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		<title>By: E.D. Gordon</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2008/03/24/is-success-a-choice/comment-page-2/#comment-458601</link>
		<dc:creator>E.D. Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 16:28:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you haven&#039;t read it yet, Malcom Gladwell&#039;s &quot;Outliers&quot; has some very interesting perspectives on success and how it happens.. and doesn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you haven&#8217;t read it yet, Malcom Gladwell&#8217;s &#8220;Outliers&#8221; has some very interesting perspectives on success and how it happens.. and doesn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Shane</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2008/03/24/is-success-a-choice/comment-page-2/#comment-309898</link>
		<dc:creator>Shane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 21:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just reading this post and the comments for the first time. I&#039;m a little late to join the fray, but this discussion really moved me to say something.
I&#039;m often conflicted about defining success as a choice, given that clearly there are cases where no matter how hard someone tries, how positive and motivated they are, there is a limit to how successful they can be.
I grew up poor, by US standards at least. Compared to the opportunities available to others in my generation, I lacked for a lot. I caught a few lucky breaks along the way, and got help at key moments from a few generous people. I don&#039;t take credit for these things - I didn&#039;t choose them or earn them. But I do take credit for making the most of them. 
I&#039;m more successful now, in terms of earning potential and in so many other ways, than I ever thought possible. And I know that a lot of that success is directly attributable to my choices and my efforts. 
Yes, if I&#039;d been born into more propitious circumstances, I might be even more successful now. Yes, the bad hand I was dealt did set me back some. But the bottom line is, it was not the ultimate factor, nor even one of the most important factors, determining what I&#039;ve been able to achieve.
I don&#039;t see the use in bemoaning circumstances that are not likely to change. That&#039;s not to say that I don&#039;t think we should do something about the inequitable distribution of resources. But I definitely don&#039;t think we should disavow the possibility of personal agency to the point that it rules out productive action.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just reading this post and the comments for the first time. I&#8217;m a little late to join the fray, but this discussion really moved me to say something.<br />
I&#8217;m often conflicted about defining success as a choice, given that clearly there are cases where no matter how hard someone tries, how positive and motivated they are, there is a limit to how successful they can be.<br />
I grew up poor, by US standards at least. Compared to the opportunities available to others in my generation, I lacked for a lot. I caught a few lucky breaks along the way, and got help at key moments from a few generous people. I don&#8217;t take credit for these things &#8211; I didn&#8217;t choose them or earn them. But I do take credit for making the most of them.<br />
I&#8217;m more successful now, in terms of earning potential and in so many other ways, than I ever thought possible. And I know that a lot of that success is directly attributable to my choices and my efforts.<br />
Yes, if I&#8217;d been born into more propitious circumstances, I might be even more successful now. Yes, the bad hand I was dealt did set me back some. But the bottom line is, it was not the ultimate factor, nor even one of the most important factors, determining what I&#8217;ve been able to achieve.<br />
I don&#8217;t see the use in bemoaning circumstances that are not likely to change. That&#8217;s not to say that I don&#8217;t think we should do something about the inequitable distribution of resources. But I definitely don&#8217;t think we should disavow the possibility of personal agency to the point that it rules out productive action.</p>
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		<title>By: Leslie M-B</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2008/03/24/is-success-a-choice/comment-page-2/#comment-214850</link>
		<dc:creator>Leslie M-B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 02:33:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Sandoz76.  Trent, where do systemic racism and sexism figure into your post?

I&#039;ve worked hard over the years and certainly made some good choices, but the fact that I started life middle-class and white definitely has given me many privileges that others do not have.  Similarly, I have met people who seek to limit my choices because I am a woman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Sandoz76.  Trent, where do systemic racism and sexism figure into your post?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve worked hard over the years and certainly made some good choices, but the fact that I started life middle-class and white definitely has given me many privileges that others do not have.  Similarly, I have met people who seek to limit my choices because I am a woman.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandoz76</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2008/03/24/is-success-a-choice/comment-page-2/#comment-213020</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandoz76</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 13:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is starkly naive to think that some people don&#039;t have more choices than others.  A lot of success happens through informal networks.  A golfing buddy refers another golfing buddy for a VP-ship.  Many golf courses segregate female and male playing times, nice.  Therefore, women have fewer choices.  The same is true for minorities.
That said, I am a successful woman with a position of power in the technology industry.  I did that by working twice as hard as the people around me.  That was a choice, it led to success, but I also see the free passes completely incompetent men get around me, while other women and minorities are judged very harshly for the smallest upsets, or for merely asserting themselves. Before you congratulate yourself on your successful choices too much, get over yourself and realize that some of us are presented with more choices than others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is starkly naive to think that some people don&#8217;t have more choices than others.  A lot of success happens through informal networks.  A golfing buddy refers another golfing buddy for a VP-ship.  Many golf courses segregate female and male playing times, nice.  Therefore, women have fewer choices.  The same is true for minorities.<br />
That said, I am a successful woman with a position of power in the technology industry.  I did that by working twice as hard as the people around me.  That was a choice, it led to success, but I also see the free passes completely incompetent men get around me, while other women and minorities are judged very harshly for the smallest upsets, or for merely asserting themselves. Before you congratulate yourself on your successful choices too much, get over yourself and realize that some of us are presented with more choices than others.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Lippard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Lippard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 00:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If success is a choice, why do so many people end up in the same socioeconomic circumstances as their parents?&quot;

Define &quot;so many.&quot;  There is actually huge income mobility within the U.S. economy.  Note that the Gini coefficient is a measure of inequality at a point in time, not of mobility.  I think it&#039;s reasonable to tolerate a fairly high Gini measure, if in return you get a booming economy and a high degree of economic mobility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If success is a choice, why do so many people end up in the same socioeconomic circumstances as their parents?&#8221;</p>
<p>Define &#8220;so many.&#8221;  There is actually huge income mobility within the U.S. economy.  Note that the Gini coefficient is a measure of inequality at a point in time, not of mobility.  I think it&#8217;s reasonable to tolerate a fairly high Gini measure, if in return you get a booming economy and a high degree of economic mobility.</p>
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		<title>By: kenttuckyliz</title>
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		<dc:creator>kenttuckyliz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 13:34:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What do you want?
What are you doing to get it?
How is that working out for you?
What are you going to do differently for better results?

Answer those four questions and you&#039;re well on your way to success as you define it for yourself.

Fave quote:
&quot;Luck is preparation meeting opportunity.&quot;

The losers and the slackers always &quot;blame&quot; the success of others on luck...totally ignoring the hard work that went into it...because then they aren&#039;t faced with the cold hard fact of their own lack of said hard work.

Re the poor, a great book about learned helplessness is Ruby Payne&#039;s Understanding the Framework of Poverty.  A lot of the thought patterns and habits of the poor keep them poor.  Even if they had all the lucky breaks in the world, if they don&#039;t start thinking differently, they&#039;ll not be successful.

Part of my work involves helping poor people become successful, and we talk about the thought patterns and habits that hold them back and what needs to change to bring about success.  Instead of just writing them off as hopeless and stuck and unlucky, I&#039;m actually doing something about it.

That being said, there are some poor people who are successful at being poor and working the system and being proud of that.  They work hard at not having to work and feel sorry for the sell-outs who have to kowtow to The Man.  If life ever dealt me an unending string of bad luck and I ended up destitute, I&#039;d seek these people as my coaches and mentors about how to be poor successfully because they&#039;re really good at it.

Caveat:  poor is not the same as broke.  I&#039;ve been broke but I&#039;ve never been poor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do you want?<br />
What are you doing to get it?<br />
How is that working out for you?<br />
What are you going to do differently for better results?</p>
<p>Answer those four questions and you&#8217;re well on your way to success as you define it for yourself.</p>
<p>Fave quote:<br />
&#8220;Luck is preparation meeting opportunity.&#8221;</p>
<p>The losers and the slackers always &#8220;blame&#8221; the success of others on luck&#8230;totally ignoring the hard work that went into it&#8230;because then they aren&#8217;t faced with the cold hard fact of their own lack of said hard work.</p>
<p>Re the poor, a great book about learned helplessness is Ruby Payne&#8217;s Understanding the Framework of Poverty.  A lot of the thought patterns and habits of the poor keep them poor.  Even if they had all the lucky breaks in the world, if they don&#8217;t start thinking differently, they&#8217;ll not be successful.</p>
<p>Part of my work involves helping poor people become successful, and we talk about the thought patterns and habits that hold them back and what needs to change to bring about success.  Instead of just writing them off as hopeless and stuck and unlucky, I&#8217;m actually doing something about it.</p>
<p>That being said, there are some poor people who are successful at being poor and working the system and being proud of that.  They work hard at not having to work and feel sorry for the sell-outs who have to kowtow to The Man.  If life ever dealt me an unending string of bad luck and I ended up destitute, I&#8217;d seek these people as my coaches and mentors about how to be poor successfully because they&#8217;re really good at it.</p>
<p>Caveat:  poor is not the same as broke.  I&#8217;ve been broke but I&#8217;ve never been poor.</p>
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		<title>By: Financialgal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Financialgal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 00:15:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post.  Deciding to be successful is absolutely a choice.  You can choose to hide in your house and decide not to go after what you want because you are afraid.  Or you decide to have an open mind, set goals, and stay focused.  The definition of success is different for everyone, but if you pursue your goals with determination, you will realize success.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post.  Deciding to be successful is absolutely a choice.  You can choose to hide in your house and decide not to go after what you want because you are afraid.  Or you decide to have an open mind, set goals, and stay focused.  The definition of success is different for everyone, but if you pursue your goals with determination, you will realize success.</p>
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		<title>By: Duff</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2008/03/24/is-success-a-choice/comment-page-2/#comment-211230</link>
		<dc:creator>Duff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 22:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Success for whom? In what context? What is the desired outcome? A choice between what and what?

&quot;Success&quot; is not a choice or an outcome--it is a nominalization. So is &quot;choice.&quot;

Who is choosing to do what successfully?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Success for whom? In what context? What is the desired outcome? A choice between what and what?</p>
<p>&#8220;Success&#8221; is not a choice or an outcome&#8211;it is a nominalization. So is &#8220;choice.&#8221;</p>
<p>Who is choosing to do what successfully?</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 21:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What an amazing post.   I&#039;ve been trying to tell this to my friends for years.  Success can come to ANYONE.  IT&#039;s what you do to achieve it.  Are you sittin on your butt all day or are you out there education yourself?

There&#039;s one word people can&#039;t act on and it&#039;s action.  People love to dream about thier goals but they never even take the first important step to do so.  Instead, they get into that comfort zone and stick there making a decent salary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What an amazing post.   I&#8217;ve been trying to tell this to my friends for years.  Success can come to ANYONE.  IT&#8217;s what you do to achieve it.  Are you sittin on your butt all day or are you out there education yourself?</p>
<p>There&#8217;s one word people can&#8217;t act on and it&#8217;s action.  People love to dream about thier goals but they never even take the first important step to do so.  Instead, they get into that comfort zone and stick there making a decent salary.</p>
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		<title>By: K12Linux</title>
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		<dc:creator>K12Linux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 20:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My father&#039;s definition of success.  &quot;When you are able to make a living doing something you enjoy without sacrificing your family life.&quot;  And the 2nd part, &quot;If you can make a lot of money at it, even better.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My father&#8217;s definition of success.  &#8220;When you are able to make a living doing something you enjoy without sacrificing your family life.&#8221;  And the 2nd part, &#8220;If you can make a lot of money at it, even better.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: H-Bomb</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2008/03/24/is-success-a-choice/comment-page-2/#comment-211162</link>
		<dc:creator>H-Bomb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 20:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KellyKelly-
This was an amazing quote!

“Success” is not a choice, it’s an outcome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KellyKelly-<br />
This was an amazing quote!</p>
<p>“Success” is not a choice, it’s an outcome.</p>
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		<title>By: clevelis</title>
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		<dc:creator>clevelis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 19:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Largely true.  Success is a choice.  However, success means different things to different people, as there are also multiple levels/aspects of success.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Largely true.  Success is a choice.  However, success means different things to different people, as there are also multiple levels/aspects of success.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 18:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I consider anyone who works all day and finds some satisfaction in doing a good job a success.  It seems very self-congratulatory for people with college degrees to consider themselves to be automatically &quot;more successful&quot; than others.  

Sure, I worked hard for 6 years to get a college degree and a master&#039;s degree, but does that mean that someone who spent those same 6 years working in a factory didn&#039;t work just as hard as I did?  Is my work automatically more useful to society than that of a hard-working laborer?  Why can&#039;t we both be seen as equally successful?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I consider anyone who works all day and finds some satisfaction in doing a good job a success.  It seems very self-congratulatory for people with college degrees to consider themselves to be automatically &#8220;more successful&#8221; than others.  </p>
<p>Sure, I worked hard for 6 years to get a college degree and a master&#8217;s degree, but does that mean that someone who spent those same 6 years working in a factory didn&#8217;t work just as hard as I did?  Is my work automatically more useful to society than that of a hard-working laborer?  Why can&#8217;t we both be seen as equally successful?</p>
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		<title>By: Lauren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lauren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 18:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trent,

I think this is one of your best pieces ever! Very inspiring. I think it would be great to add a lit of people who succeeded against insurmountable odds. Off the top of my head I can think of Oprah and Lance Armstrong. But there are so many lesser know examples. FOr instance, the first man to boat the Grand Canyon only had one arm. 

ALso, last night I saw an amazing documentary on the little known Joe Hammond, considered by some to be one of the greatest basketball players to ever live. He annihilated Dr. J and Wilt Chamberlain in pick-up games, but turned down a contract with the Lakers because he could make more money hustling and dealing drugs on the street. He was eventually incarcerated. Towards the end of the movie some guy says he wouldn&#039;t be able to live with himself if he had the type of talent that Joe Hammond had and just wasted it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trent,</p>
<p>I think this is one of your best pieces ever! Very inspiring. I think it would be great to add a lit of people who succeeded against insurmountable odds. Off the top of my head I can think of Oprah and Lance Armstrong. But there are so many lesser know examples. FOr instance, the first man to boat the Grand Canyon only had one arm. </p>
<p>ALso, last night I saw an amazing documentary on the little known Joe Hammond, considered by some to be one of the greatest basketball players to ever live. He annihilated Dr. J and Wilt Chamberlain in pick-up games, but turned down a contract with the Lakers because he could make more money hustling and dealing drugs on the street. He was eventually incarcerated. Towards the end of the movie some guy says he wouldn&#8217;t be able to live with himself if he had the type of talent that Joe Hammond had and just wasted it.</p>
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		<title>By: partgypsy</title>
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		<dc:creator>partgypsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 17:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with comment #56, &quot;success&quot; is an outcome, not a choice.  Overall I agree with Trent&#039;s point.  In general, I find these &quot;success&quot; posts annoying for the following reasons.  

1) They remind me of all those motivational books that are full of rah rah but little substance.  

2) Second, there is this thing called &quot;learned helplessness&quot;.  If you put a rat in a situation where it gets shocked uncontrollably and cannot escape, after awhile it will learn that it&#039;s behavior has no control over outcomes.  What happens if that rat is placed in a situation where it can escape the shock (such as removing a barrier to a safe location)?  The rat will continue to get shocked because it has learned it cannot do anything to escape.  Now if we see people in a similar situation, we would think they are crazy, why aren&#039;t they escaping the shocks?  But to those people, who have had negative experiences and learned that they do not have control over their destinies, those mental barriers are just as real as any physical barrier.  Trent, if you directing this blog to them, words are not going to do any good (Retraining CAN help where they relearn that their actions have consequences does help, but that requires behavior modification, not words).   

3) Maybe I&#039;ve read too many books on Taoism or something, but what is all this deal about being a success? I know, success can mean many things to different people, but I guess I don&#039;t define my life in terms of success.  Don&#039;t get me wrong, I have many things that could be considered &quot;successful&quot;, a PhD, first authored papers, a good job, positive net worth, loving and healthy family. To me, my concern is that my life be full of meaning.  I don&#039;t give a damn whether other people consider me a success or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with comment #56, &#8220;success&#8221; is an outcome, not a choice.  Overall I agree with Trent&#8217;s point.  In general, I find these &#8220;success&#8221; posts annoying for the following reasons.  </p>
<p>1) They remind me of all those motivational books that are full of rah rah but little substance.  </p>
<p>2) Second, there is this thing called &#8220;learned helplessness&#8221;.  If you put a rat in a situation where it gets shocked uncontrollably and cannot escape, after awhile it will learn that it&#8217;s behavior has no control over outcomes.  What happens if that rat is placed in a situation where it can escape the shock (such as removing a barrier to a safe location)?  The rat will continue to get shocked because it has learned it cannot do anything to escape.  Now if we see people in a similar situation, we would think they are crazy, why aren&#8217;t they escaping the shocks?  But to those people, who have had negative experiences and learned that they do not have control over their destinies, those mental barriers are just as real as any physical barrier.  Trent, if you directing this blog to them, words are not going to do any good (Retraining CAN help where they relearn that their actions have consequences does help, but that requires behavior modification, not words).   </p>
<p>3) Maybe I&#8217;ve read too many books on Taoism or something, but what is all this deal about being a success? I know, success can mean many things to different people, but I guess I don&#8217;t define my life in terms of success.  Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I have many things that could be considered &#8220;successful&#8221;, a PhD, first authored papers, a good job, positive net worth, loving and healthy family. To me, my concern is that my life be full of meaning.  I don&#8217;t give a damn whether other people consider me a success or not.</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 16:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I absolutely agree with you, Trent: success IS a choice. Anyone with enough drive and ambition and dedication to making a better life for themselves can succeed, especially in America.

Success is what you make it. It&#039;s not necessarily having the newest car or the biggest house. It&#039;s liking what you do and who you are, and having the confidence and spirits to continue on, even when you fail.

I came from a horrendous family situation (poverty, drunkenness, shiftlessness) and am now working as a consultant and obtaining my degree at an Ivy League university. It&#039;s possible to do what I did (crawling out of the ghetto by my fingernails) if you really want to.

You just have to really want to, and make absolutely no excuses why you can&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I absolutely agree with you, Trent: success IS a choice. Anyone with enough drive and ambition and dedication to making a better life for themselves can succeed, especially in America.</p>
<p>Success is what you make it. It&#8217;s not necessarily having the newest car or the biggest house. It&#8217;s liking what you do and who you are, and having the confidence and spirits to continue on, even when you fail.</p>
<p>I came from a horrendous family situation (poverty, drunkenness, shiftlessness) and am now working as a consultant and obtaining my degree at an Ivy League university. It&#8217;s possible to do what I did (crawling out of the ghetto by my fingernails) if you really want to.</p>
<p>You just have to really want to, and make absolutely no excuses why you can&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Vanessa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vanessa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 16:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really like this post... everyone though may have a different definition of success... I feel I have been very fortunate and successful in that when my daughter was born I decided that I would find a way to make a living working from home.. and I did!  I was very lucky though that I had a degree in a field that allowed me to create my own business to achieve this. It wasn&#039;t the norm in my field but I made it work... It all seemed to fall together.. However, that doesn&#039;t take away the challenges that came from starting the venture and then succeeding in spite of making only 10k the first year out.  I do not make over 100k per year but I have succeeded in this business for 9 years and have been able to be home for my daughter as well.  Not missing out on her childhood while bringing in a steady paycheck has been priceless... Oh and being able to have a flexible work schedule has been amazing as well!
  
All that and no credit card debt at all :) maybe it is a simplistic notion but I think its true that our choices largely determine our outcome :) that and positive outlook go a long way... many days in the beginning I thought I would have to pack it in but I kept going and worked hard and it all worked out :)  
Good luck to everyone and I wish you all much success!    
ps. Trent, I read your blog everyday!  Love it :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really like this post&#8230; everyone though may have a different definition of success&#8230; I feel I have been very fortunate and successful in that when my daughter was born I decided that I would find a way to make a living working from home.. and I did!  I was very lucky though that I had a degree in a field that allowed me to create my own business to achieve this. It wasn&#8217;t the norm in my field but I made it work&#8230; It all seemed to fall together.. However, that doesn&#8217;t take away the challenges that came from starting the venture and then succeeding in spite of making only 10k the first year out.  I do not make over 100k per year but I have succeeded in this business for 9 years and have been able to be home for my daughter as well.  Not missing out on her childhood while bringing in a steady paycheck has been priceless&#8230; Oh and being able to have a flexible work schedule has been amazing as well!</p>
<p>All that and no credit card debt at all :) maybe it is a simplistic notion but I think its true that our choices largely determine our outcome :) that and positive outlook go a long way&#8230; many days in the beginning I thought I would have to pack it in but I kept going and worked hard and it all worked out :)<br />
Good luck to everyone and I wish you all much success!<br />
ps. Trent, I read your blog everyday!  Love it :)</p>
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		<title>By: Lenore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lenore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 16:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If all people were truly equal, success would indeed be a choice.  That&#039;s not the way it works in this world, though, at least not yet.  U.S. women have struggled to attain the greatest career options of any women in the world, yet they still earn 25 percent less than men for doing the same work.  Culturally biased IQ tests determine educational and employment opportunities and routinely screen out non-whites.  Some companies use psychological tests to weed out &quot;undesirables&quot; too, and salary statistics repeatedly affirm that taller, younger and more attractive people have advantages in the workplace.  While I don&#039;t think these sad facts are an excuse for anyone to quit trying, some factors affecting earning potential are beyond individual control.  It&#039;s admirable to spur oneself to succeed, but not to judge those who cannot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If all people were truly equal, success would indeed be a choice.  That&#8217;s not the way it works in this world, though, at least not yet.  U.S. women have struggled to attain the greatest career options of any women in the world, yet they still earn 25 percent less than men for doing the same work.  Culturally biased IQ tests determine educational and employment opportunities and routinely screen out non-whites.  Some companies use psychological tests to weed out &#8220;undesirables&#8221; too, and salary statistics repeatedly affirm that taller, younger and more attractive people have advantages in the workplace.  While I don&#8217;t think these sad facts are an excuse for anyone to quit trying, some factors affecting earning potential are beyond individual control.  It&#8217;s admirable to spur oneself to succeed, but not to judge those who cannot.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 16:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is some great discussion going! Fascinating post. 

While I do agree that your own success falls on you for the most part, (though luck does have something to do with it) the very process of our economy (and any economy for that matter) may deter *financial success.* Firstly, personal success and financial stability can be mutually exclusive. For example, some of the most notorious artists in the world can die penniless. 

In capitalism, everyone has a role. SOMEONE has to be poor in order for capitalism to even really exist. Capitalism is a class-based economy and while we&#039;re all free to work hard to move up, there still has to be a consumer and a producer. One feeds off the other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is some great discussion going! Fascinating post. </p>
<p>While I do agree that your own success falls on you for the most part, (though luck does have something to do with it) the very process of our economy (and any economy for that matter) may deter *financial success.* Firstly, personal success and financial stability can be mutually exclusive. For example, some of the most notorious artists in the world can die penniless. </p>
<p>In capitalism, everyone has a role. SOMEONE has to be poor in order for capitalism to even really exist. Capitalism is a class-based economy and while we&#8217;re all free to work hard to move up, there still has to be a consumer and a producer. One feeds off the other.</p>
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		<title>By: sylrayj</title>
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		<dc:creator>sylrayj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 16:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have not chosen success, and I know it.

I have chosen mediocrity.  I&#039;m disabled, with fibromyalgia and social anxiety and so forth, and if I pushed harder to find more therapy, and to push it, I would have more success.  Right now, I&#039;m hanging onto my husband and my kids, knowing that I&#039;m in a tenuous situation because I depend upon them so much.

Instead of a job and knowing that everything will be okay if I were alone, I fight exhaustion and do my best to learn how to help my kids, who both have their own disabilities.  In some ways, I am a success, because I am striving for a better future for all of us and because I make it more possible for my husband&#039;s success, but I know that right now I&#039;m not ready to be employable.

There *is* a trade-off, between personal success and success for a family; some can manage both, while I have to choose.  Slowly, I improve myself, and perhaps when my family doesn&#039;t need me as much I&#039;ll be ready and willing and able to grasp success for myself. :)  I think about it, often, to prepare for that day - and it just might happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have not chosen success, and I know it.</p>
<p>I have chosen mediocrity.  I&#8217;m disabled, with fibromyalgia and social anxiety and so forth, and if I pushed harder to find more therapy, and to push it, I would have more success.  Right now, I&#8217;m hanging onto my husband and my kids, knowing that I&#8217;m in a tenuous situation because I depend upon them so much.</p>
<p>Instead of a job and knowing that everything will be okay if I were alone, I fight exhaustion and do my best to learn how to help my kids, who both have their own disabilities.  In some ways, I am a success, because I am striving for a better future for all of us and because I make it more possible for my husband&#8217;s success, but I know that right now I&#8217;m not ready to be employable.</p>
<p>There *is* a trade-off, between personal success and success for a family; some can manage both, while I have to choose.  Slowly, I improve myself, and perhaps when my family doesn&#8217;t need me as much I&#8217;ll be ready and willing and able to grasp success for myself. :)  I think about it, often, to prepare for that day &#8211; and it just might happen.</p>
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