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		<title>By: Sylvia</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/12/30/review-take-back-your-time/#comment-145583</link>
		<dc:creator>Sylvia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 14:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think about time poverty a great deal.  Especially as I watch the life of my oldest daughter who is a CPA. Yes, people have always had to work hard in other eras of time but they did it as a family.  Today, families are often very dissected.  It is a horrible situation.  So I think doing some serious thinking about slowing our lives down in this 21st century is very important.  I&#039;m very glad you did a blog on this issue.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think about time poverty a great deal.  Especially as I watch the life of my oldest daughter who is a CPA. Yes, people have always had to work hard in other eras of time but they did it as a family.  Today, families are often very dissected.  It is a horrible situation.  So I think doing some serious thinking about slowing our lives down in this 21st century is very important.  I&#8217;m very glad you did a blog on this issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan S.</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/12/30/review-take-back-your-time/#comment-145116</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 00:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is the first time I&#039;ve heard the term &quot;time poverty&quot; but I can understand it fully. Working a couple of jobs, training for a marathon and a century bike ride, and having a family life, in addition to trying to get a blog ramped up has caused some time poverty here. I&#039;ll go look this one up!
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Ryan
http://uncommon-cents.net/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the first time I&#8217;ve heard the term &#8220;time poverty&#8221; but I can understand it fully. Working a couple of jobs, training for a marathon and a century bike ride, and having a family life, in addition to trying to get a blog ramped up has caused some time poverty here. I&#8217;ll go look this one up!<br />
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Ryan<br />
<a href="http://uncommon-cents.net/" rel="nofollow">http://uncommon-cents.net/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Stevens</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/12/30/review-take-back-your-time/#comment-145064</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Stevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 23:00:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Whether Americans are working harder than 30 years ago is actually a very contentious issue.  It is true that surveys seem to show this (though it&#039;s really only women who are working longer hours according to CPS studies, men have stayed pretty much the same), but time diary studies seem to show the opposite.  (See &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/business/july-dec99/overwork_9-6.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this discussion&lt;/a&gt;, sadly a bit of a puff piece on the issue, for details.  I don&#039;t actually know who&#039;s right and it doesn&#039;t really matter in the context of this book.  The main thrust of the book seems to be that to the extent that we are overworked, it&#039;s due to our own choices and we can make different choices, which we can all probably agree with.

The point of the 30 hour work week, by the by, was to reduce the unemployment rate during the Great Depression, and had very little to do with any sense that people were spending too much time at work.

From a truly global and historical perspective, actually, time poverty was (and is) far, far more common than in 21st century America.  You&#039;re focusing almost exclusively on 20th and 21st century industrialized countries, rather than the actual bulk of people in the world or in history: subsistence farmers, housewives with enormous domestic responsibilities (and no labor-saving devices), etc.  (See the PBS special The 1900 House, for example, in which the modern family who had to live like a 1900 family was reduced to tears by the amount of work it required.)  In the 1800s, the average work week in America was between sixty and seventy hours a week.  There were certain occupations which worked less than this (e.g. coal miners), but only because you couldn&#039;t physically push a man to work more hours doing such an arduous job.  The average hours slowly declined until the 1930s and has not changed &lt;i&gt;substantially&lt;/i&gt; since then, regardless of whether you agree with the surveys or the time diary studies.  Each one is only showing a difference of a few hours per week, maximum.  

There never was a Golden Age; it&#039;s just an illusion.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whether Americans are working harder than 30 years ago is actually a very contentious issue.  It is true that surveys seem to show this (though it&#8217;s really only women who are working longer hours according to CPS studies, men have stayed pretty much the same), but time diary studies seem to show the opposite.  (See <a href="http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/business/july-dec99/overwork_9-6.html" rel="nofollow">this discussion</a>, sadly a bit of a puff piece on the issue, for details.  I don&#8217;t actually know who&#8217;s right and it doesn&#8217;t really matter in the context of this book.  The main thrust of the book seems to be that to the extent that we are overworked, it&#8217;s due to our own choices and we can make different choices, which we can all probably agree with.</p>
<p>The point of the 30 hour work week, by the by, was to reduce the unemployment rate during the Great Depression, and had very little to do with any sense that people were spending too much time at work.</p>
<p>From a truly global and historical perspective, actually, time poverty was (and is) far, far more common than in 21st century America.  You&#8217;re focusing almost exclusively on 20th and 21st century industrialized countries, rather than the actual bulk of people in the world or in history: subsistence farmers, housewives with enormous domestic responsibilities (and no labor-saving devices), etc.  (See the PBS special The 1900 House, for example, in which the modern family who had to live like a 1900 family was reduced to tears by the amount of work it required.)  In the 1800s, the average work week in America was between sixty and seventy hours a week.  There were certain occupations which worked less than this (e.g. coal miners), but only because you couldn&#8217;t physically push a man to work more hours doing such an arduous job.  The average hours slowly declined until the 1930s and has not changed <i>substantially</i> since then, regardless of whether you agree with the surveys or the time diary studies.  Each one is only showing a difference of a few hours per week, maximum.  </p>
<p>There never was a Golden Age; it&#8217;s just an illusion.</p>
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		<title>By: KellyKelly</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/12/30/review-take-back-your-time/#comment-145051</link>
		<dc:creator>KellyKelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 22:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Joel,

Why did getting out of debt mean you had to give your dog away?

How much does it cost to feed and otherwise care for a dog?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joel,</p>
<p>Why did getting out of debt mean you had to give your dog away?</p>
<p>How much does it cost to feed and otherwise care for a dog?</p>
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		<title>By: guinness416</title>
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		<dc:creator>guinness416</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 22:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gayle, that sounds really bizarre to me.  Personally I detest it when co-workers drag themselves into the office coughing and spluttering or exhausted, and the workplaces that encourage this nonsense.  Sick people have no productivity, are a distraction, and make everyone else ill.  As an aside, the equally crazy American concept of a finite number of sick days per annum is always a source of enormous amusement to my (Irish) family.

I just finished reading the excellent &quot;Downshifting&quot; per Trent&#039;s recommendation and found some of the low-risk downshifting ideas in that book really good (taking all lunches outside the office/not eating at your desk, scheduling personal activities on outlook calendars and with admin staff, making it known you won&#039;t be working weekends, etc).  I will be implementing all of them in 2008 and think everyone else should too!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gayle, that sounds really bizarre to me.  Personally I detest it when co-workers drag themselves into the office coughing and spluttering or exhausted, and the workplaces that encourage this nonsense.  Sick people have no productivity, are a distraction, and make everyone else ill.  As an aside, the equally crazy American concept of a finite number of sick days per annum is always a source of enormous amusement to my (Irish) family.</p>
<p>I just finished reading the excellent &#8220;Downshifting&#8221; per Trent&#8217;s recommendation and found some of the low-risk downshifting ideas in that book really good (taking all lunches outside the office/not eating at your desk, scheduling personal activities on outlook calendars and with admin staff, making it known you won&#8217;t be working weekends, etc).  I will be implementing all of them in 2008 and think everyone else should too!</p>
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		<title>By: m</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/12/30/review-take-back-your-time/#comment-145035</link>
		<dc:creator>m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 22:15:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One thing I love about the contents of this book (based on your post--I haven&#039;t read it) is the final point about working on changing public policy. 

I find that the larger, societal issues that affect our individual personal finance experiences are often as equally important as, sometimes even more important than, the personal factors that affect our financial lives. 

Often, there is only so much any of person can do to bring about needed change in their own lives, and working on personal as well as socio-political aspects of an issue simultaneously can help bring about so much more effective change than working on just personal issues alone (or just societal issues alone, though I think societal change can have much larger impact than just personal change). 

One problem, however, is that with time poverty (great term) being such a prevalent problem for so many--as well as other problems that keep us all busy and often stressed or overwhelmed--a lot of us don&#039;t pursue social change as much as we ought or could because of the effects of those very issues we&#039;d benefit from changing. A catch 22, but one that I think is important to address and try to change. 

I definitely hope to address both personal and societal factors in my blog and though many personal finance blogs already do that as well, I wish even more personal finance discussions included the societal aspect of personal finance and focused on both personal and social change as a means of addressing personal finance issues. 

Just because we are talking about *personal* finance in no way means that our financial lives aren&#039;t heavily affected by much larger *societal* issues as well, ones that we may benefit from changing along with our own personal issues.  Anyhow, loved this post as it was not only well organized and thorough but the topic is one that is so important in American society these days, and one that so many are not happy with and are eager to change.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing I love about the contents of this book (based on your post&#8211;I haven&#8217;t read it) is the final point about working on changing public policy. </p>
<p>I find that the larger, societal issues that affect our individual personal finance experiences are often as equally important as, sometimes even more important than, the personal factors that affect our financial lives. </p>
<p>Often, there is only so much any of person can do to bring about needed change in their own lives, and working on personal as well as socio-political aspects of an issue simultaneously can help bring about so much more effective change than working on just personal issues alone (or just societal issues alone, though I think societal change can have much larger impact than just personal change). </p>
<p>One problem, however, is that with time poverty (great term) being such a prevalent problem for so many&#8211;as well as other problems that keep us all busy and often stressed or overwhelmed&#8211;a lot of us don&#8217;t pursue social change as much as we ought or could because of the effects of those very issues we&#8217;d benefit from changing. A catch 22, but one that I think is important to address and try to change. </p>
<p>I definitely hope to address both personal and societal factors in my blog and though many personal finance blogs already do that as well, I wish even more personal finance discussions included the societal aspect of personal finance and focused on both personal and social change as a means of addressing personal finance issues. </p>
<p>Just because we are talking about *personal* finance in no way means that our financial lives aren&#8217;t heavily affected by much larger *societal* issues as well, ones that we may benefit from changing along with our own personal issues.  Anyhow, loved this post as it was not only well organized and thorough but the topic is one that is so important in American society these days, and one that so many are not happy with and are eager to change.</p>
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		<title>By: Gayle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gayle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 20:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have lots of concerns with this phenomenon.  For starters I work in a health care organization that actually AS WRITTEN POLICY institutes disciplinary action for being sick and using your sick time.  You literally must be hospitalized for an illness to be recognized as legitimate.  I actually had a supervisor ask me why I couldn&#039;t finish my shift as I lay curled up in pain.  Hours later I was admitted for emergency surgery on that acute appendix.  Had to jump through lots of hoops for the insurance company too.  

This same organization expects all my time to be productive in patient care.  I am expected to do patient education.....in the middle of the night.  So I have a catch 22.  Either I am harassing patients with unreasonable demands that they participate in the hospital&#039;s agenda of items that must be done prior to discharge or I am remiss in my duties.

So much for the healing effects of time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have lots of concerns with this phenomenon.  For starters I work in a health care organization that actually AS WRITTEN POLICY institutes disciplinary action for being sick and using your sick time.  You literally must be hospitalized for an illness to be recognized as legitimate.  I actually had a supervisor ask me why I couldn&#8217;t finish my shift as I lay curled up in pain.  Hours later I was admitted for emergency surgery on that acute appendix.  Had to jump through lots of hoops for the insurance company too.  </p>
<p>This same organization expects all my time to be productive in patient care.  I am expected to do patient education&#8230;..in the middle of the night.  So I have a catch 22.  Either I am harassing patients with unreasonable demands that they participate in the hospital&#8217;s agenda of items that must be done prior to discharge or I am remiss in my duties.</p>
<p>So much for the healing effects of time.</p>
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		<title>By: Joel Quile</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joel Quile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 20:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is probably just an overreaction on my part, but I can&#039;t believe that this book uses children and pets in the same breath.  I&#039;m not for animal cruelty, yet I would never put my kids any where near the same level of priority of my kids.  If I&#039;m over working or mismanaging my time and it is hurting my kids or family, I need to make a drastic change.  If it is affecting my pet, I need to find a good home for my pet.  In fact, when we got serious about getting out of debt, the first thing we did was find a great home for our beautiful yellow lab, Mr. Jones.  We found this retired couple who lived on the Sacramento River in CA. that just lost their dog and it was a great fit.  

Anyway, I might be the only one who was truly disturbed by the author lumping children and pets together but I just thought I&#039;d express my feelings nonetheless.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is probably just an overreaction on my part, but I can&#8217;t believe that this book uses children and pets in the same breath.  I&#8217;m not for animal cruelty, yet I would never put my kids any where near the same level of priority of my kids.  If I&#8217;m over working or mismanaging my time and it is hurting my kids or family, I need to make a drastic change.  If it is affecting my pet, I need to find a good home for my pet.  In fact, when we got serious about getting out of debt, the first thing we did was find a great home for our beautiful yellow lab, Mr. Jones.  We found this retired couple who lived on the Sacramento River in CA. that just lost their dog and it was a great fit.  </p>
<p>Anyway, I might be the only one who was truly disturbed by the author lumping children and pets together but I just thought I&#8217;d express my feelings nonetheless.</p>
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