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	<title>Comments on: The &#8220;It&#8221; Toy from the Perspective of a Parent</title>
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		<title>By: Schwamie</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/12/06/the-it-toy-from-the-perspective-of-a-parent/#comment-404869</link>
		<dc:creator>Schwamie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While my daughter has not been restricted from watching television, she has been taught from a very early age the value of a dollar.  She has always received an allowance and was able to spend it on what she saw fit ($2 a week).  The challenge for her was to either save up enough for the toy herself (with the holiday and birthday time being the exception if it fell into a price range below $20).  She was told that she would only receive one &quot;special&quot; gift during the two times mentioned previously.  She quickly learned that if she didn&#039;t have the money then she couldn&#039;t get the toy.  She has also been introduced to lay-away.  We have found a few shops that are willing to do this.  She would find an item that she wanted and would make payments towards it and when she paid it off, she would then get the toy.  She quickly learned that even if she wanted to &quot;change her mind&quot;, she was stuck in an agreement to buy the toy on lay-away.  Now she is 10 and only buys toys that she knows she will play with, especially when she is having to spend her money on them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While my daughter has not been restricted from watching television, she has been taught from a very early age the value of a dollar.  She has always received an allowance and was able to spend it on what she saw fit ($2 a week).  The challenge for her was to either save up enough for the toy herself (with the holiday and birthday time being the exception if it fell into a price range below $20).  She was told that she would only receive one &#8220;special&#8221; gift during the two times mentioned previously.  She quickly learned that if she didn&#8217;t have the money then she couldn&#8217;t get the toy.  She has also been introduced to lay-away.  We have found a few shops that are willing to do this.  She would find an item that she wanted and would make payments towards it and when she paid it off, she would then get the toy.  She quickly learned that even if she wanted to &#8220;change her mind&#8221;, she was stuck in an agreement to buy the toy on lay-away.  Now she is 10 and only buys toys that she knows she will play with, especially when she is having to spend her money on them.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 18:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great post! I totally agree with your point of view. I follow the old saying, &#039;all things in moderation.&#039; There is nothing wrong with &#039;it&#039; toys, in moderation.

I was raised in a household where we didn&#039;t buy &#039;it&#039; toys. It did nothing to help teach me about value or frugality. I will not buy my children every popular item they ask for, but I will use their birthdays and Christmas as times to show them generosity by giving them what they want, (well, some of the things they want). 

To teach generosity you have to first show it. As children get older they also begin to understand hard work, saving, investing, etc, if they are given the proper example. I think if we reserve items like &#039;it&#039; toys for special occasions, and ONLY purchase them when we can afford to we are teaching our children a valuable lesson.

Of course kids are going to want things of little value, so do I sometimes. I want to teach my children that it&#039;s alright to splurge every now and then, even if the item only brings momentary pleasure, (as long as it isn&#039;t inherently dangerous). One of the rewards of working hard and living frugally is the freedom to occasionally blow money on items with no long term return.

All things in moderation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post! I totally agree with your point of view. I follow the old saying, &#8216;all things in moderation.&#8217; There is nothing wrong with &#8216;it&#8217; toys, in moderation.</p>
<p>I was raised in a household where we didn&#8217;t buy &#8216;it&#8217; toys. It did nothing to help teach me about value or frugality. I will not buy my children every popular item they ask for, but I will use their birthdays and Christmas as times to show them generosity by giving them what they want, (well, some of the things they want). </p>
<p>To teach generosity you have to first show it. As children get older they also begin to understand hard work, saving, investing, etc, if they are given the proper example. I think if we reserve items like &#8216;it&#8217; toys for special occasions, and ONLY purchase them when we can afford to we are teaching our children a valuable lesson.</p>
<p>Of course kids are going to want things of little value, so do I sometimes. I want to teach my children that it&#8217;s alright to splurge every now and then, even if the item only brings momentary pleasure, (as long as it isn&#8217;t inherently dangerous). One of the rewards of working hard and living frugally is the freedom to occasionally blow money on items with no long term return.</p>
<p>All things in moderation.</p>
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		<title>By: suz</title>
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		<dc:creator>suz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 22:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[An excellent post (agreed 100%) and so many great comments, I just hope I can guide my child with this much wisdom and patience.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An excellent post (agreed 100%) and so many great comments, I just hope I can guide my child with this much wisdom and patience.</p>
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		<title>By: turbogeek</title>
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		<dc:creator>turbogeek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 23:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[VH:  &quot;Really? Do marketers and manufacturers REALLY have a right to target and manipulate small children? Do the REALLY have a right to play on parents’ feelings for their children (one of which, let’s admit it, everyone, is guilt!) to make avid little consumers out of the kiddies?&quot; ... &quot;In retrospect, we merrily bought him every gotta-have-it toy that came out. Maybe if we had taught him that he did not have to possess and do everything the rest of the kids wanted, he would have been better prepared to resist the quite deliberate commercial manipulation of peer pressure when his friends offered him that first cigarette.&quot;

I am so sorry your child is in the trap of tobacco.  I was as well for 19 years.  It&#039;s tough, but he can quit.  You can help.  Every tim he smokes, and you know about it, and say nothing, you are repeating the reinforcement that it is okay.

Yes, the marketers have the right to target kids.  Also, YES, I have the right to turn the TV off in my home, take my kids home, and tell my kids &quot;NO&quot;.  It&#039;s my house.  I&#039;m the Dad.  Kids will only learn to be as strong as their parents.  Be strong for your child.  Tell them &#039;NO&#039;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VH:  &#8220;Really? Do marketers and manufacturers REALLY have a right to target and manipulate small children? Do the REALLY have a right to play on parents’ feelings for their children (one of which, let’s admit it, everyone, is guilt!) to make avid little consumers out of the kiddies?&#8221; &#8230; &#8220;In retrospect, we merrily bought him every gotta-have-it toy that came out. Maybe if we had taught him that he did not have to possess and do everything the rest of the kids wanted, he would have been better prepared to resist the quite deliberate commercial manipulation of peer pressure when his friends offered him that first cigarette.&#8221;</p>
<p>I am so sorry your child is in the trap of tobacco.  I was as well for 19 years.  It&#8217;s tough, but he can quit.  You can help.  Every tim he smokes, and you know about it, and say nothing, you are repeating the reinforcement that it is okay.</p>
<p>Yes, the marketers have the right to target kids.  Also, YES, I have the right to turn the TV off in my home, take my kids home, and tell my kids &#8220;NO&#8221;.  It&#8217;s my house.  I&#8217;m the Dad.  Kids will only learn to be as strong as their parents.  Be strong for your child.  Tell them &#8216;NO&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Monica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 21:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Samanatha, That&#039;s right, all advertising directed at children under 13 is completely prohibited under the Quebec Consumer Protection Act. Apparently if the treatment is not designed to appeal to children&#039;s tastes, there can be advertising of children&#039;s products directed to adults as long as it&#039;s not during children&#039;s programs. I haven&#039;t ever actually seen an ad for a toy on Quebec TV though, so I don&#039;t know whether they actually exist.

I don&#039;t know anyone with young children, so I&#039;m not sure to what extent this helps with lessening the hype for &quot;it&quot; toys. Certainly all the same toys are available here as elsewhere. It probably has a greater effect on French-speaking children, since anglo children will also be watching TV broadcasts that originate from outside Quebec.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Samanatha, That&#8217;s right, all advertising directed at children under 13 is completely prohibited under the Quebec Consumer Protection Act. Apparently if the treatment is not designed to appeal to children&#8217;s tastes, there can be advertising of children&#8217;s products directed to adults as long as it&#8217;s not during children&#8217;s programs. I haven&#8217;t ever actually seen an ad for a toy on Quebec TV though, so I don&#8217;t know whether they actually exist.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know anyone with young children, so I&#8217;m not sure to what extent this helps with lessening the hype for &#8220;it&#8221; toys. Certainly all the same toys are available here as elsewhere. It probably has a greater effect on French-speaking children, since anglo children will also be watching TV broadcasts that originate from outside Quebec.</p>
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		<title>By: M3isMe</title>
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		<dc:creator>M3isMe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 15:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Trent,
Homeschooling doesn&#039;t keep your kids from knowing what other kids have...trust me on this!!  As for the &quot;it&quot; toy, my 8-year old, my 11-year old and my 16-year old have all been raised to think through advertising (what are they saying, &quot;If you drink this beer, you will get a gorgeous blonde girlfriend with big boobs?&quot;), to understand the purpose of advertising (to get you to buy the product), and to read the fine print on ads like another poster mentioned (we love reading the diet ads &quot;results not typical&quot; as a quick example of misleading advertising).  They also are in charge of their own birthday money, etc.  This has made for some educated buyers.  The 16-year old eschews &quot;it&quot; clothes in favor of clothes that look nice for a lot less money, but loves his Nintendo DS Lite; the 11-year old has buyers-remorse for a Lego purchase he made because, after spending $40 of lawn-mowing money on the kit, he realized he got a few hours of enjoyment out of putting the thing together (&quot;Mom, I wish I had just bought Legos from eBay...who cares about the kit.); and the 8-year old truly, truly loves her American Girl doll (vs. a Target knock-off), but is thrilled with Target clothes for her.  We do lead by example...our cars are for us, our house is for us, and our clothes are for us.  We discuss purchases ahead of time in front of the kids (from how much we spend on groceries to what we might do to the house).  My point:  You don&#039;t have to respond to advertising...overt or subliminal.  We&#039;re all aware it is there...it is our choice to buy into it or not.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trent,<br />
Homeschooling doesn&#8217;t keep your kids from knowing what other kids have&#8230;trust me on this!!  As for the &#8220;it&#8221; toy, my 8-year old, my 11-year old and my 16-year old have all been raised to think through advertising (what are they saying, &#8220;If you drink this beer, you will get a gorgeous blonde girlfriend with big boobs?&#8221;), to understand the purpose of advertising (to get you to buy the product), and to read the fine print on ads like another poster mentioned (we love reading the diet ads &#8220;results not typical&#8221; as a quick example of misleading advertising).  They also are in charge of their own birthday money, etc.  This has made for some educated buyers.  The 16-year old eschews &#8220;it&#8221; clothes in favor of clothes that look nice for a lot less money, but loves his Nintendo DS Lite; the 11-year old has buyers-remorse for a Lego purchase he made because, after spending $40 of lawn-mowing money on the kit, he realized he got a few hours of enjoyment out of putting the thing together (&#8220;Mom, I wish I had just bought Legos from eBay&#8230;who cares about the kit.); and the 8-year old truly, truly loves her American Girl doll (vs. a Target knock-off), but is thrilled with Target clothes for her.  We do lead by example&#8230;our cars are for us, our house is for us, and our clothes are for us.  We discuss purchases ahead of time in front of the kids (from how much we spend on groceries to what we might do to the house).  My point:  You don&#8217;t have to respond to advertising&#8230;overt or subliminal.  We&#8217;re all aware it is there&#8230;it is our choice to buy into it or not.</p>
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		<title>By: tightwadfan</title>
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		<dc:creator>tightwadfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 10:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I still hate the &quot;it&quot; toy phenomenon. I hate seeing people act like crazed animals, pushing and shoving in a frenzy to get this year&#039;s toy, while the news crews film them, and the marketers laugh all the way to the bank. I will never join that mob. 

I never wanted any of the it toys growing up so I never saw my parents lose their dignity like that, but I would have lost so much respect for them if I had seen them acting like the people on the news. Even paying an inflated price on eBay is going too far.

Each time parents fall for the &quot;it&quot; toy scam, they are just giving positive reinforcement to the marketers that manufacture the hype.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still hate the &#8220;it&#8221; toy phenomenon. I hate seeing people act like crazed animals, pushing and shoving in a frenzy to get this year&#8217;s toy, while the news crews film them, and the marketers laugh all the way to the bank. I will never join that mob. </p>
<p>I never wanted any of the it toys growing up so I never saw my parents lose their dignity like that, but I would have lost so much respect for them if I had seen them acting like the people on the news. Even paying an inflated price on eBay is going too far.</p>
<p>Each time parents fall for the &#8220;it&#8221; toy scam, they are just giving positive reinforcement to the marketers that manufacture the hype.</p>
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		<title>By: !wanda</title>
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		<dc:creator>!wanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 06:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There&#039;s logic I&#039;m missing here.  If gifts are supposed to come from Santa, why should kids care if they cost money or are difficult to get?  My mom made it very clear that things cost money, that it was good to save money, and that Santa was fictional, so I didn&#039;t like getting random fun things for Christmas because it meant my parents weren&#039;t saving money.  But if Santa can magically give other children Wiis, why can&#039;t he give your child a Wii?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s logic I&#8217;m missing here.  If gifts are supposed to come from Santa, why should kids care if they cost money or are difficult to get?  My mom made it very clear that things cost money, that it was good to save money, and that Santa was fictional, so I didn&#8217;t like getting random fun things for Christmas because it meant my parents weren&#8217;t saving money.  But if Santa can magically give other children Wiis, why can&#8217;t he give your child a Wii?</p>
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		<title>By: Hanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 04:55:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;I can point out to him that that toy wasn’t very fun after all and it becomes a very useful lesson in how marketing works.&lt;/i&gt;

I had to chuckle a bit at this.  You are a new parent so that is something you can say.  But, as a parent with three kids (4 - 11), I can tell you that this lesson is lost on them.  

They got the toy.  They got the momentary joy of having the &quot;in&quot; thing, which will hook them better than any drug.  It is no different than an adult who buys the newest &quot;in&quot; tech toy.  They can tell themselves that it was bad financial decision but does feel &lt;b&gt;so&lt;/b&gt; good for a little while to know that you were the envy of your peers.  

Have you read the recent study on how we humans get a more of a thrill if we know we are better off than our peers?   

If our child insists that want an &quot;in&quot; toy, we offer to split the cost (whether through allowance or extra chores).  It is amazing how quickly children suddenly are not subject to marketing when they have to pay for it.  Even as young as 3.  

And if they do agree, and the toy turns out to be a dud... well, then there is a lesson in the waste of it.  Or if the toy is well used, I learn a lesson that maybe the &quot;it&quot; toy was something they really wanted.

The reason I feel the need to chuckle at your comment is because I have been there... a young parent who is sure that their child will understand the waste without paying for it.  If you think this, you have been pulled into yet another marketing ploy. 

The problem is that without paying fr it, children can see no negative in the waste.  If the toy is not interesting after they get it... ah, well, that is ok.  They will get another &quot;it&quot; gift at the next gift giving holiday...

Combating marketing is a proactive thing, not a reactive thing.  If you are reactive, the marketing industry has won and they got your dollar (or 10... or 20... or 30...)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I can point out to him that that toy wasn’t very fun after all and it becomes a very useful lesson in how marketing works.</i></p>
<p>I had to chuckle a bit at this.  You are a new parent so that is something you can say.  But, as a parent with three kids (4 &#8211; 11), I can tell you that this lesson is lost on them.  </p>
<p>They got the toy.  They got the momentary joy of having the &#8220;in&#8221; thing, which will hook them better than any drug.  It is no different than an adult who buys the newest &#8220;in&#8221; tech toy.  They can tell themselves that it was bad financial decision but does feel <b>so</b> good for a little while to know that you were the envy of your peers.  </p>
<p>Have you read the recent study on how we humans get a more of a thrill if we know we are better off than our peers?   </p>
<p>If our child insists that want an &#8220;in&#8221; toy, we offer to split the cost (whether through allowance or extra chores).  It is amazing how quickly children suddenly are not subject to marketing when they have to pay for it.  Even as young as 3.  </p>
<p>And if they do agree, and the toy turns out to be a dud&#8230; well, then there is a lesson in the waste of it.  Or if the toy is well used, I learn a lesson that maybe the &#8220;it&#8221; toy was something they really wanted.</p>
<p>The reason I feel the need to chuckle at your comment is because I have been there&#8230; a young parent who is sure that their child will understand the waste without paying for it.  If you think this, you have been pulled into yet another marketing ploy. </p>
<p>The problem is that without paying fr it, children can see no negative in the waste.  If the toy is not interesting after they get it&#8230; ah, well, that is ok.  They will get another &#8220;it&#8221; gift at the next gift giving holiday&#8230;</p>
<p>Combating marketing is a proactive thing, not a reactive thing.  If you are reactive, the marketing industry has won and they got your dollar (or 10&#8230; or 20&#8230; or 30&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: PiFreak</title>
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		<dc:creator>PiFreak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 04:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hah! Pokemon!
I remember that phase well.
I never really got the point of it.  There was, however, one card that I wanted.  It was a firey unicorn, and almost everyone had one, so it wasn&#039;t even a rare card.  I waited until someone was selling all their cards (100 or so) for about 20 bucks.  I offered him a quarter for the card, and was totally thrilled for about four months... then the school year ended and the fad ended.  All in all, the &quot;It&quot; card was worth it.  I ended up selling it the next year for a dime, so for 4 months of being really happy, I spent 15 cents.... definately a good investment.
That whole rant was basically agreeing with the whole &quot;find out the reasons&quot; thing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hah! Pokemon!<br />
I remember that phase well.<br />
I never really got the point of it.  There was, however, one card that I wanted.  It was a firey unicorn, and almost everyone had one, so it wasn&#8217;t even a rare card.  I waited until someone was selling all their cards (100 or so) for about 20 bucks.  I offered him a quarter for the card, and was totally thrilled for about four months&#8230; then the school year ended and the fad ended.  All in all, the &#8220;It&#8221; card was worth it.  I ended up selling it the next year for a dime, so for 4 months of being really happy, I spent 15 cents&#8230;. definately a good investment.<br />
That whole rant was basically agreeing with the whole &#8220;find out the reasons&#8221; thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Samantha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Samantha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 21:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[(@Kay: LOL at the derisive smirk from son!
 
@vh:  yes, manufacturers do have that right to make their product seem cool and neat. So long as they don&#039;t say it flies and walks the dog when it doesn&#039;t. Those hyped commercials are a good opportunity for a parent to interject their comments on them to their children.  Sometimes your voice as a parent is small, but repetition works! And even if it doesn&#039;t, the children will learn by their own experience (my parents sure didn&#039;t sit me down to explain consumerism or interject their comments during my &quot;kiddie&quot; shows as a child) but the more hyped something is, the more likely I am to ignore it until it&#039;s old. 

@Monica:  No TV ads directed at Children? Do they have &quot;it&quot; toys in Quebec? Are the ads for them directed at their parents? (*finds this fascinating*)

Speaking of what to say to children, I remember my son wanting an &quot;it&quot; toy when he was about 6 or 7.  I asked him if he was SURE that the toy was as great as the commercial said it was and he said, &quot;I guess so.. that&#039;s what they said on TV.&quot;  Hahahah!  I took the opportunity to tell him that commercials are made by the people who want to sell the toy and take your money.  Sometimes they make it sound more fun than it is to &quot;trick&quot; you into buying it so they get your money. Later, he and his sister, 3 years younger, were watching TV and a toy commercial came on... Sister said, &quot;I want that!&quot;  Brother said, &quot;It&#039;s not really that fun.  They&#039;re trying to trick you!!&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(@Kay: LOL at the derisive smirk from son!</p>
<p>@vh:  yes, manufacturers do have that right to make their product seem cool and neat. So long as they don&#8217;t say it flies and walks the dog when it doesn&#8217;t. Those hyped commercials are a good opportunity for a parent to interject their comments on them to their children.  Sometimes your voice as a parent is small, but repetition works! And even if it doesn&#8217;t, the children will learn by their own experience (my parents sure didn&#8217;t sit me down to explain consumerism or interject their comments during my &#8220;kiddie&#8221; shows as a child) but the more hyped something is, the more likely I am to ignore it until it&#8217;s old. </p>
<p>@Monica:  No TV ads directed at Children? Do they have &#8220;it&#8221; toys in Quebec? Are the ads for them directed at their parents? (*finds this fascinating*)</p>
<p>Speaking of what to say to children, I remember my son wanting an &#8220;it&#8221; toy when he was about 6 or 7.  I asked him if he was SURE that the toy was as great as the commercial said it was and he said, &#8220;I guess so.. that&#8217;s what they said on TV.&#8221;  Hahahah!  I took the opportunity to tell him that commercials are made by the people who want to sell the toy and take your money.  Sometimes they make it sound more fun than it is to &#8220;trick&#8221; you into buying it so they get your money. Later, he and his sister, 3 years younger, were watching TV and a toy commercial came on&#8230; Sister said, &#8220;I want that!&#8221;  Brother said, &#8220;It&#8217;s not really that fun.  They&#8217;re trying to trick you!!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Monica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 19:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here in Quebec there is no TV advertising directed at children, which I am sure I would be really happy about if I were a parent.

I was young at the time of the Cabbage Patch craze and I neither asked for nor received one. That Christmas my parents gave me a quality German-made doll. I think it was a far better present.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here in Quebec there is no TV advertising directed at children, which I am sure I would be really happy about if I were a parent.</p>
<p>I was young at the time of the Cabbage Patch craze and I neither asked for nor received one. That Christmas my parents gave me a quality German-made doll. I think it was a far better present.</p>
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		<title>By: Plan Your Escape</title>
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		<dc:creator>Plan Your Escape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 18:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for clarifying your views Trent. As a soon-to-be-father I&#039;m going to be taking a lot more interest in consumerism as it relates to children. Thanks for the &quot;Born to Buy&quot; suggestion too ... I&#039;ve just requested it from the local library.

Peter]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for clarifying your views Trent. As a soon-to-be-father I&#8217;m going to be taking a lot more interest in consumerism as it relates to children. Thanks for the &#8220;Born to Buy&#8221; suggestion too &#8230; I&#8217;ve just requested it from the local library.</p>
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		<title>By: Kay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 18:28:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Carrying on Gena&#039;s theme of educating children about marketing, at the risk of going out on a tangent: I was so proud yesterday when my teenager lunged for the TiVo  pause button so that he could try to read the fine print at the end of a home equity loan commercial.  Toy ads don&#039;t impress him anymore and the &quot;Xtreme!&quot; marketing targeted at his demo brings nothing but a derisive smirk, so we&#039;ve started discussing car financing, loan, and credit card commercials as they appear.  We watched one and I asked him if he thought it sounded like a good deal (&quot;sure&quot;) and then we looked at the fine print, which clearly indicated the interest charge of over 1200%.  No typo.  We did the math and now he gets a kick out of finding other advertisers that take advantage of desperate, gullible people.

Bottom line: Your child will be the target of marketing for his entire life.  You won&#039;t always be able to shield him from it, but you can give him the skills to evaluate hype vs value.  Our boy will find an MP3 player under the tree this year, as he requested, and I&#039;m glad that we can be sure he won&#039;t start whining because it isn&#039;t an iPod... and he&#039;ll enjoy a 6 month music subscription we bought with the savings off the trendy product, too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carrying on Gena&#8217;s theme of educating children about marketing, at the risk of going out on a tangent: I was so proud yesterday when my teenager lunged for the TiVo  pause button so that he could try to read the fine print at the end of a home equity loan commercial.  Toy ads don&#8217;t impress him anymore and the &#8220;Xtreme!&#8221; marketing targeted at his demo brings nothing but a derisive smirk, so we&#8217;ve started discussing car financing, loan, and credit card commercials as they appear.  We watched one and I asked him if he thought it sounded like a good deal (&#8220;sure&#8221;) and then we looked at the fine print, which clearly indicated the interest charge of over 1200%.  No typo.  We did the math and now he gets a kick out of finding other advertisers that take advantage of desperate, gullible people.</p>
<p>Bottom line: Your child will be the target of marketing for his entire life.  You won&#8217;t always be able to shield him from it, but you can give him the skills to evaluate hype vs value.  Our boy will find an MP3 player under the tree this year, as he requested, and I&#8217;m glad that we can be sure he won&#8217;t start whining because it isn&#8217;t an iPod&#8230; and he&#8217;ll enjoy a 6 month music subscription we bought with the savings off the trendy product, too.</p>
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		<title>By: vh</title>
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		<dc:creator>vh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 18:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great discussion!

&quot;I defend the right of marketers and manufacturer’s to try to build the aura of “it” for their products but I equally defend my right, as a mother, to keep my children from being exposed to the media that encourages “it” toys. &quot;

Really? Do marketers and manufacturers REALLY have a right to target and manipulate small children? Do the REALLY have a right to play on parents&#039; feelings for their children (one of which, let&#039;s admit it, everyone, is guilt!) to  make avid little consumers out of the kiddies? Do they REALLY  have a right to come into your home (your car, your shopping places, your schools, your...you name it, you can&#039;t get away from aggressive advertising) to inject themselves into your family dynamics so that they can make money on you and your kids?

I don&#039;t think so. There&#039;s something about &quot;It&quot; marketing frenzies that moves past crassness and reaches immorality.

If you think you can educate your children to resist marketing forces, maybe you should think again.  All the time my son was growing up, I tried to discourage him from smoking, and every time we saw an ad I pointed out what was wrong with it, so that yup, he could see through hype.  I told him the tobacco peddlers murdered my mother and my father, and that the reason he never met his grandmother is that she died of cancer nine months before he was born. When he was old enough to understand and not be unduly frightened, I explained to him that I still grieved for my mother because of the truly hideous way she died, twenty or thirty years before her time.

He started smoking at 19. He&#039;s now 30. He still smokes. He has tried several times to kick the addiction, but he has failed each time. Because he works for an insurance company and understands the financial implications of divulging the existence of this habit, he refuses to go to doctors, because he is afraid to have any hint that he smokes appear in records available to health insurors. 

He certainly recognized hype. It didn&#039;t do him a bit of good.

In retrospect, we merrily bought him every gotta-have-it toy that came out. Maybe if we had taught him that he did not have to possess and do everything the rest of the kids wanted, he would have been better prepared to resist the quite deliberate commercial manipulation of peer pressure when his friends offered him that first cigarette.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great discussion!</p>
<p>&#8220;I defend the right of marketers and manufacturer’s to try to build the aura of “it” for their products but I equally defend my right, as a mother, to keep my children from being exposed to the media that encourages “it” toys. &#8221;</p>
<p>Really? Do marketers and manufacturers REALLY have a right to target and manipulate small children? Do the REALLY have a right to play on parents&#8217; feelings for their children (one of which, let&#8217;s admit it, everyone, is guilt!) to  make avid little consumers out of the kiddies? Do they REALLY  have a right to come into your home (your car, your shopping places, your schools, your&#8230;you name it, you can&#8217;t get away from aggressive advertising) to inject themselves into your family dynamics so that they can make money on you and your kids?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think so. There&#8217;s something about &#8220;It&#8221; marketing frenzies that moves past crassness and reaches immorality.</p>
<p>If you think you can educate your children to resist marketing forces, maybe you should think again.  All the time my son was growing up, I tried to discourage him from smoking, and every time we saw an ad I pointed out what was wrong with it, so that yup, he could see through hype.  I told him the tobacco peddlers murdered my mother and my father, and that the reason he never met his grandmother is that she died of cancer nine months before he was born. When he was old enough to understand and not be unduly frightened, I explained to him that I still grieved for my mother because of the truly hideous way she died, twenty or thirty years before her time.</p>
<p>He started smoking at 19. He&#8217;s now 30. He still smokes. He has tried several times to kick the addiction, but he has failed each time. Because he works for an insurance company and understands the financial implications of divulging the existence of this habit, he refuses to go to doctors, because he is afraid to have any hint that he smokes appear in records available to health insurors. </p>
<p>He certainly recognized hype. It didn&#8217;t do him a bit of good.</p>
<p>In retrospect, we merrily bought him every gotta-have-it toy that came out. Maybe if we had taught him that he did not have to possess and do everything the rest of the kids wanted, he would have been better prepared to resist the quite deliberate commercial manipulation of peer pressure when his friends offered him that first cigarette.</p>
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		<title>By: Dana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 18:13:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think the best thing about your blog is that you accept criticism, even rambling incoherent criticism, gracefully.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the best thing about your blog is that you accept criticism, even rambling incoherent criticism, gracefully.</p>
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		<title>By: Gena</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 17:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The thing that spoke to me in this post was the idea that kids be educated about marketing. My boys are 8 and 10, old enough to understand that the commercial&#039;s job is to get them to buy the toy, and they&#039;re starting to take a more critical eye after being let down by a couple of hyped cool toys. However, friends and pressure to fit in play are already beginning to play a role in their play choices. Witness the Pokemon phenomenon. Both of my kids are starting to realize that the cards don&#039;t really make them happy, but in wanting to fit in with other kids, they buy into the cards as a means of having common interests/dialog. The desire to fit in with peers, even at this age, is intense.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing that spoke to me in this post was the idea that kids be educated about marketing. My boys are 8 and 10, old enough to understand that the commercial&#8217;s job is to get them to buy the toy, and they&#8217;re starting to take a more critical eye after being let down by a couple of hyped cool toys. However, friends and pressure to fit in play are already beginning to play a role in their play choices. Witness the Pokemon phenomenon. Both of my kids are starting to realize that the cards don&#8217;t really make them happy, but in wanting to fit in with other kids, they buy into the cards as a means of having common interests/dialog. The desire to fit in with peers, even at this age, is intense.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 16:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great post and really insightful comments.  This site consistently provides useful information and discussions.  Thanks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post and really insightful comments.  This site consistently provides useful information and discussions.  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: The Financial Philosopher</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/12/06/the-it-toy-from-the-perspective-of-a-parent/#comment-126584</link>
		<dc:creator>The Financial Philosopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 15:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When children ask for certain toys, it presents a wonderful opportunity to discuss the value of money.  If the toy is a &quot;large&quot; expense, then parents can discuss a &quot;plan&quot; to earn and save for the toy.  Perhaps the parent could offer to &quot;match&quot; the child&#039;s savings dollor for dollar.  It may take months to save for the item but the child will learn the value of money...

Regarding commercialism, it is not difficult to minimize.  Personally, I do not have cable and the primary source of television is public broadcasting, which is largely free of advertising.  Also, my wife and I set our kids&#039; expectations:  They know they will not receive anything they ask for...  

As for entertainment, my children enjoy video games that are free on the internet.

For my six-year old, my wife and I have found that &quot;plug and play&quot; games are fun and inexpensive.  A Wii system, plus games, will cost hundreds of dollars.  A &quot;plug and play&quot; (found at Wal-Mart and Target) costs $20 or less...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When children ask for certain toys, it presents a wonderful opportunity to discuss the value of money.  If the toy is a &#8220;large&#8221; expense, then parents can discuss a &#8220;plan&#8221; to earn and save for the toy.  Perhaps the parent could offer to &#8220;match&#8221; the child&#8217;s savings dollor for dollar.  It may take months to save for the item but the child will learn the value of money&#8230;</p>
<p>Regarding commercialism, it is not difficult to minimize.  Personally, I do not have cable and the primary source of television is public broadcasting, which is largely free of advertising.  Also, my wife and I set our kids&#8217; expectations:  They know they will not receive anything they ask for&#8230;  </p>
<p>As for entertainment, my children enjoy video games that are free on the internet.</p>
<p>For my six-year old, my wife and I have found that &#8220;plug and play&#8221; games are fun and inexpensive.  A Wii system, plus games, will cost hundreds of dollars.  A &#8220;plug and play&#8221; (found at Wal-Mart and Target) costs $20 or less&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 15:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I limited my now 11-year-old daughter&#039;s exposure to TV when she was young (we substituted DVDs) and her desires for toys were based on trips to the toy store and sometimes from friends. As soon as she started watching televisio, however, you could see the effect of advertising as she &quot;had to have&quot; the toys that were advertised. That started an ongoing discussion about what advertising is and how it affects the viewer and today she&#039;s is able to watch commercials with at least some objectivity. Hopefully that will continue to grow with time, especially if I&#039;m doing my job as a parent.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I limited my now 11-year-old daughter&#8217;s exposure to TV when she was young (we substituted DVDs) and her desires for toys were based on trips to the toy store and sometimes from friends. As soon as she started watching televisio, however, you could see the effect of advertising as she &#8220;had to have&#8221; the toys that were advertised. That started an ongoing discussion about what advertising is and how it affects the viewer and today she&#8217;s is able to watch commercials with at least some objectivity. Hopefully that will continue to grow with time, especially if I&#8217;m doing my job as a parent.</p>
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