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		<title>By: Shannon</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2008/10/03/some-thoughts-on-the-fulfillment-curve/comment-page-1/#comment-785392</link>
		<dc:creator>Shannon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 14:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trent, Just read this post from a year ago. Excellent illustration of the fulfillment curve with personal examples. I also like #28&#039;s comment: &quot;&#039;less than utterly fulfilled&#039; is a state of being that leaves me feeling both safe and option-rich.&quot; One example from my own life. I started on the Engine 2 Diet a few months ago, eliminating animal protein among other things from my diet. Now when I make something for my husband and occasionally eat a bit of shrimp or chicken, it tastes heavenly!! (At the same time, I don&#039;t crave for more as I&#039;m already filled up with other good things.) I think I will aim for maximum fulfillment with relationships but less than &quot;utterly fulfilled&quot; in activities and acquiring things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trent, Just read this post from a year ago. Excellent illustration of the fulfillment curve with personal examples. I also like #28&#8217;s comment: &#8220;&#8216;less than utterly fulfilled&#8217; is a state of being that leaves me feeling both safe and option-rich.&#8221; One example from my own life. I started on the Engine 2 Diet a few months ago, eliminating animal protein among other things from my diet. Now when I make something for my husband and occasionally eat a bit of shrimp or chicken, it tastes heavenly!! (At the same time, I don&#8217;t crave for more as I&#8217;m already filled up with other good things.) I think I will aim for maximum fulfillment with relationships but less than &#8220;utterly fulfilled&#8221; in activities and acquiring things.</p>
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		<title>By: Sally</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 13:25:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a great post.  There is a book that is companion to this idea that you may have mentioned on this blog - it has to do with having too many choices - which in a sense diminishes all the choices.  When I have vanilla, choc or strawberry - not to difficult.  When I have those flavors + 32 others - difficult choices!

What about the way we have of wanting Brand A for $200 - but that is too much - so instead buy Brand B for $75 - but Brand B wasn&#039;t really what you wanted - so you buy another - that&#039;s $50 - you&#039;ve spent $125 so far and you still don&#039;t have what you want.  I would like a blog about that.  

I have been working on that kind of stuff too - I buy less - but what I buy now is really what I want. I&#039;m done buying 3 things that I didn&#039;t want for $175 instead of the one thing that I want that costs $250</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great post.  There is a book that is companion to this idea that you may have mentioned on this blog &#8211; it has to do with having too many choices &#8211; which in a sense diminishes all the choices.  When I have vanilla, choc or strawberry &#8211; not to difficult.  When I have those flavors + 32 others &#8211; difficult choices!</p>
<p>What about the way we have of wanting Brand A for $200 &#8211; but that is too much &#8211; so instead buy Brand B for $75 &#8211; but Brand B wasn&#8217;t really what you wanted &#8211; so you buy another &#8211; that&#8217;s $50 &#8211; you&#8217;ve spent $125 so far and you still don&#8217;t have what you want.  I would like a blog about that.  </p>
<p>I have been working on that kind of stuff too &#8211; I buy less &#8211; but what I buy now is really what I want. I&#8217;m done buying 3 things that I didn&#8217;t want for $175 instead of the one thing that I want that costs $250</p>
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		<title>By: Georgia</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2008/10/03/some-thoughts-on-the-fulfillment-curve/comment-page-1/#comment-387118</link>
		<dc:creator>Georgia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 01:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve found that my fulfillment needs have dropped drastically since there is now only me at home, and I am retired and living in a small town.

I love it that I can go to yard sales, department stores, car dealers, book stores, etc. and not spend a cent.  I already have enough stuff at home to last me for the rest of my natural life, even if I live to 123.  (Wish me luck on that.)

What I&#039;m spending now is on visiting my family all around the U.S  However, there is where I have found my level.  I went to visit my son and daughter for about 11-12 days.  Way too much.  I have found that several much shorter visits are in order.  Family works and you are on your own a lot of the time and it is away from home, where you are the most comfortable.  I realized this immediately when I read CanadianKate&#039;s reply.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve found that my fulfillment needs have dropped drastically since there is now only me at home, and I am retired and living in a small town.</p>
<p>I love it that I can go to yard sales, department stores, car dealers, book stores, etc. and not spend a cent.  I already have enough stuff at home to last me for the rest of my natural life, even if I live to 123.  (Wish me luck on that.)</p>
<p>What I&#8217;m spending now is on visiting my family all around the U.S  However, there is where I have found my level.  I went to visit my son and daughter for about 11-12 days.  Way too much.  I have found that several much shorter visits are in order.  Family works and you are on your own a lot of the time and it is away from home, where you are the most comfortable.  I realized this immediately when I read CanadianKate&#8217;s reply.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 19:19:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder how outside influences (like caffeine in Starbucks coffee) affects what level you are at.  I sometimes find myself regretting getting 2-3 coffees a week, after the fact.  But when I&#039;m drinking them I remember how good it is and how it really does wake me up sometimes (I have a 14 month old at home) and does help me be more focused at work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder how outside influences (like caffeine in Starbucks coffee) affects what level you are at.  I sometimes find myself regretting getting 2-3 coffees a week, after the fact.  But when I&#8217;m drinking them I remember how good it is and how it really does wake me up sometimes (I have a 14 month old at home) and does help me be more focused at work.</p>
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		<title>By: brief</title>
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		<dc:creator>brief</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 18:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, Trent. I agree with Johanna, Lisa and Someone (comment #9) that fulfillment and affordability are two separate things. If you can&#039;t afford your &quot;4&quot; in an area, you should cut back on other things where you&#039;re at &quot;5&quot;-&quot;7&quot; so that you can. That&#039;s what frugality is all about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, Trent. I agree with Johanna, Lisa and Someone (comment #9) that fulfillment and affordability are two separate things. If you can&#8217;t afford your &#8220;4&#8243; in an area, you should cut back on other things where you&#8217;re at &#8220;5&#8243;-&#8221;7&#8243; so that you can. That&#8217;s what frugality is all about.</p>
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		<title>By: CanadianKate</title>
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		<dc:creator>CanadianKate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 16:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with the posts that say that the drop in fulfillment at the higher up numbers aren&#039;t linked to financial concerns.

It is a case of familiarity breeds contempt.

Here&#039;s a high end example:

We cruise with SilverSeas. Excellent service, great food, 5 star accommodations and really interesting passengers (average cost per day per person is $750 so everyone is in the high income range.) 

We&#039;ve gone twice - once for 17 days trans-atlantic, once for 27 days, Fort Lauderdale to Vancouver via Panama Canal and Alaska. It is my husband&#039;s dream to go on an around the world (80 - 90 day) cruise with them. 

The 17 day cruise was too short, I nearly cried when it was time to leave the ship. The 27 day cruise was perfect. 

At day 25 I was ready to go home. I had read the books I had brought plus some from their library, watched the movies I wanted to see, visited enough with people, was tired of lying around all the time, found the entertainment getting boring (although they bring on new entertainers in each port) and found that I was no longer enjoying afternoon tea and was tired of the same flower arrangements in the diningroom and dressing for dinner each night (casual night on this ship is the equivalent of a cocktail party at your golf club.) 

Day 26 was spent packing and saying goodbye and I had to leave the ship by 10 on Day 27. It was the perfect length of trip. Even had I been offered the chance to stay on for another 2 weeks for free, I would have found it boring, stifling and even irritating - after all do I really need someone to replace my towels every time I use them?

We won&#039;t be sailing with SilverSea next spring (due to the economy - we are self employed and work has completely dried up in the last month) but we will be watching the sales and hope to get aboard again as soon as we can. We just now know that length of cruise that is the peak of the fulfillment curve for me (and therefore my dh because he&#039;d have to listen to me complain if we were on board any longer!)

In all things, it is important to identify the peak of the curve and shoot only for that experience. Anything more is a waste of money.

We love Trans Siberian Orchestra but will not be seeing them in concert this Christmas season because I suspect we&#039;ll be on the downside of the curve if we spend the money for the third year in a row. Instead, we&#039;ve chosen a different performer to see, in order to stay at the top of the fulfillment curve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the posts that say that the drop in fulfillment at the higher up numbers aren&#8217;t linked to financial concerns.</p>
<p>It is a case of familiarity breeds contempt.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a high end example:</p>
<p>We cruise with SilverSeas. Excellent service, great food, 5 star accommodations and really interesting passengers (average cost per day per person is $750 so everyone is in the high income range.) </p>
<p>We&#8217;ve gone twice &#8211; once for 17 days trans-atlantic, once for 27 days, Fort Lauderdale to Vancouver via Panama Canal and Alaska. It is my husband&#8217;s dream to go on an around the world (80 &#8211; 90 day) cruise with them. </p>
<p>The 17 day cruise was too short, I nearly cried when it was time to leave the ship. The 27 day cruise was perfect. </p>
<p>At day 25 I was ready to go home. I had read the books I had brought plus some from their library, watched the movies I wanted to see, visited enough with people, was tired of lying around all the time, found the entertainment getting boring (although they bring on new entertainers in each port) and found that I was no longer enjoying afternoon tea and was tired of the same flower arrangements in the diningroom and dressing for dinner each night (casual night on this ship is the equivalent of a cocktail party at your golf club.) </p>
<p>Day 26 was spent packing and saying goodbye and I had to leave the ship by 10 on Day 27. It was the perfect length of trip. Even had I been offered the chance to stay on for another 2 weeks for free, I would have found it boring, stifling and even irritating &#8211; after all do I really need someone to replace my towels every time I use them?</p>
<p>We won&#8217;t be sailing with SilverSea next spring (due to the economy &#8211; we are self employed and work has completely dried up in the last month) but we will be watching the sales and hope to get aboard again as soon as we can. We just now know that length of cruise that is the peak of the fulfillment curve for me (and therefore my dh because he&#8217;d have to listen to me complain if we were on board any longer!)</p>
<p>In all things, it is important to identify the peak of the curve and shoot only for that experience. Anything more is a waste of money.</p>
<p>We love Trans Siberian Orchestra but will not be seeing them in concert this Christmas season because I suspect we&#8217;ll be on the downside of the curve if we spend the money for the third year in a row. Instead, we&#8217;ve chosen a different performer to see, in order to stay at the top of the fulfillment curve.</p>
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		<title>By: sylrayj</title>
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		<dc:creator>sylrayj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 16:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would be interested in seeing a comparison of fulfillment discrepancies among couples.  My husband wants a house - it&#039;s what his parents have always done.  I want something rented, because I don&#039;t know the first thing about home repair - and that&#039;s what my mom had to do when I was growing up.  I would be fulfilled with the rental company taking care of the building&#039;s more skill-required upkeep, and it&#039;s not enough for my husband, whereas I dread the learning curve and physical difficulty of tending a house.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would be interested in seeing a comparison of fulfillment discrepancies among couples.  My husband wants a house &#8211; it&#8217;s what his parents have always done.  I want something rented, because I don&#8217;t know the first thing about home repair &#8211; and that&#8217;s what my mom had to do when I was growing up.  I would be fulfilled with the rental company taking care of the building&#8217;s more skill-required upkeep, and it&#8217;s not enough for my husband, whereas I dread the learning curve and physical difficulty of tending a house.</p>
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		<title>By: Pieces</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pieces</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 15:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This really hits home for me. I need to spend some time thinking about it. A couple of the commenters mentioned applications for me already--like magazines and blogging. I just need to find out where the sweet spot is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This really hits home for me. I need to spend some time thinking about it. A couple of the commenters mentioned applications for me already&#8211;like magazines and blogging. I just need to find out where the sweet spot is.</p>
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		<title>By: almost there</title>
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		<dc:creator>almost there</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 15:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I retire at 50 on Halloween.  This was my goal after reading YMOYL.  I have a desire to downsize and get rid of clutter though a spouse doesn&#039;t see it that way. Individuals can get out of debt, but if lots do it our country will vanish as we know it.  Watch the goggle video just released: zeitgeist addendum to see what I mean about how our country needs debt to stay afloat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I retire at 50 on Halloween.  This was my goal after reading YMOYL.  I have a desire to downsize and get rid of clutter though a spouse doesn&#8217;t see it that way. Individuals can get out of debt, but if lots do it our country will vanish as we know it.  Watch the goggle video just released: zeitgeist addendum to see what I mean about how our country needs debt to stay afloat.</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brandon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 15:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too was around a 6 on the video game curve but have tapered it back to the 3-4 range.  I love picking up used copies of games for 1/2 the price and playing them.  Of course nothing is better than playing the same game time and time again for over a year.  

I really enjoyed this post because it is definitely true, the amount of money spend doesn&#039;t always equal happiness.  I think if you had Bill Gates kind of money then maybe it would but for &quot;Joe 6pack&quot; and the &quot;hockey moms&quot;, I think this curve makes a lot of sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too was around a 6 on the video game curve but have tapered it back to the 3-4 range.  I love picking up used copies of games for 1/2 the price and playing them.  Of course nothing is better than playing the same game time and time again for over a year.  </p>
<p>I really enjoyed this post because it is definitely true, the amount of money spend doesn&#8217;t always equal happiness.  I think if you had Bill Gates kind of money then maybe it would but for &#8220;Joe 6pack&#8221; and the &#8220;hockey moms&#8221;, I think this curve makes a lot of sense.</p>
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		<title>By: kristine</title>
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		<dc:creator>kristine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 14:20:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Had to laugh at the bike posts! I have a 10 dollar 1970&#039;s Scwhinn from the Salvation army that I have put at least 4000 miles on in 5 years. I am a 43-year-old serious biker who can go 50 miles in a day without soreness, though I usually only ride about 60 miles/week.

My bike is rusty, ugly, and I have some repairs done with twist ties. I never have to worry about anyone stelaiing my bike, though I lock it as it is so darned precious to me. It&#039;s  solid work-horse, and rides like a dream.

And you know what? I get smiles and waves from the other serious bikers out on our hilly terrain in the morning. There is a respect for the act, not the equipment. Maybe the equipment thing is a guy thing. 

Anyway- it is my all-time peak fulfilment purchase! I knew immediately when I bought it, rode it home, then realized I had to go back and get the car!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Had to laugh at the bike posts! I have a 10 dollar 1970&#8217;s Scwhinn from the Salvation army that I have put at least 4000 miles on in 5 years. I am a 43-year-old serious biker who can go 50 miles in a day without soreness, though I usually only ride about 60 miles/week.</p>
<p>My bike is rusty, ugly, and I have some repairs done with twist ties. I never have to worry about anyone stelaiing my bike, though I lock it as it is so darned precious to me. It&#8217;s  solid work-horse, and rides like a dream.</p>
<p>And you know what? I get smiles and waves from the other serious bikers out on our hilly terrain in the morning. There is a respect for the act, not the equipment. Maybe the equipment thing is a guy thing. </p>
<p>Anyway- it is my all-time peak fulfilment purchase! I knew immediately when I bought it, rode it home, then realized I had to go back and get the car!</p>
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		<title>By: Linda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 14:15:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can relate this to my coffee drinking habits. 
Right now I drink one large mug of fantastic coffee every morning (that I make at home).  This gives me the ultimate satisfaction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can relate this to my coffee drinking habits.<br />
Right now I drink one large mug of fantastic coffee every morning (that I make at home).  This gives me the ultimate satisfaction.</p>
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		<title>By: Betsy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Betsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 13:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m curious how people get to the sweet spot.

For those of us who have been at 6 or 7 on the curve (say with daily Starbucks lattes, something that&#039;s easy to change), what strategies work for scaling back without feeling deprived? And, for a different example, what about working on that scale? For example:

1. I am un- or underemployed, with no money or measure of professional success.

2. I am just punching a clock every day, and only one or two things about my job are really tolerable.

3. I&#039;m making just enough money and I like what I&#039;m doing pretty well, but weekends can&#039;t come soon enough.

4. I make enough money to pay my expenses and meet my savings goals, and I like what I do and feel fulfilled and excited at work.

5. I make really good money, or I really feel fulfilled in my job, but one of the two elements is out of balance. Plus, I have to break personal commitments to fulfill work commitments. 

6. Things in my personal life are slipping. My job has great rewards, but it feels like they&#039;re used to compensate me for missing so much of my family life and free time.

7. I am a complete workaholic. I tell myself it&#039;s justified by the pay or satisfaction, but the truth is that work is pretty much all I do.

I find myself doing a lot of wobbling on a sort of balance board over the curve -- whoa, that&#039;s too much, whoa, that&#039;s not enough. I wonder how other people either ramp up or dial back to get to a four.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m curious how people get to the sweet spot.</p>
<p>For those of us who have been at 6 or 7 on the curve (say with daily Starbucks lattes, something that&#8217;s easy to change), what strategies work for scaling back without feeling deprived? And, for a different example, what about working on that scale? For example:</p>
<p>1. I am un- or underemployed, with no money or measure of professional success.</p>
<p>2. I am just punching a clock every day, and only one or two things about my job are really tolerable.</p>
<p>3. I&#8217;m making just enough money and I like what I&#8217;m doing pretty well, but weekends can&#8217;t come soon enough.</p>
<p>4. I make enough money to pay my expenses and meet my savings goals, and I like what I do and feel fulfilled and excited at work.</p>
<p>5. I make really good money, or I really feel fulfilled in my job, but one of the two elements is out of balance. Plus, I have to break personal commitments to fulfill work commitments. </p>
<p>6. Things in my personal life are slipping. My job has great rewards, but it feels like they&#8217;re used to compensate me for missing so much of my family life and free time.</p>
<p>7. I am a complete workaholic. I tell myself it&#8217;s justified by the pay or satisfaction, but the truth is that work is pretty much all I do.</p>
<p>I find myself doing a lot of wobbling on a sort of balance board over the curve &#8212; whoa, that&#8217;s too much, whoa, that&#8217;s not enough. I wonder how other people either ramp up or dial back to get to a four.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2008/10/03/some-thoughts-on-the-fulfillment-curve/comment-page-1/#comment-386768</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 13:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post, Trent!  This one belongs on the favorites list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post, Trent!  This one belongs on the favorites list.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 13:12:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve:

The &quot;fulfillment curve&quot; actually relates to what economists call the concept of &quot;marginal utility&quot;. So it&#039;s not a &quot;thought experiment&quot;, it&#039;s just a way of simplifying an economic concept for a general audience.

Suppose you had a plate with 12 donuts on it. You might be happy after eating the first two or three, but after that, the enjoyment of eating successive donuts begins to gradually decrease until you decide you are better served by saving the rest for later.

In my economics class, we actually had to calculate the point of maximum (marginal) utility  of consuming X donuts with Y cups of coffee, but I&#039;ll spare you the details.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve:</p>
<p>The &#8220;fulfillment curve&#8221; actually relates to what economists call the concept of &#8220;marginal utility&#8221;. So it&#8217;s not a &#8220;thought experiment&#8221;, it&#8217;s just a way of simplifying an economic concept for a general audience.</p>
<p>Suppose you had a plate with 12 donuts on it. You might be happy after eating the first two or three, but after that, the enjoyment of eating successive donuts begins to gradually decrease until you decide you are better served by saving the rest for later.</p>
<p>In my economics class, we actually had to calculate the point of maximum (marginal) utility  of consuming X donuts with Y cups of coffee, but I&#8217;ll spare you the details.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2008/10/03/some-thoughts-on-the-fulfillment-curve/comment-page-1/#comment-386694</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 11:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have used this concept for years but didn&#039;t really know it had a name.  It&#039;s also glad to see my boys have reached #4 without my intervention.  This is seriously a skill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have used this concept for years but didn&#8217;t really know it had a name.  It&#8217;s also glad to see my boys have reached #4 without my intervention.  This is seriously a skill.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2008/10/03/some-thoughts-on-the-fulfillment-curve/comment-page-1/#comment-386600</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 07:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This curve idea is actually quite closely related to an important concept if (micro)economics called &quot;diminishing marginal utility&quot; (wiki has info on it). In short it means that there comes a point where the extra satisfaction (utility in economist speak) of buying one extra unit (of anything) decreases. For example, bedsheets may provide some comfort but after you have a few you don&#039;t nearly get as much satisfaction from owning another one (or ten for that matter). Extra units might give you extra satisfaction but less and less, so it&#039;s not linear. Just like the aforementioned 10 Bionicles (Kristen) 

So in case anyone was wondering, it&#039;s not merely a thought experiment but also an adaptation of this concept, which is widely used in economics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This curve idea is actually quite closely related to an important concept if (micro)economics called &#8220;diminishing marginal utility&#8221; (wiki has info on it). In short it means that there comes a point where the extra satisfaction (utility in economist speak) of buying one extra unit (of anything) decreases. For example, bedsheets may provide some comfort but after you have a few you don&#8217;t nearly get as much satisfaction from owning another one (or ten for that matter). Extra units might give you extra satisfaction but less and less, so it&#8217;s not linear. Just like the aforementioned 10 Bionicles (Kristen) </p>
<p>So in case anyone was wondering, it&#8217;s not merely a thought experiment but also an adaptation of this concept, which is widely used in economics.</p>
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		<title>By: Terese</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2008/10/03/some-thoughts-on-the-fulfillment-curve/comment-page-1/#comment-386599</link>
		<dc:creator>Terese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 07:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is probably my favorite post on your site so far, and I&#039;ve been reading it for over a year.  I liked how you gave multiple personal examples, and that you used graphics.

As far as my own habits go, after having a baby two months ago, going to our favorite restaurant is now a big treat for us, not really because we can&#039;t afford to go more often, but because we rarely want to be away from our baby.  We enjoy the food and atmosphere more, and make a point of dressing up and having the best time possible since we&#039;re only going to go out once in a given month, instead of 2-4 times a week, as we were a year ago.  (I took your advice and adjusted our &quot;norm&quot; from eating out whenever we didn&#039;t feel like cooking, to cooking at home for almost every meal each month regardless of how we felt.  Now eating at home is our norm, and we get so much more out of our meals because we&#039;ve decided that if we&#039;re eating at home, we might as well have a good time and use well-loved (albeit frugal) recipes, and when we do out, like I said, we get much more enjoyment out of it.

I am trying to see how to apply this fulfillment curve principal to other areas of my life.  I think that I may follow your example and figure out what Levels 1-7 would look like for me in a given area, and then evaluate where I am.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is probably my favorite post on your site so far, and I&#8217;ve been reading it for over a year.  I liked how you gave multiple personal examples, and that you used graphics.</p>
<p>As far as my own habits go, after having a baby two months ago, going to our favorite restaurant is now a big treat for us, not really because we can&#8217;t afford to go more often, but because we rarely want to be away from our baby.  We enjoy the food and atmosphere more, and make a point of dressing up and having the best time possible since we&#8217;re only going to go out once in a given month, instead of 2-4 times a week, as we were a year ago.  (I took your advice and adjusted our &#8220;norm&#8221; from eating out whenever we didn&#8217;t feel like cooking, to cooking at home for almost every meal each month regardless of how we felt.  Now eating at home is our norm, and we get so much more out of our meals because we&#8217;ve decided that if we&#8217;re eating at home, we might as well have a good time and use well-loved (albeit frugal) recipes, and when we do out, like I said, we get much more enjoyment out of it.</p>
<p>I am trying to see how to apply this fulfillment curve principal to other areas of my life.  I think that I may follow your example and figure out what Levels 1-7 would look like for me in a given area, and then evaluate where I am.</p>
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		<title>By: Chad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 05:20:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been reading for months now but this is my first comment.   This post is great, I really like the concept of a fulfillment curve and it is something I will try to consider when looking over my spending in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been reading for months now but this is my first comment.   This post is great, I really like the concept of a fulfillment curve and it is something I will try to consider when looking over my spending in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: MissGruntled</title>
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		<dc:creator>MissGruntled</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 04:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been a YMOYL fan for 14 years now and the fulfillment curve has always been a concept that resonated with me, but I do think it&#039;s missing a dimension.  In some instances, it&#039;s not that fulfillment starts diminishing, but rather like the beginning of post-peak oil, yes, more can still be had, but the price to obtain it (measured in time, money or effort) becomes increasingly ureasonable.  My &quot;housing fulfillment value&quot; might still go up noticeably if I went from my current small and ordinary 2 bedroom house to a 3 bedroom with a garage, but would the life energy I&#039;d have to expend be worth it?  For me, &quot;less than utterly fulfilled&quot; is a state of being that leaves me feeling both safe and option-rich.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been a YMOYL fan for 14 years now and the fulfillment curve has always been a concept that resonated with me, but I do think it&#8217;s missing a dimension.  In some instances, it&#8217;s not that fulfillment starts diminishing, but rather like the beginning of post-peak oil, yes, more can still be had, but the price to obtain it (measured in time, money or effort) becomes increasingly ureasonable.  My &#8220;housing fulfillment value&#8221; might still go up noticeably if I went from my current small and ordinary 2 bedroom house to a 3 bedroom with a garage, but would the life energy I&#8217;d have to expend be worth it?  For me, &#8220;less than utterly fulfilled&#8221; is a state of being that leaves me feeling both safe and option-rich.</p>
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