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	<title>Comments on: Margin, Faith, Personal Growth, and Personal Finance</title>
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		<title>By: anna</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2008/02/07/margin-faith-personal-growth-and-personal-finance/comment-page-1/#comment-763945</link>
		<dc:creator>anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 14:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Im trying to get my money on track my parents died when I was young and no one taught me the value of a dollar or how to mange my money need help what do you recommed?</description>
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		<title>By: Ashley</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2008/02/07/margin-faith-personal-growth-and-personal-finance/comment-page-1/#comment-179246</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 23:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel that what you write about, wiether or not religion is blatanly spoken about, speak about your moral character. I don&#039;t know what church you go to...etc, but I know that you have religion, I like to think Christian. That is why I can relate to your blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel that what you write about, wiether or not religion is blatanly spoken about, speak about your moral character. I don&#8217;t know what church you go to&#8230;etc, but I know that you have religion, I like to think Christian. That is why I can relate to your blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Penny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Penny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 22:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is funny and sad at the same time.  Everyone has a story and if you are defensive about anything it shows you lack love. I am fat because of a medical condition and in fact I can barely eat and yet some would judge me as a glutton and a sinner.  But judge not lest ye be judged. To better ones self starts with the inside out. People spend money from an emotional stance just like a smoker or an overeater or gambler etc. These are the things that separate us from our money, and one up on our fellow humans, as it one was worse than the other. I believe in God and I also believe in cause and effect.  Who cares what people think because it&#039;s always about a perception and not based on reality.  Reality is what brings us to the truth, if you can&#039;t be honest with yourself, then how can you fix anything, either faith, debt, health etc... You have to be present for the truth and accept it fully. That is what I love about Trent he is honest about his use of temperance and makes a conscience effort not to overspend. God Bless Us all. We need all the help we can get.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is funny and sad at the same time.  Everyone has a story and if you are defensive about anything it shows you lack love. I am fat because of a medical condition and in fact I can barely eat and yet some would judge me as a glutton and a sinner.  But judge not lest ye be judged. To better ones self starts with the inside out. People spend money from an emotional stance just like a smoker or an overeater or gambler etc. These are the things that separate us from our money, and one up on our fellow humans, as it one was worse than the other. I believe in God and I also believe in cause and effect.  Who cares what people think because it&#8217;s always about a perception and not based on reality.  Reality is what brings us to the truth, if you can&#8217;t be honest with yourself, then how can you fix anything, either faith, debt, health etc&#8230; You have to be present for the truth and accept it fully. That is what I love about Trent he is honest about his use of temperance and makes a conscience effort not to overspend. God Bless Us all. We need all the help we can get.</p>
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		<title>By: rhbee</title>
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		<dc:creator>rhbee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 21:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christ Almighty! as my Dad used to say.  Getting reasonable advice from any source makes sense but having that advice quoted dogmatically is what the whole upsettedness  is about.  Some Christians are like some smokers.  They don’t even realize that there really are side effects to their addiction.  So the smoker doesn’t notice he or she dropped a butt outside your door and still has ashes on his or her shirt, and the Christian doesn’t realize that his or her audience has heard the same old same old, like that fellow poster from Texas, ad nauseum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christ Almighty! as my Dad used to say.  Getting reasonable advice from any source makes sense but having that advice quoted dogmatically is what the whole upsettedness  is about.  Some Christians are like some smokers.  They don’t even realize that there really are side effects to their addiction.  So the smoker doesn’t notice he or she dropped a butt outside your door and still has ashes on his or her shirt, and the Christian doesn’t realize that his or her audience has heard the same old same old, like that fellow poster from Texas, ad nauseum.</p>
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		<title>By: tubaman-z</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2008/02/07/margin-faith-personal-growth-and-personal-finance/comment-page-1/#comment-176916</link>
		<dc:creator>tubaman-z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 18:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I share my faith with someone, it is a sharing of my life experience.  It is neither right nor wrong, it is my experience.  I can absolutely state that as a Christian, my life is far from perfect.  I have problems and issues, but as I have sought to follow the teachings of my faith, I have far fewer problems of my own creation than I see in the general populace.  Again, this is my personal experience.  There are very notable examples of professed Christians who have caused themselves significant personal problems due to poor choices.  While this saddens me I do recognize that we&#039;re all human and thus fallible.

@Vic - +1 on your comment re: Joel Osteen and his prosperity gospel.

@BigRed - I too am interested in Islamic law and finances, in particular it&#039;s treatment of interest.  No interest is an interesting concept :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I share my faith with someone, it is a sharing of my life experience.  It is neither right nor wrong, it is my experience.  I can absolutely state that as a Christian, my life is far from perfect.  I have problems and issues, but as I have sought to follow the teachings of my faith, I have far fewer problems of my own creation than I see in the general populace.  Again, this is my personal experience.  There are very notable examples of professed Christians who have caused themselves significant personal problems due to poor choices.  While this saddens me I do recognize that we&#8217;re all human and thus fallible.</p>
<p>@Vic &#8211; +1 on your comment re: Joel Osteen and his prosperity gospel.</p>
<p>@BigRed &#8211; I too am interested in Islamic law and finances, in particular it&#8217;s treatment of interest.  No interest is an interesting concept :-)</p>
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		<title>By: tubaman-z</title>
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		<dc:creator>tubaman-z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 18:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@daydreamr,

Not to nitpick, but actually it was Peter who denied knowing Christ.  Judas betrayed him to the chief priests which led to his arrest, his condemnation and his crucifixion.</description>
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<p>Not to nitpick, but actually it was Peter who denied knowing Christ.  Judas betrayed him to the chief priests which led to his arrest, his condemnation and his crucifixion.</p>
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		<title>By: Chad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 17:16:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good post Trent!  I&#039;m anxious for the review.  

I certainly don&#039;t understand all the tip-toeing about on religion but I think the heads-up is a good courtesy to your readers.

My question is this: why is this sort-of question generally so one-sided?  In other words, why do so many of you think of religion shoving things down your throat and not think of anyone who holds to any position at all &quot;shoving things down your throat?&quot;  How is writing on and exploring things from a faith-based point of view &quot;shoving things down&quot; anyone&#039;s throat?  Have we come so far that we must apologize anytime we invoke religion, faith, or God?  Is that true tolerance?  I don&#039;t know of anybody that writes a post and says up-front: &quot;Now be careful, I&#039;m going to post from my secular, liberal point-of-view and I don&#039;t want to offend those of you who do not hold that point-of-view.&quot;  

The idea that we must apologize for what we believe, whether liberal or conservative, religious or non-religious, troubles me.  We should be willing to consider the truth of another position and hear someone out from their perspective.  Responding with &quot;don&#039;t shove that down my throat&quot; to another person speaking forthrightly, firmly but considerately and clearly from their point-of-view is not true tolerance but shallow and lazy.  If you&#039;re truly open-minded and tolerant, then &quot;put your money where your mouth is&quot; and give an ear.  Just a thought.

Anyways, I think we all need to understand the significance of our own &quot;worldviews&quot; and recognize that none of us operate from a completely value-free, unstructured, frameless mindset.  Nor do anyone of else really hold that all worldviews are equal and exchangable.  Push all of us to the limit and we would like to think that our worldview is true or that we at least hold to some basic true beliefs, anyone who doesn&#039;t is either willing to live in cartoon-land or has some serious angst issues.  I recommend James Sires, &quot;The Universe Next Door.&quot;

Keep up the great blogging!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post Trent!  I&#8217;m anxious for the review.  </p>
<p>I certainly don&#8217;t understand all the tip-toeing about on religion but I think the heads-up is a good courtesy to your readers.</p>
<p>My question is this: why is this sort-of question generally so one-sided?  In other words, why do so many of you think of religion shoving things down your throat and not think of anyone who holds to any position at all &#8220;shoving things down your throat?&#8221;  How is writing on and exploring things from a faith-based point of view &#8220;shoving things down&#8221; anyone&#8217;s throat?  Have we come so far that we must apologize anytime we invoke religion, faith, or God?  Is that true tolerance?  I don&#8217;t know of anybody that writes a post and says up-front: &#8220;Now be careful, I&#8217;m going to post from my secular, liberal point-of-view and I don&#8217;t want to offend those of you who do not hold that point-of-view.&#8221;  </p>
<p>The idea that we must apologize for what we believe, whether liberal or conservative, religious or non-religious, troubles me.  We should be willing to consider the truth of another position and hear someone out from their perspective.  Responding with &#8220;don&#8217;t shove that down my throat&#8221; to another person speaking forthrightly, firmly but considerately and clearly from their point-of-view is not true tolerance but shallow and lazy.  If you&#8217;re truly open-minded and tolerant, then &#8220;put your money where your mouth is&#8221; and give an ear.  Just a thought.</p>
<p>Anyways, I think we all need to understand the significance of our own &#8220;worldviews&#8221; and recognize that none of us operate from a completely value-free, unstructured, frameless mindset.  Nor do anyone of else really hold that all worldviews are equal and exchangable.  Push all of us to the limit and we would like to think that our worldview is true or that we at least hold to some basic true beliefs, anyone who doesn&#8217;t is either willing to live in cartoon-land or has some serious angst issues.  I recommend James Sires, &#8220;The Universe Next Door.&#8221;</p>
<p>Keep up the great blogging!</p>
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		<title>By: fathersez</title>
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		<dc:creator>fathersez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 16:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a Muslim and I like reading about what other faiths say about PF. 

Like one of the earlier commenters said, a good idea is good, irrespective of where it originated.

You are a preacher of good PF habits and practices, and if you need to quote or relate to references which include religious texts, by all means.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a Muslim and I like reading about what other faiths say about PF. </p>
<p>Like one of the earlier commenters said, a good idea is good, irrespective of where it originated.</p>
<p>You are a preacher of good PF habits and practices, and if you need to quote or relate to references which include religious texts, by all means.</p>
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		<title>By: daydreamr</title>
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		<dc:creator>daydreamr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 16:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s sad that we have come to this point. We live in fear of offending someone. Even in AA, where the program is centered around a higher power...using God as a generic name for this higher power now offends people. So now they are starting to say that GOD stands for Group Of Drunks. How pathetic is that? We are a bunch of whinney little cry-babies! I know that religion is a touchy subject but, if something compells you than don;t deny it. You don&#039;t have to &quot;shove religion down someone&#039;s throat&quot; but you shouldn&#039;t compromise your beliefs or pretend to be someone/thing your not because you&#039;re worried that it will make you less popular. Take Judas for example. He denied even knowing Christ!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s sad that we have come to this point. We live in fear of offending someone. Even in AA, where the program is centered around a higher power&#8230;using God as a generic name for this higher power now offends people. So now they are starting to say that GOD stands for Group Of Drunks. How pathetic is that? We are a bunch of whinney little cry-babies! I know that religion is a touchy subject but, if something compells you than don;t deny it. You don&#8217;t have to &#8220;shove religion down someone&#8217;s throat&#8221; but you shouldn&#8217;t compromise your beliefs or pretend to be someone/thing your not because you&#8217;re worried that it will make you less popular. Take Judas for example. He denied even knowing Christ!</p>
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		<title>By: ngthagg</title>
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		<dc:creator>ngthagg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 10:36:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I look at it this way:  

This blog is a personal finance blog.  If you were to decide to not review a personal finance book because it contains Christian theology and teachings, then you are moving your blog from personal finance to something else entirely.  Instead of making a statement on personal finance (which is the whole reason I come here), you are making a statement on the value of Christian content.

I&#039;m glad you&#039;re going to review this book.  And I think it&#039;s worth pointing out that you seemed to have no problem reviewing &quot;Your Money or Your Life&quot; despite it&#039;s &quot;New Age-y&quot; themes.  I doubt there could be any good arguments for including New Age thinking in personal finance while excluding Christian thinking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I look at it this way:  </p>
<p>This blog is a personal finance blog.  If you were to decide to not review a personal finance book because it contains Christian theology and teachings, then you are moving your blog from personal finance to something else entirely.  Instead of making a statement on personal finance (which is the whole reason I come here), you are making a statement on the value of Christian content.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad you&#8217;re going to review this book.  And I think it&#8217;s worth pointing out that you seemed to have no problem reviewing &#8220;Your Money or Your Life&#8221; despite it&#8217;s &#8220;New Age-y&#8221; themes.  I doubt there could be any good arguments for including New Age thinking in personal finance while excluding Christian thinking.</p>
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		<title>By: Jen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 10:12:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I look forward to the review. I may have to search this one out at our biweekly library visit tomorrow.

While I understand your reasons for not doing it so far, I applaud your willingness to open the discussion up to matters of faith as it relates to financial management. And I would still applaud even if I did not share your beliefs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I look forward to the review. I may have to search this one out at our biweekly library visit tomorrow.</p>
<p>While I understand your reasons for not doing it so far, I applaud your willingness to open the discussion up to matters of faith as it relates to financial management. And I would still applaud even if I did not share your beliefs.</p>
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		<title>By: reulte</title>
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		<dc:creator>reulte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 09:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick and Vic - regarding your statement and agreement of 
     &quot;Second, reading through these comments, there is a lot of close-mindedness and bigotry here. Comments like “I don’t think a personal finance book is any place for a religious agenda.” and “As a non-Christian, little bells go off in my head whenever faith is mentioned.” This just shows preconceived notions and judgements about people without even listening to them.&quot;

I&#039;m sorry to disagree with you, but I couldn&#039;t agree less with that statement.

Most of the close-mindedness and bigotry I encounter comes from Christians beating me over the head (usually metaphorically) with their religious diatribe.  Your comment that &#039;no alarm bells go off in your head&#039; simply indicates that you are part of the vocal majority religion held in this land.  What to you is &#039;preconceived notions and judgements&#039; is to myself and other people simply experience.

I do look forward to both Trent&#039;s review of and my own reading of Margin and I am grateful when Trent mentiones his faith in his posts - they add to a more complete view of his personality and present more of a context in what he says.  I don&#039;t see him as ashamed of his faith (your words) but as considerate of his readers -- not all of whom share his religious faith, but do share many of his experiences and goals in the financial matters of their life.  

&quot;You are correct when you say that a simple mention of religion is NOT a religious agenda.  But it rarely stops at a simple mention and, sadly, usually develops into a heated agenda-laden argument rather than a wonderful discussion of philosophical differences and religious similarities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick and Vic &#8211; regarding your statement and agreement of<br />
     &#8220;Second, reading through these comments, there is a lot of close-mindedness and bigotry here. Comments like “I don’t think a personal finance book is any place for a religious agenda.” and “As a non-Christian, little bells go off in my head whenever faith is mentioned.” This just shows preconceived notions and judgements about people without even listening to them.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry to disagree with you, but I couldn&#8217;t agree less with that statement.</p>
<p>Most of the close-mindedness and bigotry I encounter comes from Christians beating me over the head (usually metaphorically) with their religious diatribe.  Your comment that &#8216;no alarm bells go off in your head&#8217; simply indicates that you are part of the vocal majority religion held in this land.  What to you is &#8216;preconceived notions and judgements&#8217; is to myself and other people simply experience.</p>
<p>I do look forward to both Trent&#8217;s review of and my own reading of Margin and I am grateful when Trent mentiones his faith in his posts &#8211; they add to a more complete view of his personality and present more of a context in what he says.  I don&#8217;t see him as ashamed of his faith (your words) but as considerate of his readers &#8212; not all of whom share his religious faith, but do share many of his experiences and goals in the financial matters of their life.  </p>
<p>&#8220;You are correct when you say that a simple mention of religion is NOT a religious agenda.  But it rarely stops at a simple mention and, sadly, usually develops into a heated agenda-laden argument rather than a wonderful discussion of philosophical differences and religious similarities.</p>
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		<title>By: RR</title>
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		<dc:creator>RR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 03:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Religion kept me from reading Dave Ramsey&#039;s books for a long time. In fact, it wasn&#039;t until I became a practicing Catholic that I read his books, and loved them. He did include his religion in them, because it had inspired him. Thanks for noting why you hesitated on this particular book, and please do bring us a full review in the future!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Religion kept me from reading Dave Ramsey&#8217;s books for a long time. In fact, it wasn&#8217;t until I became a practicing Catholic that I read his books, and loved them. He did include his religion in them, because it had inspired him. Thanks for noting why you hesitated on this particular book, and please do bring us a full review in the future!</p>
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		<title>By: JeffO</title>
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		<dc:creator>JeffO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 03:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trent, I look forward to your review, as should others.  My wife just returned from her Cardiologist 3 weeks ago with a &quot;Prescription&quot; fro her Dr. to read this very book.  The book will save many over-stressed lives from a pre-mature death.  Religious or not -- the book carries very timely advice for our overly high-tech, multi-tasking, efficiency obsessed culture we live in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trent, I look forward to your review, as should others.  My wife just returned from her Cardiologist 3 weeks ago with a &#8220;Prescription&#8221; fro her Dr. to read this very book.  The book will save many over-stressed lives from a pre-mature death.  Religious or not &#8212; the book carries very timely advice for our overly high-tech, multi-tasking, efficiency obsessed culture we live in.</p>
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		<title>By: Vic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 00:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick, beautifully stated!  And in such an articulate manner.  

&quot;This just shows preconceived notions and judgements about people without even listening to them.&quot;

I couldn&#039;t agree more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick, beautifully stated!  And in such an articulate manner.  </p>
<p>&#8220;This just shows preconceived notions and judgements about people without even listening to them.&#8221;</p>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t agree more.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 23:44:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reading through this post and all the comments was rather interesting. First of all, Trent, don&#039;t be ashamed of your faith. I too am very non-confrontational, but I believe in a lot of things, and I&#039;m willing to share these beliefs with others. I believe in a particular candidate for president. I believe in several principles regarding finances and money. I believe in various political policies. I have a faith in God. People are allowed to believe in something and even share their excitement about this with others! 

Second, reading through these comments, there is a lot of close-mindedness and bigotry here. Comments like &quot;I don’t think a personal finance book is any place for a religious agenda.&quot; and &quot;As a non-Christian, little bells go off in my head whenever faith is mentioned.&quot; This just shows preconceived notions and judgements about people without even listening to them. People need to be very open-minded, and yet very firm in their beliefs. If someone mentions God or atheism to me, no alarm bells go off in my head. And the simple mention is religion does not indicate a religious agenda. People need to listen to others, understand where others are coming from, and understand what other people believe in. There&#039;s a huge different between being open-minded and wishy-washy. We don&#039;t need to be the latter. We have the right -- and even the responsibility -- to be firm in our beliefs. We need to debate our beliefs politely with others, and work with each other towards the betterment of society and ourselves. This might involve incorporating religious beliefs, and it might involve incorporating non-religious philosophical beliefs. But please don&#039;t be judgemental and bigoted towards others simply because they hold a belief you don&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading through this post and all the comments was rather interesting. First of all, Trent, don&#8217;t be ashamed of your faith. I too am very non-confrontational, but I believe in a lot of things, and I&#8217;m willing to share these beliefs with others. I believe in a particular candidate for president. I believe in several principles regarding finances and money. I believe in various political policies. I have a faith in God. People are allowed to believe in something and even share their excitement about this with others! </p>
<p>Second, reading through these comments, there is a lot of close-mindedness and bigotry here. Comments like &#8220;I don’t think a personal finance book is any place for a religious agenda.&#8221; and &#8220;As a non-Christian, little bells go off in my head whenever faith is mentioned.&#8221; This just shows preconceived notions and judgements about people without even listening to them. People need to be very open-minded, and yet very firm in their beliefs. If someone mentions God or atheism to me, no alarm bells go off in my head. And the simple mention is religion does not indicate a religious agenda. People need to listen to others, understand where others are coming from, and understand what other people believe in. There&#8217;s a huge different between being open-minded and wishy-washy. We don&#8217;t need to be the latter. We have the right &#8212; and even the responsibility &#8212; to be firm in our beliefs. We need to debate our beliefs politely with others, and work with each other towards the betterment of society and ourselves. This might involve incorporating religious beliefs, and it might involve incorporating non-religious philosophical beliefs. But please don&#8217;t be judgemental and bigoted towards others simply because they hold a belief you don&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: money_me</title>
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		<dc:creator>money_me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 21:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting review, Trent. Faith cuts across through so many parts of our lives. I think most religions (at least the major ones) also advise against greed. What has made people debt-leaden is greed, envy, deception (where they refuse to accept that they cannot afford something). They deceive themselves saying they will be able to pay later and before they know it debt builds up. even obesity has a strong correlation with greed (over-eating). Then come the big houses, big cars, collecting &#039;stuff&#039; etc.

No matter what faith or no faith, like you said, one would be foolish not to draw wisdom where it is available. You are doing great, keep it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting review, Trent. Faith cuts across through so many parts of our lives. I think most religions (at least the major ones) also advise against greed. What has made people debt-leaden is greed, envy, deception (where they refuse to accept that they cannot afford something). They deceive themselves saying they will be able to pay later and before they know it debt builds up. even obesity has a strong correlation with greed (over-eating). Then come the big houses, big cars, collecting &#8217;stuff&#8217; etc.</p>
<p>No matter what faith or no faith, like you said, one would be foolish not to draw wisdom where it is available. You are doing great, keep it up.</p>
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		<title>By: money_me</title>
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		<dc:creator>money_me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 21:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting review, Trent. Faith cuts across through so many parts of our lives. I think most religions (at least the major ones) also advise against greed. What has made people debt-leaden is greed, envy, deception (where they refuse to accept that they cannot afford something). They deceive themselves saying they will be able to pay later and before they know it debt builds up. even obesity has a strong correlation with greed (over-eating). Then come the big houses, big cars, colelsting &#039;stuff&#039; etc.

No matter what faith or no faith, like you said, one would be follish not to draw wisdom where it is available. You are doing great, keep it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting review, Trent. Faith cuts across through so many parts of our lives. I think most religions (at least the major ones) also advise against greed. What has made people debt-leaden is greed, envy, deception (where they refuse to accept that they cannot afford something). They deceive themselves saying they will be able to pay later and before they know it debt builds up. even obesity has a strong correlation with greed (over-eating). Then come the big houses, big cars, colelsting &#8217;stuff&#8217; etc.</p>
<p>No matter what faith or no faith, like you said, one would be follish not to draw wisdom where it is available. You are doing great, keep it up.</p>
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		<title>By: Mrs. Micah</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2008/02/07/margin-faith-personal-growth-and-personal-finance/comment-page-1/#comment-176291</link>
		<dc:creator>Mrs. Micah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 21:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I look forward to hearing about it.

Honestly as a Christian I hate most Christian living books.

I often feel like they put too much pressure on people to be a particular way, they simplify complex issues and make people feel left out (Christians, I mean), etc. They act as if being a Christian solves all your problems...forgetting so many people with strong faith who have battled depression and feelings of abandonment even by God. There you have it..

The reason I look forward to reading about this on your blog is a) Life balance is definitely an issue for me. b) I think you&#039;ll be presenting the best parts of the book and not in the fashion which drives me away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I look forward to hearing about it.</p>
<p>Honestly as a Christian I hate most Christian living books.</p>
<p>I often feel like they put too much pressure on people to be a particular way, they simplify complex issues and make people feel left out (Christians, I mean), etc. They act as if being a Christian solves all your problems&#8230;forgetting so many people with strong faith who have battled depression and feelings of abandonment even by God. There you have it..</p>
<p>The reason I look forward to reading about this on your blog is a) Life balance is definitely an issue for me. b) I think you&#8217;ll be presenting the best parts of the book and not in the fashion which drives me away.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2008/02/07/margin-faith-personal-growth-and-personal-finance/comment-page-1/#comment-176248</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 19:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as your faith, I think you hit good points and just want to illustrate religion has its place in society, despite anyone&#039;s personal beliefs.  But you should express your beliefs here, we&#039;re coming her to read about -your- experience and how you got to where you are.  If that includes being a Christian, so be it.

As far as the book, sounds interesting and more or less up my alley.  For the last year or so, I&#039;ve been pushing to create a more peaceful life.  I went from being a commercial video editor working from 9am - 8pm most nights, frequently worked overtime until 1-2am, and even worked 32 hour shifts straight at some points.  I had clients who were abusive, workaholics, some even cried, and others who had no business ethics.  So I put a major focus on slowing down, finding writing work, and getting to know my true goals and happiness.  So far, it&#039;s been great.

www.theinnovativetraveler.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as your faith, I think you hit good points and just want to illustrate religion has its place in society, despite anyone&#8217;s personal beliefs.  But you should express your beliefs here, we&#8217;re coming her to read about -your- experience and how you got to where you are.  If that includes being a Christian, so be it.</p>
<p>As far as the book, sounds interesting and more or less up my alley.  For the last year or so, I&#8217;ve been pushing to create a more peaceful life.  I went from being a commercial video editor working from 9am &#8211; 8pm most nights, frequently worked overtime until 1-2am, and even worked 32 hour shifts straight at some points.  I had clients who were abusive, workaholics, some even cried, and others who had no business ethics.  So I put a major focus on slowing down, finding writing work, and getting to know my true goals and happiness.  So far, it&#8217;s been great.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theinnovativetraveler.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.theinnovativetraveler.com</a></p>
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