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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/11/02/review-born-to-buy/comment-page-1/#comment-364397</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:17:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a great summary of the book.  I think the best thing I ever did was get rid of the TV.  We still have it to watch movies.  My little boy complained at first.  Now he doesn&#039;t care.  My three play outside, inside, everywhere.  They are very creative.  I encourage all parents to get rid of the cable!  If you don&#039;t have it it can&#039;t harm the kids.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great summary of the book.  I think the best thing I ever did was get rid of the TV.  We still have it to watch movies.  My little boy complained at first.  Now he doesn&#8217;t care.  My three play outside, inside, everywhere.  They are very creative.  I encourage all parents to get rid of the cable!  If you don&#8217;t have it it can&#8217;t harm the kids.</p>
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		<title>By: Young Investor</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/11/02/review-born-to-buy/comment-page-1/#comment-242707</link>
		<dc:creator>Young Investor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 05:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its amazing how much the advertising has infiltrated our lives.

Like when we think something ..is that something that we really thought on our own? Or something that was subliminally programed in us by all the advertising companies.

To think that this infiltration is being focused on kids as well. Young children, they are our future. Whatever they are .. is what the world will be in the future.

In order for a solid future you need people building it with strong values ... and well i just know now how good these values are that advertisers are teaching kids.

That right there is a very scary thought.

Young Investor

http://www.investmentrealty.blogspot.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its amazing how much the advertising has infiltrated our lives.</p>
<p>Like when we think something ..is that something that we really thought on our own? Or something that was subliminally programed in us by all the advertising companies.</p>
<p>To think that this infiltration is being focused on kids as well. Young children, they are our future. Whatever they are .. is what the world will be in the future.</p>
<p>In order for a solid future you need people building it with strong values &#8230; and well i just know now how good these values are that advertisers are teaching kids.</p>
<p>That right there is a very scary thought.</p>
<p>Young Investor</p>
<p><a href="http://www.investmentrealty.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.investmentrealty.blogspot.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Marcy</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/11/02/review-born-to-buy/comment-page-1/#comment-101356</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 17:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hiya
Well, I&#039;m sure to be considered a freak of nature but I was raised without a television in our home.We were allowed to watch videos( vetted by parents, of course) and allowed to play some video games( both quality and quantity seriously controlled). I&#039;m sure it&#039;s not a coincidence then, that my brother, sister and I grew up far more literate and comfortable with books, music lessons, singing, sports, playing outdoors, playing with friends and involved at school. When I went away to university at 19( that&#039;s how old you were in my province when you left) that was the first time I had unfettered access to television.  My mother still doesn&#039;t have a tv.She is an avid listener to CBC radio( which is like NPR for the Americans here) and so are my siblings and I. In fact, when I was getting my teaching degree, we often referred to some students as CBC kids- kids who were more literate and had parents who turned off the tube and the radio on, instead. My parents were Christians with deeply held convictions, and besides the negative messages some shows had, in their opinion, there was too much commericialism on tv.I think that was one of the greatest things my parents could have done for me- refuse to have a tv in the home.
Now, I don&#039;t live in the US( thank God) but I know their teachers are paid about as much as Walmart employees make here in Canada. And I know that there are stupid, hideous inequalities in the school system and you know what? As an educator, I could see how ads in schools could seem like a good solution to buy desperately needed textbooks. Ad money doesn&#039;t go to salaries. It goes to school supplies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hiya<br />
Well, I&#8217;m sure to be considered a freak of nature but I was raised without a television in our home.We were allowed to watch videos( vetted by parents, of course) and allowed to play some video games( both quality and quantity seriously controlled). I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s not a coincidence then, that my brother, sister and I grew up far more literate and comfortable with books, music lessons, singing, sports, playing outdoors, playing with friends and involved at school. When I went away to university at 19( that&#8217;s how old you were in my province when you left) that was the first time I had unfettered access to television.  My mother still doesn&#8217;t have a tv.She is an avid listener to CBC radio( which is like NPR for the Americans here) and so are my siblings and I. In fact, when I was getting my teaching degree, we often referred to some students as CBC kids- kids who were more literate and had parents who turned off the tube and the radio on, instead. My parents were Christians with deeply held convictions, and besides the negative messages some shows had, in their opinion, there was too much commericialism on tv.I think that was one of the greatest things my parents could have done for me- refuse to have a tv in the home.<br />
Now, I don&#8217;t live in the US( thank God) but I know their teachers are paid about as much as Walmart employees make here in Canada. And I know that there are stupid, hideous inequalities in the school system and you know what? As an educator, I could see how ads in schools could seem like a good solution to buy desperately needed textbooks. Ad money doesn&#8217;t go to salaries. It goes to school supplies.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 01:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sometimes I think we don&#039;t give kids the credit they deserve.  Despite all the pressure, as the parent you are the greatest influence on your children.  What you find as important, they will.  Ask them when they&#039;re watching TV why they put that sexy model next to a car, does she come with it?  Or if they already got the toy their advertising, ask them if it really is as &quot;cool&quot; or &quot;fun&quot; as they&#039;re showing it.  Do that every now and then and you&#039;ll be surprised how clear the message will become that the purpose of advertisement is to separate them from their money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes I think we don&#8217;t give kids the credit they deserve.  Despite all the pressure, as the parent you are the greatest influence on your children.  What you find as important, they will.  Ask them when they&#8217;re watching TV why they put that sexy model next to a car, does she come with it?  Or if they already got the toy their advertising, ask them if it really is as &#8220;cool&#8221; or &#8220;fun&#8221; as they&#8217;re showing it.  Do that every now and then and you&#8217;ll be surprised how clear the message will become that the purpose of advertisement is to separate them from their money.</p>
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		<title>By: Sharon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sharon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 14:21:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funding of schools is a complicated issue.  I also highly recommend &quot;Savage Inequalities&quot; to anyone who has an interest in the subject.  
I now teach in a &quot;poor&quot; school district and education suffers, not only because of money but also because of &quot;No Child Left Behind&quot;.  EVERYTHING is geared to the testing.  
I recently asked my students to write a 300-word rough draft.  At least 80% of my students freaked out.  After a couple of days of assurances and explanations, I figured it out. One of my students finally said &quot;Why didn&#039;t you ask for a five paragraph essay?  That is what all of our other teachers have done.&quot; 
Why have all the teachers asked for a five paragraph essay?  Because that is what is required on the official tests in my state.  Apparently there is no other reason to write, or read, or think besides the almighty end of senior year tests.  Because the entire school district is judged on those tests, the entire school district must be geared for those tests.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funding of schools is a complicated issue.  I also highly recommend &#8220;Savage Inequalities&#8221; to anyone who has an interest in the subject.<br />
I now teach in a &#8220;poor&#8221; school district and education suffers, not only because of money but also because of &#8220;No Child Left Behind&#8221;.  EVERYTHING is geared to the testing.<br />
I recently asked my students to write a 300-word rough draft.  At least 80% of my students freaked out.  After a couple of days of assurances and explanations, I figured it out. One of my students finally said &#8220;Why didn&#8217;t you ask for a five paragraph essay?  That is what all of our other teachers have done.&#8221;<br />
Why have all the teachers asked for a five paragraph essay?  Because that is what is required on the official tests in my state.  Apparently there is no other reason to write, or read, or think besides the almighty end of senior year tests.  Because the entire school district is judged on those tests, the entire school district must be geared for those tests.</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/11/02/review-born-to-buy/comment-page-1/#comment-99994</link>
		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Demetri, 

This is the reason I&#039;ve decided to give up reading these ridiculous blogs. They are simply fluff. 

Here is the quote from the begining of the article:
&quot;Introduction
The book opens with a historical perspective of the history of marketing, going back to the nascent days when children weren’t marketed to at all, forward to the period between World War I and World War II where marketing for child-targeted products were pitched at the parents, on to today where most advertising is targeted at children in some way or another.&quot;

My response was that marketing &amp; advertising have been around for hundreds of years. That includes marketing to children. If anyone would like to research that instead of simply accepting what people tell them is true (myself included), you will find a lengthy history on the subjects of ads &amp; marketing throughout the centuries that spans continents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Demetri, </p>
<p>This is the reason I&#8217;ve decided to give up reading these ridiculous blogs. They are simply fluff. </p>
<p>Here is the quote from the begining of the article:<br />
&#8220;Introduction<br />
The book opens with a historical perspective of the history of marketing, going back to the nascent days when children weren’t marketed to at all, forward to the period between World War I and World War II where marketing for child-targeted products were pitched at the parents, on to today where most advertising is targeted at children in some way or another.&#8221;</p>
<p>My response was that marketing &amp; advertising have been around for hundreds of years. That includes marketing to children. If anyone would like to research that instead of simply accepting what people tell them is true (myself included), you will find a lengthy history on the subjects of ads &amp; marketing throughout the centuries that spans continents.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/11/02/review-born-to-buy/comment-page-1/#comment-99976</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 19:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My wife and I raised two children to young adulthood and avoided the consumer blues by constantly ridiculing advertisements (&quot;that little girl is being forced to dress like a slut&quot;) and by examining the mechanics of manipulation with the kids; it&#039;s like exploring how a magic trick works - how the deception takes place.

And fortunately, Boomerang doesn&#039;t advertise anything except Cartoon Network. No toys, no clothes, no music. Thank you, Boomerang.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My wife and I raised two children to young adulthood and avoided the consumer blues by constantly ridiculing advertisements (&#8220;that little girl is being forced to dress like a slut&#8221;) and by examining the mechanics of manipulation with the kids; it&#8217;s like exploring how a magic trick works &#8211; how the deception takes place.</p>
<p>And fortunately, Boomerang doesn&#8217;t advertise anything except Cartoon Network. No toys, no clothes, no music. Thank you, Boomerang.</p>
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		<title>By: gin in hsv</title>
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		<dc:creator>gin in hsv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 15:25:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree that schools have to let advertisement in the schools to raise revenue. If schools would properly use the funds that they have and not waste them trying to indoctrinate our kids, instead of teaching them reading, writing, and math,they wouldn&#039;t need outside funding. Frankly, when I was in school, which was not that long ago, my parents did not get a list longer than your kid of materials that mom and dad had to provide such as: cleaning supplies for the teacher, paper towels and kleenex, art supplies, and the list gets longer every year. My niece is in the fourth grade and not only does she have to buy all of this additional materials other than paper, pencils, glue, and notebooks but they have to go in the community chest. Socialism in grade school. I would home school if I had a child of my own or they would be in private school. 

Our church has a school and produces some extremely well educated and well rounded kids. It is a third as expensive to send a kid through the church school as it is public school and they get a better education. More money is not the answer, more accountability is the answer for public schools. 

I spent time in the public school system and was appalled at the information that they thought appropriate to teach a child. More parents need to get involved in the school system, which is exactly what the school system does not want, to see what they are teaching. The text books are horrible revisionist drivel and the required reading is equally bad. I had a play that was required for 8th grade students with language in it, that if the student had used the same, would have landed them in in-school suspension or detention. 

Our children need protection and the best protection is to turn off the idiot box and get involved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree that schools have to let advertisement in the schools to raise revenue. If schools would properly use the funds that they have and not waste them trying to indoctrinate our kids, instead of teaching them reading, writing, and math,they wouldn&#8217;t need outside funding. Frankly, when I was in school, which was not that long ago, my parents did not get a list longer than your kid of materials that mom and dad had to provide such as: cleaning supplies for the teacher, paper towels and kleenex, art supplies, and the list gets longer every year. My niece is in the fourth grade and not only does she have to buy all of this additional materials other than paper, pencils, glue, and notebooks but they have to go in the community chest. Socialism in grade school. I would home school if I had a child of my own or they would be in private school. </p>
<p>Our church has a school and produces some extremely well educated and well rounded kids. It is a third as expensive to send a kid through the church school as it is public school and they get a better education. More money is not the answer, more accountability is the answer for public schools. </p>
<p>I spent time in the public school system and was appalled at the information that they thought appropriate to teach a child. More parents need to get involved in the school system, which is exactly what the school system does not want, to see what they are teaching. The text books are horrible revisionist drivel and the required reading is equally bad. I had a play that was required for 8th grade students with language in it, that if the student had used the same, would have landed them in in-school suspension or detention. </p>
<p>Our children need protection and the best protection is to turn off the idiot box and get involved.</p>
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		<title>By: J.D.</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/11/02/review-born-to-buy/comment-page-1/#comment-99604</link>
		<dc:creator>J.D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 04:27:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TRENT!

You are reading my mind again. I&#039;m working on a review of Buy, Buy Baby, which is about this very topic. Look for it on Tuesday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TRENT!</p>
<p>You are reading my mind again. I&#8217;m working on a review of Buy, Buy Baby, which is about this very topic. Look for it on Tuesday.</p>
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		<title>By: Toby</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/11/02/review-born-to-buy/comment-page-1/#comment-99518</link>
		<dc:creator>Toby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 01:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently read _Buy, Buy Baby: How Consumer Culture Manipulates Parents and Harms Young Minds_ by Susan Gregory Thomas does a great job a laying out how marketers are now targeting the 0-3 age range (even though they claim they don&#039;t).

I think I&#039;ll give this one a read and compare notes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently read _Buy, Buy Baby: How Consumer Culture Manipulates Parents and Harms Young Minds_ by Susan Gregory Thomas does a great job a laying out how marketers are now targeting the 0-3 age range (even though they claim they don&#8217;t).</p>
<p>I think I&#8217;ll give this one a read and compare notes.</p>
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		<title>By: lorax</title>
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		<dc:creator>lorax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 00:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to disagree with Chris and some others, and agree with Trent.  Teaching kids isn&#039;t cheap.  Teachers don&#039;t make vast sums of money.  The quality of schools from a poor district to a wealthy one is amazing.

In my area, a (religious) education comparable to public school is more expensive per year than our local tax bill.  (Some might think of religion as yet another form of ads.)

Perhaps schools should leave sports to the private sector and plow that funding into academics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to disagree with Chris and some others, and agree with Trent.  Teaching kids isn&#8217;t cheap.  Teachers don&#8217;t make vast sums of money.  The quality of schools from a poor district to a wealthy one is amazing.</p>
<p>In my area, a (religious) education comparable to public school is more expensive per year than our local tax bill.  (Some might think of religion as yet another form of ads.)</p>
<p>Perhaps schools should leave sports to the private sector and plow that funding into academics.</p>
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		<title>By: vh</title>
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		<dc:creator>vh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 22:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ditto that, SwingCheese.

Where exactly does one go to get paid 40 grand (or anything) to teach one high school class a day?  I have GOTTA move there (assuming it&#039;s not San Francisco, where 40 grand wouldn&#039;t rent a room to live in). 

Fulltime teachers in Arizona start in the 20s and teach five to seven classes a day and are expected to be there after school to meet with parents, supervise extracurricular activities, etc. etc. endlessly etc.  Those &quot;free&quot; (read &quot;unpaid&quot;) summers are spent in required professional development courses and workshops, and in preparing the next year&#039;s coursework.

On the university level, I taught four &amp; four every semester and earned 43 grand.  How am I glad I&#039;m not teaching anymore? Let me count the ways....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ditto that, SwingCheese.</p>
<p>Where exactly does one go to get paid 40 grand (or anything) to teach one high school class a day?  I have GOTTA move there (assuming it&#8217;s not San Francisco, where 40 grand wouldn&#8217;t rent a room to live in). </p>
<p>Fulltime teachers in Arizona start in the 20s and teach five to seven classes a day and are expected to be there after school to meet with parents, supervise extracurricular activities, etc. etc. endlessly etc.  Those &#8220;free&#8221; (read &#8220;unpaid&#8221;) summers are spent in required professional development courses and workshops, and in preparing the next year&#8217;s coursework.</p>
<p>On the university level, I taught four &amp; four every semester and earned 43 grand.  How am I glad I&#8217;m not teaching anymore? Let me count the ways&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: SwingCheese</title>
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		<dc:creator>SwingCheese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 20:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It drives me absolutely crazy when people (presumably) outside of education state with such certainty that public schools receive enough funding. The fact of the matter is that public schools receive very little of their funding from the federal government, around 10%. The rest of the funding comes from the state, and the lion&#039;s share of that comes from property taxes in the surrounding community. If your school is in a wealthy community, your school will have more money than a school in an area with a lower socio-economic level. If you really want to have your eyes opened to the sad state of some public school funding in our country, read anything by Jonathan Kozol (I especially recommend Savage Inequalities). 

While I don&#039;t agree with advertising in schools, and would be thrilled to see all the vending machines at our school disappear, I don&#039;t think it is fair to imply that schools are greedy, and want more than their allotted funding (which is apparently a wash anyway, as one of the above commenters seems to think that we are doing a very poor job of educating our students with the money we currently have). I can tell you from my experience as a public school teacher in a wealthier district that it was a fight to get new textbooks for my students this year (we had been using a set that was over a decade old, and the pedagogy had changed significantly in the passing time), and I spend a significant amount of my own resources to give what I feel is the best, and most useful information to my students. The way budgets are allocated within the school seems a mystery to those of us in the school, so I must imagine that those outside of the profession could be easily confused. However, a budget surpless in one area does not translate to money being allocated to a different area (i.e., if the science department has extra money, that money cannot be spent in the music department, no matter how much the music department might be lacking in supplies). Again, I don&#039;t think that advertising should be allowed in schools. I am, however, incensed at the opinion that public schools are already receiving more than their fair share of resources, and should work with what they have rather than search for extra funding. Compare the federal funding of education against the federal defense budget and tell me where you would assume our priorities lie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It drives me absolutely crazy when people (presumably) outside of education state with such certainty that public schools receive enough funding. The fact of the matter is that public schools receive very little of their funding from the federal government, around 10%. The rest of the funding comes from the state, and the lion&#8217;s share of that comes from property taxes in the surrounding community. If your school is in a wealthy community, your school will have more money than a school in an area with a lower socio-economic level. If you really want to have your eyes opened to the sad state of some public school funding in our country, read anything by Jonathan Kozol (I especially recommend Savage Inequalities). </p>
<p>While I don&#8217;t agree with advertising in schools, and would be thrilled to see all the vending machines at our school disappear, I don&#8217;t think it is fair to imply that schools are greedy, and want more than their allotted funding (which is apparently a wash anyway, as one of the above commenters seems to think that we are doing a very poor job of educating our students with the money we currently have). I can tell you from my experience as a public school teacher in a wealthier district that it was a fight to get new textbooks for my students this year (we had been using a set that was over a decade old, and the pedagogy had changed significantly in the passing time), and I spend a significant amount of my own resources to give what I feel is the best, and most useful information to my students. The way budgets are allocated within the school seems a mystery to those of us in the school, so I must imagine that those outside of the profession could be easily confused. However, a budget surpless in one area does not translate to money being allocated to a different area (i.e., if the science department has extra money, that money cannot be spent in the music department, no matter how much the music department might be lacking in supplies). Again, I don&#8217;t think that advertising should be allowed in schools. I am, however, incensed at the opinion that public schools are already receiving more than their fair share of resources, and should work with what they have rather than search for extra funding. Compare the federal funding of education against the federal defense budget and tell me where you would assume our priorities lie.</p>
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		<title>By: Kat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 19:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to LOVE commercials. LOVE LOVE LOVE them. I liked looking at how they were marketing items to people, although I didn&#039;t full understand marketing at the time. 
My parents limited our TV time and I really don&#039;t remember watching TV at friends homes either. Movies, yes, but no TV. We were always too busy playing outside or making forts or skating to care.

I disagree that ads are in schools for money due to the lack of government funding. As a child of a life long teacher, schools have plenty of money. What they do with it and who regulates it is another thing. A high school teacher making 40k a year to teach one class a day? Not such a good use of money or space or time.

Interesting fact: San Paulo recently banned all outdoor advertising. People can actually see the stars at night. Tells you how much advertising is really going on in the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to LOVE commercials. LOVE LOVE LOVE them. I liked looking at how they were marketing items to people, although I didn&#8217;t full understand marketing at the time.<br />
My parents limited our TV time and I really don&#8217;t remember watching TV at friends homes either. Movies, yes, but no TV. We were always too busy playing outside or making forts or skating to care.</p>
<p>I disagree that ads are in schools for money due to the lack of government funding. As a child of a life long teacher, schools have plenty of money. What they do with it and who regulates it is another thing. A high school teacher making 40k a year to teach one class a day? Not such a good use of money or space or time.</p>
<p>Interesting fact: San Paulo recently banned all outdoor advertising. People can actually see the stars at night. Tells you how much advertising is really going on in the world.</p>
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		<title>By: vh</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 19:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THANK YOU for your excellent review and for your subjective comments, every one of which (IMHO) is pretty much right on.

One of the scariest moments in my Life As a Mom came when my son (hang on to your hat) squawked when I tried to mute the volume on the ads during a TV program. At that moment, I was startled to learn the kid was using the remote to turn the volume UP on the ads!!!!!  Why? Because the advertising content was more interesting to him than the programming.

Drive down the street some day and count the number of ads you&#039;re presented with. If your errand is to the grocer&#039;s, don&#039;t forget to count the ads plastered on the grocery cart and the ads pumped into your ears on the PA system and the ads on your receipt and the coupons proposing to give you a discount on products you wouldn&#039;t otherwise buy. And if you have the radio on (even to NPR), remember to count the ads you hear on that. And consider that your kids hear and see all that and more (because they&#039;re exposed to the crassest kind of advertising in school). 

Mike also is right on when he says &quot;Isn’t it better to teach them to think critically about all the advertising images they see than to try to keep them away from advertising?&quot;  The only way the kids will be able to cope is to become aware that about 80% percent of the sensory information that enters their brains is designed to sell them something, and to help them learn how to cope with that.

Anyone for building a commune in the middle of the Gobi desert?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THANK YOU for your excellent review and for your subjective comments, every one of which (IMHO) is pretty much right on.</p>
<p>One of the scariest moments in my Life As a Mom came when my son (hang on to your hat) squawked when I tried to mute the volume on the ads during a TV program. At that moment, I was startled to learn the kid was using the remote to turn the volume UP on the ads!!!!!  Why? Because the advertising content was more interesting to him than the programming.</p>
<p>Drive down the street some day and count the number of ads you&#8217;re presented with. If your errand is to the grocer&#8217;s, don&#8217;t forget to count the ads plastered on the grocery cart and the ads pumped into your ears on the PA system and the ads on your receipt and the coupons proposing to give you a discount on products you wouldn&#8217;t otherwise buy. And if you have the radio on (even to NPR), remember to count the ads you hear on that. And consider that your kids hear and see all that and more (because they&#8217;re exposed to the crassest kind of advertising in school). </p>
<p>Mike also is right on when he says &#8220;Isn’t it better to teach them to think critically about all the advertising images they see than to try to keep them away from advertising?&#8221;  The only way the kids will be able to cope is to become aware that about 80% percent of the sensory information that enters their brains is designed to sell them something, and to help them learn how to cope with that.</p>
<p>Anyone for building a commune in the middle of the Gobi desert?</p>
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		<title>By: Beth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 18:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This book was a huge eye-opener for me. I&#039;m a child of the 1970s and thought that things couldn&#039;t have changed THAT much in the last 30-plus years. In fact they really have - marketers are making a concerted effort to sell to kids using tools that they may not be sophisticated enough to withstand. 

I agree that kids need to be taught to function in the world, but I also know that marketers do NOT have kids&#039; interests at heart, and are working hard to influence them. Adults need to be informed about the pressures being brought to bear on kids so they can help the kids make sense of it, and even shield them from it when possible. 

I highly recommend the book - it&#039;s downright shocking at how much things have changed since we were kids.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This book was a huge eye-opener for me. I&#8217;m a child of the 1970s and thought that things couldn&#8217;t have changed THAT much in the last 30-plus years. In fact they really have &#8211; marketers are making a concerted effort to sell to kids using tools that they may not be sophisticated enough to withstand. </p>
<p>I agree that kids need to be taught to function in the world, but I also know that marketers do NOT have kids&#8217; interests at heart, and are working hard to influence them. Adults need to be informed about the pressures being brought to bear on kids so they can help the kids make sense of it, and even shield them from it when possible. </p>
<p>I highly recommend the book &#8211; it&#8217;s downright shocking at how much things have changed since we were kids.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 18:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t want to seem contrary--since I essentially agree with Schor&#039;s main ideas as expertly outlined by Trent--but I think this commercial society is the world we and our children will continue to have to live in.  Isn&#039;t it better to teach them to think critically about all the advertising images they see than to try to keep them away from advertising?  

My middle-school-aged kids are wonderful about walking by displays in stores and saying, &quot;Look at how they are trying to sell that candy to little kids in those SpongeBob containers&quot; and &quot;Look, that picture is trying to convince us those ugly shoes are cool.&quot;  They are very savvy about the ways that advertising works, and we all laugh together at the crazy methods TV commercials use try to associate emotions with products.

I say limit kids&#039; exposure to a reasonable extent, but also teach kids to have some fun with pop culture.  We like Nickelodeon and even TV commercials.  &quot;Commercial&quot; culture can be a lot of fun if you have a sense of humor about it and understand how marketers try to manipulate people. 

Mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t want to seem contrary&#8211;since I essentially agree with Schor&#8217;s main ideas as expertly outlined by Trent&#8211;but I think this commercial society is the world we and our children will continue to have to live in.  Isn&#8217;t it better to teach them to think critically about all the advertising images they see than to try to keep them away from advertising?  </p>
<p>My middle-school-aged kids are wonderful about walking by displays in stores and saying, &#8220;Look at how they are trying to sell that candy to little kids in those SpongeBob containers&#8221; and &#8220;Look, that picture is trying to convince us those ugly shoes are cool.&#8221;  They are very savvy about the ways that advertising works, and we all laugh together at the crazy methods TV commercials use try to associate emotions with products.</p>
<p>I say limit kids&#8217; exposure to a reasonable extent, but also teach kids to have some fun with pop culture.  We like Nickelodeon and even TV commercials.  &#8220;Commercial&#8221; culture can be a lot of fun if you have a sense of humor about it and understand how marketers try to manipulate people. </p>
<p>Mike</p>
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		<title>By: Monica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 18:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I grew up without a TV in the house (and I was born in the late 70s, so this wasn&#039;t eons ago), and it&#039;s one of the factors that has the most contributed to me becoming an independent-minded and non-consuming-oriented person. No, your kids don&#039;t need Sesame Street to teach them their alphabet. I already knew how to read when I started kindergarten -- not because my parents deliberately taught me, but simply because they read to me a lot and I learned to follow along. Plus I learned my values from C.S. Lewis and Laura Ingalls Wilder rather than from Mattel and Hasbro and McDonald&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I grew up without a TV in the house (and I was born in the late 70s, so this wasn&#8217;t eons ago), and it&#8217;s one of the factors that has the most contributed to me becoming an independent-minded and non-consuming-oriented person. No, your kids don&#8217;t need Sesame Street to teach them their alphabet. I already knew how to read when I started kindergarten &#8212; not because my parents deliberately taught me, but simply because they read to me a lot and I learned to follow along. Plus I learned my values from C.S. Lewis and Laura Ingalls Wilder rather than from Mattel and Hasbro and McDonald&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: claymeadow</title>
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		<dc:creator>claymeadow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 17:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a lot of science/money is applied to marketing/advertising these days. the general consensus is that once a person reaches 35 years of age their ability to be swayed by ads diminishes greatly. so if the deck is stacked so deeply against people before 35 yrs then how can they have a fighting chance one may ask, well, once again, the answer lies in education. Inform people how to use their own brains much the way that marketers/advertisers have figured out how to use your brain for you. For instance, http://tinyurl.com/yw3q92 Consider this, what kid in the States at least does not know the golden arches symbol or the more than one billion served moto by the time they are three?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a lot of science/money is applied to marketing/advertising these days. the general consensus is that once a person reaches 35 years of age their ability to be swayed by ads diminishes greatly. so if the deck is stacked so deeply against people before 35 yrs then how can they have a fighting chance one may ask, well, once again, the answer lies in education. Inform people how to use their own brains much the way that marketers/advertisers have figured out how to use your brain for you. For instance, <a href="http://tinyurl.com/yw3q92" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/yw3q92</a> Consider this, what kid in the States at least does not know the golden arches symbol or the more than one billion served moto by the time they are three?</p>
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		<title>By: demetri</title>
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		<dc:creator>demetri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 17:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amanda- Just an FYI.  I think you misinterpreted what Trent wrote- I went back and re-read it to make sure I was right.  He was (and the book) talk about marketing to children directly.  Its not saying all marketing began last century.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amanda- Just an FYI.  I think you misinterpreted what Trent wrote- I went back and re-read it to make sure I was right.  He was (and the book) talk about marketing to children directly.  Its not saying all marketing began last century.</p>
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