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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 00:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being debt free is great (or at least consumer debt free). Besides from the mental well-being you get from it, I find I&#039;m less likely to actual spend money when it&#039;s cash from my bank account, rather than some credit card whose statement I see once a month.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being debt free is great (or at least consumer debt free). Besides from the mental well-being you get from it, I find I&#8217;m less likely to actual spend money when it&#8217;s cash from my bank account, rather than some credit card whose statement I see once a month.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Farquhar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Farquhar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My question for those who criticize the Ramsey method is how much debt they&#039;ve paid off. Too often, people get hung up on that and then just stay in debt.

The important thing is to have a system. If you pay your debts in the perfect, optimal order (interest rate high to low), you&#039;ll have your debts paid off approximately one month sooner than if you paid them off in the worst possible order (interest rates low to high). One month! So even if you&#039;re wrong, you win big time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My question for those who criticize the Ramsey method is how much debt they&#8217;ve paid off. Too often, people get hung up on that and then just stay in debt.</p>
<p>The important thing is to have a system. If you pay your debts in the perfect, optimal order (interest rate high to low), you&#8217;ll have your debts paid off approximately one month sooner than if you paid them off in the worst possible order (interest rates low to high). One month! So even if you&#8217;re wrong, you win big time.</p>
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		<title>By: Kris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 20:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post Trent.  

I am a fan of Dave Ramsey&#039;s and I like to use his methodology often as guidance.  I have been following the &quot;pay the smallest balance first&quot; approach only because it keeps me motivated.  If I went to tackle the highest interest first,  I probably would have given up before paying off the first Card as it was the highest balance credit card I had at the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post Trent.  </p>
<p>I am a fan of Dave Ramsey&#8217;s and I like to use his methodology often as guidance.  I have been following the &#8220;pay the smallest balance first&#8221; approach only because it keeps me motivated.  If I went to tackle the highest interest first,  I probably would have given up before paying off the first Card as it was the highest balance credit card I had at the time.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy @ Retire at 40</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy @ Retire at 40</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 10:24:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just wrote an article called &lt;a href=&quot;http://retire-at-40.blogspot.com/2008/10/satisfaction-of-paying-off-debt.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Satisfaction of Paying off Debt&lt;/a&gt; and you know what, that&#039;s the biggest motivator there is.

Of course, once that has happened, saving for the future is the next one :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just wrote an article called <a href="http://retire-at-40.blogspot.com/2008/10/satisfaction-of-paying-off-debt.html" rel="nofollow">The Satisfaction of Paying off Debt</a> and you know what, that&#8217;s the biggest motivator there is.</p>
<p>Of course, once that has happened, saving for the future is the next one :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 02:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By paying off the smallest balance first, the DR method, for me, freed up some cash in case something larger than your emergency fund happened. I needed to free up cash ASAP. I deemed the cash flow problem to be more important than paying less interest at the time.

Once I had the cash flow problem solved, then I could pick and choose the debt to attack based on interest rate, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By paying off the smallest balance first, the DR method, for me, freed up some cash in case something larger than your emergency fund happened. I needed to free up cash ASAP. I deemed the cash flow problem to be more important than paying less interest at the time.</p>
<p>Once I had the cash flow problem solved, then I could pick and choose the debt to attack based on interest rate, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: ha'apai</title>
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		<dc:creator>ha'apai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 22:17:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FWIW, it doesn&#039;t have to be about emotion, or psychology, or even victory.  There are frequently reasons for paying off a cheap debt instead of paying down a more expensive one that have little to do with emotions.  Since I was on of those folks who suspected that emotions (and following the crowd) had a bit do do with getting into debt, I was understandably suspicious of other people&#039;s suggestions that I harness the power of emotions to get out of debt.

My tax refund was unexpectedly large (who knew that you could qualify for the EITC without dependents?) and I was debating what to do with it before it arrived.  My two best choices were paying down the signature loan (10.9% APR, fixed, $104 a month) or paying off the Perkins loan (5% APR, fixed, $40 a month, eligible for the full student loan interest deduction) and applying the remainder to the signature loan.  

With the voices of my tax accounting and finance profs in the background, I dutifully crunched the numbers.  First I annualized.  10.9% APR compounded monthly became 11.46%.  5% became 5.14%.  Then I applied 1-MTR.  11.46% remained unchanged but 5.14% went down to 4.15%.  According to what I had been taught, everything had to go toward the signature loan.  

Then where was this voice saying &quot;Pay off the Perkins loan&quot; coming from?  Had months of financial stress and rubbing shoulders with near-innumerate, short-term thinkers really affected me that much?  Why was I even considering paying off debt that cheap just to free up $40 a month?  I went to bed profoundly confused and upset with myself.  My brain was apparently rotting.  

By the time the refunds hit my account, I had an answer.  My finance prof, and just about every other credentialed money-talker out there, suffered from a going concern bias.  Their analysis ignored transaction costs, opportunity costs, and the possibility of default.  Unfortunately, it was no longer clear whether I was a going concern.  At that time, I had $50 to $100 a month in discretionary income after paying the absolute minimum on my debts, absolutely no savings, and unbudgeted irregular expenses were running about $50 a month.  I was paying down debt at a nice clip but I was also perpetually short of cash and it would not have taken much of a bump on the road to send me into the ditch.

In other words, I had become aware of two highly impolite truths.  Being broke is damned expensive and defaulting on your debt obligations is ungodly expensive.  

Let&#039;s elaborate on how being broke is expensive.  Being broke can mean that your bank charges you a $2 bank service charge each month because your checking balance is under $500.  Being broke can mean that when the cheapest margarine that you can bear to eat goes on sale for half price, you can only pick up an extra month&#039;s supply.  Being broke can mean paying $4 more for a parking ticket simply because you do not have the cash to pay off the ticket within an eight hour window.  Being broke can mean that you can only afford to pay your automobile insurance quarterly instead of monthly and the insurance company charges you an extra $3.50 each time they send you a paper bill.  Being broke can mean buying coasting into work on Thursday morning on fumes and buying gasoline at weekend prices just to get home that night.  A lot of this nickle and dime stuff can be avoided with a little jingle or a little planning, but until you get the hang of planning or have the cash in your pocket, being broke will cost you a whole lot more than the interest rate on your highest debt.    

It&#039;s hardly necessary to elaborate on how expensive it is to default on one&#039;s financial obligations.  Bouncing a check or being late on a single financial obligation can trigger all sorts of penalties and interest rate increases.  The less discretionary income you have, the more likely you are to incur these penalties and these penalties can make the interest that you are currently paying seem absolutely insignificant.  

I made a spreadsheet to calculate how much paying off the Perkins loan would cost me.  I quickly decided that paying an extra $15 in interest and taxes over the next ten months would dramatically improve my cash flow and dramatically decrease my risk of default.  

I&#039;ve never regretted paying off the Perkins loan ahead of the signature loan. With that payment gone, I no longer had to plan my finances three paychecks in advance just to stay afloat.  My concerns that I would take the $40 a month and coast instead of applying it to the signature loan were similarly misplaced.  It was incredibly easy to put that money toward the signature loan.  

Paying off the small cheap loan first was probably one of the best moves that I have ever made.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FWIW, it doesn&#8217;t have to be about emotion, or psychology, or even victory.  There are frequently reasons for paying off a cheap debt instead of paying down a more expensive one that have little to do with emotions.  Since I was on of those folks who suspected that emotions (and following the crowd) had a bit do do with getting into debt, I was understandably suspicious of other people&#8217;s suggestions that I harness the power of emotions to get out of debt.</p>
<p>My tax refund was unexpectedly large (who knew that you could qualify for the EITC without dependents?) and I was debating what to do with it before it arrived.  My two best choices were paying down the signature loan (10.9% APR, fixed, $104 a month) or paying off the Perkins loan (5% APR, fixed, $40 a month, eligible for the full student loan interest deduction) and applying the remainder to the signature loan.  </p>
<p>With the voices of my tax accounting and finance profs in the background, I dutifully crunched the numbers.  First I annualized.  10.9% APR compounded monthly became 11.46%.  5% became 5.14%.  Then I applied 1-MTR.  11.46% remained unchanged but 5.14% went down to 4.15%.  According to what I had been taught, everything had to go toward the signature loan.  </p>
<p>Then where was this voice saying &#8220;Pay off the Perkins loan&#8221; coming from?  Had months of financial stress and rubbing shoulders with near-innumerate, short-term thinkers really affected me that much?  Why was I even considering paying off debt that cheap just to free up $40 a month?  I went to bed profoundly confused and upset with myself.  My brain was apparently rotting.  </p>
<p>By the time the refunds hit my account, I had an answer.  My finance prof, and just about every other credentialed money-talker out there, suffered from a going concern bias.  Their analysis ignored transaction costs, opportunity costs, and the possibility of default.  Unfortunately, it was no longer clear whether I was a going concern.  At that time, I had $50 to $100 a month in discretionary income after paying the absolute minimum on my debts, absolutely no savings, and unbudgeted irregular expenses were running about $50 a month.  I was paying down debt at a nice clip but I was also perpetually short of cash and it would not have taken much of a bump on the road to send me into the ditch.</p>
<p>In other words, I had become aware of two highly impolite truths.  Being broke is damned expensive and defaulting on your debt obligations is ungodly expensive.  </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s elaborate on how being broke is expensive.  Being broke can mean that your bank charges you a $2 bank service charge each month because your checking balance is under $500.  Being broke can mean that when the cheapest margarine that you can bear to eat goes on sale for half price, you can only pick up an extra month&#8217;s supply.  Being broke can mean paying $4 more for a parking ticket simply because you do not have the cash to pay off the ticket within an eight hour window.  Being broke can mean that you can only afford to pay your automobile insurance quarterly instead of monthly and the insurance company charges you an extra $3.50 each time they send you a paper bill.  Being broke can mean buying coasting into work on Thursday morning on fumes and buying gasoline at weekend prices just to get home that night.  A lot of this nickle and dime stuff can be avoided with a little jingle or a little planning, but until you get the hang of planning or have the cash in your pocket, being broke will cost you a whole lot more than the interest rate on your highest debt.    </p>
<p>It&#8217;s hardly necessary to elaborate on how expensive it is to default on one&#8217;s financial obligations.  Bouncing a check or being late on a single financial obligation can trigger all sorts of penalties and interest rate increases.  The less discretionary income you have, the more likely you are to incur these penalties and these penalties can make the interest that you are currently paying seem absolutely insignificant.  </p>
<p>I made a spreadsheet to calculate how much paying off the Perkins loan would cost me.  I quickly decided that paying an extra $15 in interest and taxes over the next ten months would dramatically improve my cash flow and dramatically decrease my risk of default.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never regretted paying off the Perkins loan ahead of the signature loan. With that payment gone, I no longer had to plan my finances three paychecks in advance just to stay afloat.  My concerns that I would take the $40 a month and coast instead of applying it to the signature loan were similarly misplaced.  It was incredibly easy to put that money toward the signature loan.  </p>
<p>Paying off the small cheap loan first was probably one of the best moves that I have ever made.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan K from Going Carless</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan K from Going Carless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 21:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I made my decision to pay off my smallest debt for psychological reasons without ever hearing of Dave Ramsey at the time.

Praise God I will have the first credit card paid off by the end of this month! I sold my beloved home theater project to do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I made my decision to pay off my smallest debt for psychological reasons without ever hearing of Dave Ramsey at the time.</p>
<p>Praise God I will have the first credit card paid off by the end of this month! I sold my beloved home theater project to do it.</p>
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		<title>By: Nancy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nancy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 14:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post and I agree with Dave Ramsey paying off those smaller balances first gives that needed boost to continue.  I see it that if you eliminate some smaller debts and contuinue to put those funds to the next smaller debt as you pay things off and so on, the extra interest you are paying on higher interest balances is evened out when you can start slugging away at the high balances with more money later.  To me the reward of seeing a zero balance out weights the total dollar amount saved.  And you are better off then if you had not started a program.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post and I agree with Dave Ramsey paying off those smaller balances first gives that needed boost to continue.  I see it that if you eliminate some smaller debts and contuinue to put those funds to the next smaller debt as you pay things off and so on, the extra interest you are paying on higher interest balances is evened out when you can start slugging away at the high balances with more money later.  To me the reward of seeing a zero balance out weights the total dollar amount saved.  And you are better off then if you had not started a program.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob in Madrid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob in Madrid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 06:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn&#039;t agree more, something changes when you have real cold hard cash in the bank, you don&#039;t want to spend it!!!!!

Now if I could only apply the same principal to my eating I could lose that growing gut!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t agree more, something changes when you have real cold hard cash in the bank, you don&#8217;t want to spend it!!!!!</p>
<p>Now if I could only apply the same principal to my eating I could lose that growing gut!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: tightwadfan</title>
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		<dc:creator>tightwadfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 05:04:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree about starting with the smallest debt - it doesn&#039;t make the most sense mathematically but it definitely works psychologically.

The other thing I noticed about paying off debt - before we did, my husband and I were used to having debt payments as part of our monthly bills - you&#039;ve got rent, utilities, car loan, student loan, etc. But once we paid off all your debt and those monthly payments were gone, I found that I never wanted them back as part of my life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree about starting with the smallest debt &#8211; it doesn&#8217;t make the most sense mathematically but it definitely works psychologically.</p>
<p>The other thing I noticed about paying off debt &#8211; before we did, my husband and I were used to having debt payments as part of our monthly bills &#8211; you&#8217;ve got rent, utilities, car loan, student loan, etc. But once we paid off all your debt and those monthly payments were gone, I found that I never wanted them back as part of my life.</p>
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		<title>By: Cambo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cambo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 02:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For me, this is one of the best posts I&#039;ve read.

I&#039;ve been forgetting to be happy when I tick off a debt, so I&#039;m going to stop and do that for a second, rather than just looking at the next one to tackle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For me, this is one of the best posts I&#8217;ve read.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been forgetting to be happy when I tick off a debt, so I&#8217;m going to stop and do that for a second, rather than just looking at the next one to tackle.</p>
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		<title>By: JimK</title>
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		<dc:creator>JimK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 02:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By paying off the smallest balance first, the DR method, for me, freed up some cash in case something larger than your emergency fund happened. I needed to free up cash ASAP.  I deemed the cash flow problem to be more important than paying less interest at the time.

Once I had the cash flow problem solved, then I could pick and choose the debt to attack based on interest rate, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By paying off the smallest balance first, the DR method, for me, freed up some cash in case something larger than your emergency fund happened. I needed to free up cash ASAP.  I deemed the cash flow problem to be more important than paying less interest at the time.</p>
<p>Once I had the cash flow problem solved, then I could pick and choose the debt to attack based on interest rate, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Liberty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liberty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 02:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amazing timing for me to have read this article, Trent. I just paid off my first credit card a day ago. Same deal - chose the smallest balance over higher ones that I still owe plenty on.. I was so excited with I clicked on &quot;submit payment&quot;, knowing that FINALLY the amount owed was gone, gone, gone. The next day thought I felt rather emotionally drained and overwhelmed. That was because I want the other debts to disappear as &quot;easily&quot; as this one, and there&#039;s no way they will, not for a long, long time, you know? Still, it was a positive event in my financial situation and I shall continue to plod along. Love your articles. Just signed up yesterday. ~ Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazing timing for me to have read this article, Trent. I just paid off my first credit card a day ago. Same deal &#8211; chose the smallest balance over higher ones that I still owe plenty on.. I was so excited with I clicked on &#8220;submit payment&#8221;, knowing that FINALLY the amount owed was gone, gone, gone. The next day thought I felt rather emotionally drained and overwhelmed. That was because I want the other debts to disappear as &#8220;easily&#8221; as this one, and there&#8217;s no way they will, not for a long, long time, you know? Still, it was a positive event in my financial situation and I shall continue to plod along. Love your articles. Just signed up yesterday. ~ Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: over the cubicle wall</title>
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		<dc:creator>over the cubicle wall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 23:17:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good post, and good picture.</description>
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		<title>By: Georgia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Georgia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 22:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wasn&#039;t as lucky as some.  Around age 50 I lost my job and had to search for 1 year to get another.  Our cc bills rose.  Then we helped our daughter who was working two full time jobs and still unable to make ends meet.  Our cc bills turned out to be astronomical for us.  But I had learned one valuable lesson while working for an S&amp;L.  Always pay your bills on time.  When new credit offers came in, I always got the best offers.  When experts said you were ahead of the game if your interest rate was 14%, all my credit was at 9.9% until paid off.  Later, I found an offer for 4.9% until paid off.  Finally, the last 3 years it was 0% for 1 year (3 different cards.)

It took us 15 years, but the month after I retired I took my first 457 payment out and paid our last bill - we had bought a used car 6 months before.  By that time I had been using my cc to pay for almost everything and paying it off each month.  We were 69 &amp; 70, but the rush was still there.

I have refused to have any debt since then.  Keep up the good work, Trent, at telling people the good news.  On one of your posts someone suggested using your stuff in local high schools and colleges.  I think that is a marvelous idea.  They learn math, but not money management.  Charles Givens, &quot;Wealth Without Risk&quot; had this same idea several years ago.  We can&#039;t expect frugal citizens if they can&#039;t learn it at home or at school.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wasn&#8217;t as lucky as some.  Around age 50 I lost my job and had to search for 1 year to get another.  Our cc bills rose.  Then we helped our daughter who was working two full time jobs and still unable to make ends meet.  Our cc bills turned out to be astronomical for us.  But I had learned one valuable lesson while working for an S&amp;L.  Always pay your bills on time.  When new credit offers came in, I always got the best offers.  When experts said you were ahead of the game if your interest rate was 14%, all my credit was at 9.9% until paid off.  Later, I found an offer for 4.9% until paid off.  Finally, the last 3 years it was 0% for 1 year (3 different cards.)</p>
<p>It took us 15 years, but the month after I retired I took my first 457 payment out and paid our last bill &#8211; we had bought a used car 6 months before.  By that time I had been using my cc to pay for almost everything and paying it off each month.  We were 69 &amp; 70, but the rush was still there.</p>
<p>I have refused to have any debt since then.  Keep up the good work, Trent, at telling people the good news.  On one of your posts someone suggested using your stuff in local high schools and colleges.  I think that is a marvelous idea.  They learn math, but not money management.  Charles Givens, &#8220;Wealth Without Risk&#8221; had this same idea several years ago.  We can&#8217;t expect frugal citizens if they can&#8217;t learn it at home or at school.</p>
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		<title>By: eaufraiche</title>
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		<dc:creator>eaufraiche</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 21:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>uhhhhh... hit pause after 2 paragraphs.  did it all by yourself, Trent?  

what about that wonderful wife of yours?  let&#039;s give the girl a little credit sometimes!

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>uhhhhh&#8230; hit pause after 2 paragraphs.  did it all by yourself, Trent?  </p>
<p>what about that wonderful wife of yours?  let&#8217;s give the girl a little credit sometimes!</p>
<p>:)</p>
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		<title>By: elperko</title>
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		<dc:creator>elperko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 21:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes... it&#039;s amazing how debt sneaks up on you.  I&#039;ve had the monkey around my neck for 5 years, and in the last 2 months, I have finally been  snowballing my way out of debt, focusing on the debt with the highest monthly payments (not highest interest rates) first, so that my monthly cashflow could increase, and I could then roll that into knocking down the next one.  Previously I had been overpaying slightly on all of my debt, which was dumb, and a scattershot approach.   Since heeding the advice of Dirk @ http://www.dirkwalker.com, I have knocked off 3 student loans, 4 credit cards, and a loan against my 401k.  I have 2 more credit cards to go, which I can&#039;t wait to kill...  The snowballing technique has freed up over $1000/month that I was using to pay minimum payments on these loans.  So I can now roll that extra cashflow into the next loan and pay down the balance more quickly, and after the next two credit cards are gone, I can actually start saving again. Seems to me that the only reason you&#039;d worry about paying down the higher interest rate loans first is if you plan to keep the loans for a long time. Otherwise, it seems like the name of the game is to free up monthly cashflow, and you don&#039;t worry as much about the interest rates.  I&#039;d be curious to see if anyone has run the numbers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes&#8230; it&#8217;s amazing how debt sneaks up on you.  I&#8217;ve had the monkey around my neck for 5 years, and in the last 2 months, I have finally been  snowballing my way out of debt, focusing on the debt with the highest monthly payments (not highest interest rates) first, so that my monthly cashflow could increase, and I could then roll that into knocking down the next one.  Previously I had been overpaying slightly on all of my debt, which was dumb, and a scattershot approach.   Since heeding the advice of Dirk @ <a href="http://www.dirkwalker.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.dirkwalker.com</a>, I have knocked off 3 student loans, 4 credit cards, and a loan against my 401k.  I have 2 more credit cards to go, which I can&#8217;t wait to kill&#8230;  The snowballing technique has freed up over $1000/month that I was using to pay minimum payments on these loans.  So I can now roll that extra cashflow into the next loan and pay down the balance more quickly, and after the next two credit cards are gone, I can actually start saving again. Seems to me that the only reason you&#8217;d worry about paying down the higher interest rate loans first is if you plan to keep the loans for a long time. Otherwise, it seems like the name of the game is to free up monthly cashflow, and you don&#8217;t worry as much about the interest rates.  I&#8217;d be curious to see if anyone has run the numbers?</p>
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		<title>By: YoungMoneyTalks</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2008/10/21/that-first-taste-of-financial-success/comment-page-1/#comment-399016</link>
		<dc:creator>YoungMoneyTalks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 20:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s all about taking that first step. Paying off that first debt gives you back some control and once you feel like you&#039;re in control of your finances, you can move forward and really make progress.

@SteveJ, I love that Lao-Tzu quote.  It&#039;s so true!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s all about taking that first step. Paying off that first debt gives you back some control and once you feel like you&#8217;re in control of your finances, you can move forward and really make progress.</p>
<p>@SteveJ, I love that Lao-Tzu quote.  It&#8217;s so true!</p>
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		<title>By: Zendiagrams</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2008/10/21/that-first-taste-of-financial-success/comment-page-1/#comment-398979</link>
		<dc:creator>Zendiagrams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 19:32:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Motivation to keep going is a good factor for paying off some of the smaller debts.

But depending on ones situation, clearing out many smaller debts can lead to better credit to allow for a loan that could pay off a larger high interest debt and make it more feasible to pay down faster.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Motivation to keep going is a good factor for paying off some of the smaller debts.</p>
<p>But depending on ones situation, clearing out many smaller debts can lead to better credit to allow for a loan that could pay off a larger high interest debt and make it more feasible to pay down faster.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan McLean</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2008/10/21/that-first-taste-of-financial-success/comment-page-1/#comment-398932</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan McLean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thats awesome! I know the feeling of being debt free. It&#039;s great and you feel so free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thats awesome! I know the feeling of being debt free. It&#8217;s great and you feel so free.</p>
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