us for care.  Isn&#039;t that just because we have domesticated them? Not all dogs are cut out for this civilized world, but mine could definitely feed himself and is constantly trying, chasing squirrels and bunnies with complete abandon (at the end of a leash).  Cars might prove to be too much for him, that&#039;s true, but other than that he&#039;d survive.  He is comfortable here but he would be out of here if it were up to him.  He likes my companionship because I have created a situation where I am his most constant companion, but I don&#039;t know that I think he would choose me over other dogs and running wild, given the choice.  He&#039;s not looking to me for care.  He is in a human home by human choice and is actually held captive by me, like a prisoner with a very cushy cell.  Don&#039;t feel like you are doing what the animal wants by caring for it. It just cannot reason that way.  The animal does what feels good, and it learns that getting out of your house is difficult, but there&#039;s food and warmth and companionship here, so why not stay.
I&#039;m not discounting the love WE have for the dog.  I almost had to have exploratory surgery on my dog this week because he just wouldn&#039;t eat (it was bacterial and antibiotics worked). I was willing to pay, but I knew that the money spent would be for MY benefit to save the dog&#039;s life, not because there is some higher directive to save a dog no matter what. There would be no question about killing a sick chicken rather than doing $1000 of surgery to save them. Dogs are no different, except for our capacity to love them. I do think God gave us dogs for companionship, but also to learn lessons about the difference between humans and animals, and to teach you about yourself.  Spend all you want to keep your pet with you, but don&#039;t fool yourself that there is anything other than your own feelings involved.  The pet simply does not have the mental capacity of a human.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m coming in late, I know.<br />
I just want to comment on the statement made several times that these animals look to us for care.  Isn&#8217;t that just because we have domesticated them? Not all dogs are cut out for this civilized world, but mine could definitely feed himself and is constantly trying, chasing squirrels and bunnies with complete abandon (at the end of a leash).  Cars might prove to be too much for him, that&#8217;s true, but other than that he&#8217;d survive.  He is comfortable here but he would be out of here if it were up to him.  He likes my companionship because I have created a situation where I am his most constant companion, but I don&#8217;t know that I think he would choose me over other dogs and running wild, given the choice.  He&#8217;s not looking to me for care.  He is in a human home by human choice and is actually held captive by me, like a prisoner with a very cushy cell.  Don&#8217;t feel like you are doing what the animal wants by caring for it. It just cannot reason that way.  The animal does what feels good, and it learns that getting out of your house is difficult, but there&#8217;s food and warmth and companionship here, so why not stay.<br />
I&#8217;m not discounting the love WE have for the dog.  I almost had to have exploratory surgery on my dog this week because he just wouldn&#8217;t eat (it was bacterial and antibiotics worked). I was willing to pay, but I knew that the money spent would be for MY benefit to save the dog&#8217;s life, not because there is some higher directive to save a dog no matter what. There would be no question about killing a sick chicken rather than doing $1000 of surgery to save them. Dogs are no different, except for our capacity to love them. I do think God gave us dogs for companionship, but also to learn lessons about the difference between humans and animals, and to teach you about yourself.  Spend all you want to keep your pet with you, but don&#8217;t fool yourself that there is anything other than your own feelings involved.  The pet simply does not have the mental capacity of a human.</p>
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		<title>By: Candy</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/06/24/pets-and-money/#comment-67300</link>
		<dc:creator>Candy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 15:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t agree with vh, I own 2 standard poodles and 3 cats. Our household income is no where near the 80k mark. And my animals live healthy and full lives. I have a place in our budget for pet care. And I am constantly looking for ways to save money on their care without sacrificing their well being.
I think the strongest points have been made. Know what you are getting yourself into first and then do whatever is necessary to keep your pets. I would go so far as to trim other areas of the budget and/or get a 2nd job for my animals.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t agree with vh, I own 2 standard poodles and 3 cats. Our household income is no where near the 80k mark. And my animals live healthy and full lives. I have a place in our budget for pet care. And I am constantly looking for ways to save money on their care without sacrificing their well being.<br />
I think the strongest points have been made. Know what you are getting yourself into first and then do whatever is necessary to keep your pets. I would go so far as to trim other areas of the budget and/or get a 2nd job for my animals.</p>
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		<title>By: sandy</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/06/24/pets-and-money/#comment-55927</link>
		<dc:creator>sandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 05:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi, 

Honestly even if i was undergoing financial difficulties it would be very hard to get rid of my pets. I have a cat and a dog...Both of which it would break my heart to lose. They are my companions friends and very much a part of my family. Of course my dog is a very small dog (the cat out weighs her by a good 10 pounds) and doesnt  cost as much per month in food as say a german shepard would.

I would make an effort to find ways to make keeping them less expensive...such as...finding somewhere to get sand in place of litter, purchasing a set of clippers instead of taking the dog to a groomer, getting coupons for canned or dry food. Purchasing toys for them from say a dollar store or making toys from old materials at home, when you travel take the pet to a friend or family member to care for rather than a kennel. take your pet to a vet in a rural area rather than the city. Our vet makes house calls for the cattle and horses and if the family pets need to be seen while hes there he sees them as well and makes it all one bill...he also shares out the mileage between farms by seeing 3 or 4 farms on  a trip out.

Theres all sorts of ways to lessen the cost of a pet without causing them serious stress by uprooting them from a home and family they trust know and feel safe with. Moving to a new home with the same family is stressful enough for a pet.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, </p>
<p>Honestly even if i was undergoing financial difficulties it would be very hard to get rid of my pets. I have a cat and a dog&#8230;Both of which it would break my heart to lose. They are my companions friends and very much a part of my family. Of course my dog is a very small dog (the cat out weighs her by a good 10 pounds) and doesnt  cost as much per month in food as say a german shepard would.</p>
<p>I would make an effort to find ways to make keeping them less expensive&#8230;such as&#8230;finding somewhere to get sand in place of litter, purchasing a set of clippers instead of taking the dog to a groomer, getting coupons for canned or dry food. Purchasing toys for them from say a dollar store or making toys from old materials at home, when you travel take the pet to a friend or family member to care for rather than a kennel. take your pet to a vet in a rural area rather than the city. Our vet makes house calls for the cattle and horses and if the family pets need to be seen while hes there he sees them as well and makes it all one bill&#8230;he also shares out the mileage between farms by seeing 3 or 4 farms on  a trip out.</p>
<p>Theres all sorts of ways to lessen the cost of a pet without causing them serious stress by uprooting them from a home and family they trust know and feel safe with. Moving to a new home with the same family is stressful enough for a pet.</p>
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		<title>By: jon</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/06/24/pets-and-money/#comment-55410</link>
		<dc:creator>jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 13:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[forget pets!!! another thing that has not been considered here is just how expensive children are!  my wife and i had 2 kids.  every month we sat down and took a look at our finances we saw that we were doing EVERYTHING we could to save money, be fiscally responsible.  every month we came back to the same issue that was draining our savings and expendable cash...the children.  therefore, we sat down and discussed an exit strategy...from parenthood.  there was a wonderful agency operating in the midwest that placed our children with a loving family.  we even pressed our luck and asked if those families were willing to &quot;kick down&quot; $15-20,000 for each kid.  to our astonishment, we earned $32,000 for both kids.  we were able to pay down loans and other extraneous debts, go on a wonderful vacation, and have some left over for weekend &quot;flex cash&quot; for dinners, get-aways, etc.  we are currently looking at ways to capture and sell other &quot;financial drains&quot; in our extended families.  (if you didnt laugh, you are too uptight) have great day.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>forget pets!!! another thing that has not been considered here is just how expensive children are!  my wife and i had 2 kids.  every month we sat down and took a look at our finances we saw that we were doing EVERYTHING we could to save money, be fiscally responsible.  every month we came back to the same issue that was draining our savings and expendable cash&#8230;the children.  therefore, we sat down and discussed an exit strategy&#8230;from parenthood.  there was a wonderful agency operating in the midwest that placed our children with a loving family.  we even pressed our luck and asked if those families were willing to &#8220;kick down&#8221; $15-20,000 for each kid.  to our astonishment, we earned $32,000 for both kids.  we were able to pay down loans and other extraneous debts, go on a wonderful vacation, and have some left over for weekend &#8220;flex cash&#8221; for dinners, get-aways, etc.  we are currently looking at ways to capture and sell other &#8220;financial drains&#8221; in our extended families.  (if you didnt laugh, you are too uptight) have great day.</p>
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		<title>By: vh</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/06/24/pets-and-money/#comment-49092</link>
		<dc:creator>vh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2007 13:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Check out the 40 tips for saving money Trent has posted. I do every single one of those. I haven&#039;t bought new clothes in almost a year, and the last time I did buy clothing was when it was marked down 50%. I do not drink coffee, and so I do not diddle away money at Starbucks. I do not drink alcohol. I never go out to eat. Every light in the house is a CFC and in 114-degree heat my air conditioning is turned up to 82 degrees. I am frugal, Kristi, to extremes. When I got these dogs 12 years ago, there was no clue they would cost several thousand dollars a year to maintain; had I known that would be the case, I would not have gotten them. That&#039;s my point: we should all know that, in the Brave New Pet World, huge expenses are very likely to be the case! 

Unless you earn a LOT of money--I would estimate a household income of $80,000 to $120,000--you should not take on a pet. If you are single and a teacher or a state employee with no source of income but your job, you cannot afford a pet.

And no, I would not farm my pals out to someone else, even if someone out there would take on two 12-year-old dogs, one of them going blind and lame and the other plagued with allergies that can cause him to emit so much methane I cannot have my friends over to my home, and both of which have to live INSIDE and not be turned out into the yard. Would you like to take in such an animal? Can you afford it?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out the 40 tips for saving money Trent has posted. I do every single one of those. I haven&#8217;t bought new clothes in almost a year, and the last time I did buy clothing was when it was marked down 50%. I do not drink coffee, and so I do not diddle away money at Starbucks. I do not drink alcohol. I never go out to eat. Every light in the house is a CFC and in 114-degree heat my air conditioning is turned up to 82 degrees. I am frugal, Kristi, to extremes. When I got these dogs 12 years ago, there was no clue they would cost several thousand dollars a year to maintain; had I known that would be the case, I would not have gotten them. That&#8217;s my point: we should all know that, in the Brave New Pet World, huge expenses are very likely to be the case! </p>
<p>Unless you earn a LOT of money&#8211;I would estimate a household income of $80,000 to $120,000&#8211;you should not take on a pet. If you are single and a teacher or a state employee with no source of income but your job, you cannot afford a pet.</p>
<p>And no, I would not farm my pals out to someone else, even if someone out there would take on two 12-year-old dogs, one of them going blind and lame and the other plagued with allergies that can cause him to emit so much methane I cannot have my friends over to my home, and both of which have to live INSIDE and not be turned out into the yard. Would you like to take in such an animal? Can you afford it?</p>
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		<title>By: Denise</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/06/24/pets-and-money/#comment-43626</link>
		<dc:creator>Denise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 21:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I casually ask people in job interviews about their pets to find out more about their personality.  I have found that animal lovers have almost 100% of the time been my best employees. Why?  They tend to be loyal and almost always tend to have stronger integrity than non-animal lovers.

If during the interview process, I find that someone moved to the city and left their dog behind because their new apartment wouldn&#039;t allow pets, I smile and say, &quot;Nice to meet you.  Don&#039;t call us, we&#039;ll call you.&quot;  Then as they walk out, I think to myself, &quot;Find an apartment that will allow pets you insensitive jerk.&quot;  The so-called &quot;small talk&quot; during interviews is not just small talk.  What the interviewer is actually doing is finding out more about you in a less formal sort of way.  Almost all of my colleagues nationwide ask about pets in interviews.  The person&#039;s response to the pet question is a huge indicator of their personality.  

If I found out someone gave up a pet for finances, I wouldn&#039;t hire them.  That&#039;s telling me they&#039;re more loyal to their wallet than anything else including moral responsibility and I don&#039;t want those types of employees working for me.  I simply find it absurd. 

When you get to the level of work that I hire people for, integrity is the most important thing I look for.  Giving up your pet for your wallet is the opposite of integrity. So Trent, giving up your pet just may be the most expensive thing someone could do, because they&#039;re not gonna get a job at my firm if they take your advice.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I casually ask people in job interviews about their pets to find out more about their personality.  I have found that animal lovers have almost 100% of the time been my best employees. Why?  They tend to be loyal and almost always tend to have stronger integrity than non-animal lovers.</p>
<p>If during the interview process, I find that someone moved to the city and left their dog behind because their new apartment wouldn&#8217;t allow pets, I smile and say, &#8220;Nice to meet you.  Don&#8217;t call us, we&#8217;ll call you.&#8221;  Then as they walk out, I think to myself, &#8220;Find an apartment that will allow pets you insensitive jerk.&#8221;  The so-called &#8220;small talk&#8221; during interviews is not just small talk.  What the interviewer is actually doing is finding out more about you in a less formal sort of way.  Almost all of my colleagues nationwide ask about pets in interviews.  The person&#8217;s response to the pet question is a huge indicator of their personality.  </p>
<p>If I found out someone gave up a pet for finances, I wouldn&#8217;t hire them.  That&#8217;s telling me they&#8217;re more loyal to their wallet than anything else including moral responsibility and I don&#8217;t want those types of employees working for me.  I simply find it absurd. </p>
<p>When you get to the level of work that I hire people for, integrity is the most important thing I look for.  Giving up your pet for your wallet is the opposite of integrity. So Trent, giving up your pet just may be the most expensive thing someone could do, because they&#8217;re not gonna get a job at my firm if they take your advice.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristi</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/06/24/pets-and-money/#comment-43612</link>
		<dc:creator>Kristi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 21:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[People shouldn&#039;t get pets without being able to take care of the pet for its entire life.  It&#039;s a long-term commitment in most cases, and that anyone would give up their pet due to some financial struggle just shows their immaturity in getting the pet in the first place.  If you&#039;re not willing to make sacrifices for your pet, you shouldn&#039;t have one.  If it means sacrificing a latte or a new outfit each month, then just DO IT. 

I seriously can&#039;t trust people who have such small regard for animals.  I won&#039;t do business with them, I won&#039;t befriend them - they&#039;re usually shady people.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People shouldn&#8217;t get pets without being able to take care of the pet for its entire life.  It&#8217;s a long-term commitment in most cases, and that anyone would give up their pet due to some financial struggle just shows their immaturity in getting the pet in the first place.  If you&#8217;re not willing to make sacrifices for your pet, you shouldn&#8217;t have one.  If it means sacrificing a latte or a new outfit each month, then just DO IT. </p>
<p>I seriously can&#8217;t trust people who have such small regard for animals.  I won&#8217;t do business with them, I won&#8217;t befriend them &#8211; they&#8217;re usually shady people.</p>
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		<title>By: bree</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/06/24/pets-and-money/#comment-42765</link>
		<dc:creator>bree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 18:01:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think it depends just how dire your financial situation is. If you&#039;re unable to provide basic necessities for your family (including your pet) you have to take drastic measures, including possibly finding a new home for your pet. It&#039;s not a decision that should be taken lightly, but I can see how it could be the right choice in certain situations. I also agree with Trent&#039;s comment that it&#039;s the owner&#039;s responsibility to find a new home for the animal (rather than simply dropping the pet off at an already overcrowded shelter).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it depends just how dire your financial situation is. If you&#8217;re unable to provide basic necessities for your family (including your pet) you have to take drastic measures, including possibly finding a new home for your pet. It&#8217;s not a decision that should be taken lightly, but I can see how it could be the right choice in certain situations. I also agree with Trent&#8217;s comment that it&#8217;s the owner&#8217;s responsibility to find a new home for the animal (rather than simply dropping the pet off at an already overcrowded shelter).</p>
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		<title>By: vh</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/06/24/pets-and-money/#comment-41350</link>
		<dc:creator>vh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 04:32:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve had cats most of my life and dogs all my adult life, but as Rob in Madrid points out, times have changed when it comes to what we&#039;re expected to do for our pets. 

My two ninety-pound dogs--one an adopted greyhound, pace pet-lovers--cost way more than I can afford in vet bills, medications, and food (especially after the recent pet-food flap, which has led me to cook 28 pounds of homemade dog food a week in my kitchen and on my grill). The veterinary industry (yes--that&#039;s what one veterinary trade group&#039;s online site calls it!) has got pet-lovers by the proverbial cojones: shots, annual checkups, and a whole rainbow of drugs to give your dog for the rest of its life for this or that chronic ailment...and to get permission to pony up 80 to 150 bucks per Rx for those drugs, you schlep the dog in every six months for a $200 checkup. My German shepherd, in theory, should be medicated six times a day with pricey pills and amazingly expensive eyedrops that require me to take her in for $800 worth of routine checks a year.  When my employer saw fit to cut my pay along with everyone else&#039;s, I cut the meds back by about 30%, and interestingly the dog doesn&#039;t seem to be much the worse. Feeding her real food instead of kibble &amp; canned gunk made such a huge improvement in her health, maybe she just doesn&#039;t need all those meds...who knows?

I love my sidekicks and would never put them down just because they&#039;re 12 years old, ailing, and costing me out of house and home. But assuredly, oh so assuredly: I will NEVER get another dog. Or cat. After these two pass through the Doggy Veil, a bird feeder in the backyard will provide animal companionship around my house.

It&#039;s not that I don&#039;t love my pets. It&#039;s that owning a dog (and this probably applies to cats, too) is now beyond the means of a single middle-class American wage earner.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve had cats most of my life and dogs all my adult life, but as Rob in Madrid points out, times have changed when it comes to what we&#8217;re expected to do for our pets. </p>
<p>My two ninety-pound dogs&#8211;one an adopted greyhound, pace pet-lovers&#8211;cost way more than I can afford in vet bills, medications, and food (especially after the recent pet-food flap, which has led me to cook 28 pounds of homemade dog food a week in my kitchen and on my grill). The veterinary industry (yes&#8211;that&#8217;s what one veterinary trade group&#8217;s online site calls it!) has got pet-lovers by the proverbial cojones: shots, annual checkups, and a whole rainbow of drugs to give your dog for the rest of its life for this or that chronic ailment&#8230;and to get permission to pony up 80 to 150 bucks per Rx for those drugs, you schlep the dog in every six months for a $200 checkup. My German shepherd, in theory, should be medicated six times a day with pricey pills and amazingly expensive eyedrops that require me to take her in for $800 worth of routine checks a year.  When my employer saw fit to cut my pay along with everyone else&#8217;s, I cut the meds back by about 30%, and interestingly the dog doesn&#8217;t seem to be much the worse. Feeding her real food instead of kibble &amp; canned gunk made such a huge improvement in her health, maybe she just doesn&#8217;t need all those meds&#8230;who knows?</p>
<p>I love my sidekicks and would never put them down just because they&#8217;re 12 years old, ailing, and costing me out of house and home. But assuredly, oh so assuredly: I will NEVER get another dog. Or cat. After these two pass through the Doggy Veil, a bird feeder in the backyard will provide animal companionship around my house.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not that I don&#8217;t love my pets. It&#8217;s that owning a dog (and this probably applies to cats, too) is now beyond the means of a single middle-class American wage earner.</p>
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		<title>By: R Kyles</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/06/24/pets-and-money/#comment-40880</link>
		<dc:creator>R Kyles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 19:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pets are not equivalent to children, spouses or elderly parents so to compare pets to them is unfair... They are indeed wonderful and true blue companions, but my opinion is shaped by experience. As a young girl our home was foreclosed, and my dog (my best friend) was the one that really suffered. My mother knew our financial situation was dire, but to keep us happy she kept our dog. Once the house was foreclosed no one would allow us to stay with them with a pet, so a &quot;friend&quot; volunteered to take care of our dog. Well, needless to say my dog was not taken care of, she was very mistreated, and died after a few months with this &quot;Friend&quot;... If your financial situation is bad do the humane thing and find your pet a new &quot;LOVING&quot; home.... I wish we could&#039;ve done the right thing for Delilah.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pets are not equivalent to children, spouses or elderly parents so to compare pets to them is unfair&#8230; They are indeed wonderful and true blue companions, but my opinion is shaped by experience. As a young girl our home was foreclosed, and my dog (my best friend) was the one that really suffered. My mother knew our financial situation was dire, but to keep us happy she kept our dog. Once the house was foreclosed no one would allow us to stay with them with a pet, so a &#8220;friend&#8221; volunteered to take care of our dog. Well, needless to say my dog was not taken care of, she was very mistreated, and died after a few months with this &#8220;Friend&#8221;&#8230; If your financial situation is bad do the humane thing and find your pet a new &#8220;LOVING&#8221; home&#8230;. I wish we could&#8217;ve done the right thing for Delilah.</p>
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		<title>By: Mitch</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/06/24/pets-and-money/#comment-39635</link>
		<dc:creator>Mitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 22:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Seriously, he includes reducing or eliminating cars, travel, and charitable giving (!) as trimming fat, which are several other things that many people would find--beyond the pale to give up.  If you had to choose between caring for your pets and caring for society... well, I am uncomfortable around animals, so that question doesn&#039;t really apply to me.  Considering the research that charitable pleas that feature a single individual&#039;s story receive stronger responses than those that feature statistics, I&#039;m guessing most people would care for the pets that are there, but does that mean the people who continue to give their pledged amount to, say, United Way but send their animals off with friends are necessarily horrible people?  

Some of the tips are for people trying to get 80% lean, others for 99% lean.  But we all know a little fat can increase satiety.  (8]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously, he includes reducing or eliminating cars, travel, and charitable giving (!) as trimming fat, which are several other things that many people would find&#8211;beyond the pale to give up.  If you had to choose between caring for your pets and caring for society&#8230; well, I am uncomfortable around animals, so that question doesn&#8217;t really apply to me.  Considering the research that charitable pleas that feature a single individual&#8217;s story receive stronger responses than those that feature statistics, I&#8217;m guessing most people would care for the pets that are there, but does that mean the people who continue to give their pledged amount to, say, United Way but send their animals off with friends are necessarily horrible people?  </p>
<p>Some of the tips are for people trying to get 80% lean, others for 99% lean.  But we all know a little fat can increase satiety.  (8</p>
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		<title>By: Leslie M-B</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/06/24/pets-and-money/#comment-39621</link>
		<dc:creator>Leslie M-B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 21:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with people on both sides of this debate.  Pets are a complicated issue, and yes, you are making a lifetime commitment to them when you adopt them, but when the pet&#039;s quality of life begins to suffer because you cannot adequately care for it, then you need to find a better home for it.  Does this mean dumping your dog when it needs expensive cancer treatments?  No.  I&#039;m not talking about end-of-life care here; I&#039;m talking about healthy pets (or pets who are now sick but who could recover and still lead healthy lives) who have a good chance of a second life in a better-fitting home.

I also want to emphasize how expensive pet care becomes as the animal ages.  We currently spend about $350/month in maintenance (mostly drugs, but also prescription food and chiropractic care) to keep our 14-year-old dog in fine form.  (This is on top of the thousands of dollars we already spent to repair his torn ACL and rehabilitate him when he was 11 years old.)  People often mistake him for a 2-year-old dog, and we&#039;re happy to pay for such quality of life--even though it has become a large financial burden--because we made a commitment to him long ago.  That said, we have also had long discussions about his end of life care--what we are willing to pay for (and put him through) and what we&#039;re not.  These are conversations everyone should have BEFORE adopting a pet.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with people on both sides of this debate.  Pets are a complicated issue, and yes, you are making a lifetime commitment to them when you adopt them, but when the pet&#8217;s quality of life begins to suffer because you cannot adequately care for it, then you need to find a better home for it.  Does this mean dumping your dog when it needs expensive cancer treatments?  No.  I&#8217;m not talking about end-of-life care here; I&#8217;m talking about healthy pets (or pets who are now sick but who could recover and still lead healthy lives) who have a good chance of a second life in a better-fitting home.</p>
<p>I also want to emphasize how expensive pet care becomes as the animal ages.  We currently spend about $350/month in maintenance (mostly drugs, but also prescription food and chiropractic care) to keep our 14-year-old dog in fine form.  (This is on top of the thousands of dollars we already spent to repair his torn ACL and rehabilitate him when he was 11 years old.)  People often mistake him for a 2-year-old dog, and we&#8217;re happy to pay for such quality of life&#8211;even though it has become a large financial burden&#8211;because we made a commitment to him long ago.  That said, we have also had long discussions about his end of life care&#8211;what we are willing to pay for (and put him through) and what we&#8217;re not.  These are conversations everyone should have BEFORE adopting a pet.</p>
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		<title>By: Jenners</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/06/24/pets-and-money/#comment-39531</link>
		<dc:creator>Jenners</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 17:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bill,

Actually, if you have a male cat, plain old dry kibble may NOT be good for him, even if it saves money for you. I researched this on the Net one time, and don&#039;t remember the details so you&#039;ll have to check for yourself, but an exclusively dry food diet is not good for cats, esp. males. I also don&#039;t advocate spending a lot on pet food, and sometimes make it myself. More work, but cheaper.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill,</p>
<p>Actually, if you have a male cat, plain old dry kibble may NOT be good for him, even if it saves money for you. I researched this on the Net one time, and don&#8217;t remember the details so you&#8217;ll have to check for yourself, but an exclusively dry food diet is not good for cats, esp. males. I also don&#8217;t advocate spending a lot on pet food, and sometimes make it myself. More work, but cheaper.</p>
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		<title>By: Ted Valentine</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/06/24/pets-and-money/#comment-39526</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted Valentine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 17:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t like the analogy between pet adoption and human adoption. It is not the same thing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t like the analogy between pet adoption and human adoption. It is not the same thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/06/24/pets-and-money/#comment-39491</link>
		<dc:creator>Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 15:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Everyone keeps going round and round on this one so I must put in my two cents worth. I have a dog that is my baby. I don&#039;t have children by choice, and she is the lucky recipient of whatever maternal extinct I may have. However, I know she is not a person and that pets are not the same as children. I think anyone who thinks that, be they parents or not, is wrong (my opinion). 
There is hardly a situation I can think of that would require me to find a new home for her. However a dire financial crisis, illness, or death can happen to anyone, making it very possible that a beloved pet would need to be rehomed. 
This is not the point of contention with me. As others have said, Trent&#039;s original post suggested rehoming your pet as a way to &quot;trim the fat&quot;, like cancelling your cable or going to the library instead of buying books. That is very different than a life altering situation and I think everyone knows that, even Trent.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone keeps going round and round on this one so I must put in my two cents worth. I have a dog that is my baby. I don&#8217;t have children by choice, and she is the lucky recipient of whatever maternal extinct I may have. However, I know she is not a person and that pets are not the same as children. I think anyone who thinks that, be they parents or not, is wrong (my opinion).<br />
There is hardly a situation I can think of that would require me to find a new home for her. However a dire financial crisis, illness, or death can happen to anyone, making it very possible that a beloved pet would need to be rehomed.<br />
This is not the point of contention with me. As others have said, Trent&#8217;s original post suggested rehoming your pet as a way to &#8220;trim the fat&#8221;, like cancelling your cable or going to the library instead of buying books. That is very different than a life altering situation and I think everyone knows that, even Trent.</p>
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		<title>By: Mitch</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/06/24/pets-and-money/#comment-39448</link>
		<dc:creator>Mitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 14:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If nothing else, this should remind all of us not to give pets as gifts unless we are 130% sure the pet is wanted and can be cared for.  I am thinking of my sister, whose friend gave her a puppy for Christmas.  Apparently the little girl down the street pays more attention to the dog than my sister does, although the dog is being fed, walked daily, etc.  It&#039;s not that my sister means to neglect the dog; it&#039;s that she&#039;s not that interested.

I agree that pets are a commitment, but still believe at some point it is more responsible to find another place for them.  And it&#039;s an elitist red herring to say that you would never do the same with your children: people who are not as solidly middle class, who are visited by crisis that plunges them into circumstances more dire than we are discussing here are, indeed, forced to put their children into foster care or the homes of relatives to be able to feed them and send them to school.  It&#039;s more of a question of &lt;em&gt;at what point&lt;/em&gt; do you split up your household (children, pets, spouses--many shelters separate men from women and children).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If nothing else, this should remind all of us not to give pets as gifts unless we are 130% sure the pet is wanted and can be cared for.  I am thinking of my sister, whose friend gave her a puppy for Christmas.  Apparently the little girl down the street pays more attention to the dog than my sister does, although the dog is being fed, walked daily, etc.  It&#8217;s not that my sister means to neglect the dog; it&#8217;s that she&#8217;s not that interested.</p>
<p>I agree that pets are a commitment, but still believe at some point it is more responsible to find another place for them.  And it&#8217;s an elitist red herring to say that you would never do the same with your children: people who are not as solidly middle class, who are visited by crisis that plunges them into circumstances more dire than we are discussing here are, indeed, forced to put their children into foster care or the homes of relatives to be able to feed them and send them to school.  It&#8217;s more of a question of <em>at what point</em> do you split up your household (children, pets, spouses&#8211;many shelters separate men from women and children).</p>
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