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		<title>By: Aggie</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2008/09/26/looking-at-your-career-as-an-investment/comment-page-1/#comment-389650</link>
		<dc:creator>Aggie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 02:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2008/04/07/miller

Trent-
you have talked before about college education not being a great investment and I read this interesting article on how college is *not* worth a million dollars in the lifetime of a graduate.

I think there is some middle way about it, because now that I have a real career, I cherish it very much.  It has been a wonderful investment and has given me freedom I never had before.  Without my education, I wouldn&#039;t have a worthwhile career.  I&#039;d love to see you do more investigating on this idea.

-Aggie</description>
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<p>Trent-<br />
you have talked before about college education not being a great investment and I read this interesting article on how college is *not* worth a million dollars in the lifetime of a graduate.</p>
<p>I think there is some middle way about it, because now that I have a real career, I cherish it very much.  It has been a wonderful investment and has given me freedom I never had before.  Without my education, I wouldn&#8217;t have a worthwhile career.  I&#8217;d love to see you do more investigating on this idea.</p>
<p>-Aggie</p>
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		<title>By: GettingThere</title>
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		<dc:creator>GettingThere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 16:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK -- I&#039;m going to be the pig at the party. Yes, this is an interesting post with some good ideas. At the same time, it was clear to me that this was written by a young man early in his career, intent on &quot;getting it right.&quot;

This whole post just seemed sort of grim and grinding. My advice from a few years farther down the road -- lighten up a little. Money is about security; life is about relationships. It&#039;s a mistake to focus so hard on the former that you sacrifice the latter.

When I went to college, my father told me that 75% of my education would come from my classmates, and he was right. I didn&#039;t join clubs to get ahead; I joined clubs that interested me. I didn&#039;t make connections with everyone; I formed deep and lasting relationships with a smaller group of diverse people with whom I&#039;ve continued to share my life.

In my work, the joy has come partially from successful outcomes, but far more from being part of a good community of people who care about one another. A consulting firm I worked for still has reunions, some 15 years after the firm folded, and they&#039;re always packed. Why? Because we liked each other then and we like each other now. Nobody remembers whether I gave home run presentations; they remember that I&#039;m reasonably bright; good to work with and fun to have around. 

There is a minimum threshold of performance -- once you&#039;re known to be &quot;good at your job&quot; it is relationships that make the rest of the difference. It&#039;s also relationships which make the worth fun or, when they go wrong, awful.

Life is going to toss everything upside down more than once in your life. It&#039;s OK. You&#039;ll survive. Be agile, be open and know that as long as you&#039;ve got folks who care about you, you&#039;re the only sort of success that matters.

Yes, you should work hard. Yes, you should consider your work an investment and search out the highest ROI. Just remember that the most valuable return isn&#039;t always about money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK &#8212; I&#8217;m going to be the pig at the party. Yes, this is an interesting post with some good ideas. At the same time, it was clear to me that this was written by a young man early in his career, intent on &#8220;getting it right.&#8221;</p>
<p>This whole post just seemed sort of grim and grinding. My advice from a few years farther down the road &#8212; lighten up a little. Money is about security; life is about relationships. It&#8217;s a mistake to focus so hard on the former that you sacrifice the latter.</p>
<p>When I went to college, my father told me that 75% of my education would come from my classmates, and he was right. I didn&#8217;t join clubs to get ahead; I joined clubs that interested me. I didn&#8217;t make connections with everyone; I formed deep and lasting relationships with a smaller group of diverse people with whom I&#8217;ve continued to share my life.</p>
<p>In my work, the joy has come partially from successful outcomes, but far more from being part of a good community of people who care about one another. A consulting firm I worked for still has reunions, some 15 years after the firm folded, and they&#8217;re always packed. Why? Because we liked each other then and we like each other now. Nobody remembers whether I gave home run presentations; they remember that I&#8217;m reasonably bright; good to work with and fun to have around. </p>
<p>There is a minimum threshold of performance &#8212; once you&#8217;re known to be &#8220;good at your job&#8221; it is relationships that make the rest of the difference. It&#8217;s also relationships which make the worth fun or, when they go wrong, awful.</p>
<p>Life is going to toss everything upside down more than once in your life. It&#8217;s OK. You&#8217;ll survive. Be agile, be open and know that as long as you&#8217;ve got folks who care about you, you&#8217;re the only sort of success that matters.</p>
<p>Yes, you should work hard. Yes, you should consider your work an investment and search out the highest ROI. Just remember that the most valuable return isn&#8217;t always about money.</p>
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		<title>By: rebel</title>
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		<dc:creator>rebel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 20:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This article is really a wake up call for me. My career is in IT. It is a very stable career path as there are opportunities everywhere. However, it is a changing career and I need to do more to stay ahead of the curve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article is really a wake up call for me. My career is in IT. It is a very stable career path as there are opportunities everywhere. However, it is a changing career and I need to do more to stay ahead of the curve.</p>
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		<title>By: Jessica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jessica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 20:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post.  I have been thinking about this a lot lately as I am in my senior year at a university and getting ready to apply to law school.  I&#039;ve really buckled down and have been taking more time to study in order to raise my GPA, as well as study HARD for the LSAT, so I will be more competitive for admission to the law school of my choice and scholarships.  Hard work in my undergrad secured me scholarships so I will earn my BS in Political Science debt free!  I&#039;ve been working for a prominent local attorney for 4 years learning anything I can to help me in law school and have been making some great connections along the way.  I&#039;m also meeting other important individuals in the community (elected officials, business owners, civil servants, people of trades, the list goes on).  This has already helped me tremendously and I&#039;m not even done with school yet.  I can&#039;t wait to see how things go when I&#039;m ready to start practicing law!  I love TSD, keep up the great work! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post.  I have been thinking about this a lot lately as I am in my senior year at a university and getting ready to apply to law school.  I&#8217;ve really buckled down and have been taking more time to study in order to raise my GPA, as well as study HARD for the LSAT, so I will be more competitive for admission to the law school of my choice and scholarships.  Hard work in my undergrad secured me scholarships so I will earn my BS in Political Science debt free!  I&#8217;ve been working for a prominent local attorney for 4 years learning anything I can to help me in law school and have been making some great connections along the way.  I&#8217;m also meeting other important individuals in the community (elected officials, business owners, civil servants, people of trades, the list goes on).  This has already helped me tremendously and I&#8217;m not even done with school yet.  I can&#8217;t wait to see how things go when I&#8217;m ready to start practicing law!  I love TSD, keep up the great work! :)</p>
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		<title>By: Lynn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 19:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m wondering now if my toying with a mid-career change is like the dip in the markets happening now. I&#039;m [almost] 37, earning decent income, but currently in the process of doing due-diligence in deciding whether to completely change careers...which would greatly reduce my income for about 4-5 years if I go forward with it. On the other hand, I could be doing something I would enjoy much more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m wondering now if my toying with a mid-career change is like the dip in the markets happening now. I&#8217;m [almost] 37, earning decent income, but currently in the process of doing due-diligence in deciding whether to completely change careers&#8230;which would greatly reduce my income for about 4-5 years if I go forward with it. On the other hand, I could be doing something I would enjoy much more.</p>
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		<title>By: Lurker Carl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lurker Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 18:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Investing in a career, never thought about it quite like that.  It sure sounds nicer than trying to get a better job!  Mid-career is probably the best place to invest as most folks have figured out their interests and abilities by then.  Might as well get paid to excel in what you like best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Investing in a career, never thought about it quite like that.  It sure sounds nicer than trying to get a better job!  Mid-career is probably the best place to invest as most folks have figured out their interests and abilities by then.  Might as well get paid to excel in what you like best.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 18:30:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trent,
Just wanted to let you know that this article, and this type of article, are what I really enjoy about TSD.  You take what some see as difficult concepts and apply them to real world situations.  Well done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trent,<br />
Just wanted to let you know that this article, and this type of article, are what I really enjoy about TSD.  You take what some see as difficult concepts and apply them to real world situations.  Well done.</p>
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		<title>By: Debbie M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Debbie M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 16:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tyler, if you can save a lot of your extra money, you can use it to help finance a move to a more fun job later.  Doing things like building up a big retirement fund and paying off a house while keeping expenses relatively low can go a long way toward taking off the pressure in the future.

**

I am already doing the strategy of investing my money with a different risk than my job.  My job is probably 95% bond (state job), and all my long-term savings (except my mortgage) are in stocks.  But I can imagine that people who are attracted to &quot;safe&quot; jobs are also attracted to &quot;safe&quot; investments and vice versa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tyler, if you can save a lot of your extra money, you can use it to help finance a move to a more fun job later.  Doing things like building up a big retirement fund and paying off a house while keeping expenses relatively low can go a long way toward taking off the pressure in the future.</p>
<p>**</p>
<p>I am already doing the strategy of investing my money with a different risk than my job.  My job is probably 95% bond (state job), and all my long-term savings (except my mortgage) are in stocks.  But I can imagine that people who are attracted to &#8220;safe&#8221; jobs are also attracted to &#8220;safe&#8221; investments and vice versa.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting take and timely for me since I had my annual review yesterday.  I like the 70% bond/30% stock analogy in the green box above, I never though of it that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting take and timely for me since I had my annual review yesterday.  I like the 70% bond/30% stock analogy in the green box above, I never though of it that way.</p>
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		<title>By: Your Friendly Neighborhood Computer Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Your Friendly Neighborhood Computer Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great concept! I think the most important point here in the networking aspect.  The group of folks you know are the ones that will be able to push for you to get that promotion, or find you a job if you loose your current one.  Plus, having a good relaitonship with your coworkers just makes work a better place to be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great concept! I think the most important point here in the networking aspect.  The group of folks you know are the ones that will be able to push for you to get that promotion, or find you a job if you loose your current one.  Plus, having a good relaitonship with your coworkers just makes work a better place to be.</p>
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		<title>By: Luke @ Money &#38; Fitness</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luke @ Money &#38; Fitness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this is the hardest thing to do in your post:
&quot;Take school seriously and get good grades. It’s tempting to goof off in college&quot;

You don&#039;t realize at the age of 18 or 19 how your decisions of a major will make an impact on your life.  College or four or five years but you don&#039;t retire for 40 plus years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is the hardest thing to do in your post:<br />
&#8220;Take school seriously and get good grades. It’s tempting to goof off in college&#8221;</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t realize at the age of 18 or 19 how your decisions of a major will make an impact on your life.  College or four or five years but you don&#8217;t retire for 40 plus years.</p>
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		<title>By: harry</title>
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		<dc:creator>harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is great! I&#039;m in college and it&#039;s always good to get reminded that things ARE an investment, it&#039;s up to ourselves to make the most of everything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is great! I&#8217;m in college and it&#8217;s always good to get reminded that things ARE an investment, it&#8217;s up to ourselves to make the most of everything.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the motivational boost, Trent. I&#039;m just starting my second year of part-time law school (four year evening program) while working full-time having just turned 34. There are moments where the end seems so far off, but it&#039;s good to be reminded of the forest for the trees. One point I would add to the &quot;Additional Investments&quot; section is persistence. There&#039;s a lot of &quot;hunkering down&quot; that needs to be done as these investments usually take some time to mature. Great article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the motivational boost, Trent. I&#8217;m just starting my second year of part-time law school (four year evening program) while working full-time having just turned 34. There are moments where the end seems so far off, but it&#8217;s good to be reminded of the forest for the trees. One point I would add to the &#8220;Additional Investments&#8221; section is persistence. There&#8217;s a lot of &#8220;hunkering down&#8221; that needs to be done as these investments usually take some time to mature. Great article.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. Just...wow. Thank you. This post is, to use the baseball analogy you used in the post itself, a 9th inning, game winning home run blast to the upper deck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. Just&#8230;wow. Thank you. This post is, to use the baseball analogy you used in the post itself, a 9th inning, game winning home run blast to the upper deck!</p>
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		<title>By: Jaymo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jaymo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 14:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Outstanding article Trent.  I&#039;m an enormous fan of this philosophy - extract the maximum ammount of goodness from your career (heck any JOB...any action, really) and apply it to the future you.  Thank you good sire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Outstanding article Trent.  I&#8217;m an enormous fan of this philosophy &#8211; extract the maximum ammount of goodness from your career (heck any JOB&#8230;any action, really) and apply it to the future you.  Thank you good sire.</p>
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		<title>By: Tyler @ Dividend Money</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tyler @ Dividend Money</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 14:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an intersting theory and one which I take very seriously.
My problem is that I have done such a great job &quot;investing in my career&quot;, tripling my salary over the past 4 years but it comes at the expense of not really enjoying the job.
I don&#039;t like commuting to work in a suit and tie each day, but the longer I stay the more successful I am at it and the harder it is to walk away and do something I might enjoy more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an intersting theory and one which I take very seriously.<br />
My problem is that I have done such a great job &#8220;investing in my career&#8221;, tripling my salary over the past 4 years but it comes at the expense of not really enjoying the job.<br />
I don&#8217;t like commuting to work in a suit and tie each day, but the longer I stay the more successful I am at it and the harder it is to walk away and do something I might enjoy more.</p>
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