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	<title>Comments on: The Frugal Whole Chicken (or, Waste Not, Want Not)</title>
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		<title>By: Diane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 01:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I followed your idea but I thought it seemed a waste to strain and throw out all the stuff that made the broth, so I salvaged as much of the meat, celery and onions as I reasonably could (the bones had come apart so much it was a little difficult) and then used that in a pasta sauce.

By the way, when I served the wings and legs for dinner, the compliment I received was that it was the tastiest chicken ever. It really is better tasting than the boneless, skinless stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I followed your idea but I thought it seemed a waste to strain and throw out all the stuff that made the broth, so I salvaged as much of the meat, celery and onions as I reasonably could (the bones had come apart so much it was a little difficult) and then used that in a pasta sauce.</p>
<p>By the way, when I served the wings and legs for dinner, the compliment I received was that it was the tastiest chicken ever. It really is better tasting than the boneless, skinless stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: RabdZGood</title>
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		<dc:creator>RabdZGood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 16:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I pressure cook just the the carcass and gizzard after picking the meat.  I don&#039;t care for the flavor of cooking the liver with it.  



Add a couple of bay leaves to flavor the broth, cover the bones with water.



I started to write the details of how to but here is an excellent article instead:

http://gagainthekitchen.blogspot.com/2009/01/pressure-cooker-chicken-stock.html



The above suggestion of using veggie trimmings instead of vegetables is a great idea as long as they are clean. Heat diminishes the flavor of salt so for the sake of lower sodium I never include it when making broth.

The broth seems to freeze better with the fat on it and since I feed the bones to my dogs and cats the fat is a treat for them at a later time when I use the broth.

My pressure cooker is not only a time saver but saves energy as well since it still cooks after the stove is turned off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I pressure cook just the the carcass and gizzard after picking the meat.  I don&#8217;t care for the flavor of cooking the liver with it.  </p>
<p>Add a couple of bay leaves to flavor the broth, cover the bones with water.</p>
<p>I started to write the details of how to but here is an excellent article instead:</p>
<p><a href="http://gagainthekitchen.blogspot.com/2009/01/pressure-cooker-chicken-stock.html" rel="nofollow">http://gagainthekitchen.blogspot.com/2009/01/pressure-cooker-chicken-stock.html</a></p>
<p>The above suggestion of using veggie trimmings instead of vegetables is a great idea as long as they are clean. Heat diminishes the flavor of salt so for the sake of lower sodium I never include it when making broth.</p>
<p>The broth seems to freeze better with the fat on it and since I feed the bones to my dogs and cats the fat is a treat for them at a later time when I use the broth.</p>
<p>My pressure cooker is not only a time saver but saves energy as well since it still cooks after the stove is turned off.</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 04:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ #103 hg @ 12:32 am August 27th, 2008

I bought a rotisseried chicken at the grocery store yesterday for $7.50. I picked out every drop of edible meat and weighed it - it yielded exactly 1 pound of meat - the rest was all skin, fat and bone (which will go into stock, then be strained out for dog food). That is very little actual meat.&quot;

Yes, and that is why it is much more economical to buy 7-8 lb roaster chickens as opposed to 3 lb fryer chickens. It seem sot me that there is a big difference in the ratio of muscle to bone between the two sized of chickens sold for cooking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ #103 hg @ 12:32 am August 27th, 2008</p>
<p>I bought a rotisseried chicken at the grocery store yesterday for $7.50. I picked out every drop of edible meat and weighed it &#8211; it yielded exactly 1 pound of meat &#8211; the rest was all skin, fat and bone (which will go into stock, then be strained out for dog food). That is very little actual meat.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, and that is why it is much more economical to buy 7-8 lb roaster chickens as opposed to 3 lb fryer chickens. It seem sot me that there is a big difference in the ratio of muscle to bone between the two sized of chickens sold for cooking.</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 04:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ chef tell and the earlier poster who wrote, &quot;

&quot;Simmering the chicken for “all day” or “4 hours minimum” is not what i consider frugal use of power,and it’s really not necessary to make a good pot of soup or broth. 1 hour is plenty.&quot;

This is incorrect.  It take at least four hours to get the cartilage to gelatinize out of the bones and joints.

If you&#039;ve been doing it for only an hour for your whole life, you&#039;ve been missing out on an important aspect of stock. 

This doesn&#039;t take a lot of energy when you use a covered pot and have the heat on low--a simmer is anywhere from 180-190F, not boiling.

And such a stock is not &quot;reduced&quot; at all--it is simmered with the pan cover on and hence little moisture escapes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ chef tell and the earlier poster who wrote, &#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Simmering the chicken for “all day” or “4 hours minimum” is not what i consider frugal use of power,and it’s really not necessary to make a good pot of soup or broth. 1 hour is plenty.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is incorrect.  It take at least four hours to get the cartilage to gelatinize out of the bones and joints.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;ve been doing it for only an hour for your whole life, you&#8217;ve been missing out on an important aspect of stock. </p>
<p>This doesn&#8217;t take a lot of energy when you use a covered pot and have the heat on low&#8211;a simmer is anywhere from 180-190F, not boiling.</p>
<p>And such a stock is not &#8220;reduced&#8221; at all&#8211;it is simmered with the pan cover on and hence little moisture escapes.</p>
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		<title>By: abc</title>
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		<dc:creator>abc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 18:20:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice! Except, I dunno what kind of family you have but one small chicken and a cup or two of vegetables would NOT feed my family for TWO meals! Maybe one but definitely not two... and DEFINITELY DEFINITELY not two AND with enough leftover chicken meat to make a stir fry or chicken tacos or something. So I think you&#039;re exaggerating how much money you can save...

Beer can chicken is delicious, by the way! I endorse it :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice! Except, I dunno what kind of family you have but one small chicken and a cup or two of vegetables would NOT feed my family for TWO meals! Maybe one but definitely not two&#8230; and DEFINITELY DEFINITELY not two AND with enough leftover chicken meat to make a stir fry or chicken tacos or something. So I think you&#8217;re exaggerating how much money you can save&#8230;</p>
<p>Beer can chicken is delicious, by the way! I endorse it :)</p>
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		<title>By: Kitty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 16:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use the &quot;stock&quot; method all the time. But, I leave out the chickie, as I&#039;m a vegetarian. I, too, save the carrot tops, etc. to make a stunning, peppery vegetable broth. I then cook dried beans it in. The imparted flavor would make even a carnivore love dried beans!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use the &#8220;stock&#8221; method all the time. But, I leave out the chickie, as I&#8217;m a vegetarian. I, too, save the carrot tops, etc. to make a stunning, peppery vegetable broth. I then cook dried beans it in. The imparted flavor would make even a carnivore love dried beans!!!</p>
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		<title>By: jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 17:25:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow this will be very helpful when I get those low paychecks ha.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow this will be very helpful when I get those low paychecks ha.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 18:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I really wanted to find out from reading this was what the weight of the bones in a whole chicken weighed. Do the bones/skin/waste pieces make up 1/3rd of the weigh or closer to 1/2?

The article began with a idea... &quot;is it better to buy a whole fryer or skinless boneless breast&quot;. So the question i have is what is the weight of the bones and skin. 

Sure I make broth with my waste parts. But organic chicken broth can be purchase too. When calculating the total costs of each you need the facts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I really wanted to find out from reading this was what the weight of the bones in a whole chicken weighed. Do the bones/skin/waste pieces make up 1/3rd of the weigh or closer to 1/2?</p>
<p>The article began with a idea&#8230; &#8220;is it better to buy a whole fryer or skinless boneless breast&#8221;. So the question i have is what is the weight of the bones and skin. </p>
<p>Sure I make broth with my waste parts. But organic chicken broth can be purchase too. When calculating the total costs of each you need the facts.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Howes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick Howes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 12:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course, there&#039;s also the book &quot;Make Your Own Dinosaur Out of Chicken Bones: Foolproof Instructions for Budding Paleontologists&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, there&#8217;s also the book &#8220;Make Your Own Dinosaur Out of Chicken Bones: Foolproof Instructions for Budding Paleontologists&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:42:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Definitely check out youtube if you want to learn how to bone a chicken yourself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHUvnsQgvCQ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Definitely check out youtube if you want to learn how to bone a chicken yourself.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHUvnsQgvCQ" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHUvnsQgvCQ</a></p>
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		<title>By: hg</title>
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		<dc:creator>hg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 06:32:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bought a rotisseried chicken at the grocery store yesterday for $7.50. I picked out every drop of edible meat and weighed it - it yielded exactly 1 pound of meat - the rest was all skin, fat and bone (which will go into stock, then be strained out for dog food). That is very little actual meat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bought a rotisseried chicken at the grocery store yesterday for $7.50. I picked out every drop of edible meat and weighed it &#8211; it yielded exactly 1 pound of meat &#8211; the rest was all skin, fat and bone (which will go into stock, then be strained out for dog food). That is very little actual meat.</p>
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		<title>By: June</title>
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		<dc:creator>June</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 20:40:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very helpful post.  We are actually raising our own chickens.  It is a first for me and my husband.  We bought day-old chicks so we could raise them for eggs.  We bought more than we needed so we could eat a few of them, and also as they are growing we are discovering a few of our &#039;girls&#039; are maturing differently than we expected (we have a few unexpected boys i the mix). 

They are smaller than the birds you buy at the store, but they still make an excelent broth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very helpful post.  We are actually raising our own chickens.  It is a first for me and my husband.  We bought day-old chicks so we could raise them for eggs.  We bought more than we needed so we could eat a few of them, and also as they are growing we are discovering a few of our &#8216;girls&#8217; are maturing differently than we expected (we have a few unexpected boys i the mix). </p>
<p>They are smaller than the birds you buy at the store, but they still make an excelent broth.</p>
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		<title>By: Fermat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fermat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:16:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been making beer can chicken since the early 80&#039;s. If you want to take it to another level try dry brining it. Rub the chicken down first with crushed garlic and your selected assortment of herbs. Now comes the important part, so take a deep breath, here we go. Cover the chicken with kosher salt. Literally cover it. It has to look like a salt lick. Now let it sit for an hour or so in the fridge. Next, and this is important, rinse off the salt. Twice. Pat it dry and cook as before. You&#039;ll find that the salt has penetrated the chicken and taken the garlic and herbs with it so that every bite will be seasoned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been making beer can chicken since the early 80&#8217;s. If you want to take it to another level try dry brining it. Rub the chicken down first with crushed garlic and your selected assortment of herbs. Now comes the important part, so take a deep breath, here we go. Cover the chicken with kosher salt. Literally cover it. It has to look like a salt lick. Now let it sit for an hour or so in the fridge. Next, and this is important, rinse off the salt. Twice. Pat it dry and cook as before. You&#8217;ll find that the salt has penetrated the chicken and taken the garlic and herbs with it so that every bite will be seasoned.</p>
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		<title>By: JP</title>
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		<dc:creator>JP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 06:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Taking a cue from my Italian friends, I roast the bones in the oven at 200 degrees for an hour before putting them in water to make broth. 
It makes the broth.
There&#039;s no need to include the meat left over in the broth; its a waste.
Don&#039;t forget the garlic.
Great post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Taking a cue from my Italian friends, I roast the bones in the oven at 200 degrees for an hour before putting them in water to make broth.<br />
It makes the broth.<br />
There&#8217;s no need to include the meat left over in the broth; its a waste.<br />
Don&#8217;t forget the garlic.<br />
Great post.</p>
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		<title>By: murphyslawyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>murphyslawyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 04:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Macinac - I never had a problem with the can burning or the paint. It&#039;s fairly well insulated being inside the bird and having liquid inside it.

Do your research though, what&#039;s good enough for me may not be for you. Google &quot;beer butt chicken&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Macinac &#8211; I never had a problem with the can burning or the paint. It&#8217;s fairly well insulated being inside the bird and having liquid inside it.</p>
<p>Do your research though, what&#8217;s good enough for me may not be for you. Google &#8220;beer butt chicken&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: PG</title>
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		<dc:creator>PG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 04:13:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t forget tanduri chicken whole! Incredibly easy to make.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t forget tanduri chicken whole! Incredibly easy to make.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 02:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again with the washing.... USDA says NOT to wash as properly cooking will kill any bugs.  http://www.fsis.usda.gov/factsheets/chicken_food_safety_focus/index.asp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again with the washing&#8230;. USDA says NOT to wash as properly cooking will kill any bugs.  <a href="http://www.fsis.usda.gov/factsheets/chicken_food_safety_focus/index.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.fsis.usda.gov/factsheets/chicken_food_safety_focus/index.asp</a></p>
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		<title>By: Chui</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chui</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 01:41:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a video of the Chinese way of boning chicken.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHYflYe0cpY&amp;feature=related</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a video of the Chinese way of boning chicken.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHYflYe0cpY&amp;feature=related" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHYflYe0cpY&amp;feature=related</a></p>
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		<title>By: Amy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 00:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are great visual instructions online for how to cut up a raw whole chicken into parts, how to bone those parts, and how to carve a cooked chicken.  It&#039;s actually kind of fun to cut up the whole raw chicken.  Great stress reliever.  Make sure you have a really good, really sharp knife.

Re: leftover veg - whenever we have leftover veggies at dinner (corn, peas, carrots, green beans, lima beans, even Northern beans, black beans or chick peas... etc.), I put them in a big tupperware container in the freezer.  When the container gets full, I&#039;ll use some leftover meat (chicken, but beef is great), some broth, and a can or two of diced tomatoes (juice and all) to make vegetable soup.  Add some barley to make it even more filling, and barley is CHEAP.  

Amy @ http://prettybabies.blogspot.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are great visual instructions online for how to cut up a raw whole chicken into parts, how to bone those parts, and how to carve a cooked chicken.  It&#8217;s actually kind of fun to cut up the whole raw chicken.  Great stress reliever.  Make sure you have a really good, really sharp knife.</p>
<p>Re: leftover veg &#8211; whenever we have leftover veggies at dinner (corn, peas, carrots, green beans, lima beans, even Northern beans, black beans or chick peas&#8230; etc.), I put them in a big tupperware container in the freezer.  When the container gets full, I&#8217;ll use some leftover meat (chicken, but beef is great), some broth, and a can or two of diced tomatoes (juice and all) to make vegetable soup.  Add some barley to make it even more filling, and barley is CHEAP.  </p>
<p>Amy @ <a href="http://prettybabies.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://prettybabies.blogspot.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: chef tell</title>
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		<dc:creator>chef tell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 23:28:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simmering stock for about an hour is all you need to get the tasty goodness out of the chicken bones etc.Same with the veggies etc.

However if you want to cook it gently for 4 hours plus, what you get (assuming you leave it uncovered at least partially) is a Reduced stock, which is more concentrated and with deeper flavors, which I&#039;m sure is what the writer meant.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simmering stock for about an hour is all you need to get the tasty goodness out of the chicken bones etc.Same with the veggies etc.</p>
<p>However if you want to cook it gently for 4 hours plus, what you get (assuming you leave it uncovered at least partially) is a Reduced stock, which is more concentrated and with deeper flavors, which I&#8217;m sure is what the writer meant.<br />
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