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	<title>Comments on: The Debt Entrapment: When Your Debt Forces You To Stay At An Untenable Job</title>
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		<title>By: Make Friends, Earn Money</title>
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		<dc:creator>Make Friends, Earn Money</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 14:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely agree with this. I sepnt over 3 years in a job that I really did not enjoy because of financial constriants. It really doesn&#039;t help you, health wise or relationship wise. Furtunately myself and my wife got through it, but the excessive pressure of debt or financial committments should never force your hand to such an extent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree with this. I sepnt over 3 years in a job that I really did not enjoy because of financial constriants. It really doesn&#8217;t help you, health wise or relationship wise. Furtunately myself and my wife got through it, but the excessive pressure of debt or financial committments should never force your hand to such an extent.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 17:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A bit off-topic but if you are interested in programming I would recommend learning Ruby and Ruby on Rails.  It is currently the &quot;hot&quot; programming language and framework.  If you devote yourself to learning it and can demonstrate your skills you should have little problem finding a well-paying, interesting job in 6 months.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A bit off-topic but if you are interested in programming I would recommend learning Ruby and Ruby on Rails.  It is currently the &#8220;hot&#8221; programming language and framework.  If you devote yourself to learning it and can demonstrate your skills you should have little problem finding a well-paying, interesting job in 6 months.</p>
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		<title>By: R Kyles</title>
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		<dc:creator>R Kyles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 13:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well on the 2nd job tip, if you have high speed internet and a land line, you can supplement your income with an online job. I&#039;m an independent contractor with www.liveops.com and it has helps a lot... Just an idea. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well on the 2nd job tip, if you have high speed internet and a land line, you can supplement your income with an online job. I&#8217;m an independent contractor with <a href="http://www.liveops.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.liveops.com</a> and it has helps a lot&#8230; Just an idea. :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Mitch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 01:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frankly I&#039;m proud of MW, who begins to sound a sliver... dare I say... hopeful.  No idea whether the TSD commenters we had anything to do with it or not, but I for one am strangely warmed.  

But you&#039;re right, DB: learning Java or even one of the frameworks could be another smart move if we can assume sufficient computer access.  I also know a lot of people find programming much more difficult than markup, and OOP may be another beast altogether--so MW has no need to lose confidence if it breaks the brain, but all the more opportunity if s/he succeeds.  Also, like the webstore idea, if it doesn&#039;t work out perfectly it could still be an experience valuable to employers (go-getter, cross-training, etc.).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frankly I&#8217;m proud of MW, who begins to sound a sliver&#8230; dare I say&#8230; hopeful.  No idea whether the TSD commenters we had anything to do with it or not, but I for one am strangely warmed.  </p>
<p>But you&#8217;re right, DB: learning Java or even one of the frameworks could be another smart move if we can assume sufficient computer access.  I also know a lot of people find programming much more difficult than markup, and OOP may be another beast altogether&#8211;so MW has no need to lose confidence if it breaks the brain, but all the more opportunity if s/he succeeds.  Also, like the webstore idea, if it doesn&#8217;t work out perfectly it could still be an experience valuable to employers (go-getter, cross-training, etc.).</p>
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		<title>By: db</title>
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		<dc:creator>db</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 23:30:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well dang, Minimum Wage.

Your 10-year old html knowledge is out of date. Why not pick up a book on Java and teach yourself how to program, then bid yourself out on elance.com? Anything beats whining about your lack of skills.

I&#039;m in IT, and a lot of my peers never went to school to learn programming, they just picked up a programming book and started teaching themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well dang, Minimum Wage.</p>
<p>Your 10-year old html knowledge is out of date. Why not pick up a book on Java and teach yourself how to program, then bid yourself out on elance.com? Anything beats whining about your lack of skills.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m in IT, and a lot of my peers never went to school to learn programming, they just picked up a programming book and started teaching themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Mitch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 22:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MW, I got a couple of early jobs temp-to-hire (summer jobs then first year out of college), making 2x minimum wage, enough to get by on as a single person and room in large organizations to develop etc.   It may matter what job market you are in, but 1. you have a college degree, 2. you have experience, 3. you are computer literate--if you find yourself out of a job I bet the temp agencies will be excited to have you and employers tend to like hiring people they know.  They just like people they know, it&#039;s social psychology.

As for websites, I don&#039;t know what the latest-and-greatest is in secure &quot;shopping carts,&quot; credit verification, merchant accounts &amp;/or paypal, but if my freelance friend has any ideas I&#039;ll post back.  I know she tends to proffer Expression Engine as an affordable content-management system that her clients can use without a lot of training.  Or, you might like to start with more of a service like Catalog.com&#039;s hosting club.

Good luck!  (8</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MW, I got a couple of early jobs temp-to-hire (summer jobs then first year out of college), making 2x minimum wage, enough to get by on as a single person and room in large organizations to develop etc.   It may matter what job market you are in, but 1. you have a college degree, 2. you have experience, 3. you are computer literate&#8211;if you find yourself out of a job I bet the temp agencies will be excited to have you and employers tend to like hiring people they know.  They just like people they know, it&#8217;s social psychology.</p>
<p>As for websites, I don&#8217;t know what the latest-and-greatest is in secure &#8220;shopping carts,&#8221; credit verification, merchant accounts &amp;/or paypal, but if my freelance friend has any ideas I&#8217;ll post back.  I know she tends to proffer Expression Engine as an affordable content-management system that her clients can use without a lot of training.  Or, you might like to start with more of a service like Catalog.com&#8217;s hosting club.</p>
<p>Good luck!  (8</p>
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		<title>By: Minimum Wage</title>
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		<dc:creator>Minimum Wage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 20:33:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think my best shot is in doing something online.  I already took student loans, ultimately defaulted after four rent increases in four years with no corresponding wage increase.  I am currently making interest-only payments but my loans are still in default and I&#039;m not reducing the principal, which is why I can&#039;t go back to school.  Even if I did go back to school, at my age I don&#039;t think I&#039;m employable.  (Does anyone hire middle aged people for entry level positions?)

I have found a little niche in which I think I can profitably sell stuff online.  What I&#039;m looking for is a good, affordable, user-friendly website builder for getting started.  (I learned HTML ten years ago but never kept up with Java and XTML and all the newfangled stuff, so I&#039;m not even going to try to do a website from scratch.)  If I can get a website up and running I think I can run with it from there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think my best shot is in doing something online.  I already took student loans, ultimately defaulted after four rent increases in four years with no corresponding wage increase.  I am currently making interest-only payments but my loans are still in default and I&#8217;m not reducing the principal, which is why I can&#8217;t go back to school.  Even if I did go back to school, at my age I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;m employable.  (Does anyone hire middle aged people for entry level positions?)</p>
<p>I have found a little niche in which I think I can profitably sell stuff online.  What I&#8217;m looking for is a good, affordable, user-friendly website builder for getting started.  (I learned HTML ten years ago but never kept up with Java and XTML and all the newfangled stuff, so I&#8217;m not even going to try to do a website from scratch.)  If I can get a website up and running I think I can run with it from there.</p>
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		<title>By: Monica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 19:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Minimum Wage - some of us took student loans to go to school and don&#039;t regret it. I don&#039;t know what on earth I would have done if I didn&#039;t have the education that enabled me to enter this career. 

Even if, for whatever reason, you are unable or unwilling to go to school at this time, you can work at some other marketable skills. 

You obviously have access to a computer, so you could teach yourself web design skills, then volunteer these web design skills for free (perhaps to charities or local churches who don&#039;t yet have a web presence), then use those sites as a portfolio to convince paying customers that you would be a great choice to design/redesign their site.

You could find a way to improve your language skills. For example, you could get together with a recent Spanish-speaking immigrant on a regular basis. He could practice English with you, then the next time you could practice Spanish with him. Supplement with some library books (a Spanish grammar, etc.). 

If you&#039;re interested in writing/research, start writing articles and submitting them to magazines. You can look at a book at the library (the title escapes me) which lists the different magazines, tells you what kind of articles they publish, how much they pay, etc. 

Volunteer work is another way to pick up new skills. Contact the local volunteer bureau to see what opportunities there are. If there isn&#039;t anything that would be useful to you, consider approaching some organizations to offer yourself. Think about what kind of skills you would like to acquire. If you&#039;re interested in getting experience working with the public, maybe you could be a tour guide at the museum. If you want outdoorsy/nature skills, maybe look into a local park or nature society. 

You can also gain leadership/management/supervisory experience through volunteer work. If you are reliable you may be asked to be &quot;in charge&quot; of something.

Toastmasters is a way of gaining public speaking skills.

If you are in any religious or community group, your greater involvement there could gain you skills that would transfer to the workplace. For example, teaching Sunday School could lead to daycare work.

Also, maybe there are ways to move up at your present employer, or in that industry. I know someone who started working at McDonald&#039;s as a teenager and is now in his mid-twenties the manager of several different McDonald&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Minimum Wage &#8211; some of us took student loans to go to school and don&#8217;t regret it. I don&#8217;t know what on earth I would have done if I didn&#8217;t have the education that enabled me to enter this career. </p>
<p>Even if, for whatever reason, you are unable or unwilling to go to school at this time, you can work at some other marketable skills. </p>
<p>You obviously have access to a computer, so you could teach yourself web design skills, then volunteer these web design skills for free (perhaps to charities or local churches who don&#8217;t yet have a web presence), then use those sites as a portfolio to convince paying customers that you would be a great choice to design/redesign their site.</p>
<p>You could find a way to improve your language skills. For example, you could get together with a recent Spanish-speaking immigrant on a regular basis. He could practice English with you, then the next time you could practice Spanish with him. Supplement with some library books (a Spanish grammar, etc.). </p>
<p>If you&#8217;re interested in writing/research, start writing articles and submitting them to magazines. You can look at a book at the library (the title escapes me) which lists the different magazines, tells you what kind of articles they publish, how much they pay, etc. </p>
<p>Volunteer work is another way to pick up new skills. Contact the local volunteer bureau to see what opportunities there are. If there isn&#8217;t anything that would be useful to you, consider approaching some organizations to offer yourself. Think about what kind of skills you would like to acquire. If you&#8217;re interested in getting experience working with the public, maybe you could be a tour guide at the museum. If you want outdoorsy/nature skills, maybe look into a local park or nature society. </p>
<p>You can also gain leadership/management/supervisory experience through volunteer work. If you are reliable you may be asked to be &#8220;in charge&#8221; of something.</p>
<p>Toastmasters is a way of gaining public speaking skills.</p>
<p>If you are in any religious or community group, your greater involvement there could gain you skills that would transfer to the workplace. For example, teaching Sunday School could lead to daycare work.</p>
<p>Also, maybe there are ways to move up at your present employer, or in that industry. I know someone who started working at McDonald&#8217;s as a teenager and is now in his mid-twenties the manager of several different McDonald&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 18:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been in that situation where I had to stay in a job that was driving my nuts but one I couldn&#039;t quit because I needed to keep paying my debts. The worst part of the whole situation was that defaulting on anything would impact my parents who had co-signed a loan for me so I had the extra guilt of being forced to stay. I hated the situation and unfortunately I was too comfortable to fight my way out of it... I just dealt with a job I didn&#039;t really like. 

Now I&#039;m getting my debt under control in those small ways to be sure I am no longer controlled by my work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been in that situation where I had to stay in a job that was driving my nuts but one I couldn&#8217;t quit because I needed to keep paying my debts. The worst part of the whole situation was that defaulting on anything would impact my parents who had co-signed a loan for me so I had the extra guilt of being forced to stay. I hated the situation and unfortunately I was too comfortable to fight my way out of it&#8230; I just dealt with a job I didn&#8217;t really like. </p>
<p>Now I&#8217;m getting my debt under control in those small ways to be sure I am no longer controlled by my work.</p>
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		<title>By: Jean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 16:56:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What if the spouse won&#039;t co-operate in getting out of debt?  So many people I know of have spouses that spend...and spend...and spend.  And there seems to be no way to get them to see what it&#039;s doing to them.

Since my hubby and I are on the same page spending and savings-wise, I can&#039;t help... any body else know how to get the spouse on board?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What if the spouse won&#8217;t co-operate in getting out of debt?  So many people I know of have spouses that spend&#8230;and spend&#8230;and spend.  And there seems to be no way to get them to see what it&#8217;s doing to them.</p>
<p>Since my hubby and I are on the same page spending and savings-wise, I can&#8217;t help&#8230; any body else know how to get the spouse on board?</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 14:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Then go to the library and use the tutorials in the programs and the training books the library will have (try the For Dummies series, or use whatever else they have) to teach yourself. Educate yourself. That&#039;s what I did. If there are a number of unemployed people in your area, why not try to convince the librarian to hold such a seminar? I&#039;m sure it would be useful for more people than just you.

Stop making excuses, really. You can acknowledge that getting skills is not a priority for you. That&#039;s absolutely fine. That&#039;s valid. Trying to delude yourself (and by extension, us) into believing that there is absolutely nothing you can do, however, is absolutely the worst thing for you TO do. The only thing that it does is force you into a helplessness that you don&#039;t need to be in.

With self-discipline comes self-respect. With knowledge and education comes self-respect. Just take the first step and it will work itself out - or, more properly, you will be able to work it out yourself. I&#039;ve always found that to be the case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then go to the library and use the tutorials in the programs and the training books the library will have (try the For Dummies series, or use whatever else they have) to teach yourself. Educate yourself. That&#8217;s what I did. If there are a number of unemployed people in your area, why not try to convince the librarian to hold such a seminar? I&#8217;m sure it would be useful for more people than just you.</p>
<p>Stop making excuses, really. You can acknowledge that getting skills is not a priority for you. That&#8217;s absolutely fine. That&#8217;s valid. Trying to delude yourself (and by extension, us) into believing that there is absolutely nothing you can do, however, is absolutely the worst thing for you TO do. The only thing that it does is force you into a helplessness that you don&#8217;t need to be in.</p>
<p>With self-discipline comes self-respect. With knowledge and education comes self-respect. Just take the first step and it will work itself out &#8211; or, more properly, you will be able to work it out yourself. I&#8217;ve always found that to be the case.</p>
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		<title>By: Minimum Wage</title>
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		<dc:creator>Minimum Wage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 13:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Local libraries here don&#039;t have anything like what you describe. I earn minimum wage and have debt and a collector suing me - I expect to have no money for the foreseeable future, i.e. going to school or a training programis not an option.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Local libraries here don&#8217;t have anything like what you describe. I earn minimum wage and have debt and a collector suing me &#8211; I expect to have no money for the foreseeable future, i.e. going to school or a training programis not an option.</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 13:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you have no marketable skills... get skills! Many libraries have free seminars on learning computer basics like the Microsoft Office suite. Almost any college will have a continuing education program which will provide all sorts of classes geared towards beginners in just about any subject. Look into vo-tech schools. A typical program could last 12-16 months and provide you with a marketable skill in, say, auto mechanics or AC repair.

There is no reason why you cannot get the skills to get a better job, if getting those skills is a priority for you. If your priority is self-pity, though, I definitely agree with you that you&#039;re sunk.

By the way, that may sound callous, but I have been absolutely dirt poor (the kind of poor where you really wonder where your next meal is coming from) and built myself up from nothing. I have no patience with people who won&#039;t help themselves and then complain that things aren&#039;t magically handed to them. Getting out of poverty and learning a trade is not a cakewalk by any stretch of the imagination, but it&#039;s very necessary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you have no marketable skills&#8230; get skills! Many libraries have free seminars on learning computer basics like the Microsoft Office suite. Almost any college will have a continuing education program which will provide all sorts of classes geared towards beginners in just about any subject. Look into vo-tech schools. A typical program could last 12-16 months and provide you with a marketable skill in, say, auto mechanics or AC repair.</p>
<p>There is no reason why you cannot get the skills to get a better job, if getting those skills is a priority for you. If your priority is self-pity, though, I definitely agree with you that you&#8217;re sunk.</p>
<p>By the way, that may sound callous, but I have been absolutely dirt poor (the kind of poor where you really wonder where your next meal is coming from) and built myself up from nothing. I have no patience with people who won&#8217;t help themselves and then complain that things aren&#8217;t magically handed to them. Getting out of poverty and learning a trade is not a cakewalk by any stretch of the imagination, but it&#8217;s very necessary.</p>
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		<title>By: The Happy Rock</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Happy Rock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 13:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is amazing how much better you can cope with a crappy job or situation when you have a plan.  When you can see the light at the end of the tunnel that helps know that the current pain is temporary and part of a bigger larger better plan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is amazing how much better you can cope with a crappy job or situation when you have a plan.  When you can see the light at the end of the tunnel that helps know that the current pain is temporary and part of a bigger larger better plan.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick in Iraq</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick in Iraq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 07:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Debt is one of the most effective ways of controlling people, and this is exactly how. When you are scared of losing &quot;things&quot; like that new car you don&#039;t need, the McMansion, and the big screen TV, that you don&#039;t speak out, you stay in in your crummy job, and hope that eventually you can pay it off. 

When you are in the situation, you can&#039;t voice complaints in your job or any authority for that matter. Forget about taking time off to work on things that are important, you have to keep earning that paycheck!

Best of luck getting out of debt, I know how tough it is, but it&#039;s worth it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Debt is one of the most effective ways of controlling people, and this is exactly how. When you are scared of losing &#8220;things&#8221; like that new car you don&#8217;t need, the McMansion, and the big screen TV, that you don&#8217;t speak out, you stay in in your crummy job, and hope that eventually you can pay it off. </p>
<p>When you are in the situation, you can&#8217;t voice complaints in your job or any authority for that matter. Forget about taking time off to work on things that are important, you have to keep earning that paycheck!</p>
<p>Best of luck getting out of debt, I know how tough it is, but it&#8217;s worth it.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Atkin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben Atkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 06:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the sound of it, I think he probably needs to work another couple of months and save some money. Even if you have a new job lined up right after the old one, it&#039;s good to have a paycheck&#039;s worth saved up (and not relied upon for other things). What if the new job has a different pay schedule? What if there are unexpected expenses for things like uniforms, equipment, or study materials that are needed for the new job?

He&#039;s probably discouraged and could pull off switching to a new job quicker than he thinks, but perhaps not immediately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the sound of it, I think he probably needs to work another couple of months and save some money. Even if you have a new job lined up right after the old one, it&#8217;s good to have a paycheck&#8217;s worth saved up (and not relied upon for other things). What if the new job has a different pay schedule? What if there are unexpected expenses for things like uniforms, equipment, or study materials that are needed for the new job?</p>
<p>He&#8217;s probably discouraged and could pull off switching to a new job quicker than he thinks, but perhaps not immediately.</p>
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		<title>By: Minimum Wage</title>
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		<dc:creator>Minimum Wage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 05:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What if you have no marketable skills and the only jobs you can get are crummy jobs that you hate?  I once had two jobs I hated but the stress was unsustainable so I quit the second job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What if you have no marketable skills and the only jobs you can get are crummy jobs that you hate?  I once had two jobs I hated but the stress was unsustainable so I quit the second job.</p>
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		<title>By: The Digerati Life</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Digerati Life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 03:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s truly such a sad catch-22 for many. In the end, it&#039;s about trying to find that way out - perhaps by finding a new job with less hours and possibly lower  pay just so that you get the time to learn new skills applicable for a career that can pay you better.  It&#039;s about investing in yourself but I can imagine how difficult this can be for those financially underwater to begin with. Clearly, a tough uphill battle.  But one that can be won with hard determination.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s truly such a sad catch-22 for many. In the end, it&#8217;s about trying to find that way out &#8211; perhaps by finding a new job with less hours and possibly lower  pay just so that you get the time to learn new skills applicable for a career that can pay you better.  It&#8217;s about investing in yourself but I can imagine how difficult this can be for those financially underwater to begin with. Clearly, a tough uphill battle.  But one that can be won with hard determination.</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 03:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Kristina. There is always something you can do to help yourself. I&#039;ve been in this situation before. My required hours slowly crept from 40 to over 60. I spent the last month at that job searching for a new position. I found one which paid over $13k more and made fewer requirements on my time. If Will really wants to make a change (some people just want to complain - hopefully that&#039;s not the case) then he can do it. The short-term effort is definitely worth the long-term reward.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Kristina. There is always something you can do to help yourself. I&#8217;ve been in this situation before. My required hours slowly crept from 40 to over 60. I spent the last month at that job searching for a new position. I found one which paid over $13k more and made fewer requirements on my time. If Will really wants to make a change (some people just want to complain &#8211; hopefully that&#8217;s not the case) then he can do it. The short-term effort is definitely worth the long-term reward.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 00:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a good situation if it sparks real, life-long change.  Now, prior to making any purchase (or going out to eat or doing anything that is not an absolute need), stop and ask yourself if it&#039;s worth being financially enslaved to have that item.  Hopefully the answer will be &quot;no&quot; and you&#039;ll get serious about paying off debt and staying out of it.  

Second, I agree with the above suggestions that in addition to getting  a second job, this person should look for a different primary job.  Often, people create a scenario in their heads where they are trapped or stuck, but in fact they haven&#039;t done anything proactive to change their situation.  The only way this person knows that he&#039;s really trapped is if he&#039;s already spent months looking for another full-time job.  I doubt this has happened.  So, get serious about a real job search.  And do it with a positive, empowered attitude do that you look appealing to employers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a good situation if it sparks real, life-long change.  Now, prior to making any purchase (or going out to eat or doing anything that is not an absolute need), stop and ask yourself if it&#8217;s worth being financially enslaved to have that item.  Hopefully the answer will be &#8220;no&#8221; and you&#8217;ll get serious about paying off debt and staying out of it.  </p>
<p>Second, I agree with the above suggestions that in addition to getting  a second job, this person should look for a different primary job.  Often, people create a scenario in their heads where they are trapped or stuck, but in fact they haven&#8217;t done anything proactive to change their situation.  The only way this person knows that he&#8217;s really trapped is if he&#8217;s already spent months looking for another full-time job.  I doubt this has happened.  So, get serious about a real job search.  And do it with a positive, empowered attitude do that you look appealing to employers.</p>
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