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	<title>Comments on: The One Hour Project: Thoroughly Research A Stock</title>
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		<title>By: Steven A. Carpenter</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/09/22/the-one-hour-project-thoroughly-research-a-stock/#comment-76869</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven A. Carpenter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 04:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Trent-

This is a great post on investing on a great site about managing your money better.  This thread shows how hard it is to invest wisely- way too hard.  I am the Founder and CEO of a new investing site called Cake Financial that aims to make it much easier than existing options.  It&#039;s secure and free and it allows all of us to do what we are doing here and collaborate in real time what we are all doing- without revealing any sensitive information like how much money we have.

Please check it out and let me know what you all think!

Best,

Steve]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trent-</p>
<p>This is a great post on investing on a great site about managing your money better.  This thread shows how hard it is to invest wisely- way too hard.  I am the Founder and CEO of a new investing site called Cake Financial that aims to make it much easier than existing options.  It&#8217;s secure and free and it allows all of us to do what we are doing here and collaborate in real time what we are all doing- without revealing any sensitive information like how much money we have.</p>
<p>Please check it out and let me know what you all think!</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Steve</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Lippard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Lippard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 20:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mrs. Micah:  I&#039;ve been very happy with Fidelity (and especially the Fidelity Diverse International Fund).  They also have some retirement funds that automatically change allocations over time as you approach retirement age, the Freedom xxxx Funds, where xxxx is your planned year of retirement.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mrs. Micah:  I&#8217;ve been very happy with Fidelity (and especially the Fidelity Diverse International Fund).  They also have some retirement funds that automatically change allocations over time as you approach retirement age, the Freedom xxxx Funds, where xxxx is your planned year of retirement.</p>
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		<title>By: Nate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 13:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Trent,

   Great post on an overview for individual stock investing.  If I could add a few things that would help a potential investor.  
   Read the 10-k and 10-q for the most recent year, skim the 10-k&#039;s for the last five years.  Read the auditor&#039;s letter first, then the footnotes, then the balance sheet/income statement/cash flow, then the MD&amp;A.  Look for changes in accounting methodology, or aggressive accounting.  Also a big red flag is a change in auditing firms.
   Another red flag is if in the presidents letter attached to the annual report the word &quot;challenging&quot; is mentioned three or more times. If so sell ASAP, no further research is needed.
   Next look at items like the debt/equity, free cash flow, long term commitments.  If possible go back five years or so to get a gauge of earnings quality.  
   If after all of this you still haven&#039;t ruled the company out determine the intrinsic value, and if you&#039;re comfortable purchasing the issue at the current sales price.
   If this seems like a lot of work it it..but then again there is real money on the line, so a few hours of work to save tens of thousands of dollars is worth it in my book.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trent,</p>
<p>   Great post on an overview for individual stock investing.  If I could add a few things that would help a potential investor.<br />
   Read the 10-k and 10-q for the most recent year, skim the 10-k&#8217;s for the last five years.  Read the auditor&#8217;s letter first, then the footnotes, then the balance sheet/income statement/cash flow, then the MD&amp;A.  Look for changes in accounting methodology, or aggressive accounting.  Also a big red flag is a change in auditing firms.<br />
   Another red flag is if in the presidents letter attached to the annual report the word &#8220;challenging&#8221; is mentioned three or more times. If so sell ASAP, no further research is needed.<br />
   Next look at items like the debt/equity, free cash flow, long term commitments.  If possible go back five years or so to get a gauge of earnings quality.<br />
   If after all of this you still haven&#8217;t ruled the company out determine the intrinsic value, and if you&#8217;re comfortable purchasing the issue at the current sales price.<br />
   If this seems like a lot of work it it..but then again there is real money on the line, so a few hours of work to save tens of thousands of dollars is worth it in my book.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob in Madrid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob in Madrid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 19:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If your interested in picking stocks you might want to check out Share Owner magazine (over at shareowner.com) my dad subscribed for a while but decided against investing in individual stocks. The stock selection guide teaches you how to select stocks .]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If your interested in picking stocks you might want to check out Share Owner magazine (over at shareowner.com) my dad subscribed for a while but decided against investing in individual stocks. The stock selection guide teaches you how to select stocks .</p>
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		<title>By: justin</title>
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		<dc:creator>justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 18:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wouldn&#039;t it be better to research investing in general, and just stick to index mutual funds?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wouldn&#8217;t it be better to research investing in general, and just stick to index mutual funds?</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 16:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another thing to focus on in your research is to find out the biggest risks to the company&#039;s profitability. There are obvious ones that apply to pretty much all companies and there are hidden ones that don&#039;t show up in casual research.

An example of an obvious one is debt. If a company is hugely in debt and interest payments are rising every year, that&#039;s a factor that you need to investigate -- are they taking on new debt and putting it to good use or are they sinking in it? It doesn&#039;t matter if it&#039;s an oil tanker company or a fast food company.

An example of a relatively hidden risk would be how interest rates affect utility companies. If you go read about a specific utility company, chances are you won&#039;t see them issue a big press release that says &quot;Our stock may fall quite a bit if the government raises interest rates.&quot; Why does it happen? Well it turns out a lot of people invest in utility companies just for the dividend, which is often several percent, for things like steady retirement income. When interest rates rise, people take their money out of utilities and put them in treasuries or high-yield savings accounts, and the stock falls. I don&#039;t know, maybe that&#039;s obvious to some people, but it wasn&#039;t to me!

This is why a lot of famous investors (Warren Buffet, Peter Lynch) tell you to buy what you already know. Casual research often won&#039;t give you enough information for you to know all of the risks, unless you already have background in that industry.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another thing to focus on in your research is to find out the biggest risks to the company&#8217;s profitability. There are obvious ones that apply to pretty much all companies and there are hidden ones that don&#8217;t show up in casual research.</p>
<p>An example of an obvious one is debt. If a company is hugely in debt and interest payments are rising every year, that&#8217;s a factor that you need to investigate &#8212; are they taking on new debt and putting it to good use or are they sinking in it? It doesn&#8217;t matter if it&#8217;s an oil tanker company or a fast food company.</p>
<p>An example of a relatively hidden risk would be how interest rates affect utility companies. If you go read about a specific utility company, chances are you won&#8217;t see them issue a big press release that says &#8220;Our stock may fall quite a bit if the government raises interest rates.&#8221; Why does it happen? Well it turns out a lot of people invest in utility companies just for the dividend, which is often several percent, for things like steady retirement income. When interest rates rise, people take their money out of utilities and put them in treasuries or high-yield savings accounts, and the stock falls. I don&#8217;t know, maybe that&#8217;s obvious to some people, but it wasn&#8217;t to me!</p>
<p>This is why a lot of famous investors (Warren Buffet, Peter Lynch) tell you to buy what you already know. Casual research often won&#8217;t give you enough information for you to know all of the risks, unless you already have background in that industry.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 14:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a great post but I urge people to be careful when using Wikipedia for research.  I don&#039;t deny that it is a wonderful source of information but, because it is a wiki, anyone can edit an article and add information that is incorrect.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great post but I urge people to be careful when using Wikipedia for research.  I don&#8217;t deny that it is a wonderful source of information but, because it is a wiki, anyone can edit an article and add information that is incorrect.</p>
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		<title>By: vh</title>
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		<dc:creator>vh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 13:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mrs. Micah...  I&#039;ve had both Vanguard &amp; Fidelity in my 403c, and also have an IRA with Fidelity and a Roth IRA and regular mutual funds w/ Vanguard, all on the advice of a financial advisor with an awesome track record. 

In the retirement fund business, Fidelity seems to serve its customer base a lot better than Vanguard. VG&#039;s statements were always late--sometimes I had to call up, navigate the annoying punchabutton phones, finally get a real person, &amp; beg them to send me a statement. After my employer dropped VG and I had to switch to Fidelity, I found Fidelity sends statements on time. 

In other contexts, Vanguard is great. But when you deal with VG through your employer&#039;s retirement plan, it&#039;s like an entirely different corporation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mrs. Micah&#8230;  I&#8217;ve had both Vanguard &amp; Fidelity in my 403c, and also have an IRA with Fidelity and a Roth IRA and regular mutual funds w/ Vanguard, all on the advice of a financial advisor with an awesome track record. </p>
<p>In the retirement fund business, Fidelity seems to serve its customer base a lot better than Vanguard. VG&#8217;s statements were always late&#8211;sometimes I had to call up, navigate the annoying punchabutton phones, finally get a real person, &amp; beg them to send me a statement. After my employer dropped VG and I had to switch to Fidelity, I found Fidelity sends statements on time. </p>
<p>In other contexts, Vanguard is great. But when you deal with VG through your employer&#8217;s retirement plan, it&#8217;s like an entirely different corporation.</p>
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		<title>By: FIRE Finance - Which Stock Market Indexes to Choose?</title>
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		<dc:creator>FIRE Finance - Which Stock Market Indexes to Choose?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 08:19:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A nice post on researching stocks by Trent! Our two cents - perhaps it would also help if we also spend some time to understand which stock index we need to follow, esp. when we are planning to buy index funds or ETFs. We found from experience that this an area where information is not so easily found!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A nice post on researching stocks by Trent! Our two cents &#8211; perhaps it would also help if we also spend some time to understand which stock index we need to follow, esp. when we are planning to buy index funds or ETFs. We found from experience that this an area where information is not so easily found!</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Stevens</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Stevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 08:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not actually sure Dong is correct.  In the aggregate, stocks have a better chance of going up than going down, but that doesn&#039;t mean that the majority of individual stocks go up.  It could just mean that the gains of winning stocks outweigh the losses of losing stocks.  I won&#039;t venture a guess as to what the percentages actually are, though.

In general, individual stock prices, in theory at least, are a &quot;random walk,&quot; if you buy the efficient market hypothesis.  The only objection I have to the 50% chance of going up figure is that the price does include an assumption that it will appreciate at at least the risk-free rate (i.e. whatever U.S. Treasuries are currently paying).  This doesn&#039;t necessarily mean that the chance of its going up is higher than 50%, only that its expected gains times the probability of gaining are higher than the expected losses times the probability of losses.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not actually sure Dong is correct.  In the aggregate, stocks have a better chance of going up than going down, but that doesn&#8217;t mean that the majority of individual stocks go up.  It could just mean that the gains of winning stocks outweigh the losses of losing stocks.  I won&#8217;t venture a guess as to what the percentages actually are, though.</p>
<p>In general, individual stock prices, in theory at least, are a &#8220;random walk,&#8221; if you buy the efficient market hypothesis.  The only objection I have to the 50% chance of going up figure is that the price does include an assumption that it will appreciate at at least the risk-free rate (i.e. whatever U.S. Treasuries are currently paying).  This doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean that the chance of its going up is higher than 50%, only that its expected gains times the probability of gaining are higher than the expected losses times the probability of losses.</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 03:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They might have more than a 50% chance of going up, but what&#039;s the chance of staying up? :)

The stock market is being artificially inflated right now by the Fed. They&#039;ll lower the fed funds rate again in October, but they can&#039;t keep that up for long. When they stop trying to prop up their banker friends, it&#039;ll be a bad time to be in the market.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They might have more than a 50% chance of going up, but what&#8217;s the chance of staying up? :)</p>
<p>The stock market is being artificially inflated right now by the Fed. They&#8217;ll lower the fed funds rate again in October, but they can&#8217;t keep that up for long. When they stop trying to prop up their banker friends, it&#8217;ll be a bad time to be in the market.</p>
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		<title>By: dong</title>
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		<dc:creator>dong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 03:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Amanda, actually stocks really have a better than 50% chance of going up - just the nature of the stock market and the nature of businesses growing, and the beauty of investing.  Otherwise, I agree I think investing in paper is great way to start.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amanda, actually stocks really have a better than 50% chance of going up &#8211; just the nature of the stock market and the nature of businesses growing, and the beauty of investing.  Otherwise, I agree I think investing in paper is great way to start.</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 01:44:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The best way to get started with individual stocks is to buy them - on paper. Make a stock-tracking spreadsheet, and track the price of stocks that you &quot;buy&quot; for a week or even longer. Notice the trends. Read up on techniques like technical analysis. Your picks have a 50% chance of going up, and a 50% chance of going down, all things being equal. The good stock picker gets a feeling for the market and is better able to choose those that will get up. That is, his portfolio might have a 60% chance of going up and a 40% chance of going down.

This is how I learned. Practice. It doesn&#039;t cost any money (initially) and it&#039;ll give you a decent feel for the market.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best way to get started with individual stocks is to buy them &#8211; on paper. Make a stock-tracking spreadsheet, and track the price of stocks that you &#8220;buy&#8221; for a week or even longer. Notice the trends. Read up on techniques like technical analysis. Your picks have a 50% chance of going up, and a 50% chance of going down, all things being equal. The good stock picker gets a feeling for the market and is better able to choose those that will get up. That is, his portfolio might have a 60% chance of going up and a 40% chance of going down.</p>
<p>This is how I learned. Practice. It doesn&#8217;t cost any money (initially) and it&#8217;ll give you a decent feel for the market.</p>
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		<title>By: Mrs. Micah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mrs. Micah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 01:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Indeed. If I&#039;m hired with my company and get to participate in their 401(k) plan, then I have to take Fidelity, not Vanguard like I want (unless I can find a loophole, maybe that&#039;ll be another 1 hour project). So perhaps I can find a good Fidelity index fund.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed. If I&#8217;m hired with my company and get to participate in their 401(k) plan, then I have to take Fidelity, not Vanguard like I want (unless I can find a loophole, maybe that&#8217;ll be another 1 hour project). So perhaps I can find a good Fidelity index fund.</p>
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		<title>By: Kay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 01:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Trent,
THis is great advice. I am reading so many stock references, its hard to pick out advice on a stock and how to research one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trent,<br />
THis is great advice. I am reading so many stock references, its hard to pick out advice on a stock and how to research one.</p>
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