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	<title>Comments on: Practicing What You Preach: Should A Personal Financial Writer Be Expected To Follow Their Own Message?</title>
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		<title>By: Yolander Prinzel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yolander Prinzel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 16:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Knowing the right thing to do and having the discipline to do it are two completely different things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Knowing the right thing to do and having the discipline to do it are two completely different things.</p>
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		<title>By: john smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>john smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 00:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MP Dunleavy also tells women how to leave thier husbands and take everthing they have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MP Dunleavy also tells women how to leave thier husbands and take everthing they have.</p>
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		<title>By: SavingDiva</title>
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		<dc:creator>SavingDiva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 19:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually stopped reading articles by MP Dunleavy because of this misstep in judgement.  Her finances are a mess!  Why would I want to listen to her top 5 tips on how to save money?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually stopped reading articles by MP Dunleavy because of this misstep in judgement.  Her finances are a mess!  Why would I want to listen to her top 5 tips on how to save money?</p>
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		<title>By: jana</title>
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		<dc:creator>jana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 04:24:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i believe practicing what you preach is very important. i would find ok if she went to buy an expensive par of shoes, but this is something that i consider a bit too big a purchase in the situation that you lot are talking about.
i DO believe people like her could have something interesting to say as an advice but i would prefer reading columns by someone else</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i believe practicing what you preach is very important. i would find ok if she went to buy an expensive par of shoes, but this is something that i consider a bit too big a purchase in the situation that you lot are talking about.<br />
i DO believe people like her could have something interesting to say as an advice but i would prefer reading columns by someone else</p>
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		<title>By: db</title>
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		<dc:creator>db</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 07:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It appears that most people understand that one may be able to give sound advice without following it and still not be hypocritical.&quot;

UH -- not really.

It strikes me as pretty hypocritical to be in a position of being a paid columnist about learning to be fiscally responsible, and then to openly discuss a situation in which you flagrantly disregard fiscal responsibility.

I think we should hold columnists/bloggers/etc to a higher standard. After all, they are purporting to some degree of being in a position of &quot;expert.&quot;

Why should I give any credence to anything this woman has to say now? I don&#039;t. What kills it for me isn&#039;t that she bought the house, but that she bought it with such whimsy. 

If you go back and read her root articles, it turns out the only reason they will be able to afford this whole thing is her husband is taking a second job and they were lucky enough to rent the house they already own.

If they needed a bigger house -- well ok. So whatever happened to making the purchase rationally -- selling the first house before buying the second one? And not buying such an expensive house that you need to take on a second job? 

Dave Ramsey would throw a fit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It appears that most people understand that one may be able to give sound advice without following it and still not be hypocritical.&#8221;</p>
<p>UH &#8212; not really.</p>
<p>It strikes me as pretty hypocritical to be in a position of being a paid columnist about learning to be fiscally responsible, and then to openly discuss a situation in which you flagrantly disregard fiscal responsibility.</p>
<p>I think we should hold columnists/bloggers/etc to a higher standard. After all, they are purporting to some degree of being in a position of &#8220;expert.&#8221;</p>
<p>Why should I give any credence to anything this woman has to say now? I don&#8217;t. What kills it for me isn&#8217;t that she bought the house, but that she bought it with such whimsy. </p>
<p>If you go back and read her root articles, it turns out the only reason they will be able to afford this whole thing is her husband is taking a second job and they were lucky enough to rent the house they already own.</p>
<p>If they needed a bigger house &#8212; well ok. So whatever happened to making the purchase rationally &#8212; selling the first house before buying the second one? And not buying such an expensive house that you need to take on a second job? </p>
<p>Dave Ramsey would throw a fit.</p>
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		<title>By: Livingalmostlarge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Livingalmostlarge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 04:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MP Dunleavy is 41 with a newborn. They have no EF, no college savings, and $16k for retirement, and $6500 CC debt.

Second, she kicked a woman out of the Women In Red Group (Stephanie) for buying a Mercedes.  Apparently it wasn&#039;t keeping with the theme of becoming debt free.

Well then 3 months later she did the same thing buying a house.  Can you say hypocrite?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MP Dunleavy is 41 with a newborn. They have no EF, no college savings, and $16k for retirement, and $6500 CC debt.</p>
<p>Second, she kicked a woman out of the Women In Red Group (Stephanie) for buying a Mercedes.  Apparently it wasn&#8217;t keeping with the theme of becoming debt free.</p>
<p>Well then 3 months later she did the same thing buying a house.  Can you say hypocrite?</p>
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		<title>By: Lazy Man and Money</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lazy Man and Money</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 21:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you did come into some money that made a purchase of a new home possible, you could easily discuss it.  You might not be able to legally discuss the details on how that money came into hands, but no one can bar you from saying that your circumstances have changed.  That would leave the trust in tact.  

The problem arises when there is a disconnect - without a clear explanation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you did come into some money that made a purchase of a new home possible, you could easily discuss it.  You might not be able to legally discuss the details on how that money came into hands, but no one can bar you from saying that your circumstances have changed.  That would leave the trust in tact.  </p>
<p>The problem arises when there is a disconnect &#8211; without a clear explanation.</p>
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		<title>By: Dana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 19:36:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mia has done this before, though it got less attention. She mentioned on the Women in Red boards last year that she was planning a vacation to Europe. This was not long after she&#039;d had her first child. People pounced all over her for it, and she said she wasn&#039;t going to go.

I think her financial sense is skewed because she spent some of her &quot;single young professional&quot; time in NYC, then moved upstate when she settled down. She seems to measure a &quot;deal&quot; by how much she would have paid back when she lived in NYC. 

All that said, I found the situation a bit annoying only because I felt she was cultivating an entirely different persona on NYT than she did on MSN--therefore one, or both, has to be fake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mia has done this before, though it got less attention. She mentioned on the Women in Red boards last year that she was planning a vacation to Europe. This was not long after she&#8217;d had her first child. People pounced all over her for it, and she said she wasn&#8217;t going to go.</p>
<p>I think her financial sense is skewed because she spent some of her &#8220;single young professional&#8221; time in NYC, then moved upstate when she settled down. She seems to measure a &#8220;deal&#8221; by how much she would have paid back when she lived in NYC. </p>
<p>All that said, I found the situation a bit annoying only because I felt she was cultivating an entirely different persona on NYT than she did on MSN&#8211;therefore one, or both, has to be fake.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 19:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think that being consistent in what you say and what you do is limited to any particular profession or position. I&#039;m a social worker by trade; if I tell my clients it&#039;s important for them to, say, complete their advanced health care directives, I think it&#039;s important for me to do the same.

That said, no one is perfect, and we all do things that aren&#039;t necessarily in character some of the time.
-
Ryan
http://uncommon-cents.net/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think that being consistent in what you say and what you do is limited to any particular profession or position. I&#8217;m a social worker by trade; if I tell my clients it&#8217;s important for them to, say, complete their advanced health care directives, I think it&#8217;s important for me to do the same.</p>
<p>That said, no one is perfect, and we all do things that aren&#8217;t necessarily in character some of the time.<br />
-<br />
Ryan<br />
<a href="http://uncommon-cents.net/" rel="nofollow">http://uncommon-cents.net/</a></p>
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		<title>By: mouse</title>
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		<dc:creator>mouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 19:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didn&#039;t Dr. Phil write a book about weight-loss? I guess knowing what works and having the willpower to do it are two different things. Unflagging motivation is the key.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#8217;t Dr. Phil write a book about weight-loss? I guess knowing what works and having the willpower to do it are two different things. Unflagging motivation is the key.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 16:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a balancing act between your self-respect &amp; mental health, vs. your spending, and while everyone agrees we shouldn&#039;t get emotionally-attached to a house when we look to buy, how many of us can turn that off?  I&#039;ve never been able to.  It sounds to me like she was tolerating a lot of things w/the old house, like a low ceiling, no office, etc.  And would I put my financial decisions out there on a blog for people to comment on?  NEVER  She threw out her financial advice, and followed her heart.  Don&#039;t rake her over the coals for it.  Sometimes in life, for our self-respect and mental health, we do these things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a balancing act between your self-respect &amp; mental health, vs. your spending, and while everyone agrees we shouldn&#8217;t get emotionally-attached to a house when we look to buy, how many of us can turn that off?  I&#8217;ve never been able to.  It sounds to me like she was tolerating a lot of things w/the old house, like a low ceiling, no office, etc.  And would I put my financial decisions out there on a blog for people to comment on?  NEVER  She threw out her financial advice, and followed her heart.  Don&#8217;t rake her over the coals for it.  Sometimes in life, for our self-respect and mental health, we do these things.</p>
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		<title>By: Best Advice on Debt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Best Advice on Debt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 16:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes they should!

That&#039;s what makes Dave Ramsey an amazing financial blessing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes they should!</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what makes Dave Ramsey an amazing financial blessing!</p>
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		<title>By: MossySF</title>
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		<dc:creator>MossySF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 15:40:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The minister/hooker analogy was not really a question about MP Dunleavy but a question about the readers. What are the readers getting out of her articles? Is it just a voyeuristic thrill watching a train-wreck in progress like typical daytime TV talk fare? If so, great -- MSN/NYT has to right to publish &quot;entertainment&quot; in order to make money.

But if readers are following her advice and experiences to improve their own personal finance situations, perhaps the readers should re-evaluate whether her articles are worth reading.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The minister/hooker analogy was not really a question about MP Dunleavy but a question about the readers. What are the readers getting out of her articles? Is it just a voyeuristic thrill watching a train-wreck in progress like typical daytime TV talk fare? If so, great &#8212; MSN/NYT has to right to publish &#8220;entertainment&#8221; in order to make money.</p>
<p>But if readers are following her advice and experiences to improve their own personal finance situations, perhaps the readers should re-evaluate whether her articles are worth reading.</p>
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		<title>By: Demeron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Demeron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 15:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True, there are good teachers who do not alas practice what they teach... but I think they&#039;re less effective if we the students find them out!

I think part of MP&#039;s success is simply that&#039;s she&#039;s interesting.  There are plenty of zipped up people who have it together-- it&#039;s not hard for them to put their finances first; they&#039;re born that way.  Though admirable and useful, somehow I don&#039;t find them as interesting as the people that struggle like I do.

A house purchase is a deeply emotional one, pity they&#039;re so blinking expensive.  I went out on a limb to build a lovely house designed just for us, and now I have a mortgage that rose from 8% of our combined gross income to 25%.  My PF reading has spiked since we moved, simply because I want to get my scary mortgage down.  I keep reading about how the road to wealth is an inexpensive house, groan! I could have stayed in our ugly boxy place and been paid off in ten years, but I didn&#039;t want to.  For better or worse,  I did what I wanted to do.  I spend every day with gleaming hardwood floors and light and space, and also with a slight seizure of the internal organs when some hitch in my DH&#039;s employment appears.  (It&#039;s okay, looks like we&#039;re good for a while).  My choice, but I&#039;m glad my personal finance blog is not public!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True, there are good teachers who do not alas practice what they teach&#8230; but I think they&#8217;re less effective if we the students find them out!</p>
<p>I think part of MP&#8217;s success is simply that&#8217;s she&#8217;s interesting.  There are plenty of zipped up people who have it together&#8211; it&#8217;s not hard for them to put their finances first; they&#8217;re born that way.  Though admirable and useful, somehow I don&#8217;t find them as interesting as the people that struggle like I do.</p>
<p>A house purchase is a deeply emotional one, pity they&#8217;re so blinking expensive.  I went out on a limb to build a lovely house designed just for us, and now I have a mortgage that rose from 8% of our combined gross income to 25%.  My PF reading has spiked since we moved, simply because I want to get my scary mortgage down.  I keep reading about how the road to wealth is an inexpensive house, groan! I could have stayed in our ugly boxy place and been paid off in ten years, but I didn&#8217;t want to.  For better or worse,  I did what I wanted to do.  I spend every day with gleaming hardwood floors and light and space, and also with a slight seizure of the internal organs when some hitch in my DH&#8217;s employment appears.  (It&#8217;s okay, looks like we&#8217;re good for a while).  My choice, but I&#8217;m glad my personal finance blog is not public!</p>
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		<title>By: Never the Same River Twice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Never the Same River Twice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 15:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems to me that some people are missing a critical point here.

&lt;strong&gt;You don&#039;t have to be a great doer to be a good teacher.&lt;/strong&gt;

I&#039;ve known lots of people who are great at teaching or helping others, despite the fact that their personal choices aren&#039;t the best. One of my best friends is an awesome social worker, but her personal life is a freakin&#039; train wreck. 

I have seen examples of this same principle in doctors, nurses, athletic trainers, counselors and acting coaches. I personally value what I can learn from a person. It doesn&#039;t really matter to me if they follow their own advice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to me that some people are missing a critical point here.</p>
<p><strong>You don&#8217;t have to be a great doer to be a good teacher.</strong></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve known lots of people who are great at teaching or helping others, despite the fact that their personal choices aren&#8217;t the best. One of my best friends is an awesome social worker, but her personal life is a freakin&#8217; train wreck. </p>
<p>I have seen examples of this same principle in doctors, nurses, athletic trainers, counselors and acting coaches. I personally value what I can learn from a person. It doesn&#8217;t really matter to me if they follow their own advice.</p>
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		<title>By: The Bad Penny</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Bad Penny</dc:creator>
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		<description>While I don&#039;t know much, if anything, about Dunleavey&#039;s &quot;deception,&quot;  I couldn&#039;t help thinking how difficult it can be to write a blog with such personal information!  

I&#039;ve been debating with myself over the very issue you mentioned - do I give my readers advice that is sound even if I don&#039;t do it myself?  There are lots of great ideas out there that for one reason or another I haven&#039;t done, and sometimes I feel so hypocritical telling my readers to do something when I don&#039;t do it (even if it&#039;s great advice!)

After reading the comments, though, I feel much more confident in what I am doing.  It appears that most people understand that one may be able to give sound advice without following it and still not be hypocritical.  After all, every situation is different, and to not take advice because you simply can&#039;t afford it at the moment is not contradicting yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I don&#8217;t know much, if anything, about Dunleavey&#8217;s &#8220;deception,&#8221;  I couldn&#8217;t help thinking how difficult it can be to write a blog with such personal information!  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been debating with myself over the very issue you mentioned &#8211; do I give my readers advice that is sound even if I don&#8217;t do it myself?  There are lots of great ideas out there that for one reason or another I haven&#8217;t done, and sometimes I feel so hypocritical telling my readers to do something when I don&#8217;t do it (even if it&#8217;s great advice!)</p>
<p>After reading the comments, though, I feel much more confident in what I am doing.  It appears that most people understand that one may be able to give sound advice without following it and still not be hypocritical.  After all, every situation is different, and to not take advice because you simply can&#8217;t afford it at the moment is not contradicting yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: Dawn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 14:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would think anyone who regularly reads her column would realize that she writes from the perspective Shevy describes-someone who knows what the rules are but struggles to follow them.  She doesn&#039;t really offer advice, just experience.  The original goal of the Women in Red was NOT for MP to get out of debt, but to explore how and why people got there in the first place and how to do better in the future.

  I think that&#039;s what makes her attractive to a lot of us.  For whatever reason, I don&#039;t have the discipline Trent does (though I try to be inspired by TheSimpleDollar to do better every day).  So, I enjoy her writing because she is very real to me and struggles with the same things I (and a lot of other people) do.  Also, if you read her book, it isn&#039;t a series of rules or recommendations.  It&#039;s more of an exploration about the emotional side of money and why we spend the way we do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would think anyone who regularly reads her column would realize that she writes from the perspective Shevy describes-someone who knows what the rules are but struggles to follow them.  She doesn&#8217;t really offer advice, just experience.  The original goal of the Women in Red was NOT for MP to get out of debt, but to explore how and why people got there in the first place and how to do better in the future.</p>
<p>  I think that&#8217;s what makes her attractive to a lot of us.  For whatever reason, I don&#8217;t have the discipline Trent does (though I try to be inspired by TheSimpleDollar to do better every day).  So, I enjoy her writing because she is very real to me and struggles with the same things I (and a lot of other people) do.  Also, if you read her book, it isn&#8217;t a series of rules or recommendations.  It&#8217;s more of an exploration about the emotional side of money and why we spend the way we do.</p>
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		<title>By: Johanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 14:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems to me that many people who criticize Dunleavey for having bought the house (rather than for writing about it in the NYT without mentioning it on MSN, which is a whole separate issue) are operating under the mistaken idea that personal finance falls within the real of virtue and vice.  It doesn&#039;t.  A poster above likens Dunleavey&#039;s actions to those of a religious leader who visits prostitutes at the same time as he preaches, &quot;Thou shalt not visit prostitutes.&quot;  Interesting parallel indeed, but completely false.

The real message of personal finance is not &quot;Thou shalt live as far below thy means as possible, or else thou art an evil person who is going to hell.&quot;  It is &quot;Financial decisions have consequences, which are sometimes hard to weigh against each other, either because they&#039;re long-term (like retirement savings) or cumulative (like buying lattes) or very emotional (like buying houses) or some combination of the three.&quot;  Now, it seems like Dunleavey bought the house on an emotional whim, without taking a whole lot of time to think through the consequences.  Perhaps that was foolish, but it&#039;s not immoral.  I&#039;m interested in seeing how it turns out for her, though, so I&#039;ll be following her writing more closely in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to me that many people who criticize Dunleavey for having bought the house (rather than for writing about it in the NYT without mentioning it on MSN, which is a whole separate issue) are operating under the mistaken idea that personal finance falls within the real of virtue and vice.  It doesn&#8217;t.  A poster above likens Dunleavey&#8217;s actions to those of a religious leader who visits prostitutes at the same time as he preaches, &#8220;Thou shalt not visit prostitutes.&#8221;  Interesting parallel indeed, but completely false.</p>
<p>The real message of personal finance is not &#8220;Thou shalt live as far below thy means as possible, or else thou art an evil person who is going to hell.&#8221;  It is &#8220;Financial decisions have consequences, which are sometimes hard to weigh against each other, either because they&#8217;re long-term (like retirement savings) or cumulative (like buying lattes) or very emotional (like buying houses) or some combination of the three.&#8221;  Now, it seems like Dunleavey bought the house on an emotional whim, without taking a whole lot of time to think through the consequences.  Perhaps that was foolish, but it&#8217;s not immoral.  I&#8217;m interested in seeing how it turns out for her, though, so I&#8217;ll be following her writing more closely in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: tightwadfan</title>
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		<dc:creator>tightwadfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 12:01:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People can make all the excuses for Dunleavy that they want, but it won&#039;t change the fact that she has lost her credibility as a personal finance writer with this decision. The issue is not, should she have bought the house? It&#039;s, should the NYT be paying her to write about personal finance. I just think it&#039;s sad that the supposed premier newspaper in the US can&#039;t find someone more credible for the position. 

We all have setbacks in our personal finance paths, and I like reading PF blogs that document the struggle. But I expect more from people who have a prominent, public, position.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People can make all the excuses for Dunleavy that they want, but it won&#8217;t change the fact that she has lost her credibility as a personal finance writer with this decision. The issue is not, should she have bought the house? It&#8217;s, should the NYT be paying her to write about personal finance. I just think it&#8217;s sad that the supposed premier newspaper in the US can&#8217;t find someone more credible for the position. </p>
<p>We all have setbacks in our personal finance paths, and I like reading PF blogs that document the struggle. But I expect more from people who have a prominent, public, position.</p>
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		<title>By: Shevy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shevy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 07:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing that hasn&#039;t been mentioned is that the group MP heads up and writes about on MSN is called Women in Red because they&#039;re &quot;in the red&quot;.  This is all about a group of women who are a) in debt and b) struggling to get out.  That includes MP, who writes about personal finance from that perspective.

So we&#039;re not talking about some financial guru with her act perfectly together.  MP has been very upfront about both the good and the bad, not just about this house purchase, but about her finances all along.

As to whether she can give advice without always having to follow that advice herself, I believe it&#039;s very possible to know what the rules are, to be able to explain them to someone else and to still have trouble following the rules.

Does anyone here have a weight problem?  If so, and you know that in order to lose weight you need to eat fewer calories and exercise more, then you&#039;re in MP&#039;s situation.

Same thing goes for smoking.  You know about cancer, right?

Or personal finance.  Did anyone out there increase their credit card debt over the holiday season?

In my own case, I know how important having a current will is.  Guess what?  I&#039;ve been &quot;in progress&quot; on it since August.  Does that make me incompetent?  No, human.

Let&#039;s cut MP a little slack and see how it progresses.  I&#039;m pleased to see that her hubby stepped up to the plate about the part-time job.  Maybe that wouldn&#039;t have happened if not for buying this house and it helps balance their responsibilities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing that hasn&#8217;t been mentioned is that the group MP heads up and writes about on MSN is called Women in Red because they&#8217;re &#8220;in the red&#8221;.  This is all about a group of women who are a) in debt and b) struggling to get out.  That includes MP, who writes about personal finance from that perspective.</p>
<p>So we&#8217;re not talking about some financial guru with her act perfectly together.  MP has been very upfront about both the good and the bad, not just about this house purchase, but about her finances all along.</p>
<p>As to whether she can give advice without always having to follow that advice herself, I believe it&#8217;s very possible to know what the rules are, to be able to explain them to someone else and to still have trouble following the rules.</p>
<p>Does anyone here have a weight problem?  If so, and you know that in order to lose weight you need to eat fewer calories and exercise more, then you&#8217;re in MP&#8217;s situation.</p>
<p>Same thing goes for smoking.  You know about cancer, right?</p>
<p>Or personal finance.  Did anyone out there increase their credit card debt over the holiday season?</p>
<p>In my own case, I know how important having a current will is.  Guess what?  I&#8217;ve been &#8220;in progress&#8221; on it since August.  Does that make me incompetent?  No, human.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s cut MP a little slack and see how it progresses.  I&#8217;m pleased to see that her hubby stepped up to the plate about the part-time job.  Maybe that wouldn&#8217;t have happened if not for buying this house and it helps balance their responsibilities.</p>
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