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	<title>Comments on: Should You Vote For A Politician That Promises Lower Taxes?</title>
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		<title>By: Elliot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elliot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 05:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow this blog moves fast, this post is already on the second page!

Well, I&#039;d like to say that if the author applied the  same strenuous cost/benefit analysis he used in a previous post to determine if a second freezer should be purchased(http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/07/16/is-a-deep-freezer-worth-it/) to the question of voting, i would think the only advice would be... don&#039;t vote.  The chance of an individual vote affecting the outcome of the election is extremely unlikely.  Thus, informing yourself to vote for the right candidate can be seen as a waste of time economically since whether you vote &quot;correctly&quot; or &quot;incorrectly&quot;
 doesn&#039;t matter.  To tip the scales of an election, the election has to be tied and your vote has to be the one vote that elects the politician.  That rarely happens in large electorates however.  

If one enjoys learning about politics then sure, go learn about the candidates and have fun debating.  I personally enjoy politics and follow it for that reason.  To follow politics because you believe your individual action in the voting booth will affect your pocket book, however, is foolish. 

The tip about getting free meals at political events is good too.  I&#039;ll have to try that sometime.  

-Elliot</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow this blog moves fast, this post is already on the second page!</p>
<p>Well, I&#8217;d like to say that if the author applied the  same strenuous cost/benefit analysis he used in a previous post to determine if a second freezer should be purchased(http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/07/16/is-a-deep-freezer-worth-it/) to the question of voting, i would think the only advice would be&#8230; don&#8217;t vote.  The chance of an individual vote affecting the outcome of the election is extremely unlikely.  Thus, informing yourself to vote for the right candidate can be seen as a waste of time economically since whether you vote &#8220;correctly&#8221; or &#8220;incorrectly&#8221;<br />
 doesn&#8217;t matter.  To tip the scales of an election, the election has to be tied and your vote has to be the one vote that elects the politician.  That rarely happens in large electorates however.  </p>
<p>If one enjoys learning about politics then sure, go learn about the candidates and have fun debating.  I personally enjoy politics and follow it for that reason.  To follow politics because you believe your individual action in the voting booth will affect your pocket book, however, is foolish. </p>
<p>The tip about getting free meals at political events is good too.  I&#8217;ll have to try that sometime.  </p>
<p>-Elliot</p>
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		<title>By: sharon</title>
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		<dc:creator>sharon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 08:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If a politician promising to cut your taxes is all you need to make your decision, I suggest you stop &amp; think about what taxes do pay for -- when they&#039;re spent correctly. Police &amp; fire depts, public schools, libraries, clearing snow from your streets ... the list goes on. I&#039;ve always believed that paying taxes is the price you pay for living in a civilized society (not sure who originally said that), but those who&#039;d have you believe that you&#039;d be better off by paying less taxes will likely not reveal what will be raised or cut to make up for the government&#039;s loss of your taxes. Your local school might not get necessary funding for new books or repairs, Pell grant aid might get cut ... that list goes on as well. What good is getting an extra $200/year from my taxes if I&#039;m going to have to pay more to go to college? Better, I believe, to become and remain a well-informed voter &amp; citizen and really pay attention to how the officials (who work for us) are spending our money. Yes, we&#039;re all on this website to learn how to better manage our financial lives (among many other things - thank you!) ... but who among us would not gladly pay more in taxes if it meant truly taking care of the less fortunate among us, especially considering that many of us might be, have been, or might in the future be in that category?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If a politician promising to cut your taxes is all you need to make your decision, I suggest you stop &amp; think about what taxes do pay for &#8212; when they&#8217;re spent correctly. Police &amp; fire depts, public schools, libraries, clearing snow from your streets &#8230; the list goes on. I&#8217;ve always believed that paying taxes is the price you pay for living in a civilized society (not sure who originally said that), but those who&#8217;d have you believe that you&#8217;d be better off by paying less taxes will likely not reveal what will be raised or cut to make up for the government&#8217;s loss of your taxes. Your local school might not get necessary funding for new books or repairs, Pell grant aid might get cut &#8230; that list goes on as well. What good is getting an extra $200/year from my taxes if I&#8217;m going to have to pay more to go to college? Better, I believe, to become and remain a well-informed voter &amp; citizen and really pay attention to how the officials (who work for us) are spending our money. Yes, we&#8217;re all on this website to learn how to better manage our financial lives (among many other things &#8211; thank you!) &#8230; but who among us would not gladly pay more in taxes if it meant truly taking care of the less fortunate among us, especially considering that many of us might be, have been, or might in the future be in that category?</p>
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		<title>By: natureboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>natureboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 03:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I certainly am disappointed with questions you&#039;ve posed in your blog. You forgot:

6. Cut whose taxes? Republicans have done a gret job drastically cutting the taxes for the rich while throwing a few scraps to the poor.

7. At the expense of which services? I&#039;d be happy to pay more in taxes for the security of knowing my bridge won&#039;t collapse for disrepair, my kids will have a decent education and having health care no matter if my employer lays me off.

8. Are they willing to lower spending? Republicans have boosted spending in all the wrong areas, and future generations will suffer paying for our deficit.

I&#039;d just point out, tax is good. I enjoy paying my state tax, knowing all the good that comes of it. I dislike paying my federal tax, knowing all the money pissed away on a stupid war.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I certainly am disappointed with questions you&#8217;ve posed in your blog. You forgot:</p>
<p>6. Cut whose taxes? Republicans have done a gret job drastically cutting the taxes for the rich while throwing a few scraps to the poor.</p>
<p>7. At the expense of which services? I&#8217;d be happy to pay more in taxes for the security of knowing my bridge won&#8217;t collapse for disrepair, my kids will have a decent education and having health care no matter if my employer lays me off.</p>
<p>8. Are they willing to lower spending? Republicans have boosted spending in all the wrong areas, and future generations will suffer paying for our deficit.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d just point out, tax is good. I enjoy paying my state tax, knowing all the good that comes of it. I dislike paying my federal tax, knowing all the money pissed away on a stupid war.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2007 20:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trent, I hope you read through the politicians answers and how they were mapped to positions in that web tool you pointed out.

I read through them for several candidates and they do not map well.

I.e.  If a candidate supports long prison sentences for gun crimes then this tool indicates that they are against gun ownership.

If a candidate is ok with a moment of silence, then this tool says they are in favor of teacher led prayer.

etc.

So, at best, you should be sure to read the whole site and not just see your top matches.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trent, I hope you read through the politicians answers and how they were mapped to positions in that web tool you pointed out.</p>
<p>I read through them for several candidates and they do not map well.</p>
<p>I.e.  If a candidate supports long prison sentences for gun crimes then this tool indicates that they are against gun ownership.</p>
<p>If a candidate is ok with a moment of silence, then this tool says they are in favor of teacher led prayer.</p>
<p>etc.</p>
<p>So, at best, you should be sure to read the whole site and not just see your top matches.</p>
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		<title>By: Tristan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tristan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2007 18:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would vote for the politician who promises to tax the rich and help the poor with the gains. I&#039;m sick of leaders who steal from the poor then use tax dollars to provide corporate welfare, endless war, tax cuts for the rich, pork. The government is suppose to be for the people. Not for the elite and corporations.

Our government needs to get with it and join every other western nation in providing fully, tax funded, universal health care for all citizens. If our taxes were spent to help people instead of killing them we would need no new taxes. 

In the end, I will vote for the most Socialist candidate. As a Christian I have to support those who have the most Christ like stance. If they have to raise taxes to care for the least of us then so be it. I&#039;ve had enough of elite leaders who pretend to be Christians while oppressing needy Americans for gain.

Here is some more information: http://www.nyu.edu/projects/ollman/docs/practical_christianity.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would vote for the politician who promises to tax the rich and help the poor with the gains. I&#8217;m sick of leaders who steal from the poor then use tax dollars to provide corporate welfare, endless war, tax cuts for the rich, pork. The government is suppose to be for the people. Not for the elite and corporations.</p>
<p>Our government needs to get with it and join every other western nation in providing fully, tax funded, universal health care for all citizens. If our taxes were spent to help people instead of killing them we would need no new taxes. </p>
<p>In the end, I will vote for the most Socialist candidate. As a Christian I have to support those who have the most Christ like stance. If they have to raise taxes to care for the least of us then so be it. I&#8217;ve had enough of elite leaders who pretend to be Christians while oppressing needy Americans for gain.</p>
<p>Here is some more information: <a href="http://www.nyu.edu/projects/ollman/docs/practical_christianity.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.nyu.edu/projects/ollman/docs/practical_christianity.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: Judith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Judith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2007 16:07:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like others, I&#039;m more impressed with a candidate who wishes to reduce spending instead of one who simply voices a promise to reduce taxes. 

@rhbee Nice point. I would have thought that the more they raise the more turned off we should be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like others, I&#8217;m more impressed with a candidate who wishes to reduce spending instead of one who simply voices a promise to reduce taxes. </p>
<p>@rhbee Nice point. I would have thought that the more they raise the more turned off we should be.</p>
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		<title>By: rhbee</title>
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		<dc:creator>rhbee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2007 15:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is so encouraging to me to read such level-headed commentary from what I take to be a wide cross-section of people.  Maybe there is hope for this country via the election process, afterall.  One thing I haven&#039;t heard mentioned much is the obscene amount of money the candidates are raising in order to wage their campaigns.  How did it ever get to this state?  And why are we supposed to be so impressed by how much they raise?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is so encouraging to me to read such level-headed commentary from what I take to be a wide cross-section of people.  Maybe there is hope for this country via the election process, afterall.  One thing I haven&#8217;t heard mentioned much is the obscene amount of money the candidates are raising in order to wage their campaigns.  How did it ever get to this state?  And why are we supposed to be so impressed by how much they raise?</p>
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		<title>By: plonkee</title>
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		<dc:creator>plonkee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2007 13:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t care who you lot vote for, I just say that you should vote for the person who would be best for society as a whole, not necessarily best for you personally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t care who you lot vote for, I just say that you should vote for the person who would be best for society as a whole, not necessarily best for you personally.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2007 13:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>President Bush has done more damage to this country than the carnage on 9/11.  He&#039;s been spending our money like a drunken sailor.

When President Reagan left office, every man, woman, and child living in this country owed $23,000 dollars as his share of the federal deficit.

When President Clinton left office, for the first time since President Kennedy, we had a budget surplus.  Clinton&#039;s growth policies plus some good luck managed to wipe out the federal deficit.

And then along came Bush.  When Bush leaves
office in 2009, every man, woman, and child will 
owe $300,000 toward the federal deficit.  That 
chicklette brain managed to go through the Clinton
surplus and make Reagan&#039;s administration look 
like a balanced budget.

Nobody mentions the federal deficit and the 
mind bogling interest we pay to support this 
administration&#039;s policies.

But it has to be paid!  This means tax increases 
and eliminating the tax breaks for the wealthy.

This should have been done yesterday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>President Bush has done more damage to this country than the carnage on 9/11.  He&#8217;s been spending our money like a drunken sailor.</p>
<p>When President Reagan left office, every man, woman, and child living in this country owed $23,000 dollars as his share of the federal deficit.</p>
<p>When President Clinton left office, for the first time since President Kennedy, we had a budget surplus.  Clinton&#8217;s growth policies plus some good luck managed to wipe out the federal deficit.</p>
<p>And then along came Bush.  When Bush leaves<br />
office in 2009, every man, woman, and child will<br />
owe $300,000 toward the federal deficit.  That<br />
chicklette brain managed to go through the Clinton<br />
surplus and make Reagan&#8217;s administration look<br />
like a balanced budget.</p>
<p>Nobody mentions the federal deficit and the<br />
mind bogling interest we pay to support this<br />
administration&#8217;s policies.</p>
<p>But it has to be paid!  This means tax increases<br />
and eliminating the tax breaks for the wealthy.</p>
<p>This should have been done yesterday.</p>
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		<title>By: B. Gonzalez</title>
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		<dc:creator>B. Gonzalez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2007 06:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t understand how a bunch of people concerned about being frugality can ignore that since tax rates have fallen across the board tax receipts have increased on the Federal and state level, except for states that have had legacy industry declines, there are many states operating at surpluses - hell, there are states doing all they can to make ailing programs like food stamps &quot;no questions asked&quot; entitlements and going so far as to advertise (in Spanish I should add.)

Secondly, I don&#039;t think you people are taking into consideration the new taxes that were created that were supposed to be push education over the top - everything from the lottery to 300% tobacco taxes. How about the new trend for taxation in the form of fees?  In Louisiana, they added a $1 fee to milk after dropping the taxes on groceries to 3%.

For one, a politicians primary source of power is the ability to tax.  The first bullet point in their job description is to get re-elected. 

I am seriously beginning to question every bit of information that I read here. Especially when one very tragic bridge collapse in a nation with hundreds of thousands of bridges can all of a sudden mead the infrastructure of the country is in collapse.  Speak to fresh from surviving the shark filled waters of the Gulf fleeing Cuba if you want to know what a crumbling infrastructure is like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand how a bunch of people concerned about being frugality can ignore that since tax rates have fallen across the board tax receipts have increased on the Federal and state level, except for states that have had legacy industry declines, there are many states operating at surpluses &#8211; hell, there are states doing all they can to make ailing programs like food stamps &#8220;no questions asked&#8221; entitlements and going so far as to advertise (in Spanish I should add.)</p>
<p>Secondly, I don&#8217;t think you people are taking into consideration the new taxes that were created that were supposed to be push education over the top &#8211; everything from the lottery to 300% tobacco taxes. How about the new trend for taxation in the form of fees?  In Louisiana, they added a $1 fee to milk after dropping the taxes on groceries to 3%.</p>
<p>For one, a politicians primary source of power is the ability to tax.  The first bullet point in their job description is to get re-elected. </p>
<p>I am seriously beginning to question every bit of information that I read here. Especially when one very tragic bridge collapse in a nation with hundreds of thousands of bridges can all of a sudden mead the infrastructure of the country is in collapse.  Speak to fresh from surviving the shark filled waters of the Gulf fleeing Cuba if you want to know what a crumbling infrastructure is like.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2007 02:42:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh FairTax, how I long for your simplicity!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh FairTax, how I long for your simplicity!</p>
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		<title>By: Heather</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2007 00:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The 2001 tax cuts actually wound up raising our taxes, because it pushed us into AMT-land. So you have to take a second look on a proposed tax cut and where you are relative to triggering AMT. As long as AMT exists, lawmakers can &quot;cut taxes&quot; a lot without actually reducing your tax load! 

* &quot;reducing households’ tax liability under the regular income tax without changing what they owe under the AMT ... increases the number of households that owe the AMT&quot;

* AMT is estimated to affect (by 2010) &quot;37% of households with income between $50,000 and $75,000 and 73% of households with income between $75,000 and $100,000 (compared to less than 3 percent for each group in 2002).&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 2001 tax cuts actually wound up raising our taxes, because it pushed us into AMT-land. So you have to take a second look on a proposed tax cut and where you are relative to triggering AMT. As long as AMT exists, lawmakers can &#8220;cut taxes&#8221; a lot without actually reducing your tax load! </p>
<p>* &#8220;reducing households’ tax liability under the regular income tax without changing what they owe under the AMT &#8230; increases the number of households that owe the AMT&#8221;</p>
<p>* AMT is estimated to affect (by 2010) &#8220;37% of households with income between $50,000 and $75,000 and 73% of households with income between $75,000 and $100,000 (compared to less than 3 percent for each group in 2002).&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Trent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 23:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nothing&#039;s wrong with Paul or Kucinich... I just found it strange that my best two matches were with a paleoconservative and probably the most liberal Democrat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing&#8217;s wrong with Paul or Kucinich&#8230; I just found it strange that my best two matches were with a paleoconservative and probably the most liberal Democrat.</p>
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		<title>By: Snit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Snit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 23:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a professor at a state university in a state in which property taxes are being cut this year. Yippee! But so are the classes we can offer to our students, the number of new students admitted into our university, our raises, our research databases, and yep, our morale. Many our fleeing to other states where education of youth is valued. I can only imagine what other state employees are having to face -- esp. those engaged in educating k-12, fire and police and other rescuse workers. I&#039;m not running off myself but have been warned twice by my city works that utilities will be going up significantly, one by 45 per cent.  Remember when you vote -- taxes cut means costs occur elsewhere...nothing is &quot;free,&quot; not education, not safety, not paved roads, not water, sewer, energy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a professor at a state university in a state in which property taxes are being cut this year. Yippee! But so are the classes we can offer to our students, the number of new students admitted into our university, our raises, our research databases, and yep, our morale. Many our fleeing to other states where education of youth is valued. I can only imagine what other state employees are having to face &#8212; esp. those engaged in educating k-12, fire and police and other rescuse workers. I&#8217;m not running off myself but have been warned twice by my city works that utilities will be going up significantly, one by 45 per cent.  Remember when you vote &#8212; taxes cut means costs occur elsewhere&#8230;nothing is &#8220;free,&#8221; not education, not safety, not paved roads, not water, sewer, energy.</p>
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		<title>By: consumer_q</title>
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		<dc:creator>consumer_q</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 23:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am fine with paying my fair share of taxes, but as others have noted, cut some spending. Perhaps divert some of the gun money to more butter...?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am fine with paying my fair share of taxes, but as others have noted, cut some spending. Perhaps divert some of the gun money to more butter&#8230;?</p>
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		<title>By: q</title>
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		<dc:creator>q</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 22:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I second Ryan and Laszlo&#039;s points!  A big anti-tax movement swept through my state during the time I was in college.  It saved my family probably $60 a year in cash... and severely impacted the major public university that both I and my younger sibling attended, such that by the time he got there tuition has increased by a substantial amount and a lot of the best professors were being hired away.  

It also compromised the public transportation system; the excess my parents pay in gas since they can no longer commute easily by bus is significantly more than the $60 a year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I second Ryan and Laszlo&#8217;s points!  A big anti-tax movement swept through my state during the time I was in college.  It saved my family probably $60 a year in cash&#8230; and severely impacted the major public university that both I and my younger sibling attended, such that by the time he got there tuition has increased by a substantial amount and a lot of the best professors were being hired away.  </p>
<p>It also compromised the public transportation system; the excess my parents pay in gas since they can no longer commute easily by bus is significantly more than the $60 a year.</p>
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		<title>By: Laszlo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laszlo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 19:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Taxes and spending are two sides of the same coin. Anything the government buys now will have to be paid back through taxes eventually (with interest!). The current administration pushed through some hefty tax cuts, yes. But they were coupled with huge spending increases.

Focusing solely on whether a candidate cuts taxes is a mistake. They could simply be making a huge mess that needs to cleaned up (and paid for) by later administrations with the taxes of our children and grandchildren.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Taxes and spending are two sides of the same coin. Anything the government buys now will have to be paid back through taxes eventually (with interest!). The current administration pushed through some hefty tax cuts, yes. But they were coupled with huge spending increases.</p>
<p>Focusing solely on whether a candidate cuts taxes is a mistake. They could simply be making a huge mess that needs to cleaned up (and paid for) by later administrations with the taxes of our children and grandchildren.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 19:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>also consider what exatly those taxes pay for.  A while back in Virginia, Gilmore ran for Gov on a platform to eliminate the car tax.  he won and eliminated the tax (about 8 bucks per car per year - my fam saved about 16 bucks per year) and the public education system suffered greatly (and still does).  Of course VA has pretty low taxes anyway and you cant attribute all the problems to cutting the car tax - but it surely didnt help!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>also consider what exatly those taxes pay for.  A while back in Virginia, Gilmore ran for Gov on a platform to eliminate the car tax.  he won and eliminated the tax (about 8 bucks per car per year &#8211; my fam saved about 16 bucks per year) and the public education system suffered greatly (and still does).  Of course VA has pretty low taxes anyway and you cant attribute all the problems to cutting the car tax &#8211; but it surely didnt help!</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 18:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Take it from a New Yorker - anything that comes out of Giuliani&#039;s mouth is a lie. He won&#039;t cut your taxes. He wants to make government bigger - which means either borrowing more money from the Chinese (a rock) or stealing more from the American people (a hard place). If he gets elected, it&#039;s the taxpayers that are going to be between that rock and that hard place.

And just what is wrong with Ron Paul, pray? He&#039;s the only Congressman whose voting record is 100% consistent with his principles. Now THAT&#039;s the kind of guy you want as president. (Which is exactly why he&#039;ll never BE president, I guess.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take it from a New Yorker &#8211; anything that comes out of Giuliani&#8217;s mouth is a lie. He won&#8217;t cut your taxes. He wants to make government bigger &#8211; which means either borrowing more money from the Chinese (a rock) or stealing more from the American people (a hard place). If he gets elected, it&#8217;s the taxpayers that are going to be between that rock and that hard place.</p>
<p>And just what is wrong with Ron Paul, pray? He&#8217;s the only Congressman whose voting record is 100% consistent with his principles. Now THAT&#8217;s the kind of guy you want as president. (Which is exactly why he&#8217;ll never BE president, I guess.)</p>
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		<title>By: Cat's Staff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cat's Staff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 18:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No one will be in a position to cut all your taxes at once...  If the Governor will veto anything that will add or increase taxes to stay true to his &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rebeccaotto.com/Vision/mnfinances.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;no new taxes&lt;/a&gt;&quot; pledge, then local governments may have to raise taxes.  The roads need to be plowed, and roads need to be fixed, &lt;a href=&quot;http://delawarewatch.blogspot.com/2007/08/no-new-taxes-and-bridge-collapses-in.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;bridges need to be repaired&lt;/a&gt;.

Every Minnesota Governor that I can think of has invoked the 1974 image of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.time.com/time/covers/0,16641,19730813,00.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Gov. Anderson on the cover of Time magazine&lt;/a&gt; with the caption &quot;the Good Life in Minnesota&quot; during State of the State speeches as if to say &quot;We could have this again!&quot;.  Sorry, but we are not all going to have it at this rate, only the few who can afford it.

There is nothing wrong with taxes if they are well spent.  Think of it like economy of scale.  There are places in Mexico were each block has to come up with the money to pave the street.  If they can&#039;t come up with it their block stays dirt.  There are some streets the are paved, dirt, paved, etc.  In the end it costs more to pave the streets, that&#039;s not a very efficient way of spending money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one will be in a position to cut all your taxes at once&#8230;  If the Governor will veto anything that will add or increase taxes to stay true to his &#8220;<a href="http://www.rebeccaotto.com/Vision/mnfinances.html" rel="nofollow">no new taxes</a>&#8221; pledge, then local governments may have to raise taxes.  The roads need to be plowed, and roads need to be fixed, <a href="http://delawarewatch.blogspot.com/2007/08/no-new-taxes-and-bridge-collapses-in.html" rel="nofollow">bridges need to be repaired</a>.</p>
<p>Every Minnesota Governor that I can think of has invoked the 1974 image of <a href="http://www.time.com/time/covers/0,16641,19730813,00.html" rel="nofollow">Gov. Anderson on the cover of Time magazine</a> with the caption &#8220;the Good Life in Minnesota&#8221; during State of the State speeches as if to say &#8220;We could have this again!&#8221;.  Sorry, but we are not all going to have it at this rate, only the few who can afford it.</p>
<p>There is nothing wrong with taxes if they are well spent.  Think of it like economy of scale.  There are places in Mexico were each block has to come up with the money to pave the street.  If they can&#8217;t come up with it their block stays dirt.  There are some streets the are paved, dirt, paved, etc.  In the end it costs more to pave the streets, that&#8217;s not a very efficient way of spending money.</p>
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