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	<title>Comments on: Is An Emergency Fund a Psychological Negative?</title>
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		<title>By: Compulsive Hoarding</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2008/07/09/is-an-emergency-fund-a-psychological-negative/comment-page-2/#comment-585441</link>
		<dc:creator>Compulsive Hoarding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 01:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a lot of validity to that whole concept...it was an eye opener to me; I never looked at it from that perspective, but that does make sense. On the other hand, saving money may not always mean that you&#039;re anticipating bad things happening...you can save money in anticipation of a good opportunity coming your way (i.e., good real estate deal, investment, etc.). Excellent post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a lot of validity to that whole concept&#8230;it was an eye opener to me; I never looked at it from that perspective, but that does make sense. On the other hand, saving money may not always mean that you&#8217;re anticipating bad things happening&#8230;you can save money in anticipation of a good opportunity coming your way (i.e., good real estate deal, investment, etc.). Excellent post.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2008/07/09/is-an-emergency-fund-a-psychological-negative/comment-page-2/#comment-326088</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 16:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>During the dotcom bubble bursting, my wife and I were laid off within a week of each other.  At that time we rented, had no children and scarcely had an emergency fund.  Luckily she found a job in two weeks, so we had health benefits, and I did get unemployment and some severance (as did she).  But it also took me 7 months to find a new job.

Now, with two children and a mortgage, the stakes are much higher.  Add to that an economy that&#039;s in various stages of failing, rising fuel costs, grocery costs and so on, anyone living without an emergency fund is quite honestly waiting for financial disaster.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>During the dotcom bubble bursting, my wife and I were laid off within a week of each other.  At that time we rented, had no children and scarcely had an emergency fund.  Luckily she found a job in two weeks, so we had health benefits, and I did get unemployment and some severance (as did she).  But it also took me 7 months to find a new job.</p>
<p>Now, with two children and a mortgage, the stakes are much higher.  Add to that an economy that&#8217;s in various stages of failing, rising fuel costs, grocery costs and so on, anyone living without an emergency fund is quite honestly waiting for financial disaster.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2008/07/09/is-an-emergency-fund-a-psychological-negative/comment-page-2/#comment-325906</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 12:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love my emergency fund. I lost my job (it was seasonal and I expected it) but was unable to find another one. I built my emergency fund to supply exactly one more month than the &quot;off-season.&quot; I keep looking for work comfortable that I can survive until the season restarts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love my emergency fund. I lost my job (it was seasonal and I expected it) but was unable to find another one. I built my emergency fund to supply exactly one more month than the &#8220;off-season.&#8221; I keep looking for work comfortable that I can survive until the season restarts.</p>
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		<title>By: Cate</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2008/07/09/is-an-emergency-fund-a-psychological-negative/comment-page-2/#comment-325223</link>
		<dc:creator>Cate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 13:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s dangerous to judge an entire book based on one paragraph.  What I&#039;m reading in the comments are people judging the paragraph without knowing what comes in the prior 216 pages.  

This book isn&#039;t geared towards everyone.  This book is primarily geared towards the individual who has taken debting to an extreme, much like an alcoholic (and, it&#039;s based on the principles of a 12-step group - hence the spiritual concepts).  People living on those extremes (and I can say this, because I have been there, and charged the t-shirt) often need more than &quot;just suck it up and stop using your credit card&quot;.  That is what this book offers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s dangerous to judge an entire book based on one paragraph.  What I&#8217;m reading in the comments are people judging the paragraph without knowing what comes in the prior 216 pages.  </p>
<p>This book isn&#8217;t geared towards everyone.  This book is primarily geared towards the individual who has taken debting to an extreme, much like an alcoholic (and, it&#8217;s based on the principles of a 12-step group &#8211; hence the spiritual concepts).  People living on those extremes (and I can say this, because I have been there, and charged the t-shirt) often need more than &#8220;just suck it up and stop using your credit card&#8221;.  That is what this book offers.</p>
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		<title>By: Lenore</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2008/07/09/is-an-emergency-fund-a-psychological-negative/comment-page-2/#comment-324753</link>
		<dc:creator>Lenore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 00:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d rather be addicted to saving than spending.  If having an emergency fund makes you a catastrophist, does installing a smoke detector turn you into a pyromaniac?  I wish books like this and &quot;The Secret&quot; would get chucked into the bargain bin.  It&#039;s tempting to believe that our thoughts alone can affect anything outside of ourselves, but in truth it is only through action (including communication) that we impact other living things and the rest of the universe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d rather be addicted to saving than spending.  If having an emergency fund makes you a catastrophist, does installing a smoke detector turn you into a pyromaniac?  I wish books like this and &#8220;The Secret&#8221; would get chucked into the bargain bin.  It&#8217;s tempting to believe that our thoughts alone can affect anything outside of ourselves, but in truth it is only through action (including communication) that we impact other living things and the rest of the universe.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2008/07/09/is-an-emergency-fund-a-psychological-negative/comment-page-2/#comment-324730</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 23:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that Mr. Mundis was probably referring to hoarding for hoarding&#039;s sake.  Hording is partly a psychological thing, and is loosely linked with addictive behavior - hence his subtitle of the book referring to Debtors Anonymous.  I&#039;m with you regarding most people save for the same reasons you do.  Most people won&#039;t have wierd saving issues because most people most people don&#039;t have the psychological issues that might be in the background of his book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that Mr. Mundis was probably referring to hoarding for hoarding&#8217;s sake.  Hording is partly a psychological thing, and is loosely linked with addictive behavior &#8211; hence his subtitle of the book referring to Debtors Anonymous.  I&#8217;m with you regarding most people save for the same reasons you do.  Most people won&#8217;t have wierd saving issues because most people most people don&#8217;t have the psychological issues that might be in the background of his book.</p>
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		<title>By: Kurt</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2008/07/09/is-an-emergency-fund-a-psychological-negative/comment-page-2/#comment-324631</link>
		<dc:creator>Kurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 21:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Then everyone driving a car with a spare tire must also have a catastrophe mentality. Or perhaps it is because we are just prudent and wish to have the flexibility and options to deal with events (money  can be used to buy options, time, flexibility, etc.) in a way that will ultimately cause us less stress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then everyone driving a car with a spare tire must also have a catastrophe mentality. Or perhaps it is because we are just prudent and wish to have the flexibility and options to deal with events (money  can be used to buy options, time, flexibility, etc.) in a way that will ultimately cause us less stress.</p>
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		<title>By: Carmen</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2008/07/09/is-an-emergency-fund-a-psychological-negative/comment-page-2/#comment-324618</link>
		<dc:creator>Carmen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 20:55:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trent,

When calculating how much of one&#039;s &#039;earnings&#039; one spends, I&#039;m sure most people assume this is in relation to income, and not changes in asset values (i.e. net worth). Although I can see a grey area potentially.

So I had assumed you meant that you spent less than your family earnt on a &#039;monthly&#039; basis, not that you would incorporate how much your house value had risen or goodwill from TSD for instance in this calculation. The reason, as you found out, (&quot;figuring my net worth wrong&quot;) is because most of this data is firstly subjective in nature, plus it could also be more volatile. 

Additionally a net worth figure could seriously lull one into a false sense of achievement. But perhaps not in the current economic climate and predominantly falling asset values!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trent,</p>
<p>When calculating how much of one&#8217;s &#8216;earnings&#8217; one spends, I&#8217;m sure most people assume this is in relation to income, and not changes in asset values (i.e. net worth). Although I can see a grey area potentially.</p>
<p>So I had assumed you meant that you spent less than your family earnt on a &#8216;monthly&#8217; basis, not that you would incorporate how much your house value had risen or goodwill from TSD for instance in this calculation. The reason, as you found out, (&#8221;figuring my net worth wrong&#8221;) is because most of this data is firstly subjective in nature, plus it could also be more volatile. </p>
<p>Additionally a net worth figure could seriously lull one into a false sense of achievement. But perhaps not in the current economic climate and predominantly falling asset values!</p>
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		<title>By: Sharon</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2008/07/09/is-an-emergency-fund-a-psychological-negative/comment-page-2/#comment-324490</link>
		<dc:creator>Sharon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 18:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Before you blithely tell people to cancel life insurance policies, you need to know if that person CAN get another. Many of us become uninsurable, and anyone who does not think it through and decides to quit &quot;throwing good money after bad&quot; and cancels can end up with NO life insurance. 

Someone who has had a universal life policy for decades may be in for a rude surprise when they go to cancel and get term.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before you blithely tell people to cancel life insurance policies, you need to know if that person CAN get another. Many of us become uninsurable, and anyone who does not think it through and decides to quit &#8220;throwing good money after bad&#8221; and cancels can end up with NO life insurance. </p>
<p>Someone who has had a universal life policy for decades may be in for a rude surprise when they go to cancel and get term.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe @ Simple Debt-Free Finance</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2008/07/09/is-an-emergency-fund-a-psychological-negative/comment-page-2/#comment-324448</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe @ Simple Debt-Free Finance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 17:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If  &quot;What Mundis is actually talking about is the hoarding mentality.&quot; then perhaps he should have called it &quot; the hoarding mentality&quot; instead of saying saving for emergencies  is a bad idea. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If  &#8220;What Mundis is actually talking about is the hoarding mentality.&#8221; then perhaps he should have called it &#8221; the hoarding mentality&#8221; instead of saying saving for emergencies  is a bad idea. ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: MakingChanges</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2008/07/09/is-an-emergency-fund-a-psychological-negative/comment-page-2/#comment-324386</link>
		<dc:creator>MakingChanges</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 15:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the man is reaching on the definition of hoarding. Hoarding is simply stashing away out of fear or compulsion. An emergency fund is a tool to regulate ones finances and allow for plannign and execution of strategies. One is nothing like the other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the man is reaching on the definition of hoarding. Hoarding is simply stashing away out of fear or compulsion. An emergency fund is a tool to regulate ones finances and allow for plannign and execution of strategies. One is nothing like the other.</p>
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		<title>By: almost there</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2008/07/09/is-an-emergency-fund-a-psychological-negative/comment-page-1/#comment-324377</link>
		<dc:creator>almost there</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 15:48:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@getagrip, I would normally wholeheartedly agree with you.  I had the universal life insurance that you described and dropped it after a few years due to the very reasons you stated. (the agent got $50 per policy (3) per year commission until policies paid out. Also huge surrender fees Like AL Williams used to recommend I went with term and invested the diff.  However, I have a 330K policy on me, worth $335k DB now, cash value (payout) over $54K and Tax basis (what I paid $32.5k).  I took it out instead of paying 6.5% of retirement pay towards survivor benefit that would have paid 35% of what I was receiving at death.  I figure that if I pay it off, the tax basis (what it cost me) would be $60.7K.  In 20 years it would be worth well over $400K and if I survived my wife I could cash it out.  If I expire she can draw 5.4% interest off it for 30 years before taking the value of policy.
   I took out a $250K policy on my son that is worth $250.8K now, cash value (surrender) $10K and tax basis $8.4k.  If I paid $8.6K to pay it off It would cost me (tax basis) $17K total.  Being that he is 20 now it should grow to quite a bit by his old age.  Over 7.4% crediting rate on invested premiums now.  I would save over the next 20 years by paying off early another $20,000.  This is not a scam. Ins Co: Navy Mutual Aid Association.  Compared to regular Universal Life policies this is almost too good to be true.  My Bank USAA wanted to interest me in their term and Univ policies but being a for profit compay they couldn&#039;t even come close to what I get for my premiums. Army and Air force Mutual Aid has similar policies as NMAA that covers the 5 sea services.  (No-they are not government subsidized).  Hope the above clarified things.  Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@getagrip, I would normally wholeheartedly agree with you.  I had the universal life insurance that you described and dropped it after a few years due to the very reasons you stated. (the agent got $50 per policy (3) per year commission until policies paid out. Also huge surrender fees Like AL Williams used to recommend I went with term and invested the diff.  However, I have a 330K policy on me, worth $335k DB now, cash value (payout) over $54K and Tax basis (what I paid $32.5k).  I took it out instead of paying 6.5% of retirement pay towards survivor benefit that would have paid 35% of what I was receiving at death.  I figure that if I pay it off, the tax basis (what it cost me) would be $60.7K.  In 20 years it would be worth well over $400K and if I survived my wife I could cash it out.  If I expire she can draw 5.4% interest off it for 30 years before taking the value of policy.<br />
   I took out a $250K policy on my son that is worth $250.8K now, cash value (surrender) $10K and tax basis $8.4k.  If I paid $8.6K to pay it off It would cost me (tax basis) $17K total.  Being that he is 20 now it should grow to quite a bit by his old age.  Over 7.4% crediting rate on invested premiums now.  I would save over the next 20 years by paying off early another $20,000.  This is not a scam. Ins Co: Navy Mutual Aid Association.  Compared to regular Universal Life policies this is almost too good to be true.  My Bank USAA wanted to interest me in their term and Univ policies but being a for profit compay they couldn&#8217;t even come close to what I get for my premiums. Army and Air force Mutual Aid has similar policies as NMAA that covers the 5 sea services.  (No-they are not government subsidized).  Hope the above clarified things.  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: HebsFarm</title>
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		<dc:creator>HebsFarm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 15:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We did a really creative thing with our emergency fund:  we loaned it to our church.  They used it to reduce interest payments on a construction loan by paying down principal, and we get to request that money back at any time.  If I had kept that money in my own account, it would have been spent long ago because I would have PERCEIVED some problem as an &quot;emergency.&quot;  Yet, I have the peace of mind from knowing that any time our family would have a TRUE emergency, we could access that money.  It&#039;s pretty unconvential, but it works for us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We did a really creative thing with our emergency fund:  we loaned it to our church.  They used it to reduce interest payments on a construction loan by paying down principal, and we get to request that money back at any time.  If I had kept that money in my own account, it would have been spent long ago because I would have PERCEIVED some problem as an &#8220;emergency.&#8221;  Yet, I have the peace of mind from knowing that any time our family would have a TRUE emergency, we could access that money.  It&#8217;s pretty unconvential, but it works for us.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 15:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having an emergency fund no more invites emergency than wearing a helmet invites a motorcycle crash. 

I too think Trent is closer to the mark than Mr. Mundis. To save excessively while fretting about myriad looming disasters simply isn&#039;t a healthy psychological state. The hoarded money is a symptom, but not the problem.

Common sense and my own experience tell me that a moderate buffer against the unforeseen is immensely beneficial to someone’s overall wellbeing. Rather than “build a poverty mentality” it allows you to feel some control over your destiny and not feel so blown about by the inevitable ebbing and flowing of luck and circumstance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having an emergency fund no more invites emergency than wearing a helmet invites a motorcycle crash. </p>
<p>I too think Trent is closer to the mark than Mr. Mundis. To save excessively while fretting about myriad looming disasters simply isn&#8217;t a healthy psychological state. The hoarded money is a symptom, but not the problem.</p>
<p>Common sense and my own experience tell me that a moderate buffer against the unforeseen is immensely beneficial to someone’s overall wellbeing. Rather than “build a poverty mentality” it allows you to feel some control over your destiny and not feel so blown about by the inevitable ebbing and flowing of luck and circumstance.</p>
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		<title>By: Little Miss Moneybags</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2008/07/09/is-an-emergency-fund-a-psychological-negative/comment-page-1/#comment-324357</link>
		<dc:creator>Little Miss Moneybags</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 15:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anything can be taken to extremes. I think it&#039;s important to have a savings cushion--I need to be able to pay rent, buy food, and survive if I got laid off. However, keeping more than a few months&#039; worth of savings in low-return investment options &quot;just in case&quot; is just as foolish as keeping nothing in savings. If I were really unable to bring in income for longer than a few months, I&#039;d need to investigate other living options--moving in with family or friends, getting disability payments or something like that. I might as well invest any money saved past those few months and start building a nest egg for the future and/or upping my standard of living now. 

You could also look at the argument from a disaster-preparedness standpoint. The person who doesn&#039;t even have a fire extinguisher in their apartment is just as foolish as the one who builds a bunker in their backyard and stocks it with a decade worth of MRE. Both are refusing to live in reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anything can be taken to extremes. I think it&#8217;s important to have a savings cushion&#8211;I need to be able to pay rent, buy food, and survive if I got laid off. However, keeping more than a few months&#8217; worth of savings in low-return investment options &#8220;just in case&#8221; is just as foolish as keeping nothing in savings. If I were really unable to bring in income for longer than a few months, I&#8217;d need to investigate other living options&#8211;moving in with family or friends, getting disability payments or something like that. I might as well invest any money saved past those few months and start building a nest egg for the future and/or upping my standard of living now. </p>
<p>You could also look at the argument from a disaster-preparedness standpoint. The person who doesn&#8217;t even have a fire extinguisher in their apartment is just as foolish as the one who builds a bunker in their backyard and stocks it with a decade worth of MRE. Both are refusing to live in reality.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Farquhar</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2008/07/09/is-an-emergency-fund-a-psychological-negative/comment-page-1/#comment-324346</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Farquhar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 14:58:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Mr. Mundis is treading dangerous ground here. I can see possible negative effects from hoarding an emergency fund, but a reasonable emergency fund is absolutely necessary, and I would argue that a too-large emergency fund is much better than none at all.

I had a bad day on Sunday and ended up dipping into my fund to the tune of $180. I&#039;m not complaining about the $180 because it could have been much, much worse. 

First, we had a flat tire while traveling, which ended up only costing us time, but if we&#039;d had to have the car towed and then replace two tires because the flat couldn&#039;t be repaired (and you&#039;re supposed to replace tires in pairs), that could have cost $500 or more.

Second, we came home to a dead air conditioner. That ended up costing $180 to fix. If it had been beyond repair, it would have cost more like $2,000 to replace.

Knowing that I could write a couple of checks to cover the worst case scenario if necessary made that day a whole lot less stressful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Mr. Mundis is treading dangerous ground here. I can see possible negative effects from hoarding an emergency fund, but a reasonable emergency fund is absolutely necessary, and I would argue that a too-large emergency fund is much better than none at all.</p>
<p>I had a bad day on Sunday and ended up dipping into my fund to the tune of $180. I&#8217;m not complaining about the $180 because it could have been much, much worse. </p>
<p>First, we had a flat tire while traveling, which ended up only costing us time, but if we&#8217;d had to have the car towed and then replace two tires because the flat couldn&#8217;t be repaired (and you&#8217;re supposed to replace tires in pairs), that could have cost $500 or more.</p>
<p>Second, we came home to a dead air conditioner. That ended up costing $180 to fix. If it had been beyond repair, it would have cost more like $2,000 to replace.</p>
<p>Knowing that I could write a couple of checks to cover the worst case scenario if necessary made that day a whole lot less stressful.</p>
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		<title>By: luvleftovers</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2008/07/09/is-an-emergency-fund-a-psychological-negative/comment-page-1/#comment-324338</link>
		<dc:creator>luvleftovers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 14:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a differenct between saving and hoarding.  I hope the author meant that hoarding is a bad thing.

Speaking from experience - several times over - not having an emergency fund is outright stupid!  I was unemployed and uninsured for over a year.  I had nothing in the bank to speak of.  Halfway through, I needed $1200 worth of emergency dental work.  The Dr. wouldn&#039;t touch me until I gave him every dime. My parents lent me the money.

That was only one instance in that 13 months.  I&#039;m probably still paying off the debts that I had to put on a credit card to survive that period of time.

Now I have about 4 months of living expenses and am paying down debt.  I may put a little more away, but I think this will be enough to prevent a similar disaster.  I don&#039;t ever want to go through that again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a differenct between saving and hoarding.  I hope the author meant that hoarding is a bad thing.</p>
<p>Speaking from experience &#8211; several times over &#8211; not having an emergency fund is outright stupid!  I was unemployed and uninsured for over a year.  I had nothing in the bank to speak of.  Halfway through, I needed $1200 worth of emergency dental work.  The Dr. wouldn&#8217;t touch me until I gave him every dime. My parents lent me the money.</p>
<p>That was only one instance in that 13 months.  I&#8217;m probably still paying off the debts that I had to put on a credit card to survive that period of time.</p>
<p>Now I have about 4 months of living expenses and am paying down debt.  I may put a little more away, but I think this will be enough to prevent a similar disaster.  I don&#8217;t ever want to go through that again!</p>
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		<title>By: Jessica</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2008/07/09/is-an-emergency-fund-a-psychological-negative/comment-page-1/#comment-324331</link>
		<dc:creator>Jessica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 14:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To a certain extent this does feel like me.  I feel very good having a pocket of emergency money, but I do feel that I will never have enough.  It&#039;s not that I feel that the impending doom grows in correlation to how much money I have saved, but growing up in financially challenged household has left me with the impression that there will always be money problems.

We live well below our income right now, have our emergency fund, and other fairly liquid investments.  We have been saving for a house down payment and now that we are closing in on having accrued the minimum amount we decided we would need before we started the real mortgage approval/house hunting process I worry that we need to save just a little bit more.  Just a bit more for house stuff, just a bit more for the emergency fund, just a bit for into the mutual fund, etc.  It&#039;s not that I have trouble spending money, but I do fear that I will never have a big enough cushion for all the things that could come my way.

Interestingly I do also have some physical hoarding issues.  I hold on to things far past their usefulness, especially if I can attach a memory to them.  I lost a great deal of my possessions in a house flood when I was 15, and I know this has something to do with it.  I&#039;m working on trying to adjust how I think about things though, and am hoping to be making a big Goodwill donation soon. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To a certain extent this does feel like me.  I feel very good having a pocket of emergency money, but I do feel that I will never have enough.  It&#8217;s not that I feel that the impending doom grows in correlation to how much money I have saved, but growing up in financially challenged household has left me with the impression that there will always be money problems.</p>
<p>We live well below our income right now, have our emergency fund, and other fairly liquid investments.  We have been saving for a house down payment and now that we are closing in on having accrued the minimum amount we decided we would need before we started the real mortgage approval/house hunting process I worry that we need to save just a little bit more.  Just a bit more for house stuff, just a bit more for the emergency fund, just a bit for into the mutual fund, etc.  It&#8217;s not that I have trouble spending money, but I do fear that I will never have a big enough cushion for all the things that could come my way.</p>
<p>Interestingly I do also have some physical hoarding issues.  I hold on to things far past their usefulness, especially if I can attach a memory to them.  I lost a great deal of my possessions in a house flood when I was 15, and I know this has something to do with it.  I&#8217;m working on trying to adjust how I think about things though, and am hoping to be making a big Goodwill donation soon. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Danielle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danielle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 14:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read this Mundis book as well and largely agree with the content of the blog post.  I do think that Mundis&#039; issue with the &quot;Emergency Fund&quot; does go back to the concept of hoarding.  If you read the book he&#039;s certainly NOT advocating having no savings (to the contrary he&#039;s a big advocate of building assets) but he does want people to break the mentality of always being in &quot;doomsday&quot; mode.  His premise is that if you&#039;re always planning for doomsday, it can become self-fulfilling prophecy because somewhere in the back of your mind you&#039;re planning to fail along the way.  His book is much more about conscious, positive planning.

I found 95% of the content in the book pretty darn interesting and reasonable and would recommend the book.  As a personal finance educator, myself, I even modified some of his ideas and applied to my own finances.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read this Mundis book as well and largely agree with the content of the blog post.  I do think that Mundis&#8217; issue with the &#8220;Emergency Fund&#8221; does go back to the concept of hoarding.  If you read the book he&#8217;s certainly NOT advocating having no savings (to the contrary he&#8217;s a big advocate of building assets) but he does want people to break the mentality of always being in &#8220;doomsday&#8221; mode.  His premise is that if you&#8217;re always planning for doomsday, it can become self-fulfilling prophecy because somewhere in the back of your mind you&#8217;re planning to fail along the way.  His book is much more about conscious, positive planning.</p>
<p>I found 95% of the content in the book pretty darn interesting and reasonable and would recommend the book.  As a personal finance educator, myself, I even modified some of his ideas and applied to my own finances.</p>
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		<title>By: Ocean Skater</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2008/07/09/is-an-emergency-fund-a-psychological-negative/comment-page-1/#comment-324297</link>
		<dc:creator>Ocean Skater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 13:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting!  My &quot;emergency fund&quot; is basically unnecessary now that I have a spending plan.  Instead, it has become part of my regular savings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting!  My &#8220;emergency fund&#8221; is basically unnecessary now that I have a spending plan.  Instead, it has become part of my regular savings.</p>
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