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	<title>Comments on: Retirement Savings: How I&#8217;m Doing It</title>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2008/04/26/retirement-savings-how-im-doing-it/comment-page-1/#comment-321194</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 17:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a 401k/roth ira question: Being in banking, recently the 401k I had with a previous employer has taken a significant hit. It is down approximately 60-70% to around $15k. I am not overly famaliar with 401k tax stuff, but can I cash out and declare a loss on these funds to move them into a roth ira? My wife also has a traditional ira that I would like to move into a roth ira. I am hoping that if I can take the tax break for the loss on the cash basis, I can move them to the same investments in the roth ira at wait for them to come back up. Any suggestions?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a 401k/roth ira question: Being in banking, recently the 401k I had with a previous employer has taken a significant hit. It is down approximately 60-70% to around $15k. I am not overly famaliar with 401k tax stuff, but can I cash out and declare a loss on these funds to move them into a roth ira? My wife also has a traditional ira that I would like to move into a roth ira. I am hoping that if I can take the tax break for the loss on the cash basis, I can move them to the same investments in the roth ira at wait for them to come back up. Any suggestions?</p>
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		<title>By: Amy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 21:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Nathan:  I work for an investment company so I just wanted to share some insight about diversifying.  Index funds aren&#039;t always the way to go.  An index fund that mirrors the S&amp;P 500 is not really diversified because it only invests in large companies.  There are some indices that are more encompassing of the market though.  To really diversify, you want to invest in small, mid, and large sized companies, both in the US and abroad.  You may also need to throw in some bonds and money markets.  (I only deal with mutual funds, but if you have the resources and knowledge, you can go with individual stocks and such, but mutual funds aren&#039;t as risky as indivudual stocks.)  It really depends on your specific goals and your age, but the younger you are, (or the farther away your goal is) the more stock exposure you should have and vice versa.  Most mutual funds by themselves are not really that diversified, because they only invest in one kind of stock. (ie, small companies or large companies)  There is a thing as too much diversification, sometimes I see people with 4 or 5 different large company funds in their portfolio, which is not neccesary, as one good large company fund will provide what you need.  The easiest thing to do is go with the target date funds.  I&#039;m sorry this is so long but I hope it helps!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Nathan:  I work for an investment company so I just wanted to share some insight about diversifying.  Index funds aren&#8217;t always the way to go.  An index fund that mirrors the S&amp;P 500 is not really diversified because it only invests in large companies.  There are some indices that are more encompassing of the market though.  To really diversify, you want to invest in small, mid, and large sized companies, both in the US and abroad.  You may also need to throw in some bonds and money markets.  (I only deal with mutual funds, but if you have the resources and knowledge, you can go with individual stocks and such, but mutual funds aren&#8217;t as risky as indivudual stocks.)  It really depends on your specific goals and your age, but the younger you are, (or the farther away your goal is) the more stock exposure you should have and vice versa.  Most mutual funds by themselves are not really that diversified, because they only invest in one kind of stock. (ie, small companies or large companies)  There is a thing as too much diversification, sometimes I see people with 4 or 5 different large company funds in their portfolio, which is not neccesary, as one good large company fund will provide what you need.  The easiest thing to do is go with the target date funds.  I&#8217;m sorry this is so long but I hope it helps!</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 16:32:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Follow-up to my previous comment: I don&#039;t think the &quot;Self-Employed 401(k)&quot; existed a few years ago when I was self-employed. Today, this would probably be better than a SIMPLE-IRA for a self-employed indivual who works alone or with just their spouse. It has a higher contribution cap but still allows you to put 100% of your salary into the plan, which is key to avoiding all the taxes that are based on earned income.

Which raises another point... with a corporation you can hire your spouse to run some small aspect of your business and use the strategy mentioned previously to double your retirement savings with all the same tax advantages. This is a no-brainer if your spouse has no other employer or has an employer with no retirement plan. If they do have another retirement plan you&#039;d need to look into whether it&#039;s permissible to contribute to both.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Follow-up to my previous comment: I don&#8217;t think the &#8220;Self-Employed 401(k)&#8221; existed a few years ago when I was self-employed. Today, this would probably be better than a SIMPLE-IRA for a self-employed indivual who works alone or with just their spouse. It has a higher contribution cap but still allows you to put 100% of your salary into the plan, which is key to avoiding all the taxes that are based on earned income.</p>
<p>Which raises another point&#8230; with a corporation you can hire your spouse to run some small aspect of your business and use the strategy mentioned previously to double your retirement savings with all the same tax advantages. This is a no-brainer if your spouse has no other employer or has an employer with no retirement plan. If they do have another retirement plan you&#8217;d need to look into whether it&#8217;s permissible to contribute to both.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 14:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No one&#039;s mentioned the SIMPLE IRA... I wonder why. Here&#039;s what my accountant advised me when I was self-employed a few years ago: 

First set up a corporation. An S Corp or LLC most likely, but it depends on your situation. Have a lawyer do it, it cost me $800 but was well worth it. 

Make yourself an employee of your own corporation and pay yourself a modest salary, something the IRS would consider reasonable. For a part-time job, $1000 a month might be reasonable.

Then set up a SIMPLE IRA which allows you to contribute up to 100% of your salary, up to a limit of something like $12K. 

With a $12K salary and a SIMPLE-IRA, you can put your entire year&#039;s salary into your retirement plan, easily maxing out the contribution limit. To do that with a SEP-IRA you&#039;d have to pay yourself a huge salary. A huge salary is bad because you&#039;ll pay an extra 15% in Social Security taxes on it. 

The corporation&#039;s profits over and above your salary would come to you in the form of dividend distributions. You do not pay Social Security taxes on this and it&#039;s taxed as dividends rather than earned income (i.e. at a lower tax rate, and exempt from things like local taxes which are based on earned imcome). 

Oh, and even for the $12K salary you do earn, you pay no federal tax on that because you&#039;re putting it all into your retirement plan on a pre-tax basis. Not only that, but the corporation can match your SIMPLE IRA contributions up to 100% on a pre-tax basis as well, because the match is an expense to the corporation, and all of the corporation&#039;s expenses are tax deductible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one&#8217;s mentioned the SIMPLE IRA&#8230; I wonder why. Here&#8217;s what my accountant advised me when I was self-employed a few years ago: </p>
<p>First set up a corporation. An S Corp or LLC most likely, but it depends on your situation. Have a lawyer do it, it cost me $800 but was well worth it. </p>
<p>Make yourself an employee of your own corporation and pay yourself a modest salary, something the IRS would consider reasonable. For a part-time job, $1000 a month might be reasonable.</p>
<p>Then set up a SIMPLE IRA which allows you to contribute up to 100% of your salary, up to a limit of something like $12K. </p>
<p>With a $12K salary and a SIMPLE-IRA, you can put your entire year&#8217;s salary into your retirement plan, easily maxing out the contribution limit. To do that with a SEP-IRA you&#8217;d have to pay yourself a huge salary. A huge salary is bad because you&#8217;ll pay an extra 15% in Social Security taxes on it. </p>
<p>The corporation&#8217;s profits over and above your salary would come to you in the form of dividend distributions. You do not pay Social Security taxes on this and it&#8217;s taxed as dividends rather than earned income (i.e. at a lower tax rate, and exempt from things like local taxes which are based on earned imcome). </p>
<p>Oh, and even for the $12K salary you do earn, you pay no federal tax on that because you&#8217;re putting it all into your retirement plan on a pre-tax basis. Not only that, but the corporation can match your SIMPLE IRA contributions up to 100% on a pre-tax basis as well, because the match is an expense to the corporation, and all of the corporation&#8217;s expenses are tax deductible.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 20:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;How did I invest? In both cases, I set up a regular investing schedule and bought into the Vanguard STAR fund because I didn’t want to put in the $3,000 minimum for other funds. I’ll sell the STAR shares when it reaches $3,000 and move it to another fund. Eventually, I plan on having all of it split among a few funds just to ensure diversity - I want some international stocks, some domestic stocks, etc.&quot;

Aren&#039;t mutual funds already diversified? And don&#039;t you preach index funds? How much more diversity can you get? Isn&#039;t there such a thing as TOO much diversity?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;How did I invest? In both cases, I set up a regular investing schedule and bought into the Vanguard STAR fund because I didn’t want to put in the $3,000 minimum for other funds. I’ll sell the STAR shares when it reaches $3,000 and move it to another fund. Eventually, I plan on having all of it split among a few funds just to ensure diversity &#8211; I want some international stocks, some domestic stocks, etc.&#8221;</p>
<p>Aren&#8217;t mutual funds already diversified? And don&#8217;t you preach index funds? How much more diversity can you get? Isn&#8217;t there such a thing as TOO much diversity?</p>
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		<title>By: Becky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Becky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*open more than 5 years AND...*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*open more than 5 years AND&#8230;*</p>
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		<title>By: Becky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Becky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;(basically, no withdrawing until the account is more than 5 years old OR you’re over 59 1/2 years of age)&quot;
--Just to clarify, don&#039;t you mean the account has been open AND you are over 59 1/2 years of age?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;(basically, no withdrawing until the account is more than 5 years old OR you’re over 59 1/2 years of age)&#8221;<br />
&#8211;Just to clarify, don&#8217;t you mean the account has been open AND you are over 59 1/2 years of age?</p>
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		<title>By: !wanda</title>
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		<dc:creator>!wanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 17:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@gr8whyte: Yes, there are retirement plans, for staff.  I&#039;m just a lowly grad student :P .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@gr8whyte: Yes, there are retirement plans, for staff.  I&#8217;m just a lowly grad student :P .</p>
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		<title>By: Saving Freak</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2008/04/26/retirement-savings-how-im-doing-it/comment-page-1/#comment-255000</link>
		<dc:creator>Saving Freak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 12:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The great thing about being self employed is that you can set your kids up for life.  If you give them jobs to do for your business you can pay them money that qualifies as earned income.  At that point you can put a portion of that money int a ROTH IRA.  Since they won&#039;t make enough to be taxed it is tax free money that never gets taxed and they can start saving for retirement as early as you want to set it up.  

A friend of mine has a seven year old with $200 in a ROTH.  He helps her put in about $20 a month now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The great thing about being self employed is that you can set your kids up for life.  If you give them jobs to do for your business you can pay them money that qualifies as earned income.  At that point you can put a portion of that money int a ROTH IRA.  Since they won&#8217;t make enough to be taxed it is tax free money that never gets taxed and they can start saving for retirement as early as you want to set it up.  </p>
<p>A friend of mine has a seven year old with $200 in a ROTH.  He helps her put in about $20 a month now.</p>
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		<title>By: gr8whyte</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2008/04/26/retirement-savings-how-im-doing-it/comment-page-1/#comment-254819</link>
		<dc:creator>gr8whyte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 05:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ !Wanda : I&#039;m amazed your school doesn&#039;t offer a 403(b); does it offer a 457?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ !Wanda : I&#8217;m amazed your school doesn&#8217;t offer a 403(b); does it offer a 457?</p>
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		<title>By: Esme</title>
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		<dc:creator>Esme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 03:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about a SEP 401(k)?  My understanding is then you can contribute up to $15,500 (like a regular 401(K)) as an &quot;employee&quot; contribution and then up to a certain percentage of earnings as the &quot;employer&quot; contribution?  I think it allows more tax deferred contribution than the SEP IRA but I could be wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about a SEP 401(k)?  My understanding is then you can contribute up to $15,500 (like a regular 401(K)) as an &#8220;employee&#8221; contribution and then up to a certain percentage of earnings as the &#8220;employer&#8221; contribution?  I think it allows more tax deferred contribution than the SEP IRA but I could be wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Credit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Credit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 02:58:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the problems with the rule on fellowship money is the metric of performing a service for the money. Clearly TA and RA positions would be included. Most fellowships have some performance clause, but if yours does not, it may never be considered earned income. I would trust a CPA over TurboTax. Many students on fellowship in sciences and engineering do consulting work on the side. This has been profitable for us and it only takes a few hours a week to make enough to offset a maxed out Roth IRA. I&#039;m not sure what field you are in, but this is an option for most students. You have to check into the conflict of interest and employment rules at your university.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the problems with the rule on fellowship money is the metric of performing a service for the money. Clearly TA and RA positions would be included. Most fellowships have some performance clause, but if yours does not, it may never be considered earned income. I would trust a CPA over TurboTax. Many students on fellowship in sciences and engineering do consulting work on the side. This has been profitable for us and it only takes a few hours a week to make enough to offset a maxed out Roth IRA. I&#8217;m not sure what field you are in, but this is an option for most students. You have to check into the conflict of interest and employment rules at your university.</p>
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		<title>By: Shawn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 02:48:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JReed - The PLAN is for Roth IRAs to be tax-free withdrawls.  Down the road when the budget blows up, do you really think they are going to let someone with $1.5 million in a Roth IRA pull it out without taxes, no matter what WAS promised?  Of course not.  They&#039;ll tax it at the going rate, especially the &quot;rich&quot; people with over a certain amount.  Just like this mortgage mess, the people that save and invest are going to be forced to cover for the irresponsible.

Contributing to an IRA or Roth IRA before the SEP is an interesting approach since you avoid the self employment tax on that amount of money also.  I fill my IRA each year, and plan to open my SEP-IRA soon.

Trent - For your young age, you should be in higher risk investments.  Small Cap growth (No. American, and Intl.).  Adjusted for inflation, your Vanguard fund is only going to return 3-4% per year in real terms.  Success to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JReed &#8211; The PLAN is for Roth IRAs to be tax-free withdrawls.  Down the road when the budget blows up, do you really think they are going to let someone with $1.5 million in a Roth IRA pull it out without taxes, no matter what WAS promised?  Of course not.  They&#8217;ll tax it at the going rate, especially the &#8220;rich&#8221; people with over a certain amount.  Just like this mortgage mess, the people that save and invest are going to be forced to cover for the irresponsible.</p>
<p>Contributing to an IRA or Roth IRA before the SEP is an interesting approach since you avoid the self employment tax on that amount of money also.  I fill my IRA each year, and plan to open my SEP-IRA soon.</p>
<p>Trent &#8211; For your young age, you should be in higher risk investments.  Small Cap growth (No. American, and Intl.).  Adjusted for inflation, your Vanguard fund is only going to return 3-4% per year in real terms.  Success to you.</p>
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		<title>By: !wanda</title>
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		<dc:creator>!wanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 02:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Susan and Credit: My mom is an accountant, and she read over everything very carefully.  Because I do not get a W-2 (or possibly a similar, obscure document) and am not a farmer or fisherman, I do not have &quot;earned income.&quot;  As for not paying taxes, the penalties for crossing the IRS are high, and I prefer to stay on the correct side of the law.  So I send in my estimated taxes 4 times a year.  My program made it pretty clear to us that we were expected to pay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Susan and Credit: My mom is an accountant, and she read over everything very carefully.  Because I do not get a W-2 (or possibly a similar, obscure document) and am not a farmer or fisherman, I do not have &#8220;earned income.&#8221;  As for not paying taxes, the penalties for crossing the IRS are high, and I prefer to stay on the correct side of the law.  So I send in my estimated taxes 4 times a year.  My program made it pretty clear to us that we were expected to pay.</p>
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		<title>By: AndyS</title>
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		<dc:creator>AndyS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 02:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the information, I was thinking of starting my own business and was meaning to look into self funded retirement plans. Found it here!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the information, I was thinking of starting my own business and was meaning to look into self funded retirement plans. Found it here!</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 01:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe that as long as Trent&#039;s wife is working, Trent can contribute to a Roth IRA.  As long as she makes $10k, they can both put in their $5k.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe that as long as Trent&#8217;s wife is working, Trent can contribute to a Roth IRA.  As long as she makes $10k, they can both put in their $5k.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan McLean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan McLean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 00:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am very keen to work towards may retirement. I am 20 now and I want to be able to retire (if I want to) before I am 30
So thanks for the advice</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am very keen to work towards may retirement. I am 20 now and I want to be able to retire (if I want to) before I am 30<br />
So thanks for the advice</p>
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		<title>By: clint</title>
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		<dc:creator>clint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 23:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I need to get started sooner rather than later. I have spent so much time getting out of debt that I have put off starting to pay into retirement.

Thanks for the bump in the right direction.

Clint Lawton

www.a-debt-free-life.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I need to get started sooner rather than later. I have spent so much time getting out of debt that I have put off starting to pay into retirement.</p>
<p>Thanks for the bump in the right direction.</p>
<p>Clint Lawton</p>
<p><a href="http://www.a-debt-free-life.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.a-debt-free-life.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 23:19:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>!wanda &amp; credit:

I think !wanda is right, if it is not earned income (i.e. you do not get a w-2 for the stipend/fellowship), you cannot invest in a Roth IRA. Like Credit, I thought since I self-reported and paid taxes on the stipend, I could contribute to a Roth IRA. I found out (using TurboTax this year) this is not the case.

I am also surprised Trent can contribute to a Roth IRA while he is self-employed. Trent - you may be OK because you are married, but if you don&#039;t get a w-2 for your self-employment, can you really contribute to a Roth IRA? (Or do you get a w-2 for some of your income?)

Just curious, I am still trying to understand the system. Since I thought I could no longer contribute to a Roth IRA, I decided to invest in mutual funds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>!wanda &amp; credit:</p>
<p>I think !wanda is right, if it is not earned income (i.e. you do not get a w-2 for the stipend/fellowship), you cannot invest in a Roth IRA. Like Credit, I thought since I self-reported and paid taxes on the stipend, I could contribute to a Roth IRA. I found out (using TurboTax this year) this is not the case.</p>
<p>I am also surprised Trent can contribute to a Roth IRA while he is self-employed. Trent &#8211; you may be OK because you are married, but if you don&#8217;t get a w-2 for your self-employment, can you really contribute to a Roth IRA? (Or do you get a w-2 for some of your income?)</p>
<p>Just curious, I am still trying to understand the system. Since I thought I could no longer contribute to a Roth IRA, I decided to invest in mutual funds.</p>
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		<title>By: Credit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Credit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 23:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>!wanda:

According to the accountant I use, the portion of the fellowship used for tuition, fees and required books, supplies and equipment is not taxable. However, the amount used for other expenses such as room, board and travel is taxable and this portion is considered earned income. Most of those on fellowships ignore this rule and just don&#039;t pay the taxes. So if you want to follow the rules and pay the taxes, then you can contribute to a Roth IRA. However, please don&#039;t make Trent&#039;s mistake of putting your money into an S&amp;P 500 index fund unless you like losing money and paying the opportunity cost to not have to think about your investments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>!wanda:</p>
<p>According to the accountant I use, the portion of the fellowship used for tuition, fees and required books, supplies and equipment is not taxable. However, the amount used for other expenses such as room, board and travel is taxable and this portion is considered earned income. Most of those on fellowships ignore this rule and just don&#8217;t pay the taxes. So if you want to follow the rules and pay the taxes, then you can contribute to a Roth IRA. However, please don&#8217;t make Trent&#8217;s mistake of putting your money into an S&amp;P 500 index fund unless you like losing money and paying the opportunity cost to not have to think about your investments.</p>
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