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	<title>Comments on: Discussion: What Should Be Part of a High School Consumer Education Curriculum?</title>
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		<title>By: beth</title>
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		<dc:creator>beth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 22:09:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i wish schools (and govt)would put their money directly into students. if we believe in financial and personal responsibility and independence, put $1000 in a mutual fund account for every kid to have for college or tech school when they graduate. how much would that be in 12-13 years?
so much $ is wasted with BIG districts and BIG administrative costs that real learning is smothered in special programs and new ideas.
i teach high school and I do what I can for my 6 classes, but the system (grades)is not about real world learning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i wish schools (and govt)would put their money directly into students. if we believe in financial and personal responsibility and independence, put $1000 in a mutual fund account for every kid to have for college or tech school when they graduate. how much would that be in 12-13 years?<br />
so much $ is wasted with BIG districts and BIG administrative costs that real learning is smothered in special programs and new ideas.<br />
i teach high school and I do what I can for my 6 classes, but the system (grades)is not about real world learning.</p>
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		<title>By: Kris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 17:53:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This comes a year late, of course, but I edited a textbook, Consumer Economics and Personal Finance, that touched on these topics, as well as how to use public transportation and buy a car, renting an apartment, etc. It was published by Nextext, a division of Mcdougal Littell in 2002 and is likely out of print. We spent months researching state requirements to convince the publisher there was a market for this type of course. We came up with almost nothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This comes a year late, of course, but I edited a textbook, Consumer Economics and Personal Finance, that touched on these topics, as well as how to use public transportation and buy a car, renting an apartment, etc. It was published by Nextext, a division of Mcdougal Littell in 2002 and is likely out of print. We spent months researching state requirements to convince the publisher there was a market for this type of course. We came up with almost nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer Singh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer Singh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 21:37:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a teacher who taught us as 13-year-olds how to write letters to the companies we purchased from.  She showed us how to find the company&#039;s address and how to write an effective complaint letter (be brief, clear about satisfactory compensation, etc etc).  We had to write two such letters per grading period, and we had to give them to her for review before she mailed them for us.  It was WONDERFUL consumer training that I still use today.

As an 8-year old, I had a different teacher who gave us artificial checking accounts and pretend checks.  We used the checks to place pretend orders from toy catalogs, and we balanced our &quot;checkbooks&quot; to find out how much money was left.  There&#039;s a reason they always say it&#039;s &quot;never too early to start,&quot; you know?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a teacher who taught us as 13-year-olds how to write letters to the companies we purchased from.  She showed us how to find the company&#8217;s address and how to write an effective complaint letter (be brief, clear about satisfactory compensation, etc etc).  We had to write two such letters per grading period, and we had to give them to her for review before she mailed them for us.  It was WONDERFUL consumer training that I still use today.</p>
<p>As an 8-year old, I had a different teacher who gave us artificial checking accounts and pretend checks.  We used the checks to place pretend orders from toy catalogs, and we balanced our &#8220;checkbooks&#8221; to find out how much money was left.  There&#8217;s a reason they always say it&#8217;s &#8220;never too early to start,&#8221; you know?</p>
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		<title>By: Rhonda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rhonda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 22:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are materials available for schools to use to teach personal finance to teens. The FDIC has a curriculum, as does NEFE. 

I am currently trying to get personal finance classes started in our local library system because our schools do not teach it at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are materials available for schools to use to teach personal finance to teens. The FDIC has a curriculum, as does NEFE. </p>
<p>I am currently trying to get personal finance classes started in our local library system because our schools do not teach it at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Nate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 01:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you&#039;re missing one important part. 

Money does not equal Happiness</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;re missing one important part. </p>
<p>Money does not equal Happiness</p>
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		<title>By: Hallie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hallie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please also include a small section on balancing a checkbook!  I am a bank teller, and you would be shocked at the number of people who couldn&#039;t even come up with a ballpark figure of what they have in their account.  And a majority of these people wouldn&#039;t even know how to start when it comes to balancing a checkbook.  Knowing what you have is very important when you are trying to spend less!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please also include a small section on balancing a checkbook!  I am a bank teller, and you would be shocked at the number of people who couldn&#8217;t even come up with a ballpark figure of what they have in their account.  And a majority of these people wouldn&#8217;t even know how to start when it comes to balancing a checkbook.  Knowing what you have is very important when you are trying to spend less!</p>
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		<title>By: absatpitt</title>
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		<dc:creator>absatpitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:00:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As you write a curriculum, you must find a way to engage all students.  I might be misguided - but if this is for any sort of mass production - you need to take into account the culture surrounded by different socioeconomic status.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As you write a curriculum, you must find a way to engage all students.  I might be misguided &#8211; but if this is for any sort of mass production &#8211; you need to take into account the culture surrounded by different socioeconomic status.</p>
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		<title>By: Cindy B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cindy B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Junior Achievement has several classes they teach of starting a business and other financial issues.
www.ja.org</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Junior Achievement has several classes they teach of starting a business and other financial issues.<br />
<a href="http://www.ja.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.ja.org</a></p>
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		<title>By: Laurel Plum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laurel Plum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 07:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, the previous link was the page I had bookmarked.  If you follow the link, you will see &quot;Young Adults&quot; in the sidebar.  There are several resources under that category.  

We have stopped in on occasion to follow up on &quot;the lessons&quot; we have been working on.  They have often given us even more resources than those listed on the site.  They might also share those with you if you made the request.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, the previous link was the page I had bookmarked.  If you follow the link, you will see &#8220;Young Adults&#8221; in the sidebar.  There are several resources under that category.  </p>
<p>We have stopped in on occasion to follow up on &#8220;the lessons&#8221; we have been working on.  They have often given us even more resources than those listed on the site.  They might also share those with you if you made the request.</p>
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		<title>By: Laurel Plum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laurel Plum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 07:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a fairly new reader of the Simple Dollar, and love it. Thank you for taking the time and effort to produce such a great resource. 

re: today&#039;s post - I have a 17 year old at home.  Technically, in one year my teen will be an adult and should be able to live on their own. I feel that the majority of the education she has received in the last few years is purely theoretical based strictly in the ideal environments. Or sometimes worse, heavily biased to the personal interests of some of the teachers.  Usually, the teachers do not have alot of freedom in their lesson plans and are just as frustrated as we are, so I do not blame the teachers.  Life application lessons and critical thinking have fallen hard to the wayside in favor of political correctness and going way overboard in sensitivity training. I think this is a sad backlash of severe policies put into place to avoid any controversy and even more importantly to the powers that be - avoidance of any form of liabilty.  The result? I am not just afraid my teen is not ready for life, I am terrified because I know she is not.  

I equivicate the new policies toward curriculum style to an individual wanting to start their own small business and enrolling in courses where the curriculum is focused on how to be upper management of a fortune 500 company.  - you don&#039;t learn to do the accounting, you learn how to hire an accountant; -you don&#039;t learn human resource policies and laws, you learn how to develop a good HR department; etc. If you intend to run a company where at first you will be the sole employer and the sole employee, the real life application of your education makes it impossible to move forward. The guy down the block who chose not to take the courses is actually better off just from the lessons of trial and error.  

In our house, we continue to look for ways to supplement life skills education to bridge the gaps.  For finances, one of our local credit unions has a fairly good program for young adults.  Here is the web address - http://www.usfcu.org/asp/products/product_7_6.asp 
These tools have given us a good base to discuss applicable theory, use our own finances as real life examples, and then to together make plans using her own finances.  

There may be other programs out there that are as good or better, but I love that this program is geared specifically toward the young adult.  They have made it really easy to introduce and understand sometimes complex ideas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a fairly new reader of the Simple Dollar, and love it. Thank you for taking the time and effort to produce such a great resource. </p>
<p>re: today&#8217;s post &#8211; I have a 17 year old at home.  Technically, in one year my teen will be an adult and should be able to live on their own. I feel that the majority of the education she has received in the last few years is purely theoretical based strictly in the ideal environments. Or sometimes worse, heavily biased to the personal interests of some of the teachers.  Usually, the teachers do not have alot of freedom in their lesson plans and are just as frustrated as we are, so I do not blame the teachers.  Life application lessons and critical thinking have fallen hard to the wayside in favor of political correctness and going way overboard in sensitivity training. I think this is a sad backlash of severe policies put into place to avoid any controversy and even more importantly to the powers that be &#8211; avoidance of any form of liabilty.  The result? I am not just afraid my teen is not ready for life, I am terrified because I know she is not.  </p>
<p>I equivicate the new policies toward curriculum style to an individual wanting to start their own small business and enrolling in courses where the curriculum is focused on how to be upper management of a fortune 500 company.  &#8211; you don&#8217;t learn to do the accounting, you learn how to hire an accountant; -you don&#8217;t learn human resource policies and laws, you learn how to develop a good HR department; etc. If you intend to run a company where at first you will be the sole employer and the sole employee, the real life application of your education makes it impossible to move forward. The guy down the block who chose not to take the courses is actually better off just from the lessons of trial and error.  </p>
<p>In our house, we continue to look for ways to supplement life skills education to bridge the gaps.  For finances, one of our local credit unions has a fairly good program for young adults.  Here is the web address &#8211; <a href="http://www.usfcu.org/asp/products/product_7_6.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.usfcu.org/asp/products/product_7_6.asp</a><br />
These tools have given us a good base to discuss applicable theory, use our own finances as real life examples, and then to together make plans using her own finances.  </p>
<p>There may be other programs out there that are as good or better, but I love that this program is geared specifically toward the young adult.  They have made it really easy to introduce and understand sometimes complex ideas.</p>
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		<title>By: Pearl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pearl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 00:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But they&#039;ll just ignore it anyway&quot; is possibly the stupidest excuse I&#039;ve ever heard for why not to teach a child something.

This should be taught in schools because if it&#039;s not, they learn personal finance from their parents the way I did.  Which means I learned how to go bankrupt in my forties, have no savings or retirement fund, and how to leech off of my father, if I were so inclined.

I actually learned how the credit system worked from an off-hand comment by one of my roommates.  I learned how to budget by working myself into debt.  

I am in my early twenties and all of this did not happen because I&#039;m lazy.  It happened because I never learned the value of money.  This is why people my age are going into debt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But they&#8217;ll just ignore it anyway&#8221; is possibly the stupidest excuse I&#8217;ve ever heard for why not to teach a child something.</p>
<p>This should be taught in schools because if it&#8217;s not, they learn personal finance from their parents the way I did.  Which means I learned how to go bankrupt in my forties, have no savings or retirement fund, and how to leech off of my father, if I were so inclined.</p>
<p>I actually learned how the credit system worked from an off-hand comment by one of my roommates.  I learned how to budget by working myself into debt.  </p>
<p>I am in my early twenties and all of this did not happen because I&#8217;m lazy.  It happened because I never learned the value of money.  This is why people my age are going into debt.</p>
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		<title>By: spencer</title>
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		<dc:creator>spencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 21:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s my opinion that this stuff doesn&#039;t get taught because our economy is so consumer driven. 

If people spend less, save more, don&#039;t buy things they don&#039;t need and don&#039;t rack up massive amounts of credit card debt, that&#039;s less money for corporations and local businesses (many of which provide sponsorships/financial support to schools)It may sound like a conspiracy but it&#039;s easier to make money off the uneducated and uninformed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s my opinion that this stuff doesn&#8217;t get taught because our economy is so consumer driven. </p>
<p>If people spend less, save more, don&#8217;t buy things they don&#8217;t need and don&#8217;t rack up massive amounts of credit card debt, that&#8217;s less money for corporations and local businesses (many of which provide sponsorships/financial support to schools)It may sound like a conspiracy but it&#8217;s easier to make money off the uneducated and uninformed.</p>
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		<title>By: gr8whyte</title>
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		<dc:creator>gr8whyte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 20:36:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Greg (comment #25) : I cannot agree with &quot;... this can’t be just taught in a class–it’s something that has to be modeled on a daily basis. Who, in the kids’ lives is modeling this?&quot;. I learned lots of good stuff like math, English, and the sciences in high school that served me well throughout life so PF can and should be taught in school just like driving. If no financially-responsible model exists in the kids&#039; local environment, how about looking outside for one, e.g., Warren Buffett? No PF course can guarantee financial stability in life. Some will do well, some will crash. A PF course adds to the overall breadth of knowledge one acquires through life that might prevent a financial train wreck or two. A PF course can also point out that individuals cannot survive financially on the borrow-and-spend strategy practiced by our government. Our government can stay drunk on borrowed money largely because it has the power of taxation while individuals will end up in bankruptcy or perhaps in jail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Greg (comment #25) : I cannot agree with &#8220;&#8230; this can’t be just taught in a class–it’s something that has to be modeled on a daily basis. Who, in the kids’ lives is modeling this?&#8221;. I learned lots of good stuff like math, English, and the sciences in high school that served me well throughout life so PF can and should be taught in school just like driving. If no financially-responsible model exists in the kids&#8217; local environment, how about looking outside for one, e.g., Warren Buffett? No PF course can guarantee financial stability in life. Some will do well, some will crash. A PF course adds to the overall breadth of knowledge one acquires through life that might prevent a financial train wreck or two. A PF course can also point out that individuals cannot survive financially on the borrow-and-spend strategy practiced by our government. Our government can stay drunk on borrowed money largely because it has the power of taxation while individuals will end up in bankruptcy or perhaps in jail.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elizabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 20:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely agree with this. I have often thought about coming up with some type of guide or textbook to &quot;pitch&quot; to school systems because I agree that this is so important. I first became aware that a program like this was needed when I worked as a sub-prime auto loan manager. There are so many people out there that have no idea how to manage their money, what a credit score is and how they can sabotage themselves and their credit so easily. I think that one thing to add would be credit education including learning about credit  reports and the importance of this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree with this. I have often thought about coming up with some type of guide or textbook to &#8220;pitch&#8221; to school systems because I agree that this is so important. I first became aware that a program like this was needed when I worked as a sub-prime auto loan manager. There are so many people out there that have no idea how to manage their money, what a credit score is and how they can sabotage themselves and their credit so easily. I think that one thing to add would be credit education including learning about credit  reports and the importance of this.</p>
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		<title>By: LLC</title>
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		<dc:creator>LLC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 20:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In your online research, have you come across the National Endowment for Financial Education high school program.  They have created a curriculum that covers many of the topics that you address.  They make it available for free to many organizations, states, and any teacher that wants to try and implement.  They have tried to make it flexible to work with a variety of school districts and curricular mandates.  I&#039;m not affiliated with them, or an expert on their program, but here&#039;s a website to start with:

http://nefe.org/HighSchoolProgram/tabid/146/Default.aspx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In your online research, have you come across the National Endowment for Financial Education high school program.  They have created a curriculum that covers many of the topics that you address.  They make it available for free to many organizations, states, and any teacher that wants to try and implement.  They have tried to make it flexible to work with a variety of school districts and curricular mandates.  I&#8217;m not affiliated with them, or an expert on their program, but here&#8217;s a website to start with:</p>
<p><a href="http://nefe.org/HighSchoolProgram/tabid/146/Default.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://nefe.org/HighSchoolProgram/tabid/146/Default.aspx</a></p>
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		<title>By: Allie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 19:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Over the last few years I&#039;ve been thinking what a great idea it would be to teach a class such as this. All I remember learning in school was how to write out a check when I was in 7th grade. Pretty sad. I do agree that parents should teach these things to their kids but many don&#039;t because they don&#039;t even know themselves (just look at the housing market)or are embarassed about the mistakes they&#039;ve made in their own lives.

I think learning how to make ends meet on a resasonable salary would be great. Take the starting salary of whatever profession they see themselves in, show them all the taxes that come out, health insurance, retirement, etc. Then create a reasonable budget for food, clothing, utilities, housing, car, gas, gifts, student loans, emergencies and every other little thing that can come up in life. Then take it further and throw in a child since so many very young adults are having kids. See how fast the diapers, formula, daycare, working less or staying at home etc. all affect the budget. Students should see what kind of apartment a certain amount of money will get you, not just look in the newspaper. You might be able to live in a $500 a month apartment but what is the neighborhood like? Throughout the year the students should have certain emergencies or other financial requirements pop up unexpectedly. How does this affect their spending? 

Kids should also learn about the dangers of credit cards. How long will it take to pay off that new flat screen TV? How many hours of work is that equivalent to? They should also be shown how compounding interest works.

And of course the basics about money market funds, mutal funds, individual stocks. They could even play a stockpicking game, like the one on CNN. Learn about price/earnings ratios and such. 

Lots of luck Trent. Love the idea!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Over the last few years I&#8217;ve been thinking what a great idea it would be to teach a class such as this. All I remember learning in school was how to write out a check when I was in 7th grade. Pretty sad. I do agree that parents should teach these things to their kids but many don&#8217;t because they don&#8217;t even know themselves (just look at the housing market)or are embarassed about the mistakes they&#8217;ve made in their own lives.</p>
<p>I think learning how to make ends meet on a resasonable salary would be great. Take the starting salary of whatever profession they see themselves in, show them all the taxes that come out, health insurance, retirement, etc. Then create a reasonable budget for food, clothing, utilities, housing, car, gas, gifts, student loans, emergencies and every other little thing that can come up in life. Then take it further and throw in a child since so many very young adults are having kids. See how fast the diapers, formula, daycare, working less or staying at home etc. all affect the budget. Students should see what kind of apartment a certain amount of money will get you, not just look in the newspaper. You might be able to live in a $500 a month apartment but what is the neighborhood like? Throughout the year the students should have certain emergencies or other financial requirements pop up unexpectedly. How does this affect their spending? </p>
<p>Kids should also learn about the dangers of credit cards. How long will it take to pay off that new flat screen TV? How many hours of work is that equivalent to? They should also be shown how compounding interest works.</p>
<p>And of course the basics about money market funds, mutal funds, individual stocks. They could even play a stockpicking game, like the one on CNN. Learn about price/earnings ratios and such. </p>
<p>Lots of luck Trent. Love the idea!</p>
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		<title>By: mollyh</title>
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		<dc:creator>mollyh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 18:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think basic economics and consumer education is very important, and should be taught in school.  Considering the astounding rates of bankruptcy and foreclosure recently I&#039;m not sure some parents even know enough about their own finances to impart these lessons to their children.  That being said, I also understand that the state, district and school boards dictate what can and should be taught in those kinds of classes. What they don&#039;t dictate is the way in which it is taught.  The way to really get across to teenagers is to make it real to them.  The book you just reviewed, &quot;you&#039;re so money&quot;, would probably be helpful to that age group because a lot of them are brand focused and as a teenager it is so important to have all the right &#039;stuff&#039;.  It might impact them to know that they can manage finances responsibly and still have money for the newest iPhone.
The other thing teenagers are really good at is competition.  In my high school economics class everyone had to do &quot;the stock project&quot;.  This was in essense a semester long project in which students were given a certain amount of hypothetical money and instructed to &#039;invest&#039; in at least four different stocks.  We then had to track our stocks all semester and report on our hypothetical financial situation at the end of the semester.  How much better could this project have been if it had an element of competition?  Student with the most capital gains wins one prize, student with the most stable overall portfolio wins another prize, etc. 
In this ever more technical society, students could be given an avitar in SecondLife and spend a semester managing &quot;real life&quot; scenarios like buying a house in an evironment ripe with learning opportunities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think basic economics and consumer education is very important, and should be taught in school.  Considering the astounding rates of bankruptcy and foreclosure recently I&#8217;m not sure some parents even know enough about their own finances to impart these lessons to their children.  That being said, I also understand that the state, district and school boards dictate what can and should be taught in those kinds of classes. What they don&#8217;t dictate is the way in which it is taught.  The way to really get across to teenagers is to make it real to them.  The book you just reviewed, &#8220;you&#8217;re so money&#8221;, would probably be helpful to that age group because a lot of them are brand focused and as a teenager it is so important to have all the right &#8217;stuff&#8217;.  It might impact them to know that they can manage finances responsibly and still have money for the newest iPhone.<br />
The other thing teenagers are really good at is competition.  In my high school economics class everyone had to do &#8220;the stock project&#8221;.  This was in essense a semester long project in which students were given a certain amount of hypothetical money and instructed to &#8216;invest&#8217; in at least four different stocks.  We then had to track our stocks all semester and report on our hypothetical financial situation at the end of the semester.  How much better could this project have been if it had an element of competition?  Student with the most capital gains wins one prize, student with the most stable overall portfolio wins another prize, etc.<br />
In this ever more technical society, students could be given an avitar in SecondLife and spend a semester managing &#8220;real life&#8221; scenarios like buying a house in an evironment ripe with learning opportunities.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 17:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since I taught in a private school, I had the freedom to design a good bit of the curriculum. I was able to do a number of things posters have suggested in our Economics course-- and the kids did respond well to things like &quot;draw your career and Life curcumstances( married/not,spouse&#039;s career/ # of kids/where you live/ current debt level and why) out of the hat; now do the research on cost of living and design a budget.&quot; We added in things like retirement/savings and net income in 10 year periods, occasionally throwing in disasters, opportunities, and in one case a big inheritance( tax discussion got very interesting!) I taught a lot of Dave Ramsey in the process--and in the several years since, I&#039;ve heard from several of the kids talking about things from that course and what it meant to their lives now. It&#039;s not a lost cause! It is a lot like teaching religion--you have to get the disciples out their speading the word! If we give the facts, like so many of the posters are saying, they will use them--and even if they don&#039;t, cause jules is right about the neuroscience, the information will be there for when they do have a fully functioning brain! Maybe the public school teachers are too hamstrung by various powers-that-be to teach this stuff--the homeschoolers will pick it up--and they are a large enough group to make a difference in the future. So go to it, Trent!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since I taught in a private school, I had the freedom to design a good bit of the curriculum. I was able to do a number of things posters have suggested in our Economics course&#8211; and the kids did respond well to things like &#8220;draw your career and Life curcumstances( married/not,spouse&#8217;s career/ # of kids/where you live/ current debt level and why) out of the hat; now do the research on cost of living and design a budget.&#8221; We added in things like retirement/savings and net income in 10 year periods, occasionally throwing in disasters, opportunities, and in one case a big inheritance( tax discussion got very interesting!) I taught a lot of Dave Ramsey in the process&#8211;and in the several years since, I&#8217;ve heard from several of the kids talking about things from that course and what it meant to their lives now. It&#8217;s not a lost cause! It is a lot like teaching religion&#8211;you have to get the disciples out their speading the word! If we give the facts, like so many of the posters are saying, they will use them&#8211;and even if they don&#8217;t, cause jules is right about the neuroscience, the information will be there for when they do have a fully functioning brain! Maybe the public school teachers are too hamstrung by various powers-that-be to teach this stuff&#8211;the homeschoolers will pick it up&#8211;and they are a large enough group to make a difference in the future. So go to it, Trent!</p>
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		<title>By: Kathleen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 17:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For me, consumer ed was required only in 7th and 8th grade.  Too little, and too early for it to really make a difference.  Worse, it focused entirely on cooking and sewing, not finances/credit/budgeting.  Cooking &amp; sewing are both useful skills, but, while anyone can and will teach themselves how to cook if the need arises, a lot of people won&#039;t even realize the need for financial knowledge until it is much, much too late.  It took me 7 years of managing my own finances to realize I needed a budget.  I&#039;m sure I&#039;m not the worst-case scenario, either.

@Kate
Very good point about the special financial needs of women- I&#039;ve never heard any of this addressed while in high school.  I think mentioning that women typically earn less and often interrupt their careers to have children is treading into dangerous territory for many H.S. teachers.   Not to mention divorce and the importance for women to understand and be involved with the family finances. They just don&#039;t want to go there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For me, consumer ed was required only in 7th and 8th grade.  Too little, and too early for it to really make a difference.  Worse, it focused entirely on cooking and sewing, not finances/credit/budgeting.  Cooking &amp; sewing are both useful skills, but, while anyone can and will teach themselves how to cook if the need arises, a lot of people won&#8217;t even realize the need for financial knowledge until it is much, much too late.  It took me 7 years of managing my own finances to realize I needed a budget.  I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;m not the worst-case scenario, either.</p>
<p>@Kate<br />
Very good point about the special financial needs of women- I&#8217;ve never heard any of this addressed while in high school.  I think mentioning that women typically earn less and often interrupt their careers to have children is treading into dangerous territory for many H.S. teachers.   Not to mention divorce and the importance for women to understand and be involved with the family finances. They just don&#8217;t want to go there.</p>
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		<title>By: Liz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 17:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m also a teacher (there seem to be a lot of us posting on this one)! My background is in library science, i.e. teaching how to critically evaluate information, file it away, etc. I think this course would be great across the curriculum if the teachers can find the time/approval from their districts. 

In the past, I&#039;ve taught my college freshmen using real-world examples, such as you have $700 to get a new computer because yours just broke...which one are you going to go with and why (and not just rely on advertising). 

While I think saving early for retirement is a very, very important topic, I&#039;m not sure it will appeal to a student who isn&#039;t making any money. It should definitely be mentioned, but it&#039;s hard to get a 30-year-old excited about retirement (trust me, I&#039;ve met a few of them). 

I think it would be valuable to show how much things/food/clothing cost in the world. Have a set annual income for their chosen profession and call a few apartment places, etc. to get quotes. Teach them how to plan meals and how much it will cost at the grocery store, etc. Then, figure out how much paying off a certain amount of students loans will cost each year. (I wish I had understood a bit more about that one). 

My personal feeling is that this is a parent&#039;s job. But, then again, I think there are a lot of things that are a parent&#039;s job that have become a teacher&#039;s job. That being said, it&#039;s still important to provide the information because even if it reaches one kid - you have made a difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m also a teacher (there seem to be a lot of us posting on this one)! My background is in library science, i.e. teaching how to critically evaluate information, file it away, etc. I think this course would be great across the curriculum if the teachers can find the time/approval from their districts. </p>
<p>In the past, I&#8217;ve taught my college freshmen using real-world examples, such as you have $700 to get a new computer because yours just broke&#8230;which one are you going to go with and why (and not just rely on advertising). </p>
<p>While I think saving early for retirement is a very, very important topic, I&#8217;m not sure it will appeal to a student who isn&#8217;t making any money. It should definitely be mentioned, but it&#8217;s hard to get a 30-year-old excited about retirement (trust me, I&#8217;ve met a few of them). </p>
<p>I think it would be valuable to show how much things/food/clothing cost in the world. Have a set annual income for their chosen profession and call a few apartment places, etc. to get quotes. Teach them how to plan meals and how much it will cost at the grocery store, etc. Then, figure out how much paying off a certain amount of students loans will cost each year. (I wish I had understood a bit more about that one). </p>
<p>My personal feeling is that this is a parent&#8217;s job. But, then again, I think there are a lot of things that are a parent&#8217;s job that have become a teacher&#8217;s job. That being said, it&#8217;s still important to provide the information because even if it reaches one kid &#8211; you have made a difference.</p>
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