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	<title>Comments on: Frugality and the Impression of Poverty</title>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2008/05/17/frugality-and-the-impression-of-poverty/comment-page-9/#comment-774072</link>
		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 19:10:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A car  up on blocks does not leak fluids unless it leaks fluids.  The blocks have nothing to do with it.

Putting a car on blocks prevents the tires from flat spotting and the suspension from getting stuck in one position. That&#039;s why it&#039;s done. But it&#039;s only done by those who work with their hands.  And in some neighborhoods, that&#039;s a &quot;no no&quot;.

I definitely understand the &quot;poverty&quot; implication of clotheslines.  In my family it was clear to me it seemed that anything that could be paid for (drying with a gas dryier) was not going to be done the less-expensive, old way (using a clothesline). It was kind of a mantra for much of the adult generation that came of age in the 50s and 60s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A car  up on blocks does not leak fluids unless it leaks fluids.  The blocks have nothing to do with it.</p>
<p>Putting a car on blocks prevents the tires from flat spotting and the suspension from getting stuck in one position. That&#8217;s why it&#8217;s done. But it&#8217;s only done by those who work with their hands.  And in some neighborhoods, that&#8217;s a &#8220;no no&#8221;.</p>
<p>I definitely understand the &#8220;poverty&#8221; implication of clotheslines.  In my family it was clear to me it seemed that anything that could be paid for (drying with a gas dryier) was not going to be done the less-expensive, old way (using a clothesline). It was kind of a mantra for much of the adult generation that came of age in the 50s and 60s.</p>
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		<title>By: Rosa Rugosa</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2008/05/17/frugality-and-the-impression-of-poverty/comment-page-9/#comment-771156</link>
		<dc:creator>Rosa Rugosa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 23:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually never would have thought of the clothesline=poverty equation.  When I see clothes hanging out to dry, I just think that someone is more energetic, passionate about that fresh-air smell, or whatever, than I am.  
I enjoy the ease and convenience of the dryer, but dry many items on a line or rack in the basement because the dryer is harsh on some things, and clothes are expensive.  Probably the main reason I don&#039;t have a clothesline is that I&#039;m a passionate gardener, and a clothesline just doesn&#039;t fit nicely into the landscape design on our small suburban lot.  It would clash with the gazebo:)  Hey, it&#039;s our only little piece of paradise, and we have to use it as we best see fit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually never would have thought of the clothesline=poverty equation.  When I see clothes hanging out to dry, I just think that someone is more energetic, passionate about that fresh-air smell, or whatever, than I am.<br />
I enjoy the ease and convenience of the dryer, but dry many items on a line or rack in the basement because the dryer is harsh on some things, and clothes are expensive.  Probably the main reason I don&#8217;t have a clothesline is that I&#8217;m a passionate gardener, and a clothesline just doesn&#8217;t fit nicely into the landscape design on our small suburban lot.  It would clash with the gazebo:)  Hey, it&#8217;s our only little piece of paradise, and we have to use it as we best see fit.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexander</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2008/05/17/frugality-and-the-impression-of-poverty/comment-page-9/#comment-757767</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 20:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I was the richest person in the world I would have a clothesline, as it is the best way of drying clothes.  Grow up - get a clothesline.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I was the richest person in the world I would have a clothesline, as it is the best way of drying clothes.  Grow up &#8211; get a clothesline.</p>
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		<title>By: karen</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2008/05/17/frugality-and-the-impression-of-poverty/comment-page-9/#comment-753956</link>
		<dc:creator>karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 21:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I happen to live in Alaska where nine months of the year your clothes would just freeze on the line. Yes, I do hang my clothes outside in the summer but it really is harder on your clothes to freeze them dry then to use the dryer. I&#039;m pretty amazed at the snootiness of the &quot;green&quot; posters though. Not everyone has the time,room (for inside drying)or climate and if that&#039;s what you want to spend your money on that&#039;s fine!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I happen to live in Alaska where nine months of the year your clothes would just freeze on the line. Yes, I do hang my clothes outside in the summer but it really is harder on your clothes to freeze them dry then to use the dryer. I&#8217;m pretty amazed at the snootiness of the &#8220;green&#8221; posters though. Not everyone has the time,room (for inside drying)or climate and if that&#8217;s what you want to spend your money on that&#8217;s fine!</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2008/05/17/frugality-and-the-impression-of-poverty/comment-page-9/#comment-726654</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 15:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trent, obviously, 400+ comments.. this is a good conversation piece.

Regardless of which side you take, I think it&#039;s cool that you analyzed from both sides, recognized the pros and the cons, and MADE A DECISION with the thought of others(your neighbors)involved. Right or wrong, your an unselfish, rational thinking kind of guy.

Unselfishness, and thinking of others are very noble qualities, any way you slice it

T.A Smith, Creator, Smile-Therapy.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trent, obviously, 400+ comments.. this is a good conversation piece.</p>
<p>Regardless of which side you take, I think it&#8217;s cool that you analyzed from both sides, recognized the pros and the cons, and MADE A DECISION with the thought of others(your neighbors)involved. Right or wrong, your an unselfish, rational thinking kind of guy.</p>
<p>Unselfishness, and thinking of others are very noble qualities, any way you slice it</p>
<p>T.A Smith, Creator, Smile-Therapy.com</p>
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		<title>By: Mel</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2008/05/17/frugality-and-the-impression-of-poverty/comment-page-9/#comment-702346</link>
		<dc:creator>Mel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 12:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Australia it&#039;s very odd not to have a clothesline. I&#039;m a student and live without a dryer, it&#039;s even easy enough to have an indoors clothesline/clothes hanger and everything dries overnight. Maybe it&#039;s because we&#039;re blessed with the sun!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Australia it&#8217;s very odd not to have a clothesline. I&#8217;m a student and live without a dryer, it&#8217;s even easy enough to have an indoors clothesline/clothes hanger and everything dries overnight. Maybe it&#8217;s because we&#8217;re blessed with the sun!</p>
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		<title>By: Kitty</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2008/05/17/frugality-and-the-impression-of-poverty/comment-page-9/#comment-690248</link>
		<dc:creator>Kitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 17:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think anyone reading this blog would consider a clothesline a sign of poverty. However, to some, it is. When I moved into my small town (into quite an aged property) 30 years ago. This small town has been surrounded by a major city over the years. A wonderful clothesline array was in place (and still is). However, new people moved in and the current city council passed an ordinance of no clotheslines. The new folks want to seem urbane and sophisticated and, obviously, clothes flapping in the breeze is neither urbane or sophisticated. To circumvent, I placed an array of clotheslines in my basement and it works just fine.

They will NOT win!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think anyone reading this blog would consider a clothesline a sign of poverty. However, to some, it is. When I moved into my small town (into quite an aged property) 30 years ago. This small town has been surrounded by a major city over the years. A wonderful clothesline array was in place (and still is). However, new people moved in and the current city council passed an ordinance of no clotheslines. The new folks want to seem urbane and sophisticated and, obviously, clothes flapping in the breeze is neither urbane or sophisticated. To circumvent, I placed an array of clotheslines in my basement and it works just fine.</p>
<p>They will NOT win!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Nayya</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2008/05/17/frugality-and-the-impression-of-poverty/comment-page-9/#comment-689092</link>
		<dc:creator>Nayya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 17:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Starting June 6th is the International Clothesline Week! gogo!
http://www.wellness-mania.com/international-clothesline-week.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Starting June 6th is the International Clothesline Week! gogo!<br />
<a href="http://www.wellness-mania.com/international-clothesline-week.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.wellness-mania.com/international-clothesline-week.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: kaywosz</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2008/05/17/frugality-and-the-impression-of-poverty/comment-page-9/#comment-674838</link>
		<dc:creator>kaywosz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 16:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Might I suggest a drying rack? We have two of them that fold up against the wall when not in use, and we dry laundry for a family of three with them. You can put them outside, of course, but you can even use them inside in the winter!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Might I suggest a drying rack? We have two of them that fold up against the wall when not in use, and we dry laundry for a family of three with them. You can put them outside, of course, but you can even use them inside in the winter!</p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2008/05/17/frugality-and-the-impression-of-poverty/comment-page-9/#comment-674282</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 23:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I see clothes on the line in my town I figure they were put there by an immigrant mom (sorry for the stereotype) who knows how to do laundry the right way! I always admire them and wish that I had a line. I say, the heck with the neighbors, go for it! Also, have you talked to your neighbors about the line? They may not care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I see clothes on the line in my town I figure they were put there by an immigrant mom (sorry for the stereotype) who knows how to do laundry the right way! I always admire them and wish that I had a line. I say, the heck with the neighbors, go for it! Also, have you talked to your neighbors about the line? They may not care.</p>
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		<title>By: Maria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 10:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi from Ireland! I&#039;m absolutely stunned that a clothesline could be seen as a sign of poverty.  It&#039;s daft to bow to peer pressure like that... I&#039;m a city-dweller couldn&#039;t LIVE without my clothesline. I also have those drying racks for my undies. I own a dryer too but I only use it in the winter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi from Ireland! I&#8217;m absolutely stunned that a clothesline could be seen as a sign of poverty.  It&#8217;s daft to bow to peer pressure like that&#8230; I&#8217;m a city-dweller couldn&#8217;t LIVE without my clothesline. I also have those drying racks for my undies. I own a dryer too but I only use it in the winter.</p>
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		<title>By: SB</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2008/05/17/frugality-and-the-impression-of-poverty/comment-page-9/#comment-672106</link>
		<dc:creator>SB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 15:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know if this was mentioned in any of the other comments, but I hung my clothes on indoor racks at one point for 2 years, and my clothes basically just didn&#039;t seem to wear out.  Dryers really wreck our clothes.  There would be a dollar cost savings with the power bill and the clothing bill. Not to mention the fact that clothes are kept in excellent condition for resale at a consignment store.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if this was mentioned in any of the other comments, but I hung my clothes on indoor racks at one point for 2 years, and my clothes basically just didn&#8217;t seem to wear out.  Dryers really wreck our clothes.  There would be a dollar cost savings with the power bill and the clothing bill. Not to mention the fact that clothes are kept in excellent condition for resale at a consignment store.</p>
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		<title>By: apples</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2008/05/17/frugality-and-the-impression-of-poverty/comment-page-9/#comment-671870</link>
		<dc:creator>apples</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 08:16:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;m with sylvain, except im australian

no way is a clothesline considered a sign of poverty. 

that really says a lot about your society</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;m with sylvain, except im australian</p>
<p>no way is a clothesline considered a sign of poverty. </p>
<p>that really says a lot about your society</p>
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		<title>By: Tamara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tamara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 16:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t believe that a clothesline would be seen as a sign of poverty.  In my city that is not at all the case.  They are prevalent in the &quot;cool&quot; and artsy neighbourhoods full of young professionals of good means.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t believe that a clothesline would be seen as a sign of poverty.  In my city that is not at all the case.  They are prevalent in the &#8220;cool&#8221; and artsy neighbourhoods full of young professionals of good means.</p>
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		<title>By: MelMel</title>
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		<dc:creator>MelMel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 15:44:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My parents have been married for 51 years.  We moved a lot due to my dad&#039;s corporate job.  He is now 81 years old.  We always lived in a middle to upper class neighborhood, near a bus route, walking distance to schools and the mall.  My mother never worked from the day I was born, taught me to appreciate and enjoy public transport, have always had a compost system (my father has been nominated many times for the Trillium Award for beautiful gardening), and they ALWAYS, ALWAYS installed a clothesline.  HOWEVER, they installed the 4-sided &quot;umbrella&quot; style, to contain the view in a strategic corner of the yard.  Every week, religiously, for over 51 years my mom and dad have hung the laundry out to dry.  The only time they used their electric dryer was to &quot;fluff&quot; certain items like towels for 10 minutes.  They never had debt, they never had a mortgage, and we never wanted for a thing.  My parents are now poster children (!!??) for the new &quot;green&quot; economy!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My parents have been married for 51 years.  We moved a lot due to my dad&#8217;s corporate job.  He is now 81 years old.  We always lived in a middle to upper class neighborhood, near a bus route, walking distance to schools and the mall.  My mother never worked from the day I was born, taught me to appreciate and enjoy public transport, have always had a compost system (my father has been nominated many times for the Trillium Award for beautiful gardening), and they ALWAYS, ALWAYS installed a clothesline.  HOWEVER, they installed the 4-sided &#8220;umbrella&#8221; style, to contain the view in a strategic corner of the yard.  Every week, religiously, for over 51 years my mom and dad have hung the laundry out to dry.  The only time they used their electric dryer was to &#8220;fluff&#8221; certain items like towels for 10 minutes.  They never had debt, they never had a mortgage, and we never wanted for a thing.  My parents are now poster children (!!??) for the new &#8220;green&#8221; economy!!</p>
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		<title>By: ame</title>
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		<dc:creator>ame</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 21:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops forgot about the pc brigade.  English translation (a wooden or metal pole/post you cement into the ground for your clothesline)I would use a capital letter for a country... 

Better add this to the first message - thanks.

It is understandable that when you have bought into a property in a good area that you maintain it to the standard that attracted you to it in the first place.  Perhaps when you and the neighbours have lived there longer there will be the inevitable changes.  You only need to rock the boat if you feel very strongly about something and you are presently quite happy to keep on the way you are and that is your personal choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops forgot about the pc brigade.  English translation (a wooden or metal pole/post you cement into the ground for your clothesline)I would use a capital letter for a country&#8230; </p>
<p>Better add this to the first message &#8211; thanks.</p>
<p>It is understandable that when you have bought into a property in a good area that you maintain it to the standard that attracted you to it in the first place.  Perhaps when you and the neighbours have lived there longer there will be the inevitable changes.  You only need to rock the boat if you feel very strongly about something and you are presently quite happy to keep on the way you are and that is your personal choice.</p>
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		<title>By: ame</title>
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		<dc:creator>ame</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 20:54:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One bit of rope, two poles and clean fresh clothes waving in the breeze in ones back garden - lovely.

Compared to three parked and drivable cars stuck directly under the front windows of each house on narrow plots in the UK.  I know which I prefer. We all have our problems Trent - love your blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One bit of rope, two poles and clean fresh clothes waving in the breeze in ones back garden &#8211; lovely.</p>
<p>Compared to three parked and drivable cars stuck directly under the front windows of each house on narrow plots in the UK.  I know which I prefer. We all have our problems Trent &#8211; love your blog.</p>
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		<title>By: angela</title>
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		<dc:creator>angela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 08:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe everyone should stop &quot;spying&quot; on each other!!! lol!!!! We must spend a lot of time looking over the fence. By reading some of these posts! lol

Why not put up a 6 foot fence that way you won&#039;t have to worry what you do in YOUR back yard!  you could run around naked and not worry! lol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe everyone should stop &#8220;spying&#8221; on each other!!! lol!!!! We must spend a lot of time looking over the fence. By reading some of these posts! lol</p>
<p>Why not put up a 6 foot fence that way you won&#8217;t have to worry what you do in YOUR back yard!  you could run around naked and not worry! lol.</p>
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		<title>By: angela</title>
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		<dc:creator>angela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 06:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m from Australia and I am intrigued by this thinking!  Clotheslines are in all back yards across australia no matter the income!  It has no conuntations attached to it.  Have you considered hanging lines in your garage? What about instead of the traditional lines - here you can get ones which attach to a wall and are able to be folded down when not in use best thing you could actually hide it behind a screen with plants growning around it something in the ediable kind!  Look this is not a question about poverty but rather a stance in being ecologically friendly.  To change the thinking of your community encourage and talk to your neighbours about becoming &quot;greener houses&quot;, make the change by changing others thinking!  

I have to giggle this makes zero sense - it really sounds as if everyone is keeping up appearances and not being real!  You must follow your own path in life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m from Australia and I am intrigued by this thinking!  Clotheslines are in all back yards across australia no matter the income!  It has no conuntations attached to it.  Have you considered hanging lines in your garage? What about instead of the traditional lines &#8211; here you can get ones which attach to a wall and are able to be folded down when not in use best thing you could actually hide it behind a screen with plants growning around it something in the ediable kind!  Look this is not a question about poverty but rather a stance in being ecologically friendly.  To change the thinking of your community encourage and talk to your neighbours about becoming &#8220;greener houses&#8221;, make the change by changing others thinking!  </p>
<p>I have to giggle this makes zero sense &#8211; it really sounds as if everyone is keeping up appearances and not being real!  You must follow your own path in life.</p>
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		<title>By: Jane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 14:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, what a lot of opinions!  I thought I would give you my Englishwoman&#039;s view of how to tackle this problem - I have the advantage of many decades of washing-hanging experience in various different environments.  

First, I think you are wise to consider the effect on your neighbours.  Like it or not, you need to co-exist with them and it always makes sense to think about ways of acheiving your aims without making unecessary enemies.  

I live in a country where dryers are not the norm, even though we get lots of rain. So I can certainly assure you that a dryer is not essential. 

I think the main irritant with outdoor clothes lines is when people do not bother to bring their washing in when it is dry. Most English people do not want to look at their neighbours&#039; weeks-old washing flapping about in the rain, even though they are not in the least bothered by the idea of washing lines. Here is what I recommend:

I would not advise a strung-between-posts type traditional clothes line, for these reasons:
- They are not practical, because you have to cover a lot of ground to create a relatively small amount of drying space. 
- When you need to wipe the line clean(which you will from time to time, even in the country) it takes ages because it is strung all over the place. 
- Pegging out and collecting in the washing takes ages for the same reason, and you keep having to move the laundry basket along with you as you go.
- It gets in the way of children using the garden (or yard, as you would say) to its full potential and means you have to disentangle children and their bicycles from wet bed sheets. 
- It looks pretty messy, which I personally dislike.

Get an umbrella-type rotary clothes line as mentioned in earlier posts.  this gives you loads of drying space while taking up very little of your outdoor area.  You can site it in a part of the garden that will not bother you or your meighbours, and can take it down easily when you do not want to use it. It is neat and practical, because you can hang and collect your laundry without having to roam all over the place.

Always bring in the dry laundry as soon as possible - this will be appreciated by your neighbours, and is much better for the clothes than being left out for days at a time.   

For bad weather (or days when you want to use the garden for something else, like sports or parties) just use folding airers inside the house, near an open window if it is not too cold.  This will dry your clothes perfectly well, and is really not that intrusive once you get used to it (did I read somewhere that you already hang nappies (diapers) to dry?).  

You need to be systematic in how you hang the clothes, so that you get optimal use from each airer and minimise ironing - so, hang shirts and t-shirts on hangers over the rails of the airer, fold sheets neatly before hanging, etc. If all else fails, you can get things virtually dry on the airers and then finish them off in the drier if you need them urgently (this is often helpful with small children in the house, but not really necessary once the children grow up).  

I wish you luck in your air-drying project, and hope that you succeed in starting an eco-trend in your neighbourhood!  

Jane</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, what a lot of opinions!  I thought I would give you my Englishwoman&#8217;s view of how to tackle this problem &#8211; I have the advantage of many decades of washing-hanging experience in various different environments.  </p>
<p>First, I think you are wise to consider the effect on your neighbours.  Like it or not, you need to co-exist with them and it always makes sense to think about ways of acheiving your aims without making unecessary enemies.  </p>
<p>I live in a country where dryers are not the norm, even though we get lots of rain. So I can certainly assure you that a dryer is not essential. </p>
<p>I think the main irritant with outdoor clothes lines is when people do not bother to bring their washing in when it is dry. Most English people do not want to look at their neighbours&#8217; weeks-old washing flapping about in the rain, even though they are not in the least bothered by the idea of washing lines. Here is what I recommend:</p>
<p>I would not advise a strung-between-posts type traditional clothes line, for these reasons:<br />
- They are not practical, because you have to cover a lot of ground to create a relatively small amount of drying space.<br />
- When you need to wipe the line clean(which you will from time to time, even in the country) it takes ages because it is strung all over the place.<br />
- Pegging out and collecting in the washing takes ages for the same reason, and you keep having to move the laundry basket along with you as you go.<br />
- It gets in the way of children using the garden (or yard, as you would say) to its full potential and means you have to disentangle children and their bicycles from wet bed sheets.<br />
- It looks pretty messy, which I personally dislike.</p>
<p>Get an umbrella-type rotary clothes line as mentioned in earlier posts.  this gives you loads of drying space while taking up very little of your outdoor area.  You can site it in a part of the garden that will not bother you or your meighbours, and can take it down easily when you do not want to use it. It is neat and practical, because you can hang and collect your laundry without having to roam all over the place.</p>
<p>Always bring in the dry laundry as soon as possible &#8211; this will be appreciated by your neighbours, and is much better for the clothes than being left out for days at a time.   </p>
<p>For bad weather (or days when you want to use the garden for something else, like sports or parties) just use folding airers inside the house, near an open window if it is not too cold.  This will dry your clothes perfectly well, and is really not that intrusive once you get used to it (did I read somewhere that you already hang nappies (diapers) to dry?).  </p>
<p>You need to be systematic in how you hang the clothes, so that you get optimal use from each airer and minimise ironing &#8211; so, hang shirts and t-shirts on hangers over the rails of the airer, fold sheets neatly before hanging, etc. If all else fails, you can get things virtually dry on the airers and then finish them off in the drier if you need them urgently (this is often helpful with small children in the house, but not really necessary once the children grow up).  </p>
<p>I wish you luck in your air-drying project, and hope that you succeed in starting an eco-trend in your neighbourhood!  </p>
<p>Jane</p>
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