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		<title>By: Kathryn</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/11/13/fun/comment-page-1/#comment-113021</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathryn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 13:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you ever think that people call you &quot;boring&quot; because they are jealous of where you are and where you are going?  There are some people out there who aren&#039;t happy unless everyone is worse off than they are.

I have always loved a challenge, and when my husband and I finally understood what debt was and where it was taking our WHOLE family, we dove into the challenge of getting debt free.  I seem to enjoy it more than he does, but I&#039;m around other people who are scratching towards debt freedom and he is around other people who are living in denial.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you ever think that people call you &#8220;boring&#8221; because they are jealous of where you are and where you are going?  There are some people out there who aren&#8217;t happy unless everyone is worse off than they are.</p>
<p>I have always loved a challenge, and when my husband and I finally understood what debt was and where it was taking our WHOLE family, we dove into the challenge of getting debt free.  I seem to enjoy it more than he does, but I&#8217;m around other people who are scratching towards debt freedom and he is around other people who are living in denial.</p>
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		<title>By: walleyegirl</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/11/13/fun/comment-page-1/#comment-110804</link>
		<dc:creator>walleyegirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:17:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Marta!  People hate it when you make an honest choice to improve yourself if it means doing something that others aren&#039;t going to do.  It makes them uneasy, and you become the outcast, until it&#039;s fashionable to behave in that manner.  It&#039;s very lemmingesque.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Marta!  People hate it when you make an honest choice to improve yourself if it means doing something that others aren&#8217;t going to do.  It makes them uneasy, and you become the outcast, until it&#8217;s fashionable to behave in that manner.  It&#8217;s very lemmingesque.</p>
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		<title>By: Linnea H</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/11/13/fun/comment-page-1/#comment-110498</link>
		<dc:creator>Linnea H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 06:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a PF bore. I like checking my budget, net worth, planning retirement savings and so on. I also enjoy frugal living and especially the results of it.

Another boring hobby is decluttering our home, trying to sell stuff or give to charity. 

Third hobby is to read about all of the above in books and on the net.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a PF bore. I like checking my budget, net worth, planning retirement savings and so on. I also enjoy frugal living and especially the results of it.</p>
<p>Another boring hobby is decluttering our home, trying to sell stuff or give to charity. </p>
<p>Third hobby is to read about all of the above in books and on the net.</p>
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		<title>By: Marta</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/11/13/fun/comment-page-1/#comment-109968</link>
		<dc:creator>Marta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post!!

I get the same reaction about my dietary choices as well as my financial choices. &quot;You don&#039;t want any cake? Oh come on, lighten up - it&#039;s just one piece.&quot; &quot;You&#039;re not coming to Happy Hour? Don&#039;t be such a stranger.&quot;

These types of comments and trying to justify your refusal every single time can really wear you down. It is a daily battle - fighting for a healthier future (mentally, physically, emotionally, financially) or giving in to temptation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post!!</p>
<p>I get the same reaction about my dietary choices as well as my financial choices. &#8220;You don&#8217;t want any cake? Oh come on, lighten up &#8211; it&#8217;s just one piece.&#8221; &#8220;You&#8217;re not coming to Happy Hour? Don&#8217;t be such a stranger.&#8221;</p>
<p>These types of comments and trying to justify your refusal every single time can really wear you down. It is a daily battle &#8211; fighting for a healthier future (mentally, physically, emotionally, financially) or giving in to temptation.</p>
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		<title>By: beloml</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/11/13/fun/comment-page-1/#comment-109926</link>
		<dc:creator>beloml</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:50:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dailygalaxy-dot-com has an interesting summary of research that found evidence that materialism goes hand-in-hand with low self esteem. I think that&#039;s a major factor in this discussion, and why money is such an emotional issue--why frugal people are branded as freaks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dailygalaxy-dot-com has an interesting summary of research that found evidence that materialism goes hand-in-hand with low self esteem. I think that&#8217;s a major factor in this discussion, and why money is such an emotional issue&#8211;why frugal people are branded as freaks.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/11/13/fun/comment-page-1/#comment-109888</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If someone obsessed over saving and/or maximizing their money is what someone else considers a &quot;freak&quot; then I&#039;m happy and proud to label myself a &quot;freak.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If someone obsessed over saving and/or maximizing their money is what someone else considers a &#8220;freak&#8221; then I&#8217;m happy and proud to label myself a &#8220;freak.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Deila</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/11/13/fun/comment-page-1/#comment-109783</link>
		<dc:creator>Deila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:57:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMG I must be boring as sin!  I love going over our finances every day!  I love seeing where I can cut a little here and a little there so that, at the end of the month, I can move even MORE $$$ into our savings, or have an extra $50 to invest into Prosper.

My biggest pet peeve with my husband was his constantly talking about buying a NEW car as soon as our old one was paid off.  Although it took me a while, he finally understood the benefits of keeping the car at LEAST 10 years, then, when the car is paid off, taking the car payments and putting them into a savings/investment plan.  

At the end of 10 years, IF the benefits of owning a new car outweighed the cost of keeping our old car, we could use the saved $$$ to buy a &#039;new&#039; (See:Pre-Owned) car outright!  NO interest on payments, NO finance charges.  Then, we could start the process all over again, but saving the $$$ in a smaller amount of time and having extra $$$ left over!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG I must be boring as sin!  I love going over our finances every day!  I love seeing where I can cut a little here and a little there so that, at the end of the month, I can move even MORE $$$ into our savings, or have an extra $50 to invest into Prosper.</p>
<p>My biggest pet peeve with my husband was his constantly talking about buying a NEW car as soon as our old one was paid off.  Although it took me a while, he finally understood the benefits of keeping the car at LEAST 10 years, then, when the car is paid off, taking the car payments and putting them into a savings/investment plan.  </p>
<p>At the end of 10 years, IF the benefits of owning a new car outweighed the cost of keeping our old car, we could use the saved $$$ to buy a &#8216;new&#8217; (See:Pre-Owned) car outright!  NO interest on payments, NO finance charges.  Then, we could start the process all over again, but saving the $$$ in a smaller amount of time and having extra $$$ left over!</p>
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		<title>By: Jenyfer</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/11/13/fun/comment-page-1/#comment-109768</link>
		<dc:creator>Jenyfer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we all agree that FL works; I think we all agree that it is easier to live the lifestyle if you have friends that live the same lifestyle.  All these others--they are the people I thank God for, because they make us look so much better!!  After all, if it wasn&#039;t for unfrugal fools, there wouldn&#039;t be a real recognization and appreciation of frugality, now, would there??  Wink wink, nudge nudge</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we all agree that FL works; I think we all agree that it is easier to live the lifestyle if you have friends that live the same lifestyle.  All these others&#8211;they are the people I thank God for, because they make us look so much better!!  After all, if it wasn&#8217;t for unfrugal fools, there wouldn&#8217;t be a real recognization and appreciation of frugality, now, would there??  Wink wink, nudge nudge</p>
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		<title>By: Rob in Madrid</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/11/13/fun/comment-page-1/#comment-109749</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob in Madrid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 11:02:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have friends and family that I really care about that are really struggling to keep their heads above water, but the moment I mention frugal living their eyes glaze over. They all want to be debt free but don&#039;t want to change anything, it&#039;s very frustrating for us. I don&#039;t understand why. FL has allowed us decrease our financial footprint from 105% to about 85-85% without a corresponding drop in our standard of living. I expect as we pay our debts off that will drop to about 50-55%. If anything removing the financial stress we were under has greatly improved our quality of life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have friends and family that I really care about that are really struggling to keep their heads above water, but the moment I mention frugal living their eyes glaze over. They all want to be debt free but don&#8217;t want to change anything, it&#8217;s very frustrating for us. I don&#8217;t understand why. FL has allowed us decrease our financial footprint from 105% to about 85-85% without a corresponding drop in our standard of living. I expect as we pay our debts off that will drop to about 50-55%. If anything removing the financial stress we were under has greatly improved our quality of life.</p>
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		<title>By: The Chef</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/11/13/fun/comment-page-1/#comment-109732</link>
		<dc:creator>The Chef</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Managing my finances is real fun, I realise this only after getting into a huge debt and now trying to get out of it after careful money management practices. Putting fun aside I feel living frugal to the extreme and taking huge risks for not having liquidity(for emergencies)in order to get out of debt is a kind of punishment for irresponsible use of money that i did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Managing my finances is real fun, I realise this only after getting into a huge debt and now trying to get out of it after careful money management practices. Putting fun aside I feel living frugal to the extreme and taking huge risks for not having liquidity(for emergencies)in order to get out of debt is a kind of punishment for irresponsible use of money that i did.</p>
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		<title>By: Jayne</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/11/13/fun/comment-page-1/#comment-109696</link>
		<dc:creator>Jayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 08:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find the whole question of &quot;Am I hanging out with interesting enough people?&quot; a sign of self-absorption. Everybody has something interesting about them if you will only look for it. 

Obviously we pick friends we enjoy, but the idea that people write off certain groups of people is kind of arrogant. What makes them think that they are so interesting, that they now possess the status to complain about others being boring?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find the whole question of &#8220;Am I hanging out with interesting enough people?&#8221; a sign of self-absorption. Everybody has something interesting about them if you will only look for it. </p>
<p>Obviously we pick friends we enjoy, but the idea that people write off certain groups of people is kind of arrogant. What makes them think that they are so interesting, that they now possess the status to complain about others being boring?</p>
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		<title>By: Heather</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/11/13/fun/comment-page-1/#comment-109664</link>
		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 07:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trent,

I was curious to know what kind of deal you got on your Wii. I am planning on saving up for one for the family and have no clue where to start.

Thank you,
~Heather</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trent,</p>
<p>I was curious to know what kind of deal you got on your Wii. I am planning on saving up for one for the family and have no clue where to start.</p>
<p>Thank you,<br />
~Heather</p>
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		<title>By: Steve O</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/11/13/fun/comment-page-1/#comment-109656</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 07:04:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S. My car is 13 years old.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S. My car is 13 years old.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve O</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/11/13/fun/comment-page-1/#comment-109654</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 07:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Watching your money grow should not be an end in itself, though it can be fun. Having financial independence = freedom. That&#039;s something you can truly celebrate. &quot;FU&quot; money is almost better than sex.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Watching your money grow should not be an end in itself, though it can be fun. Having financial independence = freedom. That&#8217;s something you can truly celebrate. &#8220;FU&#8221; money is almost better than sex.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/11/13/fun/comment-page-1/#comment-109651</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 06:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice post!  I enjoy tracking my finances as well.  I check my net worth everyday and its exciting to see if it goes up or down (preferrably up).  I then enjoy finding ways to either increase my assets and the rate of return on my assets.  So, you&#039;re right..it&#039;s not as boring as people think!

Jake
http://growyourassets.blogspot.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post!  I enjoy tracking my finances as well.  I check my net worth everyday and its exciting to see if it goes up or down (preferrably up).  I then enjoy finding ways to either increase my assets and the rate of return on my assets.  So, you&#8217;re right..it&#8217;s not as boring as people think!</p>
<p>Jake<br />
<a href="http://growyourassets.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://growyourassets.blogspot.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: JB</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/11/13/fun/comment-page-1/#comment-109599</link>
		<dc:creator>JB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 05:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too find calculating my net worth and paying myself first to be the most exciting parts of the month. Personal finance is a lifestyle and I would almost equate it to some of my friends hobbies. Except this hobby is about saving money and not spending it!

I used to be really into going to the mall, going ot movies and dining out before too. Now I splurge on purchases at the mall sometimes, have a Netflix account, and cook deliscious meals at home. For me, knowing that I could do all that stuff buy choose not to excessively is wonderful.

And yeah for beat up cars! When I first started driving my old car I too was kind of embarrased and was mentally counting my pennies until I too could get a shiny new vehicle! Then I realized that my beater is reliable, gets great mileage and saves me so much money with auto insurance and no car payments. Plus, since it&#039;s old I don&#039;t need to stress about a nick here or there or where I park in the lot. When I see a fancy car I too think &#039;I wonder how much there monthly payments&#039; are too. I now have enough money saved to buy a newly used vehicle cash when my beater dies...but they&#039;ll have to pry it away from me first!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too find calculating my net worth and paying myself first to be the most exciting parts of the month. Personal finance is a lifestyle and I would almost equate it to some of my friends hobbies. Except this hobby is about saving money and not spending it!</p>
<p>I used to be really into going to the mall, going ot movies and dining out before too. Now I splurge on purchases at the mall sometimes, have a Netflix account, and cook deliscious meals at home. For me, knowing that I could do all that stuff buy choose not to excessively is wonderful.</p>
<p>And yeah for beat up cars! When I first started driving my old car I too was kind of embarrased and was mentally counting my pennies until I too could get a shiny new vehicle! Then I realized that my beater is reliable, gets great mileage and saves me so much money with auto insurance and no car payments. Plus, since it&#8217;s old I don&#8217;t need to stress about a nick here or there or where I park in the lot. When I see a fancy car I too think &#8216;I wonder how much there monthly payments&#8217; are too. I now have enough money saved to buy a newly used vehicle cash when my beater dies&#8230;but they&#8217;ll have to pry it away from me first!</p>
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		<title>By: vh</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/11/13/fun/comment-page-1/#comment-109577</link>
		<dc:creator>vh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 04:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeez, I must be an awrfully boring nerd, because I find all the great ideas you come up with and your stories about your young family--really, a voyage of discovery that is just beginning--to be one heckuva lot of fun: and only the half of it, because the comments your readers contribute are about as much fun.

PF boring? Ohhhkaayyy... To each his(her)(our) own!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeez, I must be an awrfully boring nerd, because I find all the great ideas you come up with and your stories about your young family&#8211;really, a voyage of discovery that is just beginning&#8211;to be one heckuva lot of fun: and only the half of it, because the comments your readers contribute are about as much fun.</p>
<p>PF boring? Ohhhkaayyy&#8230; To each his(her)(our) own!</p>
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		<title>By: Sandy</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/11/13/fun/comment-page-1/#comment-109529</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 02:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wasted so much money in my past, but finally turned it all around and got out of debt, so being frugal is a way for me to stay out of debt.  My discovery is that it&#039;s actually fun and becomes addictive, but in a good way.  Now whenever I make a purchase, it is thoughtfully planned, so winds up being very satisfying.  I really enjoy living within my means, or below my means and not having credit card debt, and having an emergency fund, and a monthly savings toward future expenses.  I do find personal finance interesting and have read countless articles online about it, just to reinforce my mindset to stay responsible with my money and not overspend on random items, and never run up debt again.  It&#039;s so much more fun to earn interest than pay it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wasted so much money in my past, but finally turned it all around and got out of debt, so being frugal is a way for me to stay out of debt.  My discovery is that it&#8217;s actually fun and becomes addictive, but in a good way.  Now whenever I make a purchase, it is thoughtfully planned, so winds up being very satisfying.  I really enjoy living within my means, or below my means and not having credit card debt, and having an emergency fund, and a monthly savings toward future expenses.  I do find personal finance interesting and have read countless articles online about it, just to reinforce my mindset to stay responsible with my money and not overspend on random items, and never run up debt again.  It&#8217;s so much more fun to earn interest than pay it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/11/13/fun/comment-page-1/#comment-109525</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 02:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article, Trent.  I&#039;m constantly amazed at the great topics you are able to come up with every day.

When I went to graduate school 20 years ago (at a certain well-known writing program in your state), I asked a visiting writer what advice she had for young writers.  She said, &quot;Make friends with real working people.  Don&#039;t just hang out with grad students.&quot;

I didn&#039;t know it then, but that was some of the best advice I ever received.  I now have a network of working-class friends all across the country, many of whom are much more fun, and interesting (as well as more frugal) than some of the professionals I work with.  Many people with big incomes and lifestyles have enormous debt, anxiety, and thus have no choice but to put their careers ahead of nearly everything else.

I treasure all the &quot;real&quot; people of modest means I know out there.  I think Kim&#039;s perspective above is excellent for anyone just starting out in life.

By the way, Trent, I think you seem like a very fun person, judging from the engaging way you use words to inspire your readers.  I don&#039;t know how you manage to be so prolific.

Mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article, Trent.  I&#8217;m constantly amazed at the great topics you are able to come up with every day.</p>
<p>When I went to graduate school 20 years ago (at a certain well-known writing program in your state), I asked a visiting writer what advice she had for young writers.  She said, &#8220;Make friends with real working people.  Don&#8217;t just hang out with grad students.&#8221;</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t know it then, but that was some of the best advice I ever received.  I now have a network of working-class friends all across the country, many of whom are much more fun, and interesting (as well as more frugal) than some of the professionals I work with.  Many people with big incomes and lifestyles have enormous debt, anxiety, and thus have no choice but to put their careers ahead of nearly everything else.</p>
<p>I treasure all the &#8220;real&#8221; people of modest means I know out there.  I think Kim&#8217;s perspective above is excellent for anyone just starting out in life.</p>
<p>By the way, Trent, I think you seem like a very fun person, judging from the engaging way you use words to inspire your readers.  I don&#8217;t know how you manage to be so prolific.</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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		<title>By: SJean</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 01:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t most of your readers find personal finance interesting?  I am surprised that this happens so often.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t most of your readers find personal finance interesting?  I am surprised that this happens so often.</p>
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