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	<title>Comments on: A Look at the Startup Cost &#8211; And Why It&#8217;s Usually Good to Go Cheap at First</title>
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		<title>By: Doug Groce &#124; Fitness. Performance. Health</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug Groce &#124; Fitness. Performance. Health</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 22:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Something to add more specific to buying running shoes:

You should also think about increments or jumps in quality.

With running shoes, the $20 ones are going to be poor quality and make your feet hurt.

However, there is actually little difference between the $60 shoes and the $120 (unless they&#039;re custom made to your gait characteristics)--even for experienced runners.

On top of that, the running shoe for a runner with average mileage should be replaced every 6 WEEKS--regardless of the price of the shoe.

The structure of the shoe simply doesn&#039;t last much longer.

So in this case, it makes more sense to buy the $60 shoe that you&#039;re going to have to replace in a couple months anyway if you&#039;re a serious runner.

Hope this helps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something to add more specific to buying running shoes:</p>
<p>You should also think about increments or jumps in quality.</p>
<p>With running shoes, the $20 ones are going to be poor quality and make your feet hurt.</p>
<p>However, there is actually little difference between the $60 shoes and the $120 (unless they&#8217;re custom made to your gait characteristics)&#8211;even for experienced runners.</p>
<p>On top of that, the running shoe for a runner with average mileage should be replaced every 6 WEEKS&#8211;regardless of the price of the shoe.</p>
<p>The structure of the shoe simply doesn&#8217;t last much longer.</p>
<p>So in this case, it makes more sense to buy the $60 shoe that you&#8217;re going to have to replace in a couple months anyway if you&#8217;re a serious runner.</p>
<p>Hope this helps.</p>
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		<title>By: NIUiceprincess</title>
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		<dc:creator>NIUiceprincess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 13:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with this article...I think you should give it a &quot;go&quot; first with a cheaper item rather than going for broke. My sister has a friend who went snowboarding ONCE with them and the next week, he went and bought a high level (not beginner) snowboard, new boots, professional jacket, goggles, the works. I think he ended up spending close to $1000. Guess what, that winter he only ended up going snowboarding again once or twice at most. And last winter they didn&#039;t even go once!

When I decided to take up figure skating again 3 yrs ago for fitness and pleasure after having taken lessons as a kid, I decided to get cheaper beginner skates at $100 (I never liked rental skates, the rentals at our rink are in such bad condition that i think it&#039;s a waste of money on lessons if i used them, since the rental skates would have clearly hampered my progress). Anyway I liked it so much and I progressed through the levels. Finally when I started spinning again my coach noticed that I kept ending up on my toe picks, and she looked at my skates. She said that if I wanted to go further I will have to upgrade since i have &quot;outgrown&quot; my current skates level-wise. I thought about it since higher level blades and boots cost hundreds of dollars but my love for skating has never wavered, I never found myself saying &quot;bah wish I didn&#039;t have to go skate today&quot;. So I used my next tax refund to buy boots and blades that totalled $600, and I am back doing salchows and toe loops again. I am so glad I made the splurge, thinking this purchase is not so much materialistic but it is good for my body, physically and mentally. I have even moved on from group classes to private lessons which cost more...my husband is all for them though he said he&#039;d rather see me spend money on exercise rather than a new purse that I will tire from a few months from now. I have felt guilty buying new purses and shoes in the past but not my skates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with this article&#8230;I think you should give it a &#8220;go&#8221; first with a cheaper item rather than going for broke. My sister has a friend who went snowboarding ONCE with them and the next week, he went and bought a high level (not beginner) snowboard, new boots, professional jacket, goggles, the works. I think he ended up spending close to $1000. Guess what, that winter he only ended up going snowboarding again once or twice at most. And last winter they didn&#8217;t even go once!</p>
<p>When I decided to take up figure skating again 3 yrs ago for fitness and pleasure after having taken lessons as a kid, I decided to get cheaper beginner skates at $100 (I never liked rental skates, the rentals at our rink are in such bad condition that i think it&#8217;s a waste of money on lessons if i used them, since the rental skates would have clearly hampered my progress). Anyway I liked it so much and I progressed through the levels. Finally when I started spinning again my coach noticed that I kept ending up on my toe picks, and she looked at my skates. She said that if I wanted to go further I will have to upgrade since i have &#8220;outgrown&#8221; my current skates level-wise. I thought about it since higher level blades and boots cost hundreds of dollars but my love for skating has never wavered, I never found myself saying &#8220;bah wish I didn&#8217;t have to go skate today&#8221;. So I used my next tax refund to buy boots and blades that totalled $600, and I am back doing salchows and toe loops again. I am so glad I made the splurge, thinking this purchase is not so much materialistic but it is good for my body, physically and mentally. I have even moved on from group classes to private lessons which cost more&#8230;my husband is all for them though he said he&#8217;d rather see me spend money on exercise rather than a new purse that I will tire from a few months from now. I have felt guilty buying new purses and shoes in the past but not my skates.</p>
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		<title>By: Marie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 19:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What makes me laugh is that most folks have 3-5 of every spatula, spoon and knife and complain that the kitchen is too small. Drives my friends crazy that I refuse to have more than ONE of most items in my kitchen. That is where the extra $3-4 savings goes...more stuff that takes up space and is rarely used. I am so glad frugal is becoming the style-some of us are tired of being the oddballs!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What makes me laugh is that most folks have 3-5 of every spatula, spoon and knife and complain that the kitchen is too small. Drives my friends crazy that I refuse to have more than ONE of most items in my kitchen. That is where the extra $3-4 savings goes&#8230;more stuff that takes up space and is rarely used. I am so glad frugal is becoming the style-some of us are tired of being the oddballs!</p>
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		<title>By: Lara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 15:08:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I&#039;m glad that some of you don&#039;t see me as an &quot;absolute fool&quot;! LOL 

Seriously, I was referring to the example used in that post I commented on. There&#039;s a huge difference, in my mind, between shelling out three extra dollars for something that makes a HUGE difference in quality and experience than spending an extra $20, $50, $100 or more on something I&#039;ve decided upon at whim. 

Face it, there are tons of people who have gone to the gym twice since beginning their monthly payments a year ago. THAT, yes, is foolish. 

Buying $120 sneakers when you&#039;re just getting into jogging, especially when you either have a decent pair of sneaks that fit and are comfortable, or can buy a pair for $30? Yes, that too, would be foolish.

But the difference between a small salad and a large salad isn&#039;t detrimental to your pocket when you&#039;re really REALLY hungry. That was my point. 

And um, whoever it was that psychoanalyzed me up there? Yeah, I don&#039;t have psychological issues over a blackened cookie sheet, nor my cheap ex-boyfriend. I just think that in order to do a job properly, it&#039;s not okay to cut a corner THAT much is all. I love baking and cooking and I love doing it on shiny, airbake stuff because the food comes out better and *I know* that it was cooked on a very clean piece of bakeware.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I&#8217;m glad that some of you don&#8217;t see me as an &#8220;absolute fool&#8221;! LOL </p>
<p>Seriously, I was referring to the example used in that post I commented on. There&#8217;s a huge difference, in my mind, between shelling out three extra dollars for something that makes a HUGE difference in quality and experience than spending an extra $20, $50, $100 or more on something I&#8217;ve decided upon at whim. </p>
<p>Face it, there are tons of people who have gone to the gym twice since beginning their monthly payments a year ago. THAT, yes, is foolish. </p>
<p>Buying $120 sneakers when you&#8217;re just getting into jogging, especially when you either have a decent pair of sneaks that fit and are comfortable, or can buy a pair for $30? Yes, that too, would be foolish.</p>
<p>But the difference between a small salad and a large salad isn&#8217;t detrimental to your pocket when you&#8217;re really REALLY hungry. That was my point. </p>
<p>And um, whoever it was that psychoanalyzed me up there? Yeah, I don&#8217;t have psychological issues over a blackened cookie sheet, nor my cheap ex-boyfriend. I just think that in order to do a job properly, it&#8217;s not okay to cut a corner THAT much is all. I love baking and cooking and I love doing it on shiny, airbake stuff because the food comes out better and *I know* that it was cooked on a very clean piece of bakeware.</p>
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		<title>By: Ocean Skater</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ocean Skater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 14:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great points!  I did the same thing recently when I started running again, but I only ran in the old shoes for 3 weeks due to some knee pain I was developing.  I also recently decided to start making green smoothies.  The price for the fancy blender that chops your spinach &amp; kale to pureed perfection?  $400!  So I started with a Walmart special, about about $40, and hope by the time that one burns out, I&#039;ll find a used Blendtec on Craig&#039;s List :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great points!  I did the same thing recently when I started running again, but I only ran in the old shoes for 3 weeks due to some knee pain I was developing.  I also recently decided to start making green smoothies.  The price for the fancy blender that chops your spinach &amp; kale to pureed perfection?  $400!  So I started with a Walmart special, about about $40, and hope by the time that one burns out, I&#8217;ll find a used Blendtec on Craig&#8217;s List :)</p>
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		<title>By: Erin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 19:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree the &quot;absolute fool&quot; characterization is extreme when talking about a difference of $3, but I understand the underlying point.

Even better, though, would be to seek out someone who DOES have experience with the hobby you&#039;re interested in and ask if they can give you some pointers, perhaps give you a lesson or two, and maybe even lend you some starter equipment so you can see what works for you - that way you not only don&#039;t waste money on crap, you also turn your interest into a bonding experience by giving someone the opportunity to share their passion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree the &#8220;absolute fool&#8221; characterization is extreme when talking about a difference of $3, but I understand the underlying point.</p>
<p>Even better, though, would be to seek out someone who DOES have experience with the hobby you&#8217;re interested in and ask if they can give you some pointers, perhaps give you a lesson or two, and maybe even lend you some starter equipment so you can see what works for you &#8211; that way you not only don&#8217;t waste money on crap, you also turn your interest into a bonding experience by giving someone the opportunity to share their passion.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 16:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You’d be an absolute fool to choose the $4 pan.&quot;

First of all, I think that&#039;s a little harsh seeing as we&#039;re talking about a difference of $3. Maybe it wasn&#039;t the right choice, but I wouldn&#039;t say it&#039;s absolutely foolish. Even if the cookie sheet was $20, it can be used for many other things besides baking cookies.

Second, I consider it absolutely foolish to blindly follow Consumer Reports&#039; recommendations for every purchase - especially for something as personal and custom as running shoes. Even if the pair of Nikes that you bought had a 100% positive review in CR, you should not base your running shoe purchase on other people&#039;s reviews. To avoid foolish behavior in this case, you&#039;d go to a professional athletic store and have them evaluate your run to determine your amount of pronate. Everyone has a different running pattern which is why you shouldn&#039;t base your purchase on what Consumer Reports tells you (which you, Trent, seem to do A LOT).

Don&#039;t get me wrong, I think CR is a good resource. But I think it&#039;s &quot;absolutely foolish&quot; to use it as a purchase bible in the way that you do.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You’d be an absolute fool to choose the $4 pan.&#8221;</p>
<p>First of all, I think that&#8217;s a little harsh seeing as we&#8217;re talking about a difference of $3. Maybe it wasn&#8217;t the right choice, but I wouldn&#8217;t say it&#8217;s absolutely foolish. Even if the cookie sheet was $20, it can be used for many other things besides baking cookies.</p>
<p>Second, I consider it absolutely foolish to blindly follow Consumer Reports&#8217; recommendations for every purchase &#8211; especially for something as personal and custom as running shoes. Even if the pair of Nikes that you bought had a 100% positive review in CR, you should not base your running shoe purchase on other people&#8217;s reviews. To avoid foolish behavior in this case, you&#8217;d go to a professional athletic store and have them evaluate your run to determine your amount of pronate. Everyone has a different running pattern which is why you shouldn&#8217;t base your purchase on what Consumer Reports tells you (which you, Trent, seem to do A LOT).</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I think CR is a good resource. But I think it&#8217;s &#8220;absolutely foolish&#8221; to use it as a purchase bible in the way that you do.</p>
<p>Just my two cents.</p>
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		<title>By: BonzoGal</title>
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		<dc:creator>BonzoGal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 15:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we&#039;re getting stuck on the &quot;$1 vs. $4&quot; amounts-  I&#039;ve never seen a $4 cookie sheet.  What if the difference is actually a $10 sheet vs. a $25 sheet?  I&#039;ve read enough issues of Cook&#039;s Illustrated where they rated a low-priced sheet as the best over all the &quot;air cooled&quot; cookie sheets that cost $20 and more. 

I think Trent&#039;s real point is if you are pretty dang sure that you might use something a lot, then try to buy quality; if you&#039;re NOT SURE that you&#039;re going to, then try out a cheaper piece of equipment first, either by buying cheap, buying used, borrowing, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we&#8217;re getting stuck on the &#8220;$1 vs. $4&#8243; amounts-  I&#8217;ve never seen a $4 cookie sheet.  What if the difference is actually a $10 sheet vs. a $25 sheet?  I&#8217;ve read enough issues of Cook&#8217;s Illustrated where they rated a low-priced sheet as the best over all the &#8220;air cooled&#8221; cookie sheets that cost $20 and more. </p>
<p>I think Trent&#8217;s real point is if you are pretty dang sure that you might use something a lot, then try to buy quality; if you&#8217;re NOT SURE that you&#8217;re going to, then try out a cheaper piece of equipment first, either by buying cheap, buying used, borrowing, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Betsi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Betsi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 03:33:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I agree with your theory on larger ticket hobby purchases I still disagree on the $1 cookie sheet vs. $4 cookie sheet. Spend the $3 extra dollars and keep yourself from burning your cookies. Besides, you can make many more things on a cookie sheet than just cookies...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I agree with your theory on larger ticket hobby purchases I still disagree on the $1 cookie sheet vs. $4 cookie sheet. Spend the $3 extra dollars and keep yourself from burning your cookies. Besides, you can make many more things on a cookie sheet than just cookies&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Lianna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lianna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 22:17:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Buy a sport-specific shoe for the fit.  Period.  Messing around with someone else&#039;s review of something that is very specific to YOUR body geometry is a waste of money.  Maggie&#039;s advice (above) about visiting the store specific to your sport is very sound.  I just don&#039;t want you to throw your money on some bling shoes that aren&#039;t right for your feet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Buy a sport-specific shoe for the fit.  Period.  Messing around with someone else&#8217;s review of something that is very specific to YOUR body geometry is a waste of money.  Maggie&#8217;s advice (above) about visiting the store specific to your sport is very sound.  I just don&#8217;t want you to throw your money on some bling shoes that aren&#8217;t right for your feet.</p>
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		<title>By: Borealis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Borealis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 22:00:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to work in a bicycle shop.  You wouldn&#039;t believe how many couples decided to take up bike riding for a hobby, even though they had not biked in a decade.  But they usually bought brand new $800 bikes, which probably get used once a year or less.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to work in a bicycle shop.  You wouldn&#8217;t believe how many couples decided to take up bike riding for a hobby, even though they had not biked in a decade.  But they usually bought brand new $800 bikes, which probably get used once a year or less.</p>
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		<title>By: Vince Laurent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vince Laurent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 18:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to think this was but then I had too many experiences where the crappy equipment would turn me off going further in a hobby/interest.  I would by the $4 pan and make myself make enough cookies to make it worth my while.  THEN, if after enough I might buy a better one or chuck it.  When I buy better starting equipment I make myself use it.  Don&#039;t have time/will to use it? Don&#039;t buy it in the first place.  Buying a crappy something is only going to help you fail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to think this was but then I had too many experiences where the crappy equipment would turn me off going further in a hobby/interest.  I would by the $4 pan and make myself make enough cookies to make it worth my while.  THEN, if after enough I might buy a better one or chuck it.  When I buy better starting equipment I make myself use it.  Don&#8217;t have time/will to use it? Don&#8217;t buy it in the first place.  Buying a crappy something is only going to help you fail.</p>
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		<title>By: BonzoGal</title>
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		<dc:creator>BonzoGal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 18:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Red, good idea on the purchase of the bike light- $350 may seem high, but it protects your life! I&#039;d say don&#039;t cheap out on things that affect your health (good shoes, bike safety equipment) but it&#039;s okay to &quot;cheap out&quot; on some cooking equipment at first. 

A cheap cookie sheet doesn&#039;t guarantee burned cookies, nor does a cheap knife make things all THAT  horrible. I cooked with cheap stuff for years and turned out fine meals. Now that I can afford good equipment, I buy that because it makes cooking more pleasurable and lasts longer, but using cheapo stuff wasn&#039;t too bad, really. I figured out good pans and knives make sense for me, but &quot;good&quot; baking equipment doesn&#039;t because I rarely bake. (And a good martini shaker is ESSENTIAL!)   ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Red, good idea on the purchase of the bike light- $350 may seem high, but it protects your life! I&#8217;d say don&#8217;t cheap out on things that affect your health (good shoes, bike safety equipment) but it&#8217;s okay to &#8220;cheap out&#8221; on some cooking equipment at first. </p>
<p>A cheap cookie sheet doesn&#8217;t guarantee burned cookies, nor does a cheap knife make things all THAT  horrible. I cooked with cheap stuff for years and turned out fine meals. Now that I can afford good equipment, I buy that because it makes cooking more pleasurable and lasts longer, but using cheapo stuff wasn&#8217;t too bad, really. I figured out good pans and knives make sense for me, but &#8220;good&#8221; baking equipment doesn&#8217;t because I rarely bake. (And a good martini shaker is ESSENTIAL!)   ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Carlos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carlos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 18:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Trent-

Congratulations on your decision to get into better shape.  In the spirit of this post, I have suggest that you purchase something, but use a free tool with it :-)

The &quot;purchase something&quot; is a Garmin Forerunner 205: http://www.amazon.com/Garmin-010-00466-00-Forerunner-Wrist-Mounted-Computer/dp/B000CSQJ8C/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=electronics&amp;qid=1215453236&amp;sr=8-1.  You may a first balk at the idea, thinking this is only for semi-pro athletes or marathon runners.  Indeed, this GPS is awesome, because it not only tracks your distance, but estimates (based on parameters you input), the number of calories you burn per workout.  The GPS only works outdoors, and is 10x more accurate than a pedometer.

The best free software tool to use with it is: Sport Tracks http://www.zonefivesoftware.com/SportTracks/.

Sport tracks creates a logbook of your activity and lets you handily review it - hard to explain in a post, but, it&#039;s the best tool out there.

Emotionally, to be able to look at a month, and see the number of times you&#039;ve worked out, and the number of days you didn&#039;t, helps keep things in perspective.

You&#039;ll need to burn 3600 calories per pound you wish to lose (assuming you keep your current caloric intake similar to what it is now).

I needed to lose 25 pounds; doing the math, that&#039;s = 90,000 calories!!!  Using the Forerunner and Sport Tracks, I tracked everything I did outdoors for several months (I hate exercising indoors, anyway), and, it proved to be pretty accurate.  I&#039;m now on to losing the next 35...

The forerunner tracks calorie consumption for biking, running, kayaking, etc.  The thing I learned early on is that minute-for-minute, biking is the best exercise you can do.  If I ride hard, I can burn 3600 calories in a bit under three hours.  Ride three times a week, and you&#039;ll drop 12 pounds in a month.  Figure out how much you have to jog to lose that much weight (about 1 million miles, and it&#039;s way harder on your knees)...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Trent-</p>
<p>Congratulations on your decision to get into better shape.  In the spirit of this post, I have suggest that you purchase something, but use a free tool with it :-)</p>
<p>The &#8220;purchase something&#8221; is a Garmin Forerunner 205: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Garmin-010-00466-00-Forerunner-Wrist-Mounted-Computer/dp/B000CSQJ8C/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=electronics&amp;qid=1215453236&amp;sr=8-1" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/Garmin-010-00466-00-Forerunner-Wrist-Mounted-Computer/dp/B000CSQJ8C/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=electronics&amp;qid=1215453236&amp;sr=8-1</a>.  You may a first balk at the idea, thinking this is only for semi-pro athletes or marathon runners.  Indeed, this GPS is awesome, because it not only tracks your distance, but estimates (based on parameters you input), the number of calories you burn per workout.  The GPS only works outdoors, and is 10x more accurate than a pedometer.</p>
<p>The best free software tool to use with it is: Sport Tracks <a href="http://www.zonefivesoftware.com/SportTracks/" rel="nofollow">http://www.zonefivesoftware.com/SportTracks/</a>.</p>
<p>Sport tracks creates a logbook of your activity and lets you handily review it &#8211; hard to explain in a post, but, it&#8217;s the best tool out there.</p>
<p>Emotionally, to be able to look at a month, and see the number of times you&#8217;ve worked out, and the number of days you didn&#8217;t, helps keep things in perspective.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ll need to burn 3600 calories per pound you wish to lose (assuming you keep your current caloric intake similar to what it is now).</p>
<p>I needed to lose 25 pounds; doing the math, that&#8217;s = 90,000 calories!!!  Using the Forerunner and Sport Tracks, I tracked everything I did outdoors for several months (I hate exercising indoors, anyway), and, it proved to be pretty accurate.  I&#8217;m now on to losing the next 35&#8230;</p>
<p>The forerunner tracks calorie consumption for biking, running, kayaking, etc.  The thing I learned early on is that minute-for-minute, biking is the best exercise you can do.  If I ride hard, I can burn 3600 calories in a bit under three hours.  Ride three times a week, and you&#8217;ll drop 12 pounds in a month.  Figure out how much you have to jog to lose that much weight (about 1 million miles, and it&#8217;s way harder on your knees)&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Frugal Girl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frugal Girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 17:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was thinking &quot;absolute fool&quot; was a little harsh too.  If we&#039;re talking $4 baking pan vs. $95 baking pan, ok.  But a three dollar difference is just not that big of a deal, and like someone else said, a $1 pan is not going to make good cookies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was thinking &#8220;absolute fool&#8221; was a little harsh too.  If we&#8217;re talking $4 baking pan vs. $95 baking pan, ok.  But a three dollar difference is just not that big of a deal, and like someone else said, a $1 pan is not going to make good cookies.</p>
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		<title>By: Red</title>
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		<dc:creator>Red</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 16:27:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely agree with this.

I started biking to work, 20 miles round trip, and I wanted to buy a bunch of expensive stuff initially, but held off.

After my first ride I figured out some necessities:
1) Gloves with padding (otherwise: ouch)
2) Biking shorts with padding (indeed, ouch again)
3) Panniers (carrying stuff on your back makes you unnecessarily sweaty)

I still wanted to get an expensive light setup and clip on pedals with bike shoes.  I told myself I could get those after riding 500 miles (5 weeks)

Before I reached that 500 miles, I discovered I hated carrying anything extra, and so I really didn&#039;t want to bring another pair of shoes and then switch at work.  Saved me probably ~$180 in shoes+clip on pedals.

On the flip side, I finally came to realize that for riding at night, the only acceptable lights are really the top tier, so I returned my already expensive (and well reviewed) $120 light and put out the money for a Jet Blast HID light for $350, which I&#039;ve been very happy with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree with this.</p>
<p>I started biking to work, 20 miles round trip, and I wanted to buy a bunch of expensive stuff initially, but held off.</p>
<p>After my first ride I figured out some necessities:<br />
1) Gloves with padding (otherwise: ouch)<br />
2) Biking shorts with padding (indeed, ouch again)<br />
3) Panniers (carrying stuff on your back makes you unnecessarily sweaty)</p>
<p>I still wanted to get an expensive light setup and clip on pedals with bike shoes.  I told myself I could get those after riding 500 miles (5 weeks)</p>
<p>Before I reached that 500 miles, I discovered I hated carrying anything extra, and so I really didn&#8217;t want to bring another pair of shoes and then switch at work.  Saved me probably ~$180 in shoes+clip on pedals.</p>
<p>On the flip side, I finally came to realize that for riding at night, the only acceptable lights are really the top tier, so I returned my already expensive (and well reviewed) $120 light and put out the money for a Jet Blast HID light for $350, which I&#8217;ve been very happy with.</p>
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		<title>By: Marie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 15:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great Rule:

Procrastinate when it comes to spending! 

This rule keeps me out of trouble and it is the only procrastination I indulge in. I am a very cheerful giver, very slow spender.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great Rule:</p>
<p>Procrastinate when it comes to spending! </p>
<p>This rule keeps me out of trouble and it is the only procrastination I indulge in. I am a very cheerful giver, very slow spender.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 15:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d recommend you find out why and where you are saving money when your health and safety are on the line. 

To use your example of an athletic shoe, I actually hurt myself running on pavement with cheap poorly cushioned shoes (made by a major US athletic shoemaker). 

This example could easily be related to beds, cleaning agents, food, batteries... the list goes on and on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d recommend you find out why and where you are saving money when your health and safety are on the line. </p>
<p>To use your example of an athletic shoe, I actually hurt myself running on pavement with cheap poorly cushioned shoes (made by a major US athletic shoemaker). </p>
<p>This example could easily be related to beds, cleaning agents, food, batteries&#8230; the list goes on and on.</p>
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		<title>By: KoryO</title>
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		<dc:creator>KoryO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 14:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Put me down for a vote for getting mid-grade equipment instead of the cheap stuff (and that goes double for shoes....more in a bit).

Lots of cheap equipment is priced that way for a reason.  Namely, it&#039;s usually not that good.  Why get sabotaged by faulty workmanship when you start out?  Get the mid-grade stuff and give yourself a chance to find out if you really enjoy it or have a talent for the new activity.  At least if you find out you don&#039;t like it, you will have a decent chance of getting some of your money back on eBay or selling it to a friend who enjoys that stuff.  No one wants the cheap garbage.  

I&#039;m glad Trent did ok with his shoes, but starting out running with cheap shoes is begging for trouble.  Sure, you&#039;re going to save money at first.....until you count in the more-than-likely doctor appointment costs, the splints and wraps, the painkillers, possible time off work, etc.  Go to a running specialty store and get the right shoe for you and your foot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Put me down for a vote for getting mid-grade equipment instead of the cheap stuff (and that goes double for shoes&#8230;.more in a bit).</p>
<p>Lots of cheap equipment is priced that way for a reason.  Namely, it&#8217;s usually not that good.  Why get sabotaged by faulty workmanship when you start out?  Get the mid-grade stuff and give yourself a chance to find out if you really enjoy it or have a talent for the new activity.  At least if you find out you don&#8217;t like it, you will have a decent chance of getting some of your money back on eBay or selling it to a friend who enjoys that stuff.  No one wants the cheap garbage.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad Trent did ok with his shoes, but starting out running with cheap shoes is begging for trouble.  Sure, you&#8217;re going to save money at first&#8230;..until you count in the more-than-likely doctor appointment costs, the splints and wraps, the painkillers, possible time off work, etc.  Go to a running specialty store and get the right shoe for you and your foot.</p>
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		<title>By: Maggie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maggie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 13:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s what I recommend, and it&#039;s not a shoe: Hit up a specialty running store managed and run by runners. They&#039;ll look at your running and walking stride and fit you with proper shoes. However, if the pair you pick are too much, ask for a cheaper alternative. Better yet, visit Ebay, Craigslist, Overstock.com, Zappos, etc., even the website of the shoemaker, and see if the shoe is on sale. You&#039;re on your feet every day. Why sacrifice your health? Haven&#039;t you always said to invest in quality items that will last a while? Why not apply the same reasoning to that great pair of sneaks that you apply to purchasing new cooking gadgets? After all, did you truly believe or know you would love cooking that much?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s what I recommend, and it&#8217;s not a shoe: Hit up a specialty running store managed and run by runners. They&#8217;ll look at your running and walking stride and fit you with proper shoes. However, if the pair you pick are too much, ask for a cheaper alternative. Better yet, visit Ebay, Craigslist, Overstock.com, Zappos, etc., even the website of the shoemaker, and see if the shoe is on sale. You&#8217;re on your feet every day. Why sacrifice your health? Haven&#8217;t you always said to invest in quality items that will last a while? Why not apply the same reasoning to that great pair of sneaks that you apply to purchasing new cooking gadgets? After all, did you truly believe or know you would love cooking that much?</p>
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