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	<title>Comments on: Helping An Old Friend Manage His Estate In An Interesting Way</title>
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		<title>By: Juggling Frogs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Juggling Frogs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 17:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone is reacting to the specifics of the advice.  Here&#039;s what I take away from this post:

* The lived within his means for a lifetime, so his choices will outlive him.

* The man applied his intelligence to his life and made a plan.  Now he&#039;s doing the same for his legacy.  

* The approach that allowed him to accumulate wealth (seeking advice, following his heart instead of doing what&#039;s most commonly done, thoughtful planning) is facilitating the distribution of his assets.

* How wonderful it is to look back on ones life, find success, and have the means and vision to share it.  His generosity applies to both the wealth itself, and the wisdom of how it was accumulated, as evidenced by his not wanting to bestow a windfall on his descendants.

Trent, that this wise man sought your advice, and the suggestions and approach you gave him, are both testimony to your integrity and good sense.

May your friend live to 120 and only have joy from his children, grandchildren and their children.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone is reacting to the specifics of the advice.  Here&#8217;s what I take away from this post:</p>
<p>* The lived within his means for a lifetime, so his choices will outlive him.</p>
<p>* The man applied his intelligence to his life and made a plan.  Now he&#8217;s doing the same for his legacy.  </p>
<p>* The approach that allowed him to accumulate wealth (seeking advice, following his heart instead of doing what&#8217;s most commonly done, thoughtful planning) is facilitating the distribution of his assets.</p>
<p>* How wonderful it is to look back on ones life, find success, and have the means and vision to share it.  His generosity applies to both the wealth itself, and the wisdom of how it was accumulated, as evidenced by his not wanting to bestow a windfall on his descendants.</p>
<p>Trent, that this wise man sought your advice, and the suggestions and approach you gave him, are both testimony to your integrity and good sense.</p>
<p>May your friend live to 120 and only have joy from his children, grandchildren and their children.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob in Madrid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob in Madrid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 08:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My wife and I don&#039;t have children so we made our estate very simple. Every thing is to be divided equally amongst all our brothers and sisters. If they aren&#039;t living there portion goes in equal portions to their children. Plain and simple. But I also don&#039;t have to (currently) worry about estate taxes as we our wills will be probated in Canada and as we are currently non residents means we pay no capital gains tax. Canada doesn&#039;t have a estate tax as such but instead death triggers a deemed disposition and is taxed accordingly. 

I&#039;m impressed that he sought out advice as most people in his boat won&#039;t do that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My wife and I don&#8217;t have children so we made our estate very simple. Every thing is to be divided equally amongst all our brothers and sisters. If they aren&#8217;t living there portion goes in equal portions to their children. Plain and simple. But I also don&#8217;t have to (currently) worry about estate taxes as we our wills will be probated in Canada and as we are currently non residents means we pay no capital gains tax. Canada doesn&#8217;t have a estate tax as such but instead death triggers a deemed disposition and is taxed accordingly. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m impressed that he sought out advice as most people in his boat won&#8217;t do that.</p>
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		<title>By: Debbie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Debbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 18:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It sounds like you had an interesting talk were able to come up with some creative ideas that the man likes.  If you get to find out more, it would be nice to see an update based on extra advice the lawyer gives.

I have no kids and my sister has four.  I still think it&#039;s cool to split it up evenly like that.  And the man is tickled that some people who don&#039;t know him will get some of his money.  So that makes this a good system for him.

Of course this money will help some people and not help other people.  Because they are going to have free will on how to spend it.  But (at least for the adults) they can only blow one year&#039;s worth at a time.  Some of the people will mature a bit during those years and be helped in the later years even if they weren&#039;t helped in the earlier years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It sounds like you had an interesting talk were able to come up with some creative ideas that the man likes.  If you get to find out more, it would be nice to see an update based on extra advice the lawyer gives.</p>
<p>I have no kids and my sister has four.  I still think it&#8217;s cool to split it up evenly like that.  And the man is tickled that some people who don&#8217;t know him will get some of his money.  So that makes this a good system for him.</p>
<p>Of course this money will help some people and not help other people.  Because they are going to have free will on how to spend it.  But (at least for the adults) they can only blow one year&#8217;s worth at a time.  Some of the people will mature a bit during those years and be helped in the later years even if they weren&#8217;t helped in the earlier years.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 14:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see a problem with using Trent as a sounding board before meeting with an attorney.

I applaud the guy for giving it away while he&#039;s still alive - if he can structure it so that he can take advantage of the annual exemption then I think the heirs will get more than if the whole thing was distributed at death.

Another thing people don&#039;t consider about using a trust (even a run of the mill living trust) is the privacy it affords.

Probate is a very public process - anyone who wants to can know exactly who the beneficiaries are, and target them if they inherit a large estate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see a problem with using Trent as a sounding board before meeting with an attorney.</p>
<p>I applaud the guy for giving it away while he&#8217;s still alive &#8211; if he can structure it so that he can take advantage of the annual exemption then I think the heirs will get more than if the whole thing was distributed at death.</p>
<p>Another thing people don&#8217;t consider about using a trust (even a run of the mill living trust) is the privacy it affords.</p>
<p>Probate is a very public process &#8211; anyone who wants to can know exactly who the beneficiaries are, and target them if they inherit a large estate.</p>
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		<title>By: dong</title>
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		<dc:creator>dong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 01:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope everything works out great with this guy, and his kids and grandkids.  It&#039;s gonna be tricky, especially with grandkids if they&#039;re young and learn they&#039;ll be getting a distribution later in life.  It might be blessing for some and a curse for others.  Inheritance issues have a funny way of playing out sometimes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope everything works out great with this guy, and his kids and grandkids.  It&#8217;s gonna be tricky, especially with grandkids if they&#8217;re young and learn they&#8217;ll be getting a distribution later in life.  It might be blessing for some and a curse for others.  Inheritance issues have a funny way of playing out sometimes.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 17:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this money should only be distributed equally to currently living descendants. I would not have included a provision to give money to future generations who will never know this man except for his money. They will inadvertantly get a better life in general if their parents used it wisely to care for their future. But it is his money so he can do what he chooses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this money should only be distributed equally to currently living descendants. I would not have included a provision to give money to future generations who will never know this man except for his money. They will inadvertantly get a better life in general if their parents used it wisely to care for their future. But it is his money so he can do what he chooses.</p>
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		<title>By: Elaine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 17:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have enjoyed each and every one of your columns since I discovered it a month ago.  The only thing I was concerned about is the fact that most advice is for young couples or individuals less than 30 yrs of age.  I am so happy to see that you helped this gentleman with his concerns.  I am suggesting there needs to be more articles looking at individuals at 40 or 50 and how to accelerate their assets to prepare for retirement.  I didn&#039;t start saving until 20 yrs ago and at 50, I am a long ways from being where I want to be.  Please consider this request for a future article.  Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have enjoyed each and every one of your columns since I discovered it a month ago.  The only thing I was concerned about is the fact that most advice is for young couples or individuals less than 30 yrs of age.  I am so happy to see that you helped this gentleman with his concerns.  I am suggesting there needs to be more articles looking at individuals at 40 or 50 and how to accelerate their assets to prepare for retirement.  I didn&#8217;t start saving until 20 yrs ago and at 50, I am a long ways from being where I want to be.  Please consider this request for a future article.  Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: plonkee</title>
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		<dc:creator>plonkee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 12:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I quite like the idea that everyone gets an equal share - maybe if I ever accumulate a fantastic some of money and want to distribute it then I&#039;ll go this route. If you think everyone shouldn&#039;t get an equal share but the direct descendants only (and then in proportion) thats also a perfectly good solution and when you have your huge sum to distribute, you can do it that way :).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I quite like the idea that everyone gets an equal share &#8211; maybe if I ever accumulate a fantastic some of money and want to distribute it then I&#8217;ll go this route. If you think everyone shouldn&#8217;t get an equal share but the direct descendants only (and then in proportion) thats also a perfectly good solution and when you have your huge sum to distribute, you can do it that way :).</p>
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		<title>By: EdTheRed</title>
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		<dc:creator>EdTheRed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 04:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I may be wrong, but I think there are some misconceptions about the Federal estate tax.

First, estate tax rates (0% of the first three million dollars per married couple) currently top out at 45%, not 55%. As far as I now, those rates don&#039;t even start to apply until an estate goes over that three million-dollar exemption. Again, I may be mistaken...if you have an IRS publication that states otherwise please post the link.

Second, much of the wealth transferred at death has never been taxed. That&#039;s because capital gains on assets like houses, stocks and bonds are not taxed until the asset is sold. If you are lucky enough to inherit a house or stocks and bonds, the nice dead person that left it to you obviously didn&#039;t get a chance to sell it, so they never paid any capital gains tax on it. 

Again, I could be wrong, it happens all the time~!

Ed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I may be wrong, but I think there are some misconceptions about the Federal estate tax.</p>
<p>First, estate tax rates (0% of the first three million dollars per married couple) currently top out at 45%, not 55%. As far as I now, those rates don&#8217;t even start to apply until an estate goes over that three million-dollar exemption. Again, I may be mistaken&#8230;if you have an IRS publication that states otherwise please post the link.</p>
<p>Second, much of the wealth transferred at death has never been taxed. That&#8217;s because capital gains on assets like houses, stocks and bonds are not taxed until the asset is sold. If you are lucky enough to inherit a house or stocks and bonds, the nice dead person that left it to you obviously didn&#8217;t get a chance to sell it, so they never paid any capital gains tax on it. </p>
<p>Again, I could be wrong, it happens all the time~!</p>
<p>Ed</p>
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		<title>By: Livingalmostlarge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Livingalmostlarge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 03:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I agree with leaving it equally doled to the children and not all descendents.  It makes a difference in my family where I have no kids, my one brother has one and my other two sibs have 3 each.  So if everyone got an equal slice it&#039;s a bit unequal, especially with the likelyhood of my having kids in the future.

But to each his own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I agree with leaving it equally doled to the children and not all descendents.  It makes a difference in my family where I have no kids, my one brother has one and my other two sibs have 3 each.  So if everyone got an equal slice it&#8217;s a bit unequal, especially with the likelyhood of my having kids in the future.</p>
<p>But to each his own.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 02:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s great that this man had someone to turn to who had no personal interest in the outcome of his money. Impartial advice is hard to find, and I think you gave that to him (which lead to a great piece of mind for him!). Thank you for doing the right thing giving him some very good advice. He and his descendants will thank you. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s great that this man had someone to turn to who had no personal interest in the outcome of his money. Impartial advice is hard to find, and I think you gave that to him (which lead to a great piece of mind for him!). Thank you for doing the right thing giving him some very good advice. He and his descendants will thank you. :)</p>
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		<title>By: guinness416</title>
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		<dc:creator>guinness416</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 00:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For reasons I can&#039;t quite articulate these stories of people living like paupers and accumulating huge estates always leave me sad.  So many opportunities lost, experiences gone and decades of financial problems large &amp; small within the family that could have been solved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For reasons I can&#8217;t quite articulate these stories of people living like paupers and accumulating huge estates always leave me sad.  So many opportunities lost, experiences gone and decades of financial problems large &amp; small within the family that could have been solved.</p>
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		<title>By: Margaret</title>
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		<dc:creator>Margaret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2007 22:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Certainly the gentleman needs legal advice about setting up his trust, but I think it is clear that the author was not attempting to give legal advice.  What I read was that the gentleman had no idea how to distribute his estate.  Good for him for looking around to get his own ideas in order before spending time with a lawyer.  The man is managing an $8 million dollar estate that he accumulated himself;  no doubt he has the intelligence to adjust his plan after receiving legal advice if some parts of it are unworkable.

I think it is great that he wants to benefit all his family equally.  Two of the comments speak about some people &quot;diluting&quot; the pool by having more children.  So what?  First of all, any money that family gets from him is a gift, and they should be grateful that he chooses to give them anything.  Second, declining birthrates are a looming crisis in many countries.  Good for those who are willing to take on the financial burden of having more children.  Perhaps the gentleman recognizes that those with larger families also face larger financial commitments.  Perhaps he doesn&#039;t see children as some pest but as the future wage earning/tax paying/voting citizens who are going to be supporting you in your old age.  Or perhaps he thinks of all his descendants as equally worthy, and sees it as unfair to set up a situation where 50 years down the road one great grandchild could be getting 1/30th share of his estate and another could be getting 1/120th share simply for having siblings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Certainly the gentleman needs legal advice about setting up his trust, but I think it is clear that the author was not attempting to give legal advice.  What I read was that the gentleman had no idea how to distribute his estate.  Good for him for looking around to get his own ideas in order before spending time with a lawyer.  The man is managing an $8 million dollar estate that he accumulated himself;  no doubt he has the intelligence to adjust his plan after receiving legal advice if some parts of it are unworkable.</p>
<p>I think it is great that he wants to benefit all his family equally.  Two of the comments speak about some people &#8220;diluting&#8221; the pool by having more children.  So what?  First of all, any money that family gets from him is a gift, and they should be grateful that he chooses to give them anything.  Second, declining birthrates are a looming crisis in many countries.  Good for those who are willing to take on the financial burden of having more children.  Perhaps the gentleman recognizes that those with larger families also face larger financial commitments.  Perhaps he doesn&#8217;t see children as some pest but as the future wage earning/tax paying/voting citizens who are going to be supporting you in your old age.  Or perhaps he thinks of all his descendants as equally worthy, and sees it as unfair to set up a situation where 50 years down the road one great grandchild could be getting 1/30th share of his estate and another could be getting 1/120th share simply for having siblings.</p>
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		<title>By: MaddHatter</title>
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		<dc:creator>MaddHatter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2007 22:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do believe the above post is onto something.

And while above posts make it sound like maybe this is something you do need to take to the pros, with everything else in my financial life being self-service and working great so far, may I recommend an article on where one should/could store their estate assets?  Just a thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do believe the above post is onto something.</p>
<p>And while above posts make it sound like maybe this is something you do need to take to the pros, with everything else in my financial life being self-service and working great so far, may I recommend an article on where one should/could store their estate assets?  Just a thought.</p>
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		<title>By: !wanda</title>
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		<dc:creator>!wanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2007 22:30:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Jim and Peter R: Because it&#039;s not your fault if you have 4 siblings!  Kids these days do not regularly give back to the older generation, so it wouldn&#039;t really benefit the parents if 5 kids were getting trust funds vs. 2 kids getting trust funds.  Doling out the money per branch only makes sense if you want to discourage your progeny from having children.  

Also, I don&#039;t know what the guy wants to do about illegitimate children (is there such a thing anymore, legally speaking?), step-children, adopted children, etc.  Family structures are a lot more fluid than they used to be.  Really, consult a lawyer who is used to dealing with large estates.  

To the people who thought that Trent shouldn&#039;t have had this conversation: Come on, the guy needed someone to talk to for free to flesh out what he would like his ideal trust to do.  It&#039;s not useful to go into a lawyer&#039;s office with a blank mind.  Now the guy has a tentative plan that the lawyer can build on or alter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Jim and Peter R: Because it&#8217;s not your fault if you have 4 siblings!  Kids these days do not regularly give back to the older generation, so it wouldn&#8217;t really benefit the parents if 5 kids were getting trust funds vs. 2 kids getting trust funds.  Doling out the money per branch only makes sense if you want to discourage your progeny from having children.  </p>
<p>Also, I don&#8217;t know what the guy wants to do about illegitimate children (is there such a thing anymore, legally speaking?), step-children, adopted children, etc.  Family structures are a lot more fluid than they used to be.  Really, consult a lawyer who is used to dealing with large estates.  </p>
<p>To the people who thought that Trent shouldn&#8217;t have had this conversation: Come on, the guy needed someone to talk to for free to flesh out what he would like his ideal trust to do.  It&#8217;s not useful to go into a lawyer&#8217;s office with a blank mind.  Now the guy has a tentative plan that the lawyer can build on or alter.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2007 22:11:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Jim, if he had 5 children and 15 grand children the after tax money should be split 5 ways (for each of his children) then each of those 5 parts should be split evenly between parents and children.  If his children have grandkids and then great-grandkids they would only dilute their &quot;branch&quot;.  In 50 years it&#039;s likely that there are an extra 30 people getting money each year, why dilute the whole pool when some may only have 1 or 2 children and others may have 4-5?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Jim, if he had 5 children and 15 grand children the after tax money should be split 5 ways (for each of his children) then each of those 5 parts should be split evenly between parents and children.  If his children have grandkids and then great-grandkids they would only dilute their &#8220;branch&#8221;.  In 50 years it&#8217;s likely that there are an extra 30 people getting money each year, why dilute the whole pool when some may only have 1 or 2 children and others may have 4-5?</p>
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		<title>By: rkt88edmo</title>
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		<dc:creator>rkt88edmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2007 22:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes don&#039;t just use any lawyer, or a run of the mill estate and trust planner who spits out living trusts as the bulk of their work.

8 million is enought that you would want to find an experienced high weath gift &amp; estate expert that you can rely on.

We are in a tricky time right now since the state of the estate tax isn&#039;t really pinned down for future years.  Please have them consult someone who knows tax.

Also, will there be a trigger point, say if the distributions per person were to drop to $5,000 per person, it may make sense to liquidate the rest of the amount, as the administrative costs may be greater than the benefit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes don&#8217;t just use any lawyer, or a run of the mill estate and trust planner who spits out living trusts as the bulk of their work.</p>
<p>8 million is enought that you would want to find an experienced high weath gift &amp; estate expert that you can rely on.</p>
<p>We are in a tricky time right now since the state of the estate tax isn&#8217;t really pinned down for future years.  Please have them consult someone who knows tax.</p>
<p>Also, will there be a trigger point, say if the distributions per person were to drop to $5,000 per person, it may make sense to liquidate the rest of the amount, as the administrative costs may be greater than the benefit.</p>
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		<title>By: Lyndsey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lyndsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2007 20:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mardee is right and Angie is wrong. An imperfect trust is not better than nothing - in fact, an imperfect trust could completely fail to be a trust, or fail to properly dispose of all of the trust assets, leading to that oh-so-terrible probate of all the funds (either under the will or through intestacy.) Besides that, if he has a will, his 8 million dollar estate is not unprotected when the will is probated. It is protected by the court and by the executor of will. I agree that non-lawyers should not be giving out advice on how to develop trusts (or wills). A trust is not a &quot;standard form&quot; that a paralegal could fill out, and a will for someone with assets as great as 8 million is certainly not a standard form will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mardee is right and Angie is wrong. An imperfect trust is not better than nothing &#8211; in fact, an imperfect trust could completely fail to be a trust, or fail to properly dispose of all of the trust assets, leading to that oh-so-terrible probate of all the funds (either under the will or through intestacy.) Besides that, if he has a will, his 8 million dollar estate is not unprotected when the will is probated. It is protected by the court and by the executor of will. I agree that non-lawyers should not be giving out advice on how to develop trusts (or wills). A trust is not a &#8220;standard form&#8221; that a paralegal could fill out, and a will for someone with assets as great as 8 million is certainly not a standard form will.</p>
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		<title>By: Angie Hartford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angie Hartford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2007 20:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I respectfully disagree with Mardee. Even an imperfect trust is far better than an $8 million unprotected estate going through probate. Most lawyers use a standard form for wills, living wills, and the like, then bill at their rates for work done by a secretary or paralegal. 

I do believe that Mardee and I would agree on this: Do your estate planning. Now!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I respectfully disagree with Mardee. Even an imperfect trust is far better than an $8 million unprotected estate going through probate. Most lawyers use a standard form for wills, living wills, and the like, then bill at their rates for work done by a secretary or paralegal. </p>
<p>I do believe that Mardee and I would agree on this: Do your estate planning. Now!</p>
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		<title>By: dave lamport</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave lamport</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2007 19:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>is his last name lamport?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>is his last name lamport?</p>
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