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	<title>Comments on: The Boomers Go Bust: What Can We Learn?</title>
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		<title>By: plonkee</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/01/17/the-boomers-go-bust-what-can-we-learn/comment-page-1/#comment-484363</link>
		<dc:creator>plonkee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 13:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the key thing to take forward is *don&#039;t cut it fine*. Be aiming for more money than you really need, and that&#039;s especially as you get closer to retirement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the key thing to take forward is *don&#8217;t cut it fine*. Be aiming for more money than you really need, and that&#8217;s especially as you get closer to retirement.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 06:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing I don&#039;t believe was mentioned in this article is that you don&#039;t have to hit these percentages first year running.  For example, say you start with five percent and get a three percent raise the following year.  Add a percent to make it 6 percent to retirement and keep two for living off of.  Or maybe you pay off your car which was running $350 a month, add a percent to the retirement (say $40 equivalent take home), save the rest for some other important need.  In essense, with a little thought you can get to the twenty percent level over a dozen years without feeling like you&#039;re seriously harming your lifestyle.  Sure, if you could start there it&#039;d be better, but sometimes getting there in small steps is better than not getting there at all and taking a big chunk out of your salary when you&#039;re just stepping out on your own can be a rough pill for many people to swallow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing I don&#8217;t believe was mentioned in this article is that you don&#8217;t have to hit these percentages first year running.  For example, say you start with five percent and get a three percent raise the following year.  Add a percent to make it 6 percent to retirement and keep two for living off of.  Or maybe you pay off your car which was running $350 a month, add a percent to the retirement (say $40 equivalent take home), save the rest for some other important need.  In essense, with a little thought you can get to the twenty percent level over a dozen years without feeling like you&#8217;re seriously harming your lifestyle.  Sure, if you could start there it&#8217;d be better, but sometimes getting there in small steps is better than not getting there at all and taking a big chunk out of your salary when you&#8217;re just stepping out on your own can be a rough pill for many people to swallow.</p>
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		<title>By: Ilah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ilah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 23:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like GayleRN mentioned 401Ks etc have not been available forever.  My husband&#039;s employer (US Govt) didn&#039;t start offering IRAs until about 20 years ago.   When he retired, we had a very modest amount in his account.  We are able to choose from about 1/2 doz or so funds.  Some are totally safe, usually lower returns, but you can not lose your principal -- up to fairly agressive funds.  For years we had the money split into safe, moderate and agressive.  In July, Glenn Beck said the stock market crash was coming, so my husband said move it all into the safe funds.  Did so and we lost zero dollars.  With the small amount we have, we want to keep all of it.  My even smaller IRA  from a former job lost almost 50%.  I have 10 years to get it back  before I retire.  We don&#039;t plan on using our IRAs for month to month daily living, our monthly barebones budget does not include them.  But, I sure want to have it around for some extras.  My husband&#039;s account will remain in safe positions, we might make less, but at least we will still have out principal dollars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like GayleRN mentioned 401Ks etc have not been available forever.  My husband&#8217;s employer (US Govt) didn&#8217;t start offering IRAs until about 20 years ago.   When he retired, we had a very modest amount in his account.  We are able to choose from about 1/2 doz or so funds.  Some are totally safe, usually lower returns, but you can not lose your principal &#8212; up to fairly agressive funds.  For years we had the money split into safe, moderate and agressive.  In July, Glenn Beck said the stock market crash was coming, so my husband said move it all into the safe funds.  Did so and we lost zero dollars.  With the small amount we have, we want to keep all of it.  My even smaller IRA  from a former job lost almost 50%.  I have 10 years to get it back  before I retire.  We don&#8217;t plan on using our IRAs for month to month daily living, our monthly barebones budget does not include them.  But, I sure want to have it around for some extras.  My husband&#8217;s account will remain in safe positions, we might make less, but at least we will still have out principal dollars.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:47:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good advice, as always, Trent.  Always nice to see the basics reinforced.  All good suggestions (although, finding a target fund that starts aggressive enough, becomes conservative enough (but not too conservative) and converts from the first allocation to the second allocation at the desired speed is tricky).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good advice, as always, Trent.  Always nice to see the basics reinforced.  All good suggestions (although, finding a target fund that starts aggressive enough, becomes conservative enough (but not too conservative) and converts from the first allocation to the second allocation at the desired speed is tricky).</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 18:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My number one recommendation to Mary&#039;s daughter would be to sit down with a financial planner and calculate how much money she would need, in today&#039;s dollars, to support a given lifestyle after retirement at an age of 55 and shoot for that amount of savings.

If it is not only a great job but a high paying job (which I would call anything earning over 50K per year)  it should be no problem to save 30-50% of what she makes and just live like a person who earns 30K per year until she meets that retirement dollar figure.

If after looking at it hard, she chooses not to do so, at least she is making a conscious choise. In that case she should pick another scenario and stick with that.  Having a firm dollar figure (adjusted for inflation) for how much you need to save per year is better than a percentage guideline. But I do thing that mid-to-high income earners often don&#039;t take good enough advantage of that income for their own future benefit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My number one recommendation to Mary&#8217;s daughter would be to sit down with a financial planner and calculate how much money she would need, in today&#8217;s dollars, to support a given lifestyle after retirement at an age of 55 and shoot for that amount of savings.</p>
<p>If it is not only a great job but a high paying job (which I would call anything earning over 50K per year)  it should be no problem to save 30-50% of what she makes and just live like a person who earns 30K per year until she meets that retirement dollar figure.</p>
<p>If after looking at it hard, she chooses not to do so, at least she is making a conscious choise. In that case she should pick another scenario and stick with that.  Having a firm dollar figure (adjusted for inflation) for how much you need to save per year is better than a percentage guideline. But I do thing that mid-to-high income earners often don&#8217;t take good enough advantage of that income for their own future benefit.</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 18:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think saving 20% of income is probably a better basic guideline for young people to save for retirement. The 10% savings figure bandied about over the last bull markets assumed asset value increases that were actually due to asset value inflation, not increases in productivity, during the equity bull markets of the last 20 years. If you can find a way to save 20% of your income for retirement. If you have trouble doing that it could be viewed as a signal that you need to increase your income or expenses. A signal that, if you pay attention to it early enough in life, will make a big difference for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think saving 20% of income is probably a better basic guideline for young people to save for retirement. The 10% savings figure bandied about over the last bull markets assumed asset value increases that were actually due to asset value inflation, not increases in productivity, during the equity bull markets of the last 20 years. If you can find a way to save 20% of your income for retirement. If you have trouble doing that it could be viewed as a signal that you need to increase your income or expenses. A signal that, if you pay attention to it early enough in life, will make a big difference for you.</p>
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		<title>By: IRG</title>
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		<dc:creator>IRG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 18:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s interesting to see all the commentators talking about getting a part time job after you retire. As if they would be available.

Especially considering that many of us just a few years from retirement don&#039;t even have jobs now because of the economy...and, because of our age and/or health, won&#039;t be finding any new ones (A fact that is very hard to accept for many of us who WANT--not just need--to continue to work.)given the current economic situation.

The jobs just aren&#039;t out there and even those part-time ones that used to be available to &quot;seniors&quot; are now going to the way younger folks who wouldn&#039;t even consider them before, but who are now desperate.

All this talk about saving is great, IF you have an income to save from. Many people got let go in their 50s and 60s and are struggling to find jobs. You really can&#039;t support a family on a minimum wage job in most major cities unless you&#039;ve got one or more other incomes coming in. (and when you are single and self-supporting, forget about it) But that is what many who worked 35 or more years are now facing. It&#039;s both economically and psychically devastating to not find work.

For some of us, as one friend who is a college professor and who has always worked several other jobs, there is no retirement. We will, as he puts it, work until we die. But then the majority of us never thought that we&#039;d be living la vida loca if we did retire.

As one commentator noted, many of us will indeed be &quot;working at least part time or suffering rather badly trying to make ends meet, right at the point in their lives when it is hardest to change their circumstances.&quot;

And again, people have to have money to save. Not everyone is making big bucks from which to have money to save. A lot of people just barely  make enough to take care of their families. That includes frugal, careful and responsible folks who don&#039;t have thousands in credit card debt, etc.

You can&#039;t save what you don&#039;t have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s interesting to see all the commentators talking about getting a part time job after you retire. As if they would be available.</p>
<p>Especially considering that many of us just a few years from retirement don&#8217;t even have jobs now because of the economy&#8230;and, because of our age and/or health, won&#8217;t be finding any new ones (A fact that is very hard to accept for many of us who WANT&#8211;not just need&#8211;to continue to work.)given the current economic situation.</p>
<p>The jobs just aren&#8217;t out there and even those part-time ones that used to be available to &#8220;seniors&#8221; are now going to the way younger folks who wouldn&#8217;t even consider them before, but who are now desperate.</p>
<p>All this talk about saving is great, IF you have an income to save from. Many people got let go in their 50s and 60s and are struggling to find jobs. You really can&#8217;t support a family on a minimum wage job in most major cities unless you&#8217;ve got one or more other incomes coming in. (and when you are single and self-supporting, forget about it) But that is what many who worked 35 or more years are now facing. It&#8217;s both economically and psychically devastating to not find work.</p>
<p>For some of us, as one friend who is a college professor and who has always worked several other jobs, there is no retirement. We will, as he puts it, work until we die. But then the majority of us never thought that we&#8217;d be living la vida loca if we did retire.</p>
<p>As one commentator noted, many of us will indeed be &#8220;working at least part time or suffering rather badly trying to make ends meet, right at the point in their lives when it is hardest to change their circumstances.&#8221;</p>
<p>And again, people have to have money to save. Not everyone is making big bucks from which to have money to save. A lot of people just barely  make enough to take care of their families. That includes frugal, careful and responsible folks who don&#8217;t have thousands in credit card debt, etc.</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t save what you don&#8217;t have.</p>
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		<title>By: Dale Hanks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dale Hanks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 17:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its only in the last 50-100 years that &quot;retirement&quot; meant &quot;sitting on my behind until I die&quot;.  Thats nuts.  Humans have worked less as they have gotten older but they never stopped working.  I think that everyone should plan on doing something that brings in income until the day they stop moving.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its only in the last 50-100 years that &#8220;retirement&#8221; meant &#8220;sitting on my behind until I die&#8221;.  Thats nuts.  Humans have worked less as they have gotten older but they never stopped working.  I think that everyone should plan on doing something that brings in income until the day they stop moving.</p>
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		<title>By: todo es bien</title>
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		<dc:creator>todo es bien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 17:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even before the meltdown, if you studied the average net worth of individuals approaching retirement it became clear that most people would not be able to retire within the classic context. ( I believe I read a year ago that only 25% of people over 50 had a net worth over 250,000 and I would think that that percentage has dropped considerably since then) It strikes me that the great majority of people will need to work longer at least in a part time capacity - and that it might be quite difficult for the number of people who are going to need to work to find gainful employment. NOW would be the time to begin to think of how you might accomplish this. Personally, I will work as long as I am able, at least in a part time capacity. I think 20 years from now when we look back we will note that perhaps only 10% or so of the population will have been able to retire comfortably without working... Which is pretty frightening when you consider it. The rest will be either working at least part time or suffering rather badly trying to make ends meet, right at the point in their lives when it is hardest to change their circumstances.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even before the meltdown, if you studied the average net worth of individuals approaching retirement it became clear that most people would not be able to retire within the classic context. ( I believe I read a year ago that only 25% of people over 50 had a net worth over 250,000 and I would think that that percentage has dropped considerably since then) It strikes me that the great majority of people will need to work longer at least in a part time capacity &#8211; and that it might be quite difficult for the number of people who are going to need to work to find gainful employment. NOW would be the time to begin to think of how you might accomplish this. Personally, I will work as long as I am able, at least in a part time capacity. I think 20 years from now when we look back we will note that perhaps only 10% or so of the population will have been able to retire comfortably without working&#8230; Which is pretty frightening when you consider it. The rest will be either working at least part time or suffering rather badly trying to make ends meet, right at the point in their lives when it is hardest to change their circumstances.</p>
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		<title>By: Sheila</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sheila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 17:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Lou, I have to echo your statement about having disability insurance. I ended up with an illness that doesn&#039;t allow me to work, and I didn&#039;t have disability insurance. After a few years, I managed to get SSD, which, if I was single, wouldn&#039;t cover much of anything. So I tell my children (who may be at risk of getting the same illness) so always have disability insurance, and my DH, the sole wage earner, carries as much disability (and life) insurance as possible. 

Having been &quot;retired&quot; due to disability, I had to undergo the process of finding something to do with my life. It&#039;s tough--so I hope people start thinking about it now whether it be part-time work (hard to find right now) or volunteering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Lou, I have to echo your statement about having disability insurance. I ended up with an illness that doesn&#8217;t allow me to work, and I didn&#8217;t have disability insurance. After a few years, I managed to get SSD, which, if I was single, wouldn&#8217;t cover much of anything. So I tell my children (who may be at risk of getting the same illness) so always have disability insurance, and my DH, the sole wage earner, carries as much disability (and life) insurance as possible. </p>
<p>Having been &#8220;retired&#8221; due to disability, I had to undergo the process of finding something to do with my life. It&#8217;s tough&#8211;so I hope people start thinking about it now whether it be part-time work (hard to find right now) or volunteering.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 11:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great suggestions.  I especially liked the one about be willing to work part time at something after retirement.  The most unhappy retirees are those that just quit everything and sit down.  Having a part time gig can allow you to postpone tapping retirement funds, thus allowing more growth.  It also allows them a slower transition to retirement which can be a crisis the first year or two.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great suggestions.  I especially liked the one about be willing to work part time at something after retirement.  The most unhappy retirees are those that just quit everything and sit down.  Having a part time gig can allow you to postpone tapping retirement funds, thus allowing more growth.  It also allows them a slower transition to retirement which can be a crisis the first year or two.</p>
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		<title>By: Oskar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oskar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 10:16:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a big fan of saving through paying of your morgage, true it might not always be the most tax efficient way but no one is going to take that away from you. If you can live in your house/condo virtually free when you retire you don&#039;t need very much retirement savings to live.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a big fan of saving through paying of your morgage, true it might not always be the most tax efficient way but no one is going to take that away from you. If you can live in your house/condo virtually free when you retire you don&#8217;t need very much retirement savings to live.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 05:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interestingly, the boomers that were all investing together will start withdrawing all together...
Basics supply/demand economics - who is going to purchase the boomers &quot;hope and pray&quot; investments at the price they are hoping to get?

Can somebody spell lemming?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interestingly, the boomers that were all investing together will start withdrawing all together&#8230;<br />
Basics supply/demand economics &#8211; who is going to purchase the boomers &#8220;hope and pray&#8221; investments at the price they are hoping to get?</p>
<p>Can somebody spell lemming?</p>
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		<title>By: Mrs. Accountability</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mrs. Accountability</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 04:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At least she&#039;s got something. We have no retirement at my job.  My boss is 69 and a coworker that is 65 have no retirement and both have phenomenal amounts of debt. I think my boss&#039; retirement plan is to file bankruptcy... the coworker&#039;s husband divorced her about five years ago because he didn&#039;t want his retirement threatened by her debt.  My mom has no retirement and is trying to live on $800 a month right now. Luckily her house is paid in full. All this retirement stuff is pretty scary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least she&#8217;s got something. We have no retirement at my job.  My boss is 69 and a coworker that is 65 have no retirement and both have phenomenal amounts of debt. I think my boss&#8217; retirement plan is to file bankruptcy&#8230; the coworker&#8217;s husband divorced her about five years ago because he didn&#8217;t want his retirement threatened by her debt.  My mom has no retirement and is trying to live on $800 a month right now. Luckily her house is paid in full. All this retirement stuff is pretty scary.</p>
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		<title>By: Rosie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rosie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 03:14:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I put my 401-K rollover account in the hands of &quot;experts&quot; - Morgan Stanley. They made decisions on my account which put me in a loss situation.

So, yes I agreed, but also believed they were looking out for my account. NOT.

So, short of becoming the investment guru yourself, who do you trust.

Really dollars in the mattress is a better idea than letting those outfits rip you off.

First they are SALES people. They are looking to PROFIT off your hard saved cash.

They will tell you, &quot;do this and you will have what you need when you retire&quot;. The person doing that is 23 years old with no liability to the fact that the investments were not in your interest but THEIRS.

Don&#039;t even mention Wachovia in your website - did they not belly up to be saved by Wells Fargo?

Nobody has sound advice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I put my 401-K rollover account in the hands of &#8220;experts&#8221; &#8211; Morgan Stanley. They made decisions on my account which put me in a loss situation.</p>
<p>So, yes I agreed, but also believed they were looking out for my account. NOT.</p>
<p>So, short of becoming the investment guru yourself, who do you trust.</p>
<p>Really dollars in the mattress is a better idea than letting those outfits rip you off.</p>
<p>First they are SALES people. They are looking to PROFIT off your hard saved cash.</p>
<p>They will tell you, &#8220;do this and you will have what you need when you retire&#8221;. The person doing that is 23 years old with no liability to the fact that the investments were not in your interest but THEIRS.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t even mention Wachovia in your website &#8211; did they not belly up to be saved by Wells Fargo?</p>
<p>Nobody has sound advice.</p>
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		<title>By: Kat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 02:56:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has Mary done the Your Money or Your Life program? It might make all the difference. I got out of debt (except for a small amount remaining on my mortgage)in Oct. 2007, have been saving like crazy, bumped my retirement contribution to 15% of gross last March (per Dave Ramsey)and am tracking every penny. House will be paid off in about 2.5 years. 

I don&#039;t know how much my 403B (TIAA-CREF) has dropped (haven&#039;t wanted to look since July) but I&#039;m hopeful that between my frugality and a new administration where the adults are in charge that my timetable is still okay. 

I&#039;m also an artist and while 2008 was lousy for painting sales, things have rarely been that bad in the past, so I have some potential for income there as well as doing workshops, etc. So, fingers crossed it will still work out. I have no interest in a jet-set retirement anyway. I&#039;ll be meeting with the TIAA-CREF guy again in March and will get the scoop then. Like Mary, I now know I should have been much more aggressive in my early years. 

My hope is that since going to 15% of gross, I&#039;ve been buying really really cheap and when the market turns around, I&#039;ll be pleasantly surprised at the result.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has Mary done the Your Money or Your Life program? It might make all the difference. I got out of debt (except for a small amount remaining on my mortgage)in Oct. 2007, have been saving like crazy, bumped my retirement contribution to 15% of gross last March (per Dave Ramsey)and am tracking every penny. House will be paid off in about 2.5 years. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know how much my 403B (TIAA-CREF) has dropped (haven&#8217;t wanted to look since July) but I&#8217;m hopeful that between my frugality and a new administration where the adults are in charge that my timetable is still okay. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m also an artist and while 2008 was lousy for painting sales, things have rarely been that bad in the past, so I have some potential for income there as well as doing workshops, etc. So, fingers crossed it will still work out. I have no interest in a jet-set retirement anyway. I&#8217;ll be meeting with the TIAA-CREF guy again in March and will get the scoop then. Like Mary, I now know I should have been much more aggressive in my early years. </p>
<p>My hope is that since going to 15% of gross, I&#8217;ve been buying really really cheap and when the market turns around, I&#8217;ll be pleasantly surprised at the result.</p>
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		<title>By: Lou</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 02:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m already retired.  I had to retire 7 years early b/c of a head injury on the job that was &quot;no-fault.&quot;  Long ugly story.  Bottom line, I lost my last 7 years of income AND saving/investing. I had to start drawing from my savings 7 years sooner than planned.  (Sidebar:  Everybody needs long-term total disability insurance.  If your employer doesn&#039;t offer it, lobby for the benefit but meanwhile,  buy it yourself),

 I had only done 2 smart things: 
1)  I always had a payroll savings plan - before there were IRAs, there was a US Savings bond plan.  From my first day of full-time work (I saved nothing as a student), I saved 5% of my gross.  Never saw it, never spent it, never thought about it as spendable.
2) once I was established in my career, starting somewhere in my 30&#039;s, I directed half of every raise into  my savings.  If I got a 4% raise, 2% came off the top- into whatever saving plan was available through my employer.

This hard knock to the market has cost me about 20% of my capital, but since I&#039;ve been taking only 4% of earnings as a payout and reinvesting 2-5% every year, I&#039;ll be okay. 

Save early,  Save to an inaccesible location.  Keep increasing the percentage of your salary that you save.  Be prudent when you do retire about conserving capital.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m already retired.  I had to retire 7 years early b/c of a head injury on the job that was &#8220;no-fault.&#8221;  Long ugly story.  Bottom line, I lost my last 7 years of income AND saving/investing. I had to start drawing from my savings 7 years sooner than planned.  (Sidebar:  Everybody needs long-term total disability insurance.  If your employer doesn&#8217;t offer it, lobby for the benefit but meanwhile,  buy it yourself),</p>
<p> I had only done 2 smart things:<br />
1)  I always had a payroll savings plan &#8211; before there were IRAs, there was a US Savings bond plan.  From my first day of full-time work (I saved nothing as a student), I saved 5% of my gross.  Never saw it, never spent it, never thought about it as spendable.<br />
2) once I was established in my career, starting somewhere in my 30&#8242;s, I directed half of every raise into  my savings.  If I got a 4% raise, 2% came off the top- into whatever saving plan was available through my employer.</p>
<p>This hard knock to the market has cost me about 20% of my capital, but since I&#8217;ve been taking only 4% of earnings as a payout and reinvesting 2-5% every year, I&#8217;ll be okay. </p>
<p>Save early,  Save to an inaccesible location.  Keep increasing the percentage of your salary that you save.  Be prudent when you do retire about conserving capital.</p>
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		<title>By: Nebula</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nebula</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 01:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Troy--You make a lot of sense.
@Carlos--love the &quot;financial values congruence&quot; as per being necessary with your mate--truer words were never spoken!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Troy&#8211;You make a lot of sense.<br />
@Carlos&#8211;love the &#8220;financial values congruence&#8221; as per being necessary with your mate&#8211;truer words were never spoken!</p>
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		<title>By: CPA Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>CPA Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 01:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stories like this are far too common these days, I&#039;m afraid.  However, like Troy said above, why was Mary investing in something she didn&#039;t understand?  50/50 allocation, IMHO, is far too risky for someone that close to retirement.  At that point she should be investing in income producing assets not &quot;hoping&quot; for future growth.  If you have enough passive income coming in from your investments, what does it matter what the underlying stock price is?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stories like this are far too common these days, I&#8217;m afraid.  However, like Troy said above, why was Mary investing in something she didn&#8217;t understand?  50/50 allocation, IMHO, is far too risky for someone that close to retirement.  At that point she should be investing in income producing assets not &#8220;hoping&#8221; for future growth.  If you have enough passive income coming in from your investments, what does it matter what the underlying stock price is?</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 01:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Mary was planning to retire in 7 years, her allocation of 50% in the index fund was way too high. 50/50 isn&#039;t conservative at all if you are that close to retiring.

Many of the boomers who are nearing retirement are in a similar situation, where they&#039;ve kept the same allocation for years and never rebalanced. 

That&#039;s the best advice for her daughter - rebalance annually and reset your allocations every 5 or so years. The closer you are to retirement the less exposure to the stock market, the better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Mary was planning to retire in 7 years, her allocation of 50% in the index fund was way too high. 50/50 isn&#8217;t conservative at all if you are that close to retiring.</p>
<p>Many of the boomers who are nearing retirement are in a similar situation, where they&#8217;ve kept the same allocation for years and never rebalanced. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s the best advice for her daughter &#8211; rebalance annually and reset your allocations every 5 or so years. The closer you are to retirement the less exposure to the stock market, the better.</p>
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