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	<title>Comments on: A Prenatal College Fund?</title>
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		<title>By: Best education</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/07/02/a-prenatal-college-fund/comment-page-1/#comment-45494</link>
		<dc:creator>Best education</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 23:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that investing in education in whatever shape or form is an absolute must, the initial sacrifice made will pay off in many ways some which you may not even have thought about long into adult life. I for one have done everything to guarantee that my children have the best possible start in life and the very best possible education from birth onwards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that investing in education in whatever shape or form is an absolute must, the initial sacrifice made will pay off in many ways some which you may not even have thought about long into adult life. I for one have done everything to guarantee that my children have the best possible start in life and the very best possible education from birth onwards.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/07/02/a-prenatal-college-fund/comment-page-1/#comment-43976</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 22:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Pension Protection Act of 2006 made permanent the changes to Section 529 of the federal tax code made by the 2001 Economic Growth and Tax Relief Reconciliation Act, including investors&#039; ability to withdraw earnings from 529 plans, free of federal taxes, for qualified college expenses. Until passage of the law, federal tax breaks on 529 plan earnings were set to expire at the end of 2010.  Now there&#039;s no &quot;closing loophole&quot; to worry about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Pension Protection Act of 2006 made permanent the changes to Section 529 of the federal tax code made by the 2001 Economic Growth and Tax Relief Reconciliation Act, including investors&#8217; ability to withdraw earnings from 529 plans, free of federal taxes, for qualified college expenses. Until passage of the law, federal tax breaks on 529 plan earnings were set to expire at the end of 2010.  Now there&#8217;s no &#8220;closing loophole&#8221; to worry about.</p>
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		<title>By: Livingalmostlarge</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/07/02/a-prenatal-college-fund/comment-page-1/#comment-43214</link>
		<dc:creator>Livingalmostlarge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 19:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s wrong with saving early for college? It&#039;s not a lot and I don&#039;t have a ton else to save for.  I could save for a fancy new car, but DH won&#039;t do it.  I do all our retirement, an other savings options.  So what&#039;s left?  Well we could be stashing away more money but it seems sort of nice to think about having a college fund already started for your little one before you even start trying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s wrong with saving early for college? It&#8217;s not a lot and I don&#8217;t have a ton else to save for.  I could save for a fancy new car, but DH won&#8217;t do it.  I do all our retirement, an other savings options.  So what&#8217;s left?  Well we could be stashing away more money but it seems sort of nice to think about having a college fund already started for your little one before you even start trying.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/07/02/a-prenatal-college-fund/comment-page-1/#comment-42717</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 15:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>529&#039;s are college savings plans with tax sheltered/free growth AND they can be either pre-paid tuition plans OR investment plans.

When first enacted, there was concern that these plans would count against financial aid, but clarification was made to ensure that they currently don&#039;t.

At this point, think of 529&#039;s like Roth IRAs, they are a wonderful tool due to the tax advantages.  Just because I know Congress may eventually want to change/decrease the tax advantages of both plans, it doesn&#039;t stop me from using either of them.  In fact, the opposite is true.  Better to get into them now before they change them and hope there are enough people using these vehicles to either prompt Congress to not take any action or grandfather existing plans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>529&#8217;s are college savings plans with tax sheltered/free growth AND they can be either pre-paid tuition plans OR investment plans.</p>
<p>When first enacted, there was concern that these plans would count against financial aid, but clarification was made to ensure that they currently don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>At this point, think of 529&#8217;s like Roth IRAs, they are a wonderful tool due to the tax advantages.  Just because I know Congress may eventually want to change/decrease the tax advantages of both plans, it doesn&#8217;t stop me from using either of them.  In fact, the opposite is true.  Better to get into them now before they change them and hope there are enough people using these vehicles to either prompt Congress to not take any action or grandfather existing plans.</p>
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		<title>By: MossySF</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/07/02/a-prenatal-college-fund/comment-page-1/#comment-42569</link>
		<dc:creator>MossySF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 07:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So you don&#039;t think Congress doesn&#039;t know the lack of difference between parent and children 529s. Gimme a break. Guarantee you if they hit one, they&#039;ll hit the other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So you don&#8217;t think Congress doesn&#8217;t know the lack of difference between parent and children 529s. Gimme a break. Guarantee you if they hit one, they&#8217;ll hit the other.</p>
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		<title>By: Mardee</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/07/02/a-prenatal-college-fund/comment-page-1/#comment-42533</link>
		<dc:creator>Mardee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 04:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;For the moment (until Congress fixes this oversight), custodial 529s are MORE sheltered for the purpose of getting financial aid.&quot;

@Mossy: The key words there are &quot;for the moment.&quot; Every financial analyst out there is sure that Congress is going to change this so that the shelter goes away.  It might help a student in college for the next year or so, but the current loophole is not going to help a toddler.

I still think that Trent should think seriously about this.  At this time, parents only need to contribute 5.6% to college - students, on the other hand, must contribute 20% (and it used to be 35%). If it were my child, and it was time for her to go to college, I would hope that most of the assets were in my name so my child doesn&#039;t have to wipe out her savings to go to college.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;For the moment (until Congress fixes this oversight), custodial 529s are MORE sheltered for the purpose of getting financial aid.&#8221;</p>
<p>@Mossy: The key words there are &#8220;for the moment.&#8221; Every financial analyst out there is sure that Congress is going to change this so that the shelter goes away.  It might help a student in college for the next year or so, but the current loophole is not going to help a toddler.</p>
<p>I still think that Trent should think seriously about this.  At this time, parents only need to contribute 5.6% to college &#8211; students, on the other hand, must contribute 20% (and it used to be 35%). If it were my child, and it was time for her to go to college, I would hope that most of the assets were in my name so my child doesn&#8217;t have to wipe out her savings to go to college.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/07/02/a-prenatal-college-fund/comment-page-1/#comment-42507</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 01:58:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nothing prevents a school from going beyond the standard federal form and asking about parent-owned (custodal or not) or grandparent-owned custodial accounts (e.g 529 plans)

Some schools are even looking at the amount of equity available in the parents&#039; home, and factor that into the financial aid equation.

Even if the parents NEVER intended to take a equity loan to pay for their kids&#039; college expenses!

All the more reason for parents to max out their 401K and IRA accounts (Roth or not) - those are about the only assets a school can&#039;t consider in making the financial aid calculation.

&gt;custodial 529s are not counted as either parental or child assets!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing prevents a school from going beyond the standard federal form and asking about parent-owned (custodal or not) or grandparent-owned custodial accounts (e.g 529 plans)</p>
<p>Some schools are even looking at the amount of equity available in the parents&#8217; home, and factor that into the financial aid equation.</p>
<p>Even if the parents NEVER intended to take a equity loan to pay for their kids&#8217; college expenses!</p>
<p>All the more reason for parents to max out their 401K and IRA accounts (Roth or not) &#8211; those are about the only assets a school can&#8217;t consider in making the financial aid calculation.</p>
<p>&gt;custodial 529s are not counted as either parental or child assets!</p>
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		<title>By: !wanda</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/07/02/a-prenatal-college-fund/comment-page-1/#comment-42489</link>
		<dc:creator>!wanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 01:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;A 529 is the best option because you can lock in today’s tuition cost.&quot;  

529s don&#039;t do that.  The plans that do force you to go to your state school.  My parents have the opposite bias (insisted I go to a private school for college), but the state school may not be the best one for your kid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;A 529 is the best option because you can lock in today’s tuition cost.&#8221;  </p>
<p>529s don&#8217;t do that.  The plans that do force you to go to your state school.  My parents have the opposite bias (insisted I go to a private school for college), but the state school may not be the best one for your kid.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristi</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/07/02/a-prenatal-college-fund/comment-page-1/#comment-42305</link>
		<dc:creator>Kristi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 17:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A 529 is the best option because you can lock in today&#039;s tuition cost. (At least I think this is the kind that does that... if not, then it&#039;s worth researching which one does).  It&#039;s kind of like the prepaid funeral plans. People think they&#039;re silly, but they do save lots of money.  Say if you were to die today, your funeral will cost $6,000.  You pick out the casket, headstone, make music arrangements - everything.  That $6,000 price is locked in.  Actually, you have ALREADY paid for your funeral.  The company takes your money, invests it and then when you actually die, they pay for it even if it costs $12,000 by the time you die.  Locking in today&#039;s prices for tomorrow is a great thing whether it&#039;s for a funeral or for tuition or something else.  The costs are not going to go down.  By the way, I don&#039;t mean to seem sinister or anything. I know some people don&#039;t like to think about their death, but to me a prepaid funeral plan makes just as much sense as making a will.  You&#039;re securing your family&#039;s future.  No one has to plan your funeral while grieving at the same time and no one has a cent to pay for the funeral either.  They can then use your life insurance policy for something else. 

Trent, what do you think of prepaid funeral plans?  Do you have one?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A 529 is the best option because you can lock in today&#8217;s tuition cost. (At least I think this is the kind that does that&#8230; if not, then it&#8217;s worth researching which one does).  It&#8217;s kind of like the prepaid funeral plans. People think they&#8217;re silly, but they do save lots of money.  Say if you were to die today, your funeral will cost $6,000.  You pick out the casket, headstone, make music arrangements &#8211; everything.  That $6,000 price is locked in.  Actually, you have ALREADY paid for your funeral.  The company takes your money, invests it and then when you actually die, they pay for it even if it costs $12,000 by the time you die.  Locking in today&#8217;s prices for tomorrow is a great thing whether it&#8217;s for a funeral or for tuition or something else.  The costs are not going to go down.  By the way, I don&#8217;t mean to seem sinister or anything. I know some people don&#8217;t like to think about their death, but to me a prepaid funeral plan makes just as much sense as making a will.  You&#8217;re securing your family&#8217;s future.  No one has to plan your funeral while grieving at the same time and no one has a cent to pay for the funeral either.  They can then use your life insurance policy for something else. </p>
<p>Trent, what do you think of prepaid funeral plans?  Do you have one?</p>
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		<title>By: MossySF</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/07/02/a-prenatal-college-fund/comment-page-1/#comment-42291</link>
		<dc:creator>MossySF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 17:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s interesting how people continually post that custodial 529s will impact financial aid when the link I posted above (will repost again) clearly state is totally untrue.

http://www.savingforcollege.com/intro_to_529s/index.php?general_faq_id=4

In fact, if you actually read the article, you will find that Congress made a mistake and custodial 529s are not counted as either parental or child assets! For the moment (until Congress fixes this oversight), custodial 529s are MORE sheltered for the purpose of getting financial aid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s interesting how people continually post that custodial 529s will impact financial aid when the link I posted above (will repost again) clearly state is totally untrue.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.savingforcollege.com/intro_to_529s/index.php?general_faq_id=4" rel="nofollow">http://www.savingforcollege.com/intro_to_529s/index.php?general_faq_id=4</a></p>
<p>In fact, if you actually read the article, you will find that Congress made a mistake and custodial 529s are not counted as either parental or child assets! For the moment (until Congress fixes this oversight), custodial 529s are MORE sheltered for the purpose of getting financial aid.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/07/02/a-prenatal-college-fund/comment-page-1/#comment-42281</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yet another excellent post.  I agree with some of the others as to where you are going to keep the money.  The tax advantages of the 529&#039;s are enormous and even after the penalities, they would come out ahead if they chose not to use it for college.  By NOT sheltering that money, you will severely restrict their financial aid eligibility(and their is NOTHING wrong with applying for financial aid).  The 529&#039;s are one way the government has tried to correct the imbalance of penalizing parents who do save for their children&#039;s college education, as opposed to those that don&#039;t.

If you are adamant about giving them some money, you could always put part of it in the custodial account(say the gifts) and the rest in the 529.  That way they enjoy both the tax advantage and still get some money.

Kudos to you for your planning ahead and posting such thought provoking points.  Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yet another excellent post.  I agree with some of the others as to where you are going to keep the money.  The tax advantages of the 529&#8217;s are enormous and even after the penalities, they would come out ahead if they chose not to use it for college.  By NOT sheltering that money, you will severely restrict their financial aid eligibility(and their is NOTHING wrong with applying for financial aid).  The 529&#8217;s are one way the government has tried to correct the imbalance of penalizing parents who do save for their children&#8217;s college education, as opposed to those that don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>If you are adamant about giving them some money, you could always put part of it in the custodial account(say the gifts) and the rest in the 529.  That way they enjoy both the tax advantage and still get some money.</p>
<p>Kudos to you for your planning ahead and posting such thought provoking points.  Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: MVP</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/07/02/a-prenatal-college-fund/comment-page-1/#comment-42275</link>
		<dc:creator>MVP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kim, just to clarify, I addressed Derek, in particular, because he suggested putting the money in the child&#039;s GRANDPARENTS&#039; names, not the parents&#039;. That sounds pretty deceptive to me. Sarah, you&#039;re right, and I admit I&#039;m a little naive in this area - I was fortunate to get a top-notch education (graduated in 2000) at a highly regarded state school on good scholarships, only needing a few thousand in student loans for equipment necessary for my degree. I just want to make the point that many of us want to start saving early so our children don&#039;t need to take out student loans. Good comments, MK and Rick. Also, my husband and I don&#039;t plan to share with our children the amount we&#039;ll have saved for their education. It won&#039;t technically be their money until they need it for purposes we think are good for their futures. And, we want them to choose a school and education plan wisely, not on the basis of &quot;I have $x, I think I&#039;ll go to an out-of-state Ivy League school because I can afford it.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kim, just to clarify, I addressed Derek, in particular, because he suggested putting the money in the child&#8217;s GRANDPARENTS&#8217; names, not the parents&#8217;. That sounds pretty deceptive to me. Sarah, you&#8217;re right, and I admit I&#8217;m a little naive in this area &#8211; I was fortunate to get a top-notch education (graduated in 2000) at a highly regarded state school on good scholarships, only needing a few thousand in student loans for equipment necessary for my degree. I just want to make the point that many of us want to start saving early so our children don&#8217;t need to take out student loans. Good comments, MK and Rick. Also, my husband and I don&#8217;t plan to share with our children the amount we&#8217;ll have saved for their education. It won&#8217;t technically be their money until they need it for purposes we think are good for their futures. And, we want them to choose a school and education plan wisely, not on the basis of &#8220;I have $x, I think I&#8217;ll go to an out-of-state Ivy League school because I can afford it.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Dr J</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/07/02/a-prenatal-college-fund/comment-page-1/#comment-42245</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 15:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent topic.  I&#039;m expecting my first son in a little over 4 weeks now and I&#039;ve been wondering a good way to start saving now for his future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent topic.  I&#8217;m expecting my first son in a little over 4 weeks now and I&#8217;ve been wondering a good way to start saving now for his future.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/07/02/a-prenatal-college-fund/comment-page-1/#comment-42236</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 14:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>529s can only be used *tax-free* for education. You can withdraw from them with a 10% penalty for other purposes. In that respect, 529s are like an IRA, but for education, rather than retirement.

Trent, I side with those arguing you should keep the money in your name, rather than the kids. I don&#039;t remember the exact percentages, but assets in the child&#039;s name count much more towards the &quot;Expected Family Contribution&quot; than assets in the parent&#039;s name. I would call up the financial aid advisor at your local university and ask for advice, since this one little step *could* end up costing your kid thousands in tuition money he could otherwise get financial aid for. You could still give it to your kid to start a business if that&#039;s his plan instead. 

I can say this: your kids are lucky you&#039;re willing to pay for their college education. Mine didn&#039;t. I had to pay it all myself. In some ways, though, I feel I turned out better. Since it was *my* money, I felt inclined to put it to the best use and study hard and learn, rather than just partying away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>529s can only be used *tax-free* for education. You can withdraw from them with a 10% penalty for other purposes. In that respect, 529s are like an IRA, but for education, rather than retirement.</p>
<p>Trent, I side with those arguing you should keep the money in your name, rather than the kids. I don&#8217;t remember the exact percentages, but assets in the child&#8217;s name count much more towards the &#8220;Expected Family Contribution&#8221; than assets in the parent&#8217;s name. I would call up the financial aid advisor at your local university and ask for advice, since this one little step *could* end up costing your kid thousands in tuition money he could otherwise get financial aid for. You could still give it to your kid to start a business if that&#8217;s his plan instead. </p>
<p>I can say this: your kids are lucky you&#8217;re willing to pay for their college education. Mine didn&#8217;t. I had to pay it all myself. In some ways, though, I feel I turned out better. Since it was *my* money, I felt inclined to put it to the best use and study hard and learn, rather than just partying away.</p>
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		<title>By: MK</title>
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		<dc:creator>MK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 13:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My parents required that we pay for half of college - we knew this in advance.  Guess what - we both made good grades and got scholarships - because we didn&#039;t want to go into debt (they also made us take our FHA youth loans, so we both hate debt - another story).  My parents paid for books and some incidentals (gas to come home) - I paid for everything else.  I saved and worked and when I went to graduate school, I came out with only $8500 in debt from a well-regarded private school.  My husband,whose parents paid for college, bought him a townhouse to live in and financed his living expenses in college, proceeded to rack up $35K for the same program.  I think my money management is a DIRECT result of my parents making it clear that college was something to be earned and appreciated - not something given to me.  I don&#039;t want to pay for my kids to go to college for the same reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My parents required that we pay for half of college &#8211; we knew this in advance.  Guess what &#8211; we both made good grades and got scholarships &#8211; because we didn&#8217;t want to go into debt (they also made us take our FHA youth loans, so we both hate debt &#8211; another story).  My parents paid for books and some incidentals (gas to come home) &#8211; I paid for everything else.  I saved and worked and when I went to graduate school, I came out with only $8500 in debt from a well-regarded private school.  My husband,whose parents paid for college, bought him a townhouse to live in and financed his living expenses in college, proceeded to rack up $35K for the same program.  I think my money management is a DIRECT result of my parents making it clear that college was something to be earned and appreciated &#8211; not something given to me.  I don&#8217;t want to pay for my kids to go to college for the same reason.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 13:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I understand 529 plans correctly, they can only ever be used for education.  This means that you really shouldn&#039;t view them as mutual funds for your kids.  Your kids won&#039;t be able to use the money to fund a business or for any other endeavor than education.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I understand 529 plans correctly, they can only ever be used for education.  This means that you really shouldn&#8217;t view them as mutual funds for your kids.  Your kids won&#8217;t be able to use the money to fund a business or for any other endeavor than education.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 12:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice work getting started early on your child&#039;s future. I&#039;m sure it won&#039;t be an issue for your kids, they will have a sound financial education, but just remember that kids who have too much handed to them never learn to properly manage their money. Paying your own way through college (partially or wholely) can really make someone learn about proper financial responsibilities.

Then again, my parents made me pay my own way, and it didn&#039;t do me much good. I&#039;m still paying for it now!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice work getting started early on your child&#8217;s future. I&#8217;m sure it won&#8217;t be an issue for your kids, they will have a sound financial education, but just remember that kids who have too much handed to them never learn to properly manage their money. Paying your own way through college (partially or wholely) can really make someone learn about proper financial responsibilities.</p>
<p>Then again, my parents made me pay my own way, and it didn&#8217;t do me much good. I&#8217;m still paying for it now!</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 12:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MVP-- regarding the comment about why should financial aid matter that you asked Derek, Mardee and Wanda (though I&#039;m not any of them, but I graduated with my BA in &#039;05 and I&#039;m now in grad school): college costs right now are well over $40,000 or even $60,000 for four years (ten thousand for each year will cover tuition at state schools, let alone other costs and/or private institutions).  I&#039;m sure they&#039;ll cost much more in 2025.  Usually, students are encouraged to apply for financial aid even if they don&#039;t need it, in case (a) they do end up needing it when they thought they wouldn&#039;t, which is what happened to me, or (b) it&#039;s the only way to be eligible for scholarships and grants, even merit-based ones.

If you throw unfunded grad school in there (which is the case in some fields where there just isn&#039;t the money, i.e. vet school), you&#039;re looking at possibly $100,000 in school bills for grad school alone.  Is it worth it?  I dunno, I&#039;m not in vet school:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MVP&#8211; regarding the comment about why should financial aid matter that you asked Derek, Mardee and Wanda (though I&#8217;m not any of them, but I graduated with my BA in &#8216;05 and I&#8217;m now in grad school): college costs right now are well over $40,000 or even $60,000 for four years (ten thousand for each year will cover tuition at state schools, let alone other costs and/or private institutions).  I&#8217;m sure they&#8217;ll cost much more in 2025.  Usually, students are encouraged to apply for financial aid even if they don&#8217;t need it, in case (a) they do end up needing it when they thought they wouldn&#8217;t, which is what happened to me, or (b) it&#8217;s the only way to be eligible for scholarships and grants, even merit-based ones.</p>
<p>If you throw unfunded grad school in there (which is the case in some fields where there just isn&#8217;t the money, i.e. vet school), you&#8217;re looking at possibly $100,000 in school bills for grad school alone.  Is it worth it?  I dunno, I&#8217;m not in vet school:)</p>
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		<title>By: Gayle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gayle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 12:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trent, if the age of majority is 18, as it is in my state, can you delay the transfer of control until they are 21?  Best check that out.  The difference in maturity between 18 and 21 is quite a bit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trent, if the age of majority is 18, as it is in my state, can you delay the transfer of control until they are 21?  Best check that out.  The difference in maturity between 18 and 21 is quite a bit.</p>
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		<title>By: kim</title>
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		<dc:creator>kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 11:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t see how Derek&#039;s suggestion is immoral or fraud.  A parent is saving a parent&#039;s money.  Dereck is simply stating that keeping it in the parent&#039;s name instead of gifting it earlier to the child makes more sense from a financial aid stand point.  When determining financial aid, the government figures that a child can contribute a far greater percentage of his or her assets per year than a parent can.  Therefore, keeping Trent&#039;s money in Trent&#039;s name makes far more sense if they will be in a position to receive financial aid.  Nothing illegal or immoral there.

Trent, I agree with MVP about giving full access to a large sum of money to a 21 year old.  I know what I would have done with that kind of money at that age.  Remember your life before financial armageddeon.  Kids have to make mistakes.  I did, you did, anyone on a good financial path could probably describe their own learning mistakes.  Do you really want to fuel their armageddeon?  I know you will raise them right, but kids rebel.  There is an age where many kids think their parents have the world all wrong.  Are you willing to risk your child blowing the money at 21 on a sports car and then the next year deciding that and education makes sense after all. Would you be willing to foot the bill after they blew the savings?  Would you be resentful?  Would it cause and uncomfortable rift between you and your child?  I know you cited examples such as starting a business.  However, if you don&#039;t put restrictions on the money, are you OK with the very real possibility that a child with very little real world experience could blow years of your savings on something trivial?

Don&#039;t get me wrong, I love everything else about your plan.  Just not the unrestricted access at 21.  At least wait until your children are much, much older before making such a decision!  If you are going to do it at least make it 30.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t see how Derek&#8217;s suggestion is immoral or fraud.  A parent is saving a parent&#8217;s money.  Dereck is simply stating that keeping it in the parent&#8217;s name instead of gifting it earlier to the child makes more sense from a financial aid stand point.  When determining financial aid, the government figures that a child can contribute a far greater percentage of his or her assets per year than a parent can.  Therefore, keeping Trent&#8217;s money in Trent&#8217;s name makes far more sense if they will be in a position to receive financial aid.  Nothing illegal or immoral there.</p>
<p>Trent, I agree with MVP about giving full access to a large sum of money to a 21 year old.  I know what I would have done with that kind of money at that age.  Remember your life before financial armageddeon.  Kids have to make mistakes.  I did, you did, anyone on a good financial path could probably describe their own learning mistakes.  Do you really want to fuel their armageddeon?  I know you will raise them right, but kids rebel.  There is an age where many kids think their parents have the world all wrong.  Are you willing to risk your child blowing the money at 21 on a sports car and then the next year deciding that and education makes sense after all. Would you be willing to foot the bill after they blew the savings?  Would you be resentful?  Would it cause and uncomfortable rift between you and your child?  I know you cited examples such as starting a business.  However, if you don&#8217;t put restrictions on the money, are you OK with the very real possibility that a child with very little real world experience could blow years of your savings on something trivial?</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I love everything else about your plan.  Just not the unrestricted access at 21.  At least wait until your children are much, much older before making such a decision!  If you are going to do it at least make it 30.</p>
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