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	<title>Comments on: The Basics: Eight Tactics To Use When You&#8217;re Just Starting To Turn Things Around</title>
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		<title>By: Online Money Finance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Online Money Finance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 14:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are a lot of great ideas here, but I think it has to be a fundamental lifestyle change if anything is going to succeed. Anyone who wants to live better, and live debt free must want to do so enough that they will make the effort and take the time it takes to do it right. Far too many people are looking for a quick way out: more money, a better paying job, debt consolidation services, bankruptcy, etc... but without changing their lifestyle and the way they think about money they will almost certainly end up in the same place at a later point in their life.

2 books that got me starting to think about the basics and motivated me to learn more are Rich Dad, Poor Dad and The Richest Man in Babylon. Those are easy reads. If you&#039;re looking for something broader based, with great detail and something that will really change the way you think about money then I strongly recommend Ben Graham&#039;s (Warren Buffet&#039;s mentor) book: The Intelligent Investor.



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are a lot of great ideas here, but I think it has to be a fundamental lifestyle change if anything is going to succeed. Anyone who wants to live better, and live debt free must want to do so enough that they will make the effort and take the time it takes to do it right. Far too many people are looking for a quick way out: more money, a better paying job, debt consolidation services, bankruptcy, etc&#8230; but without changing their lifestyle and the way they think about money they will almost certainly end up in the same place at a later point in their life.</p>
<p>2 books that got me starting to think about the basics and motivated me to learn more are Rich Dad, Poor Dad and The Richest Man in Babylon. Those are easy reads. If you&#8217;re looking for something broader based, with great detail and something that will really change the way you think about money then I strongly recommend Ben Graham&#8217;s (Warren Buffet&#8217;s mentor) book: The Intelligent Investor.</p>
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		<title>By: Hal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 04:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, so what a first comment...  But, I&#039;ve been reading your site for, oh, something like 7 months and have gotten lots of ideas, including turning your hobby into another source of income...  Still working on that, though :-\

I love these basics articles because they just reinforce and remind me of what I need to do to stay above water. Fortunately, I&#039;m doing okay, though I suppose I could be doing a ton better. One step at a time, I suppose.

I&#039;m sure there are some features on my site you might find useful for here (i.e. Frugal Friday), and I&#039;d love to have some suggestions, if you have them, from one foodie to another.

And, finally...  Tag (check out the website link... would make a good post to talk about the man behind the curtain).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, so what a first comment&#8230;  But, I&#8217;ve been reading your site for, oh, something like 7 months and have gotten lots of ideas, including turning your hobby into another source of income&#8230;  Still working on that, though :-\</p>
<p>I love these basics articles because they just reinforce and remind me of what I need to do to stay above water. Fortunately, I&#8217;m doing okay, though I suppose I could be doing a ton better. One step at a time, I suppose.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure there are some features on my site you might find useful for here (i.e. Frugal Friday), and I&#8217;d love to have some suggestions, if you have them, from one foodie to another.</p>
<p>And, finally&#8230;  Tag (check out the website link&#8230; would make a good post to talk about the man behind the curtain).</p>
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		<title>By: Sharon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sharon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2008 20:50:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KellyKelly has a good idea with the stickers.  It sounds childish, but for me it helped to remember that even if I screwed up today, well, you can&#039;t take away yesterday or the day before&#039;s good performance. And then you need to have more good days than bad and then almost all good days...etc.
And no one can take away what you have accomplished so far...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KellyKelly has a good idea with the stickers.  It sounds childish, but for me it helped to remember that even if I screwed up today, well, you can&#8217;t take away yesterday or the day before&#8217;s good performance. And then you need to have more good days than bad and then almost all good days&#8230;etc.<br />
And no one can take away what you have accomplished so far&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Adrian @ Path to Your Destiny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrian @ Path to Your Destiny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2008 16:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While not a money tip per se, I do love your suggestion to &quot;take a dive into less expensive hobbies&quot;. There are so many things to do out there that cost nearly nothing that people don&#039;t take advantage of - such as exercising, reading, and inviting friends over for a social event. It&#039;s just too bad we all have to think spending more money = being happier when it obviously isn&#039;t true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While not a money tip per se, I do love your suggestion to &#8220;take a dive into less expensive hobbies&#8221;. There are so many things to do out there that cost nearly nothing that people don&#8217;t take advantage of &#8211; such as exercising, reading, and inviting friends over for a social event. It&#8217;s just too bad we all have to think spending more money = being happier when it obviously isn&#8217;t true.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2008 14:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Anyone who lives within their means suffers from a lack of imagination&quot; - Oscar Wilde</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Anyone who lives within their means suffers from a lack of imagination&#8221; &#8211; Oscar Wilde</p>
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		<title>By: Ginger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ginger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 23:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just had to comment on the library thing.  I&#039;ve been following this blog for months now and it has helped me quite a lot.  But I live out in the county and the city library here charges people like me SIXTY dollars per year for a library card.  I paid for one year and was very disappointed, not just at the high cost, but at the library itself...antiquated books, some very non-PC, no videos, interlibrary loans are FIFTEEN dollars, late fees are 50 cents per day per item.  I won&#039;t be getting another card.  In defense, I suppose because of this situation, there is a &#039;library&#039; out at a feed store near me.  It is entirely donor run, has videos, encyclopedias, music and lots and lots of books.  For anyone in this situation, consider starting a book exchange of some sort.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just had to comment on the library thing.  I&#8217;ve been following this blog for months now and it has helped me quite a lot.  But I live out in the county and the city library here charges people like me SIXTY dollars per year for a library card.  I paid for one year and was very disappointed, not just at the high cost, but at the library itself&#8230;antiquated books, some very non-PC, no videos, interlibrary loans are FIFTEEN dollars, late fees are 50 cents per day per item.  I won&#8217;t be getting another card.  In defense, I suppose because of this situation, there is a &#8216;library&#8217; out at a feed store near me.  It is entirely donor run, has videos, encyclopedias, music and lots and lots of books.  For anyone in this situation, consider starting a book exchange of some sort.</p>
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		<title>By: KellyKelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>KellyKelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 22:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OH, and as for a useful technique, here&#039;s one:

POSITIVE REINFORCEMENT!

I heard once of someone motivating themself to keep their checkbook balanced by putting &quot;Atta Girl!&quot; and &quot;Great job!&quot; and &quot;Way to go!&quot; stickers all over the outside of their checkbook.

It&#039;s so easy to berate yourself when you are trying to change a habit. Over the long term, most people respond better to praise than to punishment (managers and parents, take note!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OH, and as for a useful technique, here&#8217;s one:</p>
<p>POSITIVE REINFORCEMENT!</p>
<p>I heard once of someone motivating themself to keep their checkbook balanced by putting &#8220;Atta Girl!&#8221; and &#8220;Great job!&#8221; and &#8220;Way to go!&#8221; stickers all over the outside of their checkbook.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s so easy to berate yourself when you are trying to change a habit. Over the long term, most people respond better to praise than to punishment (managers and parents, take note!)</p>
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		<title>By: KellyKelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>KellyKelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 22:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a yard sale and made a whopping $27. 

Where is all this STUFF that people sell for hundreds of dollars? Do they sell their kitchen table (got mine for $20 many years ago) or similar things? 

I don&#039;t have toys! Really, I don&#039;t!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a yard sale and made a whopping $27. </p>
<p>Where is all this STUFF that people sell for hundreds of dollars? Do they sell their kitchen table (got mine for $20 many years ago) or similar things? </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have toys! Really, I don&#8217;t!</p>
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		<title>By: Jen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 18:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a lifestyle/quality of life issue, I would suggest picking up some volunteer work.  Especially if she&#039;s cutting out things that she normally spends money on, she&#039;s going to need to do something with that time so she&#039;s not driving herself crazy.

She could volunteer at her local symphony, ballet, opera, the zoo, botantical gardens, or museums.  Things that are social to replace the social activities that she can no longer afford.  It&#039;ll get her out of the house, not cost her money, and she&#039;ll learn something and enjoy herself in the process.  Our baseball stadium has volunteer positions.  You get to see a baseball game for free for stopping people from walking up and down the isles when the ball is in play.

Just a thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a lifestyle/quality of life issue, I would suggest picking up some volunteer work.  Especially if she&#8217;s cutting out things that she normally spends money on, she&#8217;s going to need to do something with that time so she&#8217;s not driving herself crazy.</p>
<p>She could volunteer at her local symphony, ballet, opera, the zoo, botantical gardens, or museums.  Things that are social to replace the social activities that she can no longer afford.  It&#8217;ll get her out of the house, not cost her money, and she&#8217;ll learn something and enjoy herself in the process.  Our baseball stadium has volunteer positions.  You get to see a baseball game for free for stopping people from walking up and down the isles when the ball is in play.</p>
<p>Just a thought.</p>
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		<title>By: Cat-Daddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cat-Daddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 17:58:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LC, I do and I don&#039;t agree with your suggestion of doing a financial self-assessment.  At some point we all need to do it.

But for people who just feel overwhelmed by their disappearing paychecks, I think setting simple rules, like the 10-sec. or spending fasts, work better.

If you already feel hopeless about money, doing a detailed self-assessment will just make you feel worse.

I for one stayed away from money planning like the plague.  I didn&#039;t understand it, but I also didn&#039;t want to.  It takes a certain mental discipline to sit down with the pen, paper &amp; calculator, and we don&#039;t all have it.  It&#039;s better to start after a small victory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LC, I do and I don&#8217;t agree with your suggestion of doing a financial self-assessment.  At some point we all need to do it.</p>
<p>But for people who just feel overwhelmed by their disappearing paychecks, I think setting simple rules, like the 10-sec. or spending fasts, work better.</p>
<p>If you already feel hopeless about money, doing a detailed self-assessment will just make you feel worse.</p>
<p>I for one stayed away from money planning like the plague.  I didn&#8217;t understand it, but I also didn&#8217;t want to.  It takes a certain mental discipline to sit down with the pen, paper &amp; calculator, and we don&#8217;t all have it.  It&#8217;s better to start after a small victory.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 17:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Learning how to cook well is not&lt;/i&gt; an expensive hobby? I don&#039;t know about that. The more new things you try to do in the kitchen, the more it costs. The ingredients (and it is often the case that a recipe calls for a small amount of something that you can only buy in big quantities), the equipment and utensils, the cookbooks, the storage containers, the time involved in the trips to the store and the preparation itself... Not to mention when you learn new things, ingredients and equipment often get ruined.

Cooking is easier to &lt;i&gt;justify&lt;/i&gt; as an expensive hobby, because we need food more often than clothes, but it certainly can be just as costly to have gourmet skills as it can to have designer tastes. When I made a commitment to frugality, I also made a commitment to Ramen noodles and Michelina frozen dinners.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Learning how to cook well is not</i> an expensive hobby? I don&#8217;t know about that. The more new things you try to do in the kitchen, the more it costs. The ingredients (and it is often the case that a recipe calls for a small amount of something that you can only buy in big quantities), the equipment and utensils, the cookbooks, the storage containers, the time involved in the trips to the store and the preparation itself&#8230; Not to mention when you learn new things, ingredients and equipment often get ruined.</p>
<p>Cooking is easier to <i>justify</i> as an expensive hobby, because we need food more often than clothes, but it certainly can be just as costly to have gourmet skills as it can to have designer tastes. When I made a commitment to frugality, I also made a commitment to Ramen noodles and Michelina frozen dinners.</p>
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		<title>By: ablemabel</title>
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		<dc:creator>ablemabel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 17:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Writers Coin - I think his recommendation of Your Money or Your Life handles lifestyle issues exceedingly well.  

I think the most important first step is writing down everything that you spend.  And then you take stock and see if there&#039;s anywhere you can easily cut expenditures (e.g no more movies), make hard cuts (e.g. move to a cheaper place/get a roommate) or if you should start looking for a new/second job.

I&#039;m also curious about how Tessa lives with no credit cards and no money for the last 2 weeks of the month?  If she&#039;s taking payday loans and paying those fees/interest rates, that could explain how she can never get ahead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Writers Coin &#8211; I think his recommendation of Your Money or Your Life handles lifestyle issues exceedingly well.  </p>
<p>I think the most important first step is writing down everything that you spend.  And then you take stock and see if there&#8217;s anywhere you can easily cut expenditures (e.g no more movies), make hard cuts (e.g. move to a cheaper place/get a roommate) or if you should start looking for a new/second job.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m also curious about how Tessa lives with no credit cards and no money for the last 2 weeks of the month?  If she&#8217;s taking payday loans and paying those fees/interest rates, that could explain how she can never get ahead.</p>
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		<title>By: deRuiter</title>
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		<dc:creator>deRuiter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 13:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lovely post Trent!  Thank you.  Suggest you make list of ten!  9. SELL, SELL, SELL ALL POSSESSIONS WHICH ARE NOT NAILED DOWN, I MEAN EVERYTHING!  Have yard sale, post on Craigslist, rent one day booth at flea market (no, no, must draw line at selling the kids!)  Take the money and pay on worst debt.  THIS IS ALL USED STUFF AND YOU CAN REPLACE IT CHEAPLY LATER AT OTHER YARD SALES.  #10. Get part time job.  You&#039;ll be busy working and not have time to spend frivolously, no recreational shopping.  Get job as waitress or bus boy, and you&#039;ll get a free meal at each shift.  I worked at a steak house for years, and took home the uneaten partial steaks for the dog instead of tossing them into the trash.  Dog was happy and healthy.  I spent very little on commercial dog food which is all corn meal anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lovely post Trent!  Thank you.  Suggest you make list of ten!  9. SELL, SELL, SELL ALL POSSESSIONS WHICH ARE NOT NAILED DOWN, I MEAN EVERYTHING!  Have yard sale, post on Craigslist, rent one day booth at flea market (no, no, must draw line at selling the kids!)  Take the money and pay on worst debt.  THIS IS ALL USED STUFF AND YOU CAN REPLACE IT CHEAPLY LATER AT OTHER YARD SALES.  #10. Get part time job.  You&#8217;ll be busy working and not have time to spend frivolously, no recreational shopping.  Get job as waitress or bus boy, and you&#8217;ll get a free meal at each shift.  I worked at a steak house for years, and took home the uneaten partial steaks for the dog instead of tossing them into the trash.  Dog was happy and healthy.  I spent very little on commercial dog food which is all corn meal anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: SammyG</title>
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		<dc:creator>SammyG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 09:54:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to use envelopes all the time.  
Now that I have a house and bigger payments, I got nervous have so much cash around each month.  Plus it wasn&#039;t earning interest.  Now I have envelopes on paper.

I don&#039;t like the solution so much since my wife and I both take from our &quot;envelopes&quot; and so it&#039;s hard to keep track of.

Just yesterday I thought of an online solution I&#039;m going to try.

We funnel most of our purchases (gas, groceries, etc) through our credit card for the rewards and then pay it off at the end of the month.  We get 1% or more toward our sons&#039; college fund.  So all of our dips into the envelopes are being tracked.

I&#039;ve been playing with mint.com.  It doesn&#039;t do everything but it let&#039;s you set up budgets with e-mail reminders.  I&#039;m going to set just a few budget items (like groceries) and have mint.com e-mail me (and my wife) when our &quot;envelope&quot; drops to 80%

I don&#039;t know if it will work, but it&#039;s worth a try.


80-10-10
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ghogiel,

Those are good general comments on the emergency fund - thanks!  Makes me feel better.

An 80-10-10 is a mortgage strategy in which you make a 10% downpayment on a house and then immediately borrow another 10% using your first 10% as collateral.  This usually takes the form of an equity line of credit.  You then take the borrowed 10% and use that to increase the total downpayment on the first mortgage to 20%.

So what you end up with is a first mortgage of 80%, a second mortgage of 10%, and it cost you a 10% downpayment out-of-pocket.  Plus all of your house tied up as collateral for the loans.

You might ask, &quot;Why in the world would anyone do such a thing?&quot;

In the states, if your downpayment is less than 20% then you must also buy mortgage insurance.  I don&#039;t remember the exact cost, but I recall that it was more then the total interest on the second mortgage - much more if you pay off the second mortgage fast.

Of course, it&#039;s better to save up a 20% downpayment to begin with.  But we had the 10% and were about to start better jobs where we knew we could pay off the second mortgage fast.  At the time, interest rates were low and so we jumped.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to use envelopes all the time.<br />
Now that I have a house and bigger payments, I got nervous have so much cash around each month.  Plus it wasn&#8217;t earning interest.  Now I have envelopes on paper.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t like the solution so much since my wife and I both take from our &#8220;envelopes&#8221; and so it&#8217;s hard to keep track of.</p>
<p>Just yesterday I thought of an online solution I&#8217;m going to try.</p>
<p>We funnel most of our purchases (gas, groceries, etc) through our credit card for the rewards and then pay it off at the end of the month.  We get 1% or more toward our sons&#8217; college fund.  So all of our dips into the envelopes are being tracked.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been playing with mint.com.  It doesn&#8217;t do everything but it let&#8217;s you set up budgets with e-mail reminders.  I&#8217;m going to set just a few budget items (like groceries) and have mint.com e-mail me (and my wife) when our &#8220;envelope&#8221; drops to 80%</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if it will work, but it&#8217;s worth a try.</p>
<p>80-10-10<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>ghogiel,</p>
<p>Those are good general comments on the emergency fund &#8211; thanks!  Makes me feel better.</p>
<p>An 80-10-10 is a mortgage strategy in which you make a 10% downpayment on a house and then immediately borrow another 10% using your first 10% as collateral.  This usually takes the form of an equity line of credit.  You then take the borrowed 10% and use that to increase the total downpayment on the first mortgage to 20%.</p>
<p>So what you end up with is a first mortgage of 80%, a second mortgage of 10%, and it cost you a 10% downpayment out-of-pocket.  Plus all of your house tied up as collateral for the loans.</p>
<p>You might ask, &#8220;Why in the world would anyone do such a thing?&#8221;</p>
<p>In the states, if your downpayment is less than 20% then you must also buy mortgage insurance.  I don&#8217;t remember the exact cost, but I recall that it was more then the total interest on the second mortgage &#8211; much more if you pay off the second mortgage fast.</p>
<p>Of course, it&#8217;s better to save up a 20% downpayment to begin with.  But we had the 10% and were about to start better jobs where we knew we could pay off the second mortgage fast.  At the time, interest rates were low and so we jumped.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
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		<description>Trent,

Perhaps you should take a leaf out of Ramit Sethi&#039;s book and make a &#039;directory&#039; post with links to your best and most useful posts. 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.iwillteachyoutoberich.com/blog/sf-chronicle-does-i-will-teach-you-to-be-rich-profile&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;
Example&lt;/a&gt;  When he gains new readers from somewhere, he just has to post that list and it gives them a great starting place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trent,</p>
<p>Perhaps you should take a leaf out of Ramit Sethi&#8217;s book and make a &#8216;directory&#8217; post with links to your best and most useful posts.<br />
<a href="http://www.iwillteachyoutoberich.com/blog/sf-chronicle-does-i-will-teach-you-to-be-rich-profile" rel="nofollow"><br />
Example</a>  When he gains new readers from somewhere, he just has to post that list and it gives them a great starting place.</p>
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		<title>By: Mrs. Micah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mrs. Micah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 02:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve found the 10 second and 30 day rules work wonders. I just put things on lists and then when I&#039;ve lived without them for some 30 days I ask whether I still really need them. And I ask if there are other ways to get them (libraries...which I might look into in the interim) or alternatives or if they can go on a Christmas list.

Oh, and I plan my grocery shopping and weekly menus. Food can add up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve found the 10 second and 30 day rules work wonders. I just put things on lists and then when I&#8217;ve lived without them for some 30 days I ask whether I still really need them. And I ask if there are other ways to get them (libraries&#8230;which I might look into in the interim) or alternatives or if they can go on a Christmas list.</p>
<p>Oh, and I plan my grocery shopping and weekly menus. Food can add up!</p>
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		<title>By: ghogiel</title>
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		<dc:creator>ghogiel</dc:creator>
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		<description>Hello Sammy,

Pretty much I&#039;m in the same boat as you are.
No, I do not think what you (we) are doing is wrong. There&#039;s nothing wrong w/ viewing the Extra Repayment on Mortgages as an emergency fund, (providing it&#039;s got good liquidity that you can make withdrawals anytime

The way I see emergency fund is nothing more or less than just another asset, except that it&#039;s:
- low risk
- high liquidity
- dont care about yields (it&#039;s emergency anyway !)
- preferably: low on costs (bank fees or.. taxes)

ING Direct fits all four attributes above... except that (in my case) the extra repayment on my mortgages offers more: interest from ING is taxable. Suppose ING&#039;s interest is 7% and the government takes 30% of it (mid-high range bracket in Australia), the nett is 7% * 0.7 = 4.9% interest only.

So for me~ rather than having to receive a smaller interesets on savings, I&#039;d rather have my money in the mortgage account for the following reasons:
- it offsets the loan interest.
- i agree w/ you on the liquidity, my mortgage extra repayment has the same liquidity as ING (=high liquidity, good for emergencies)
- dont have to pay for the taxes. Let the taxman asks for it from your lender instead !

Yes, I am pleased if you care to explain more about 80-10-10, Sammy -- I&#039;m from Australia and have no knowledge of that lingo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Sammy,</p>
<p>Pretty much I&#8217;m in the same boat as you are.<br />
No, I do not think what you (we) are doing is wrong. There&#8217;s nothing wrong w/ viewing the Extra Repayment on Mortgages as an emergency fund, (providing it&#8217;s got good liquidity that you can make withdrawals anytime</p>
<p>The way I see emergency fund is nothing more or less than just another asset, except that it&#8217;s:<br />
- low risk<br />
- high liquidity<br />
- dont care about yields (it&#8217;s emergency anyway !)<br />
- preferably: low on costs (bank fees or.. taxes)</p>
<p>ING Direct fits all four attributes above&#8230; except that (in my case) the extra repayment on my mortgages offers more: interest from ING is taxable. Suppose ING&#8217;s interest is 7% and the government takes 30% of it (mid-high range bracket in Australia), the nett is 7% * 0.7 = 4.9% interest only.</p>
<p>So for me~ rather than having to receive a smaller interesets on savings, I&#8217;d rather have my money in the mortgage account for the following reasons:<br />
- it offsets the loan interest.<br />
- i agree w/ you on the liquidity, my mortgage extra repayment has the same liquidity as ING (=high liquidity, good for emergencies)<br />
- dont have to pay for the taxes. Let the taxman asks for it from your lender instead !</p>
<p>Yes, I am pleased if you care to explain more about 80-10-10, Sammy &#8212; I&#8217;m from Australia and have no knowledge of that lingo.</p>
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		<title>By: Cat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 22:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe an idea is to go through some of your archives and add a new tag like &quot;basics&quot; or &quot;beginners&quot; as part of the impression I received that due to the vast amount of (terrific!) content, the reader had trouble actually locating the info she needed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe an idea is to go through some of your archives and add a new tag like &#8220;basics&#8221; or &#8220;beginners&#8221; as part of the impression I received that due to the vast amount of (terrific!) content, the reader had trouble actually locating the info she needed.</p>
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		<title>By: SammyG</title>
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		<dc:creator>SammyG</dc:creator>
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		<description>I have a question about the emergency fund.  I kept one until just recently.  

We bought our first house about three years ago.  It occurred to me one day while I was putting my monthly &quot;emergency&quot; fund into ING that I was still paying interest on a home equity line of credit that we opened when we bought the house.  (We did an 80-10-10 mortgage - which I can explain if anyone cares).

I decided to empty my ING account to pay down the equity line of credit.  Now my &quot;emergency&quot; fund goes into the equity loan.  A couple more months and that will be paid off and we&#039;ll start on ING again (or maybe pay extra on the first mortgage).

I consider the equity line of credit as my emergency fund since it&#039;s as fluid as the ING account.  I can transfer the money back to checking at any time.

Does anyone see anything wrong with 
this strategy?

I&#039;m actually &quot;earning&quot; more because the interest on the credit line is a little higher than ING.

Thanks
SammyG</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a question about the emergency fund.  I kept one until just recently.  </p>
<p>We bought our first house about three years ago.  It occurred to me one day while I was putting my monthly &#8220;emergency&#8221; fund into ING that I was still paying interest on a home equity line of credit that we opened when we bought the house.  (We did an 80-10-10 mortgage &#8211; which I can explain if anyone cares).</p>
<p>I decided to empty my ING account to pay down the equity line of credit.  Now my &#8220;emergency&#8221; fund goes into the equity loan.  A couple more months and that will be paid off and we&#8217;ll start on ING again (or maybe pay extra on the first mortgage).</p>
<p>I consider the equity line of credit as my emergency fund since it&#8217;s as fluid as the ING account.  I can transfer the money back to checking at any time.</p>
<p>Does anyone see anything wrong with<br />
this strategy?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m actually &#8220;earning&#8221; more because the interest on the credit line is a little higher than ING.</p>
<p>Thanks<br />
SammyG</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Madrid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Madrid</dc:creator>
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		<description>I want to second Trent&#039;s comment about cooking. My epiphany moment came when coming back from the market I decided to skip McDonalds and try cooking a meal at home. I was a blast, my biggest problem has now become eating all the food I cook. Thankfully a rash of births at church has keep me busy cooking meals for all the new moms.

Another time the Wife decided she wanted pancakes for breakfast and since pancake mix costs a fortune over here we decided to make it ourselves, easy as pie, why did I spend years buying pancake mix (needs only water and an egg). Never again

Also for shopping start using a price book (basically a list with prices noted) it should help shave 10-15% a week off your food budget.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to second Trent&#8217;s comment about cooking. My epiphany moment came when coming back from the market I decided to skip McDonalds and try cooking a meal at home. I was a blast, my biggest problem has now become eating all the food I cook. Thankfully a rash of births at church has keep me busy cooking meals for all the new moms.</p>
<p>Another time the Wife decided she wanted pancakes for breakfast and since pancake mix costs a fortune over here we decided to make it ourselves, easy as pie, why did I spend years buying pancake mix (needs only water and an egg). Never again</p>
<p>Also for shopping start using a price book (basically a list with prices noted) it should help shave 10-15% a week off your food budget.</p>
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