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	<title>Comments on: A Long December</title>
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		<title>By: Harith</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2008/11/30/a-long-december/comment-page-1/#comment-430232</link>
		<dc:creator>Harith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 07:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christmas is not about gifts.

Once you remove your mind from that terrible stigma of Christmas being a time to spend money on useless crap, you&#039;ll live better - even when economic times are great.

Christmas. Is. Not. About. Gifts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christmas is not about gifts.</p>
<p>Once you remove your mind from that terrible stigma of Christmas being a time to spend money on useless crap, you&#8217;ll live better &#8211; even when economic times are great.</p>
<p>Christmas. Is. Not. About. Gifts.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2008/11/30/a-long-december/comment-page-1/#comment-430111</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 02:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I must admit, Christmas is hard this year. Time seems to keep on beating and the news keeps on dropping bombs on us... or is it?  

Much to your point, Trent, there are a great many people who are hurting this year, so why not give a little cheer to them rather than to some of the people we regularly give to.  Perhaps it is a good time to look at some charities, organizations, or families that are in need and give a little to them.  

And if you can do it in the name of the person that would usually give a present, it is honoring to them.

You make a memory for them AND yourself....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I must admit, Christmas is hard this year. Time seems to keep on beating and the news keeps on dropping bombs on us&#8230; or is it?  </p>
<p>Much to your point, Trent, there are a great many people who are hurting this year, so why not give a little cheer to them rather than to some of the people we regularly give to.  Perhaps it is a good time to look at some charities, organizations, or families that are in need and give a little to them.  </p>
<p>And if you can do it in the name of the person that would usually give a present, it is honoring to them.</p>
<p>You make a memory for them AND yourself&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2008/11/30/a-long-december/comment-page-1/#comment-429613</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 17:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m in the same mindset as Trent, I don&#039;t even care if I get presents this year.  I just want to spend time with families and friends.

However, what to do about the gifts that are &quot;expected&quot; to be given to various family members?  I bet we&#039;ll still spend over $1,000 on presents this year - and it will be all &quot;stuff&quot; no one really needs anyway.  I don&#039;t mind buying presents for our young nieces and nephews, but for the older adults it seems silly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m in the same mindset as Trent, I don&#8217;t even care if I get presents this year.  I just want to spend time with families and friends.</p>
<p>However, what to do about the gifts that are &#8220;expected&#8221; to be given to various family members?  I bet we&#8217;ll still spend over $1,000 on presents this year &#8211; and it will be all &#8220;stuff&#8221; no one really needs anyway.  I don&#8217;t mind buying presents for our young nieces and nephews, but for the older adults it seems silly.</p>
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		<title>By: 144mph</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2008/11/30/a-long-december/comment-page-1/#comment-429356</link>
		<dc:creator>144mph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 11:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a great example of slave morality in practice.  

So the jobless people who have lost significant portions of their net worth should be consoled that the looters have not yet taken away their ability to derive simple pleasures from their family and friends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a great example of slave morality in practice.  </p>
<p>So the jobless people who have lost significant portions of their net worth should be consoled that the looters have not yet taken away their ability to derive simple pleasures from their family and friends.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 04:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a great post Trent.  Our investment accounts have lost a little over 50%.  I have told my family that we are going to be celebrating differently this year.  There won&#039;t be a mountain of junk under our tree.  There will be lots of good fun however and lots of time with family and friends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great post Trent.  Our investment accounts have lost a little over 50%.  I have told my family that we are going to be celebrating differently this year.  There won&#8217;t be a mountain of junk under our tree.  There will be lots of good fun however and lots of time with family and friends.</p>
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		<title>By: ubi</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2008/11/30/a-long-december/comment-page-1/#comment-429177</link>
		<dc:creator>ubi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 04:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting. I thought you were going to talk about the events in India. But I guess most of your readership resides in the U.S.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting. I thought you were going to talk about the events in India. But I guess most of your readership resides in the U.S.</p>
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		<title>By: teri</title>
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		<dc:creator>teri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 04:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i recommend rethinkingchristmas.com and adventconspiracy.org for ideas on alternative giving. The Advent Conspiracy (which is a Christian thing, but there for anyone who wants to change spending habits!) suggest &quot;give presence&quot; which is, I think, exactly what you&#039;re advocating.  People are putting all kinds of ideas out there!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i recommend rethinkingchristmas.com and adventconspiracy.org for ideas on alternative giving. The Advent Conspiracy (which is a Christian thing, but there for anyone who wants to change spending habits!) suggest &#8220;give presence&#8221; which is, I think, exactly what you&#8217;re advocating.  People are putting all kinds of ideas out there!</p>
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		<title>By: childfreelife</title>
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		<dc:creator>childfreelife</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 03:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trent, this post touched me deeply.  I lost my job on Wednesday, and I was trying to figure out what I would be giving to my friends and family.  But what is better than perhaps going to the beach with my bestfriend, telling stories while cuddled under blankets (no fireplace), and perhaps a nice bag of starlight mints for everyone.

“We’ll be find and dandy
Lord, it’s like a hard candy Christmas
We’re barely getting through tomorrow
But still we won’t let sorrow bring us way down.”
Dolly Parton</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trent, this post touched me deeply.  I lost my job on Wednesday, and I was trying to figure out what I would be giving to my friends and family.  But what is better than perhaps going to the beach with my bestfriend, telling stories while cuddled under blankets (no fireplace), and perhaps a nice bag of starlight mints for everyone.</p>
<p>“We’ll be find and dandy<br />
Lord, it’s like a hard candy Christmas<br />
We’re barely getting through tomorrow<br />
But still we won’t let sorrow bring us way down.”<br />
Dolly Parton</p>
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		<title>By: Battra92</title>
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		<dc:creator>Battra92</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 03:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just thought of it and came back here to find that BirdDog beat me to it. Here&#039;s the song for those who don&#039;t know it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbaxCG6mjMc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just thought of it and came back here to find that BirdDog beat me to it. Here&#8217;s the song for those who don&#8217;t know it:<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbaxCG6mjMc" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbaxCG6mjMc</a></p>
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		<title>By: BirdDog</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2008/11/30/a-long-december/comment-page-1/#comment-429103</link>
		<dc:creator>BirdDog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 02:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The whole time I read this post, I could here Merle Haggard singing in my ear.  &quot;If we make it thourgh December.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The whole time I read this post, I could here Merle Haggard singing in my ear.  &#8220;If we make it thourgh December.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Lou</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2008/11/30/a-long-december/comment-page-1/#comment-429089</link>
		<dc:creator>Lou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 01:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WE told the adults (some over 50!) that we&#039;re not giving them tchotckes and clutter this year.  The children - anyone still in school or under 18 get to choose whether we buy them a gift or make a contribution in their name to a charity of their choice.  

The money we would have spent on small gifts for the 30 adults will be sent to the food bank as a contribution from our family.  and we asked, please,  that no one give us material gifts, although we would be delighted if they made a contribution in our name to Habitat, Heifer or any food-providing agency.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WE told the adults (some over 50!) that we&#8217;re not giving them tchotckes and clutter this year.  The children &#8211; anyone still in school or under 18 get to choose whether we buy them a gift or make a contribution in their name to a charity of their choice.  </p>
<p>The money we would have spent on small gifts for the 30 adults will be sent to the food bank as a contribution from our family.  and we asked, please,  that no one give us material gifts, although we would be delighted if they made a contribution in our name to Habitat, Heifer or any food-providing agency.</p>
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		<title>By: Becky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Becky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 00:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve always felt this way about Christmas, and every year I try to bring up just spending time with family, and then my MIL gets a pouty look on her face and says no because to her presents (no matter what) are so important to her.  Tell me, how do you get around that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always felt this way about Christmas, and every year I try to bring up just spending time with family, and then my MIL gets a pouty look on her face and says no because to her presents (no matter what) are so important to her.  Tell me, how do you get around that?</p>
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		<title>By: Free Your Mind</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2008/11/30/a-long-december/comment-page-1/#comment-429069</link>
		<dc:creator>Free Your Mind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 23:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Because in the end, the time you spend with the people around you is the most valuable thing of all.&quot;

This is the truth.  It is good that people this year are going to focus on the &quot;more important&quot; things in life.

But what is sad is that it took this economy &quot;crisis&quot; in order for people&#039;s focus to change.  Truth be told, when you look at the statistics (Most people living 2 paychecks from bankruptcy etc etc), most people&#039;s own personal economy has ALWAYS BEEN BAD!

So maybe we should make a LIFE LONG commitment to focus on what is important, and our finances will be better in the long run!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Because in the end, the time you spend with the people around you is the most valuable thing of all.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is the truth.  It is good that people this year are going to focus on the &#8220;more important&#8221; things in life.</p>
<p>But what is sad is that it took this economy &#8220;crisis&#8221; in order for people&#8217;s focus to change.  Truth be told, when you look at the statistics (Most people living 2 paychecks from bankruptcy etc etc), most people&#8217;s own personal economy has ALWAYS BEEN BAD!</p>
<p>So maybe we should make a LIFE LONG commitment to focus on what is important, and our finances will be better in the long run!</p>
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		<title>By: Saver Queen</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2008/11/30/a-long-december/comment-page-1/#comment-429027</link>
		<dc:creator>Saver Queen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 22:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this great post.  I completely agree.  This Christmas my family and I are mostly exchanging homemade gifts and have significantly scaled down on our spending.  I&#039;m really looking forward to spending time with my family.  It is so true that the presents just disappear from your memory and it&#039;s the time spent together that you will remember.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this great post.  I completely agree.  This Christmas my family and I are mostly exchanging homemade gifts and have significantly scaled down on our spending.  I&#8217;m really looking forward to spending time with my family.  It is so true that the presents just disappear from your memory and it&#8217;s the time spent together that you will remember.</p>
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		<title>By: Treva</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2008/11/30/a-long-december/comment-page-1/#comment-428989</link>
		<dc:creator>Treva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 21:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The best Christmas I remember was the year my dad was furloughed (temporary lay off) from a civil service job at NASA.  As our primary source of income, family finances were stretched to their thinnest.  The local credit union even let people pay interest only on their home and car loans until the furlough passed.  I had worked the previous summer and saved quite a bit and my mom had to take almost everything from my savings in order to help us get through the tough 4 months.  There weren&#039;t many gifts under the tree, but they did give me a movie on DVD -- Jurassic Park -- and I remember that we spent the morning in our pajamas eating my mom&#039;s fresh-from-the-oven sausage and cheese balls and watching that movie as a family and *loving* it.  It wasn&#039;t entirely the movie, but that we were together and happy, that made it the whole day so memorable.

If money is tight in a home, I would suggest that parents give their kids a board/card game or two and then spend the day learning to play them and laughing your heads off.  Some of my best memories come from playing board/card games with my parents.

This year we are having Christmas with my Uncle, who is divorced and whose children are grown and moved away.  He said he would provide a tree if my 4 year old daughter would bring over the decorations; he suggested popcorn garlands, paper chains, etc.  So this year will really be built around making the tree decorations and something I hope my daughter will remember for a long time and take great pride in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best Christmas I remember was the year my dad was furloughed (temporary lay off) from a civil service job at NASA.  As our primary source of income, family finances were stretched to their thinnest.  The local credit union even let people pay interest only on their home and car loans until the furlough passed.  I had worked the previous summer and saved quite a bit and my mom had to take almost everything from my savings in order to help us get through the tough 4 months.  There weren&#8217;t many gifts under the tree, but they did give me a movie on DVD &#8212; Jurassic Park &#8212; and I remember that we spent the morning in our pajamas eating my mom&#8217;s fresh-from-the-oven sausage and cheese balls and watching that movie as a family and *loving* it.  It wasn&#8217;t entirely the movie, but that we were together and happy, that made it the whole day so memorable.</p>
<p>If money is tight in a home, I would suggest that parents give their kids a board/card game or two and then spend the day learning to play them and laughing your heads off.  Some of my best memories come from playing board/card games with my parents.</p>
<p>This year we are having Christmas with my Uncle, who is divorced and whose children are grown and moved away.  He said he would provide a tree if my 4 year old daughter would bring over the decorations; he suggested popcorn garlands, paper chains, etc.  So this year will really be built around making the tree decorations and something I hope my daughter will remember for a long time and take great pride in.</p>
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		<title>By: A Dawn Jornal</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Dawn Jornal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 19:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>December 2008 will be a month like no other. I hope things will be normal again in December 2009 and we look back and say, &quot;It&#039;s been one hell of a ride.&quot;
Cheers,
A Dawn Journal
www.adawnjournal.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>December 2008 will be a month like no other. I hope things will be normal again in December 2009 and we look back and say, &#8220;It&#8217;s been one hell of a ride.&#8221;<br />
Cheers,<br />
A Dawn Journal<br />
<a href="http://www.adawnjournal.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.adawnjournal.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Lois</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lois</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 19:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This Thanksgiving was spent with my husband&#039;s parents.  My 12 year old daughter was alone in the kitchen with &quot;Grandma&quot; for a good 1/2 hour.  I was in the livingroom and could just hear their voices chattering on and on - I couldn&#039;t help but realize that this was of much greater value than any material gift we could give our daughter.  That she could carry on &amp; enjoy a conversation with her 82 yr old grandma is priceless!
Thank you for such a beautifully written reminder, Trent.  Honestly, your words have taken the edge off the apprehension my husband &amp; I have had over the past few weeks.  Just this morning, we discussed how &quot;deal&quot; with Christmas this year - it&#039;s going to look quite different than years past.  Now I don&#039;t have that perspective, we won&#039;t &quot;deal&quot; with it - we will enjoy every minute of it and give our kids the gift of time, memories, and heritage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This Thanksgiving was spent with my husband&#8217;s parents.  My 12 year old daughter was alone in the kitchen with &#8220;Grandma&#8221; for a good 1/2 hour.  I was in the livingroom and could just hear their voices chattering on and on &#8211; I couldn&#8217;t help but realize that this was of much greater value than any material gift we could give our daughter.  That she could carry on &amp; enjoy a conversation with her 82 yr old grandma is priceless!<br />
Thank you for such a beautifully written reminder, Trent.  Honestly, your words have taken the edge off the apprehension my husband &amp; I have had over the past few weeks.  Just this morning, we discussed how &#8220;deal&#8221; with Christmas this year &#8211; it&#8217;s going to look quite different than years past.  Now I don&#8217;t have that perspective, we won&#8217;t &#8220;deal&#8221; with it &#8211; we will enjoy every minute of it and give our kids the gift of time, memories, and heritage.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Reese</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin Reese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 17:48:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terrific post, Trent. The tone was spot on and beautiful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terrific post, Trent. The tone was spot on and beautiful.</p>
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		<title>By: Anne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 17:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Karen McCall of FinancialRecovery.com is offering free her MoneyMinder Holiday Planner.  Just go to the products page and scroll to the bottom of the page to request.  It&#039;s an awesome product for planning and tracking your holiday spending.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karen McCall of FinancialRecovery.com is offering free her MoneyMinder Holiday Planner.  Just go to the products page and scroll to the bottom of the page to request.  It&#8217;s an awesome product for planning and tracking your holiday spending.</p>
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		<title>By: Battra92</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2008/11/30/a-long-december/comment-page-1/#comment-428858</link>
		<dc:creator>Battra92</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 16:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am worrying less and less about Christmas this year. Once I got everything done in advance I decided to just let other people worry about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am worrying less and less about Christmas this year. Once I got everything done in advance I decided to just let other people worry about it.</p>
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