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		<title>By: Nitin</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/09/20/the-simple-dollar-guide-to-eating-out/comment-page-1/#comment-926342</link>
		<dc:creator>Nitin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Oct 2010 05:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Trent:  It is not good for digestion to drink water 1HR before and after your meals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Trent:  It is not good for digestion to drink water 1HR before and after your meals.</p>
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		<title>By: Maureen Thomson</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/09/20/the-simple-dollar-guide-to-eating-out/comment-page-1/#comment-925717</link>
		<dc:creator>Maureen Thomson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Sep 2010 14:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding the cash tip for the waitperson. I, too, always leave cash, but the reason is different. The restaurant has to pay a credit card processing percentage on anything it charges to my card. #1. Making the restaurant pay a fee on the gratuity for the waiter seems wrong. and #2. I don&#039;t want the restaurant management to use this fee as an excuse to take money out of the waiter&#039;s tip.

Pay the bill with a credit card, but tip in cash always!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding the cash tip for the waitperson. I, too, always leave cash, but the reason is different. The restaurant has to pay a credit card processing percentage on anything it charges to my card. #1. Making the restaurant pay a fee on the gratuity for the waiter seems wrong. and #2. I don&#8217;t want the restaurant management to use this fee as an excuse to take money out of the waiter&#8217;s tip.</p>
<p>Pay the bill with a credit card, but tip in cash always!</p>
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		<title>By: Amber</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/09/20/the-simple-dollar-guide-to-eating-out/comment-page-1/#comment-371197</link>
		<dc:creator>Amber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 10:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay I was reading these comments and I have worked as a server for 7 years now and at every restaurant I&#039;ve worked at. You are responsible for claiming anything over the 10 percent of sales that the company expects you to make. If anyone is defrauding the government it is because they are lying on a piece of paper or in my case a computer at the end of the night of how much they actually made. This means credit card tips as well as cash. In my company the management staff checks periodically that everyone is claiming a reasonable amount.  Most of us get our taxes back anyways because we don&#039;t make much money. Actually we do make a good amount of money hourly, but it is hard pressed-very much so to get more than 20 hours a week and that is if you are full time. Servers only serve during peak hours then most of the staff goes home that&#039;s about 3-5 hours a day. Remember most servers are not just servers. Most of us are college students or newly out of college and paying off loans. Not tipping us properly is akin to an employer not paying their employees for their time-not okay in this country. Oh and PS you have to be fairly intelligent to be a server and you certainly have to know how to multitask and hide true feelings behind a smile, so please don&#039;t talk down to your server she/he might be the doctor or lawyer you depend on later in life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay I was reading these comments and I have worked as a server for 7 years now and at every restaurant I&#8217;ve worked at. You are responsible for claiming anything over the 10 percent of sales that the company expects you to make. If anyone is defrauding the government it is because they are lying on a piece of paper or in my case a computer at the end of the night of how much they actually made. This means credit card tips as well as cash. In my company the management staff checks periodically that everyone is claiming a reasonable amount.  Most of us get our taxes back anyways because we don&#8217;t make much money. Actually we do make a good amount of money hourly, but it is hard pressed-very much so to get more than 20 hours a week and that is if you are full time. Servers only serve during peak hours then most of the staff goes home that&#8217;s about 3-5 hours a day. Remember most servers are not just servers. Most of us are college students or newly out of college and paying off loans. Not tipping us properly is akin to an employer not paying their employees for their time-not okay in this country. Oh and PS you have to be fairly intelligent to be a server and you certainly have to know how to multitask and hide true feelings behind a smile, so please don&#8217;t talk down to your server she/he might be the doctor or lawyer you depend on later in life.</p>
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		<title>By: MamawW</title>
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		<dc:creator>MamawW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 20:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since I often have much cash on me I ask the waitress or the pizza delivery guy do you get this tip. I like to use Discover get the credit on cash back and yes I pay the car in full each month.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since I often have much cash on me I ask the waitress or the pizza delivery guy do you get this tip. I like to use Discover get the credit on cash back and yes I pay the car in full each month.</p>
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		<title>By: Annie</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/09/20/the-simple-dollar-guide-to-eating-out/comment-page-1/#comment-114288</link>
		<dc:creator>Annie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 17:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;Christmas bonus&quot; restaurant made me suspicious, so I did a little research. The Department of Labor&#039;s Wages and Hourly Division website has a copy of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dol.gov/esa/regs/compliance/whd/mwposter_PF.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Fair Labor Standards Act&lt;/a&gt;, as well as a summary:
&quot;Tip Credit: Employers of &quot;tipped employees&quot; must pay a cash wage of at least $2.13 per hour if they claim a tip credit against their minimum wage obligation. &lt;b&gt;If an employee&#039;s tips combined with the employer&#039;s cash wage of at least $2.13 per hour do not equal the minimum hourly wage, the employer must make up the difference.&lt;/b&gt; Certain other conditions must also be met.&quot;

If the restaurant is taking ALL the tips, all the time, there&#039;s no way their waitstaff is making $6.20 an hour.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;Christmas bonus&#8221; restaurant made me suspicious, so I did a little research. The Department of Labor&#8217;s Wages and Hourly Division website has a copy of the <a href="http://www.dol.gov/esa/regs/compliance/whd/mwposter_PF.htm" rel="nofollow">Fair Labor Standards Act</a>, as well as a summary:<br />
&#8220;Tip Credit: Employers of &#8220;tipped employees&#8221; must pay a cash wage of at least $2.13 per hour if they claim a tip credit against their minimum wage obligation. <b>If an employee&#8217;s tips combined with the employer&#8217;s cash wage of at least $2.13 per hour do not equal the minimum hourly wage, the employer must make up the difference.</b> Certain other conditions must also be met.&#8221;</p>
<p>If the restaurant is taking ALL the tips, all the time, there&#8217;s no way their waitstaff is making $6.20 an hour.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/09/20/the-simple-dollar-guide-to-eating-out/comment-page-1/#comment-77363</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 22:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We eat out as a family fairly often, but never do chain restaurants, or high-end places either.

Just locally-owned restaurants, mostly ethnic (Indian, Chinese, Mexican. etc.) who serve food they actually eat, not exclusively &quot;Americanized&quot; versions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We eat out as a family fairly often, but never do chain restaurants, or high-end places either.</p>
<p>Just locally-owned restaurants, mostly ethnic (Indian, Chinese, Mexican. etc.) who serve food they actually eat, not exclusively &#8220;Americanized&#8221; versions.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/09/20/the-simple-dollar-guide-to-eating-out/comment-page-1/#comment-75874</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 13:35:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ralphie,

What the heck are you even talking about?  Talk about being off topic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ralphie,</p>
<p>What the heck are you even talking about?  Talk about being off topic.</p>
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		<title>By: Ralphie</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/09/20/the-simple-dollar-guide-to-eating-out/comment-page-1/#comment-75564</link>
		<dc:creator>Ralphie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 22:23:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ed,

Put a cork in it already.  There are systems in place to deal with wait staff and income taxes.  This is way ofd topic.  Perhaps you think waiters are terrorists too? ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed,</p>
<p>Put a cork in it already.  There are systems in place to deal with wait staff and income taxes.  This is way ofd topic.  Perhaps you think waiters are terrorists too? ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 10:57:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jen,

You offer even further proof that wait staff are stiffing the IRS (in effect everyone since that shortfall has to come from somewhere).  So the 2% or so of people that stiff you on a tip gives you the right to only pay tax on 8% of the rest of the tips?  What about those that pay more than 20%?  I love how people try to rationalize doing something illegal.  Get some ethics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jen,</p>
<p>You offer even further proof that wait staff are stiffing the IRS (in effect everyone since that shortfall has to come from somewhere).  So the 2% or so of people that stiff you on a tip gives you the right to only pay tax on 8% of the rest of the tips?  What about those that pay more than 20%?  I love how people try to rationalize doing something illegal.  Get some ethics.</p>
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		<title>By: jennifer</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/09/20/the-simple-dollar-guide-to-eating-out/comment-page-1/#comment-75080</link>
		<dc:creator>jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 23:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>as far as the taxes waiters pay and cheating the irs...i remember when i waited tables, i had to declare a certain percentage of my sales as tips (at the time it was 8%).  so, if someone stiffs you or tips you less...guess what? i still had to pay taxes on my sales!! so the people who tipped me cash at 15-20% helped make up for the people that didn&#039;t tip at all! also i didn&#039;t make minimum wage in the 10 years i waited tables--it was alway something like $2 and hour..it was assumed that tips would balance out your $2 hourly wage.  it&#039;s been about 8 years since i waitressed....not that much could have changed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as far as the taxes waiters pay and cheating the irs&#8230;i remember when i waited tables, i had to declare a certain percentage of my sales as tips (at the time it was 8%).  so, if someone stiffs you or tips you less&#8230;guess what? i still had to pay taxes on my sales!! so the people who tipped me cash at 15-20% helped make up for the people that didn&#8217;t tip at all! also i didn&#8217;t make minimum wage in the 10 years i waited tables&#8211;it was alway something like $2 and hour..it was assumed that tips would balance out your $2 hourly wage.  it&#8217;s been about 8 years since i waitressed&#8230;.not that much could have changed!</p>
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		<title>By: SwingCheese</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/09/20/the-simple-dollar-guide-to-eating-out/comment-page-1/#comment-75017</link>
		<dc:creator>SwingCheese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 20:38:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My husband worked in various facets of the restaurant industry for over a decade, and I can assure you that people do not always tip even 10%, let alone a customary 15-20%. I also have a friend living in a large city, supporting herself as a waitress, who recently received one $6 tip on a $96 bill, and received $140 on a bill for $133.75 and was told to &quot;Keep the Change&quot;. Stingy people are all over, and 99% of the time, the quality of the service is immaterial...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My husband worked in various facets of the restaurant industry for over a decade, and I can assure you that people do not always tip even 10%, let alone a customary 15-20%. I also have a friend living in a large city, supporting herself as a waitress, who recently received one $6 tip on a $96 bill, and received $140 on a bill for $133.75 and was told to &#8220;Keep the Change&#8221;. Stingy people are all over, and 99% of the time, the quality of the service is immaterial&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kat</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/09/20/the-simple-dollar-guide-to-eating-out/comment-page-1/#comment-74989</link>
		<dc:creator>Kat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 19:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mapgirl, I didn&#039;t have an issue with Trent, it was with a commenter who said they think waiters should cheat on their taxes.

Lisa,
I lived in Denmark for a year. They don&#039;t have tips. Because of this you got horrible serivce and you were still expected to round up the bill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mapgirl, I didn&#8217;t have an issue with Trent, it was with a commenter who said they think waiters should cheat on their taxes.</p>
<p>Lisa,<br />
I lived in Denmark for a year. They don&#8217;t have tips. Because of this you got horrible serivce and you were still expected to round up the bill.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/09/20/the-simple-dollar-guide-to-eating-out/comment-page-1/#comment-74954</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 18:54:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My point was to question why we have the whole tipping situation at all when other societies do not have it and the service is still wonderful. 

In addition, I pointed out that the common amount to tip is based on the total on the bill and NOT on the quality of the service (ie: why does the steak house gal get more in tips than the greasyspoon for working less?).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My point was to question why we have the whole tipping situation at all when other societies do not have it and the service is still wonderful. </p>
<p>In addition, I pointed out that the common amount to tip is based on the total on the bill and NOT on the quality of the service (ie: why does the steak house gal get more in tips than the greasyspoon for working less?).</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/09/20/the-simple-dollar-guide-to-eating-out/comment-page-1/#comment-74943</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 18:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Monica,

Hogwash, I was a waitress before I finished college and I took home $150 a night at Applebees on a light night for work that did not require a high school education.  

Tip based on how good the service and don&#039;t feel obligated to meet some society prescriped 15-20% standard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Monica,</p>
<p>Hogwash, I was a waitress before I finished college and I took home $150 a night at Applebees on a light night for work that did not require a high school education.  </p>
<p>Tip based on how good the service and don&#8217;t feel obligated to meet some society prescriped 15-20% standard.</p>
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		<title>By: Monica</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/09/20/the-simple-dollar-guide-to-eating-out/comment-page-1/#comment-74940</link>
		<dc:creator>Monica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 18:28:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m quite appalled by Lisa&#039;s statement of why should she tip at all! When I was waitressing, the restaurant took 10% of all of my SALES and reported it for tax purposes. That means that whenever someone skipped on a tip (which does happen frequently) or leaves a shady 5% tip, they&#039;re actually taking money out of my pocket. I&#039;m paying taxes on something that I didn&#039;t even receive. It was also my total SALES that put how much I should tip out to the bartender/bussers/hostess. What I was making in tips had very little to do with how much I tipped out. Some nights I came away with very little at the end of the night because I got next to nothing but was still expected to tip the other staff. So by taking a &quot;stray twenty&quot; on a generous cash tip was never a problem in our place. 

It&#039;s nice to see that people who have never worked in the restaurant business think they know how the system works everywhere. I wouldn&#039;t go to their workplace and assume that they&#039;re trying to rip their fellow employees off. If anyone were truly ripping other people off, it wouldn&#039;t take long for complaints to come through and for them to have to look for work elsewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m quite appalled by Lisa&#8217;s statement of why should she tip at all! When I was waitressing, the restaurant took 10% of all of my SALES and reported it for tax purposes. That means that whenever someone skipped on a tip (which does happen frequently) or leaves a shady 5% tip, they&#8217;re actually taking money out of my pocket. I&#8217;m paying taxes on something that I didn&#8217;t even receive. It was also my total SALES that put how much I should tip out to the bartender/bussers/hostess. What I was making in tips had very little to do with how much I tipped out. Some nights I came away with very little at the end of the night because I got next to nothing but was still expected to tip the other staff. So by taking a &#8220;stray twenty&#8221; on a generous cash tip was never a problem in our place. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s nice to see that people who have never worked in the restaurant business think they know how the system works everywhere. I wouldn&#8217;t go to their workplace and assume that they&#8217;re trying to rip their fellow employees off. If anyone were truly ripping other people off, it wouldn&#8217;t take long for complaints to come through and for them to have to look for work elsewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 18:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I prefer to pay via credit card to keep the servers honest with respect to the tip out (the percentage of money that goes to the runners, bussers, etc.)  I  know too many waiters who&#039;ll happily pocket a stray twenty on a generous tip.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I prefer to pay via credit card to keep the servers honest with respect to the tip out (the percentage of money that goes to the runners, bussers, etc.)  I  know too many waiters who&#8217;ll happily pocket a stray twenty on a generous tip.</p>
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		<title>By: mapgirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>mapgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 17:21:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Kat,

I think the point Trent is trying to make about cash tips is that when you pay for your tip with a credit or debit card, often your server will lose a portion of the tip to a transaction processing fee or shady management, and will thus receive less than you intended to leave them. He&#039;s trying to make sure that servers aren&#039;t screwed out of a share of their tips.

I doubt he was encouraging you to read into his remark any misreporting of income to the IRS. In fact, his entire section on cash tipping mentions nothing about taxes but discusses restaurant management.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Kat,</p>
<p>I think the point Trent is trying to make about cash tips is that when you pay for your tip with a credit or debit card, often your server will lose a portion of the tip to a transaction processing fee or shady management, and will thus receive less than you intended to leave them. He&#8217;s trying to make sure that servers aren&#8217;t screwed out of a share of their tips.</p>
<p>I doubt he was encouraging you to read into his remark any misreporting of income to the IRS. In fact, his entire section on cash tipping mentions nothing about taxes but discusses restaurant management.</p>
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		<title>By: Never the Same River Twice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Never the Same River Twice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 14:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For a truly decadent night out, I rarely order dessert in the restaurant I&#039;ve had dinner in. Very few great savory restaurants do great desserts.

Instead, I go to a dessert-only specialty place and spend another $8-$10 per person to die in chocolate heaven!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For a truly decadent night out, I rarely order dessert in the restaurant I&#8217;ve had dinner in. Very few great savory restaurants do great desserts.</p>
<p>Instead, I go to a dessert-only specialty place and spend another $8-$10 per person to die in chocolate heaven!</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/09/20/the-simple-dollar-guide-to-eating-out/comment-page-1/#comment-74878</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 14:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate the idea of tips, particularly the customary percentages that are used. The gal at Denny&#039;s works harder than the one at the steakhouse, yet 18% on a GrandSlam breakfast is nothing compared to 18% on the porterhouse &amp; wine bill.

Some other countries don&#039;t do the whole tipping at food establishments thing. One just expects proper service and just payment of the servers.

I never ask for anything special (no substitutions or anything), so why should I tip?

Yes, I do tip, but I go out to eat so rarely now days that when I do I am in a group of more than 6 or 8 so get stabbed with an automatic 18-20% tip anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate the idea of tips, particularly the customary percentages that are used. The gal at Denny&#8217;s works harder than the one at the steakhouse, yet 18% on a GrandSlam breakfast is nothing compared to 18% on the porterhouse &amp; wine bill.</p>
<p>Some other countries don&#8217;t do the whole tipping at food establishments thing. One just expects proper service and just payment of the servers.</p>
<p>I never ask for anything special (no substitutions or anything), so why should I tip?</p>
<p>Yes, I do tip, but I go out to eat so rarely now days that when I do I am in a group of more than 6 or 8 so get stabbed with an automatic 18-20% tip anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Erich</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/09/20/the-simple-dollar-guide-to-eating-out/comment-page-1/#comment-74850</link>
		<dc:creator>Erich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 13:48:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know about the laws in Iowa regarding tips, but here in Illinois, a restaurant collecting tips and not giving them back to the servers is illegal. 

For a long time I worked at a local tavern. We had a kitchen, and it was a very popular lunch spot. During lunch shifts all tips were collected into a big pool, and all staff was equally tipped out, including the kitchen staff. Everyone was pleased with this arrangement, it seemed fair to all of us, as kitchen staff and bar staff were interchangable.

One year the gov&#039;t did its semi-regular employment audit and told us we were in violation of the law in this tipping respect, since the employees felt that the sharing was a requirement, not a choice. It turns out that there are very specific legal rules for how tips are handled.

I can&#039;t remember the specifics, but the breakdown was something like this:

Servers can be required to share n% w/ bussers, and m% with host(esses), and x% of drink tips w/ bartenders.

Bartenders can be required to share n% w/ host(esses). And can be pooled by requirement.

Any other sharing is voluntary. So there was an all staff meeting about this, and the end result was an agreement to do sharing the way we had before. It was a unanimous thing except for one girl. She wanted what she made and all of it. Of course she didn&#039;t work there very long because no one would share w/ her and it turned out she ended up barely making minimum wage that way.

Anyway, I diverged from the point a bit which is:
Trent the instance of the christmas bonus restaurant may be in violation of labor laws. You should reccomend to a server there that they contact the govt, anonymously even, about that situation. It is an insult to the servers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know about the laws in Iowa regarding tips, but here in Illinois, a restaurant collecting tips and not giving them back to the servers is illegal. </p>
<p>For a long time I worked at a local tavern. We had a kitchen, and it was a very popular lunch spot. During lunch shifts all tips were collected into a big pool, and all staff was equally tipped out, including the kitchen staff. Everyone was pleased with this arrangement, it seemed fair to all of us, as kitchen staff and bar staff were interchangable.</p>
<p>One year the gov&#8217;t did its semi-regular employment audit and told us we were in violation of the law in this tipping respect, since the employees felt that the sharing was a requirement, not a choice. It turns out that there are very specific legal rules for how tips are handled.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t remember the specifics, but the breakdown was something like this:</p>
<p>Servers can be required to share n% w/ bussers, and m% with host(esses), and x% of drink tips w/ bartenders.</p>
<p>Bartenders can be required to share n% w/ host(esses). And can be pooled by requirement.</p>
<p>Any other sharing is voluntary. So there was an all staff meeting about this, and the end result was an agreement to do sharing the way we had before. It was a unanimous thing except for one girl. She wanted what she made and all of it. Of course she didn&#8217;t work there very long because no one would share w/ her and it turned out she ended up barely making minimum wage that way.</p>
<p>Anyway, I diverged from the point a bit which is:<br />
Trent the instance of the christmas bonus restaurant may be in violation of labor laws. You should reccomend to a server there that they contact the govt, anonymously even, about that situation. It is an insult to the servers.</p>
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