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		<title>By: Michiko</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/06/25/a-personal-finance-lesson-from-the-gap/comment-page-1/#comment-39955</link>
		<dc:creator>Michiko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 16:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely agree with frugality being a state of mind rather than a set of practices. All of these tips on how to slash your costs are completely ineffective if the fundamental idea is not in place. 

Wandering in a local mall, I looked around at what I percieve to be poor quality clothing. And I asked myself, what would be the smarter thing to do; buy a lot of cheap clothing that will get wrecked after so many wears, or buying something a little more expensive but that will last me (almost)forever? 

I do think about my purchases, so it&#039;s not just about coupons and buying cheap meats. That to me is the most important part.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree with frugality being a state of mind rather than a set of practices. All of these tips on how to slash your costs are completely ineffective if the fundamental idea is not in place. </p>
<p>Wandering in a local mall, I looked around at what I percieve to be poor quality clothing. And I asked myself, what would be the smarter thing to do; buy a lot of cheap clothing that will get wrecked after so many wears, or buying something a little more expensive but that will last me (almost)forever? </p>
<p>I do think about my purchases, so it&#8217;s not just about coupons and buying cheap meats. That to me is the most important part.</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 01:18:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I work at Sears, I&#039;m a cashier. Recently my supervisor told me that she is supposed to &quot;cut&quot; our hours. She was told this by the store manager. Now, there are 5 cashier stations in the store, and they all have to have a cashier in them when the store is open, 9a.m. to 9p.m. But what they did was hire more people and give us shorter work hours. For instance, instead of working 8:30 to 4 or 5, I now work a lot of 8:30 to 1 shifts. My question, how does that cut hours or payroll? You are still having the same 5 stations covered during those 12 hours. Granted , some cashiers make a little less than others, but it is not a significant amount, the difference of a few cents. I told my supervisor that I prefer to work whole days, I can accomplish more of my frugal projects with a whole day off, but she said that is not how she was told to schedule. I do like my job, and I live close enough that the shorter shifts are not too much of a burden gas wise, but some of the people live 25-30 miles away. Just seems silly to me. Also, we give customers all the hangers they want. When I first started I asked why Sears does not recycle and was told that the cost of recycling was more than the cost of buying them new, so we &quot;recycle&quot; by giving them to the customers, rather than throwing them away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work at Sears, I&#8217;m a cashier. Recently my supervisor told me that she is supposed to &#8220;cut&#8221; our hours. She was told this by the store manager. Now, there are 5 cashier stations in the store, and they all have to have a cashier in them when the store is open, 9a.m. to 9p.m. But what they did was hire more people and give us shorter work hours. For instance, instead of working 8:30 to 4 or 5, I now work a lot of 8:30 to 1 shifts. My question, how does that cut hours or payroll? You are still having the same 5 stations covered during those 12 hours. Granted , some cashiers make a little less than others, but it is not a significant amount, the difference of a few cents. I told my supervisor that I prefer to work whole days, I can accomplish more of my frugal projects with a whole day off, but she said that is not how she was told to schedule. I do like my job, and I live close enough that the shorter shifts are not too much of a burden gas wise, but some of the people live 25-30 miles away. Just seems silly to me. Also, we give customers all the hangers they want. When I first started I asked why Sears does not recycle and was told that the cost of recycling was more than the cost of buying them new, so we &#8220;recycle&#8221; by giving them to the customers, rather than throwing them away.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Erikson</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/06/25/a-personal-finance-lesson-from-the-gap/comment-page-1/#comment-39452</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Erikson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 14:37:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You bring up an interesting point about keeping up appearances, concentrating on core values and the 800 pound gorilla on your budget. But it&#039;s the lack of frugality that causes the 800 pound gorillas - a trend I&#039;m especially noticing amongst younger people today. 

Outside of student debt for some, young people don&#039;t have the 800 pound gorillas to worry about (at least they don&#039;t start out that way).  They are throwing frugality out the door completely and are turning to consumption at an alarming rate.  Their need for instant gratification is translating into massive credit card debt, and hence their own personal 800 pound gorillas.  

So your comment about the mindset of frugality is alot more significant than you may think.  Because there&#039;s trouble in them there [debt] hills and younger peope just don&#039;t seem to see it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You bring up an interesting point about keeping up appearances, concentrating on core values and the 800 pound gorilla on your budget. But it&#8217;s the lack of frugality that causes the 800 pound gorillas &#8211; a trend I&#8217;m especially noticing amongst younger people today. </p>
<p>Outside of student debt for some, young people don&#8217;t have the 800 pound gorillas to worry about (at least they don&#8217;t start out that way).  They are throwing frugality out the door completely and are turning to consumption at an alarming rate.  Their need for instant gratification is translating into massive credit card debt, and hence their own personal 800 pound gorillas.  </p>
<p>So your comment about the mindset of frugality is alot more significant than you may think.  Because there&#8217;s trouble in them there [debt] hills and younger peope just don&#8217;t seem to see it.</p>
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		<title>By: laura k</title>
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		<dc:creator>laura k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 14:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Janette and Dave M - even better, run around and do your errands, then go back to the store and return the suit...full of wrinkles. That would be worth the extra gas to me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Janette and Dave M &#8211; even better, run around and do your errands, then go back to the store and return the suit&#8230;full of wrinkles. That would be worth the extra gas to me!</p>
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		<title>By: Kathryn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathryn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 13:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m interested in this question of &quot;nickel &amp; diming&quot; as a strategy for dealing with a tight budget. I really believe that frugality is a good mindset to get into, but how do you decide when pinching pennies really isn&#039;t going to be enough to save you?  When is it time to &quot;close 500 stores&quot; (make the big change) in order to concentrate on doing it right...rather than continue to work to slowly and steadily (tortoises winning the race?) to make it better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m interested in this question of &#8220;nickel &amp; diming&#8221; as a strategy for dealing with a tight budget. I really believe that frugality is a good mindset to get into, but how do you decide when pinching pennies really isn&#8217;t going to be enough to save you?  When is it time to &#8220;close 500 stores&#8221; (make the big change) in order to concentrate on doing it right&#8230;rather than continue to work to slowly and steadily (tortoises winning the race?) to make it better.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 12:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Janette - I would have loved to tell them &quot;Two hangers is going to cost you this entire sale,&quot; dropped everything and walked out. If the only language they understand is nickel-and-diming, then maybe management would get the message.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Janette &#8211; I would have loved to tell them &#8220;Two hangers is going to cost you this entire sale,&#8221; dropped everything and walked out. If the only language they understand is nickel-and-diming, then maybe management would get the message.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 05:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Few things come to mind, not in any real order..

1.  On the GAP closing 200-500 stores and redeploying their staff:  The GAP isn&#039;t the US Army.  If I&#039;m a GAP employee and management tells me that they&#039;re closing my store and the nearest one is 50 miles away, I&#039;m going to probably take a job at the pretzel peddler rather than make the 50 mile commute just to maintain my $9 an hour.

2.  While I agree that nickel and diming is not always the answer, it&#039;s very easy to &quot;armchair CEO&quot; it and say &quot;Based on my 20 minutes I spent at the GAP this month, they should close 500 stores and not 50!&quot;  Wow.  Let&#039;s not forget that Gap, Banana Republic, Old Navy (and Piperlime) are all part of the same company and just because their middle of the road clothing store isn&#039;t getting it done in Seth&#039;s mind doesn&#039;t mean Gap&#039;s executive management is clueless.

3.  On the other hand, I can&#039;t remember the last time I bought clothes at Gap.  Not because the service was bad, just because I didn&#039;t care for the selection.  There is quite a bit of overlap in the products and I prefer their dressier clothes from Banana Republic and more casual clothes from Old Navy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Few things come to mind, not in any real order..</p>
<p>1.  On the GAP closing 200-500 stores and redeploying their staff:  The GAP isn&#8217;t the US Army.  If I&#8217;m a GAP employee and management tells me that they&#8217;re closing my store and the nearest one is 50 miles away, I&#8217;m going to probably take a job at the pretzel peddler rather than make the 50 mile commute just to maintain my $9 an hour.</p>
<p>2.  While I agree that nickel and diming is not always the answer, it&#8217;s very easy to &#8220;armchair CEO&#8221; it and say &#8220;Based on my 20 minutes I spent at the GAP this month, they should close 500 stores and not 50!&#8221;  Wow.  Let&#8217;s not forget that Gap, Banana Republic, Old Navy (and Piperlime) are all part of the same company and just because their middle of the road clothing store isn&#8217;t getting it done in Seth&#8217;s mind doesn&#8217;t mean Gap&#8217;s executive management is clueless.</p>
<p>3.  On the other hand, I can&#8217;t remember the last time I bought clothes at Gap.  Not because the service was bad, just because I didn&#8217;t care for the selection.  There is quite a bit of overlap in the products and I prefer their dressier clothes from Banana Republic and more casual clothes from Old Navy.</p>
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		<title>By: Janette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 01:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too had an unbelievable experience at the Gap recently.  I was in the checkout purchasing a suit, and as the sales clerk was removing the suit from its hangers, I asked if she would just leave it on the hangers.  I had some more errands to run after leaving the Gap, and didn&#039;t want the suit (which was linen) thrown in a bag to wrinkle.  The sales clerk said that they weren&#039;t supposed to allow customers to keep hangers.  I explained the situation - that I had more errands to run and  didn&#039;t want the linen to get wrinkles.  I would only need two hangers (its not like I was asking for a box of hangers), and the other items I was purchasing could go in a bag.  She refused again, and finally a Gap manager came up to assess the situation.  She too refused to let me leave with the 2 plastic hangers.  I could not believe it.  The suit was such a good deal that I did end up purchasing it, and HAD TO DRYCLEAN it before wearing it due to the wrinkles it got for laying in the bag for the remainder of my errands.  Unbelievable!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too had an unbelievable experience at the Gap recently.  I was in the checkout purchasing a suit, and as the sales clerk was removing the suit from its hangers, I asked if she would just leave it on the hangers.  I had some more errands to run after leaving the Gap, and didn&#8217;t want the suit (which was linen) thrown in a bag to wrinkle.  The sales clerk said that they weren&#8217;t supposed to allow customers to keep hangers.  I explained the situation &#8211; that I had more errands to run and  didn&#8217;t want the linen to get wrinkles.  I would only need two hangers (its not like I was asking for a box of hangers), and the other items I was purchasing could go in a bag.  She refused again, and finally a Gap manager came up to assess the situation.  She too refused to let me leave with the 2 plastic hangers.  I could not believe it.  The suit was such a good deal that I did end up purchasing it, and HAD TO DRYCLEAN it before wearing it due to the wrinkles it got for laying in the bag for the remainder of my errands.  Unbelievable!</p>
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		<title>By: C. Duncan</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/06/25/a-personal-finance-lesson-from-the-gap/comment-page-1/#comment-39251</link>
		<dc:creator>C. Duncan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 00:33:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A friend recommended me to your site because I have just heard about Dave Ramsey.  Okay.  Okay.  Don&#039;t point at the dim-witted guy who is just waking up to the financial future of my life.  Hey!  I&#039;m here.  The article seems to be an homage to &quot;Dave&quot;.  

I completely like your site.  It is extremely informative and I intend to go through it further.  I&#039;ve referred five more people to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A friend recommended me to your site because I have just heard about Dave Ramsey.  Okay.  Okay.  Don&#8217;t point at the dim-witted guy who is just waking up to the financial future of my life.  Hey!  I&#8217;m here.  The article seems to be an homage to &#8220;Dave&#8221;.  </p>
<p>I completely like your site.  It is extremely informative and I intend to go through it further.  I&#8217;ve referred five more people to it.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2007 23:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Almost every major retail chain subscribes to the awful business practice of cutting staff and running on a skeleton crew. None of them have realized yet that having more staff will in turn increase sales and thus improve profits. 

Years ago I worked for  Joann Fabrics &amp; Crafts. We were only given enough payroll hours to have two people working in the store at any given time. Those two people were expected to unload and put away 50+ cases of inventory weekly, perform customer service and sales duties, clean the store, run the cash registers, and keep an eye on both store entrances. The district only gave us enough hours to have people working during the times the store was open. So no working before or after business hours. Needless to say, that store is now out of business along with other Joann stores.

Home Depot has been lambasted lately also about their staff reductions. But they kept raising the pay for the CEO while their stock prices kept dropping.

I know that payroll costs are a large part of doing business. But in a retail environment, your business simply will not prosper unless you provide good customer service with live human employees. Maybe GAP will be able to turn their business around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Almost every major retail chain subscribes to the awful business practice of cutting staff and running on a skeleton crew. None of them have realized yet that having more staff will in turn increase sales and thus improve profits. </p>
<p>Years ago I worked for  Joann Fabrics &amp; Crafts. We were only given enough payroll hours to have two people working in the store at any given time. Those two people were expected to unload and put away 50+ cases of inventory weekly, perform customer service and sales duties, clean the store, run the cash registers, and keep an eye on both store entrances. The district only gave us enough hours to have people working during the times the store was open. So no working before or after business hours. Needless to say, that store is now out of business along with other Joann stores.</p>
<p>Home Depot has been lambasted lately also about their staff reductions. But they kept raising the pay for the CEO while their stock prices kept dropping.</p>
<p>I know that payroll costs are a large part of doing business. But in a retail environment, your business simply will not prosper unless you provide good customer service with live human employees. Maybe GAP will be able to turn their business around.</p>
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		<title>By: bret</title>
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		<dc:creator>bret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2007 21:52:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After reading this post, I couldn&#039;t help bu think of this quote:

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

-Albert Einstein</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading this post, I couldn&#8217;t help bu think of this quote:</p>
<p>Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.</p>
<p>-Albert Einstein</p>
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