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	<title>Comments on: How I Look at Economic News: Beyond the Talking Heads</title>
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		<title>By: Gert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 21:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well...

Lets see.  Given my POV, a native Michigander who finally got hit by a layoff too and who&#039;s fiance was laid off last December...

We didn&#039;t have a mortgage.  I wasn&#039;t spending beyond my means nor he his, in fact, I&#039;d cut back my spending and expenses drastically over the months to account for my hours and pay rate being cut and his layoff.  I was not lazy nor dead wood, nor was he, we were both praised in our exit interviews and given references.  Those of you assuming victims of layoffs are so obviously have never been let go in this way.

As my fortune has it, I have an oppertunity to go to school and improve myself so that hopefully I can get a better paying job in the future.

But to do this, I, like many, will have to get my &#039;soup kitchen card&#039; for food stamps to survive.  Because if I don&#039;t, I can&#039;t pay my rent or insurance, both of which are needs, not wants.  I have a used car and need internet to job search so that&#039;s also a need not a want that I must pay for, as too is electricity.  We really don&#039;t have much left over after we pay for these things.

Optimisim is all well and good and in spite of everything I know I can return to work making more in a couple years.  Hiking is free and so is using up art supplies I&#039;d bought but never had time to use.  

Optimisim is good, but I sort of doubt Trent has ever cried because someone bought his family dinner becuse they knew had they not, he and his family would have gone without that night because they had no liquid income to do so.

I have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well&#8230;</p>
<p>Lets see.  Given my POV, a native Michigander who finally got hit by a layoff too and who&#8217;s fiance was laid off last December&#8230;</p>
<p>We didn&#8217;t have a mortgage.  I wasn&#8217;t spending beyond my means nor he his, in fact, I&#8217;d cut back my spending and expenses drastically over the months to account for my hours and pay rate being cut and his layoff.  I was not lazy nor dead wood, nor was he, we were both praised in our exit interviews and given references.  Those of you assuming victims of layoffs are so obviously have never been let go in this way.</p>
<p>As my fortune has it, I have an oppertunity to go to school and improve myself so that hopefully I can get a better paying job in the future.</p>
<p>But to do this, I, like many, will have to get my &#8217;soup kitchen card&#8217; for food stamps to survive.  Because if I don&#8217;t, I can&#8217;t pay my rent or insurance, both of which are needs, not wants.  I have a used car and need internet to job search so that&#8217;s also a need not a want that I must pay for, as too is electricity.  We really don&#8217;t have much left over after we pay for these things.</p>
<p>Optimisim is all well and good and in spite of everything I know I can return to work making more in a couple years.  Hiking is free and so is using up art supplies I&#8217;d bought but never had time to use.  </p>
<p>Optimisim is good, but I sort of doubt Trent has ever cried because someone bought his family dinner becuse they knew had they not, he and his family would have gone without that night because they had no liquid income to do so.</p>
<p>I have.</p>
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		<title>By: jreply</title>
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		<dc:creator>jreply</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 04:36:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The negative news isn&#039;t spin. In fact, it doesn&#039;t go far enough in examining the deepness of the problems and the recklessness of the solutions being pursued. Do you think the FDIC has an endless supply of money?  Take a look at the numbers.  Do you think the Fed can remain solvent
forever?


The stimulus package cannot spend us out of the recession; it will just put us deeper into debt.
You can&#039;t keep zombie banks alive; Japan tried that in the 1990&#039;s.  We need to purge the misinvestments and let deflation bring housing prices back to sane levels instead of trying to inflate our way out of the crisis.


   Bubbles are caused by central banks printing too much money - the true meaning of inflation.
The Fed engineered 1% interest rates and you wonder why we had a bubble with enormous misinvestment?  The only solution for an artificial boom is deflation.  Only then will prices fall to market-clearing levels.


  The Fed has injected so much money that if the banks start lending again, we will be whipsawed by runaway inflation.  Right now, banks are just trying to boost their reserves. For some, it is too late.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The negative news isn&#8217;t spin. In fact, it doesn&#8217;t go far enough in examining the deepness of the problems and the recklessness of the solutions being pursued. Do you think the FDIC has an endless supply of money?  Take a look at the numbers.  Do you think the Fed can remain solvent<br />
forever?</p>
<p>The stimulus package cannot spend us out of the recession; it will just put us deeper into debt.<br />
You can&#8217;t keep zombie banks alive; Japan tried that in the 1990&#8217;s.  We need to purge the misinvestments and let deflation bring housing prices back to sane levels instead of trying to inflate our way out of the crisis.</p>
<p>   Bubbles are caused by central banks printing too much money &#8211; the true meaning of inflation.<br />
The Fed engineered 1% interest rates and you wonder why we had a bubble with enormous misinvestment?  The only solution for an artificial boom is deflation.  Only then will prices fall to market-clearing levels.</p>
<p>  The Fed has injected so much money that if the banks start lending again, we will be whipsawed by runaway inflation.  Right now, banks are just trying to boost their reserves. For some, it is too late.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 04:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I work at a small daily paper (circ. 10,000), and we&#039;re being told we lost a half million dollars last year and the company is running on reserves. The newspaper industry, as we know it, may not survive this recession, and that has me scared professionally because I love what I do, and worried about our country where the press plays a vital roll in our democratic process. Layoff announcements from newspaper all over the country are announced every week ... I&#039;m very worried.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work at a small daily paper (circ. 10,000), and we&#8217;re being told we lost a half million dollars last year and the company is running on reserves. The newspaper industry, as we know it, may not survive this recession, and that has me scared professionally because I love what I do, and worried about our country where the press plays a vital roll in our democratic process. Layoff announcements from newspaper all over the country are announced every week &#8230; I&#8217;m very worried.</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&quot;There is no stopping the unfolding of this cycle - it is like declaring winter illegal… you can do it but don’t have the tools to enforce it! (isn’t it what we are doing with climate change BTW?)&quot;

lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@&#8221;There is no stopping the unfolding of this cycle &#8211; it is like declaring winter illegal… you can do it but don’t have the tools to enforce it! (isn’t it what we are doing with climate change BTW?)&#8221;</p>
<p>lol</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timothy Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trent

Such straight talk is simply refreshing.

I love how you cut through all the crap and tell it like it is.

Life is not what happens to you, but, HOW you REACT to it.

This recession, as you say isn&#039;t even close to the great depression.

We ll get through it , because we CHOOSE to get through it.

Stay positive. Ignore the negative and the spin.
excellent article!
Spot on, my friend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trent</p>
<p>Such straight talk is simply refreshing.</p>
<p>I love how you cut through all the crap and tell it like it is.</p>
<p>Life is not what happens to you, but, HOW you REACT to it.</p>
<p>This recession, as you say isn&#8217;t even close to the great depression.</p>
<p>We ll get through it , because we CHOOSE to get through it.</p>
<p>Stay positive. Ignore the negative and the spin.<br />
excellent article!<br />
Spot on, my friend.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 20:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>.
A year or so ago, we were told that a few billions would suffice to shore up the banks balance sheets - The SHOCK took the markets down - that was great news, because, we were told, that all the bad news was in the market, and things could only improve!
We are now at 300B injected in Citi, Bank of America needs another 131B to digest Merryl, 100s of thousand bank &amp; finance jobs have been lost...

Don&#039;t you worry your goodselves, the US economy is strong and resilient &amp; we have a STRONG DOLLAR policy - said ex King Henry when Bear Sterns hedge funds were failing in July of 2007 (just 18 months ago)...

AHEM! the talking stick is now in the hands of BigLiar Geithner that recently managed to piss off the US main creditor, labelling the Chinese &quot;currency manipulators&quot; in order to extort the votes needed for his nomination as the Empire master taxman.

Are you going to believe that things are ready to improve? Who is going to lend to a lying through its teeth America? The Chinese?
Do we really think they are THAT dumb? I would rather hope not!

We&#039;d better think again! The Chinese might very well understand that the US is THE currency manipulator, printing fiat IOUnothings Federal Reserve Notes in a pathetic attempt to inflate its way out of debt; they would then not only stop financing the outrageous US deficits, but also likely send back their treasury bonds and demand payment.

Do you understand what the consequences would be for your financial future?
Are you prepared?
Would you bet your future on the remote chance that the American Character that Obama appealed to still exists?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>.<br />
A year or so ago, we were told that a few billions would suffice to shore up the banks balance sheets &#8211; The SHOCK took the markets down &#8211; that was great news, because, we were told, that all the bad news was in the market, and things could only improve!<br />
We are now at 300B injected in Citi, Bank of America needs another 131B to digest Merryl, 100s of thousand bank &amp; finance jobs have been lost&#8230;</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t you worry your goodselves, the US economy is strong and resilient &amp; we have a STRONG DOLLAR policy &#8211; said ex King Henry when Bear Sterns hedge funds were failing in July of 2007 (just 18 months ago)&#8230;</p>
<p>AHEM! the talking stick is now in the hands of BigLiar Geithner that recently managed to piss off the US main creditor, labelling the Chinese &#8220;currency manipulators&#8221; in order to extort the votes needed for his nomination as the Empire master taxman.</p>
<p>Are you going to believe that things are ready to improve? Who is going to lend to a lying through its teeth America? The Chinese?<br />
Do we really think they are THAT dumb? I would rather hope not!</p>
<p>We&#8217;d better think again! The Chinese might very well understand that the US is THE currency manipulator, printing fiat IOUnothings Federal Reserve Notes in a pathetic attempt to inflate its way out of debt; they would then not only stop financing the outrageous US deficits, but also likely send back their treasury bonds and demand payment.</p>
<p>Do you understand what the consequences would be for your financial future?<br />
Are you prepared?<br />
Would you bet your future on the remote chance that the American Character that Obama appealed to still exists?</p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 16:32:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>.
There is no stopping the unfolding of this cycle - it is like declaring winter illegal... you can do it but don&#039;t have the tools to enforce it! (isn&#039;t it what we are doing with climate change BTW?)

Roosevelt, when visiting the grand Canyon said &quot;leave it alone, you cannot improve it!&quot; - Obama reported it in his speech - I say leave this economy alone, it is drowning in fiat paper, pouring more won&#039;t help.

Leave the economy alone, let the cycle unfold, unsustainable activities will end, soon replaced by regenerated ones.

And while you are at it, leave the constitution alone, you cannot improve it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>.<br />
There is no stopping the unfolding of this cycle &#8211; it is like declaring winter illegal&#8230; you can do it but don&#8217;t have the tools to enforce it! (isn&#8217;t it what we are doing with climate change BTW?)</p>
<p>Roosevelt, when visiting the grand Canyon said &#8220;leave it alone, you cannot improve it!&#8221; &#8211; Obama reported it in his speech &#8211; I say leave this economy alone, it is drowning in fiat paper, pouring more won&#8217;t help.</p>
<p>Leave the economy alone, let the cycle unfold, unsustainable activities will end, soon replaced by regenerated ones.</p>
<p>And while you are at it, leave the constitution alone, you cannot improve it.</p>
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		<title>By: littlepitcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>littlepitcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 15:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The comment that true unemployment rates are closer to 17% is on target.  Remember:  when Southern blacks are unemployed by ag mechanization and Southern whites are out of work from factories closing, the media does not give a d**n.  When middle-aged and unpretty women get laid off after forty, find no work whatever, and end up in the projects, media doesn&#039;t care.  When stockbrokers, aerospace engineers and munitions makers, and now IT specialists are laid off temporarily or permanently, media starts squalling because these industries own lobbyists and PR firms.

In many rural areas of America, unemployment rates have long been in the 30% range, with workers on welfare who can&#039;t get the bucks together to relocate where the work is (or, now, was).  Far more of this country is rural than urban, and many of these workers have been counting on the rise in telecommuting to eventually find work.  Now that customer service jobs are being outsourced to India and other homework-eligible jobs are going out of the country, rural area will become even more depressed.  These regions have become hotbeds of methamphetamine cooking and greenshine-growing, and Mexican competition for these illegal businesses, as well as minimum-wage harvesting jobs, has put far more of America out of business than urban dwellers ever could imagine.

The recession has been here for ten years or more.  Clinton started it with NAFTA, and concealed it by a minimum-wage increase and currency manipulation.
Bush accelerated it, and we are truly on the highway to another Great Depression unless corporate America puts its citizens back to work and its money into capital improvements instead of into golden parachutes and other boardroom frippery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The comment that true unemployment rates are closer to 17% is on target.  Remember:  when Southern blacks are unemployed by ag mechanization and Southern whites are out of work from factories closing, the media does not give a d**n.  When middle-aged and unpretty women get laid off after forty, find no work whatever, and end up in the projects, media doesn&#8217;t care.  When stockbrokers, aerospace engineers and munitions makers, and now IT specialists are laid off temporarily or permanently, media starts squalling because these industries own lobbyists and PR firms.</p>
<p>In many rural areas of America, unemployment rates have long been in the 30% range, with workers on welfare who can&#8217;t get the bucks together to relocate where the work is (or, now, was).  Far more of this country is rural than urban, and many of these workers have been counting on the rise in telecommuting to eventually find work.  Now that customer service jobs are being outsourced to India and other homework-eligible jobs are going out of the country, rural area will become even more depressed.  These regions have become hotbeds of methamphetamine cooking and greenshine-growing, and Mexican competition for these illegal businesses, as well as minimum-wage harvesting jobs, has put far more of America out of business than urban dwellers ever could imagine.</p>
<p>The recession has been here for ten years or more.  Clinton started it with NAFTA, and concealed it by a minimum-wage increase and currency manipulation.<br />
Bush accelerated it, and we are truly on the highway to another Great Depression unless corporate America puts its citizens back to work and its money into capital improvements instead of into golden parachutes and other boardroom frippery.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 14:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Carmen:

The last two quarters in the UK featured negative GDP growth. (-.6% in Q3 of 2008 and -1.5% in Q4 of 2008.) If you look at the headlines, they&#039;ll say something like &quot;UK Officially IN Recession,&quot; not something like &quot;Recession Officially Begins in UK.&quot; The recession in the UK started sometime in mid 2008.  Not January.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Carmen:</p>
<p>The last two quarters in the UK featured negative GDP growth. (-.6% in Q3 of 2008 and -1.5% in Q4 of 2008.) If you look at the headlines, they&#8217;ll say something like &#8220;UK Officially IN Recession,&#8221; not something like &#8220;Recession Officially Begins in UK.&#8221; The recession in the UK started sometime in mid 2008.  Not January.</p>
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		<title>By: jana</title>
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		<dc:creator>jana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 06:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this also depends on where you live. i am an european. until recently only automotive firms and certain money institutions encountered problems. since christmas, however, there has been a ton of layoffs in my field and people are seriously struggling</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this also depends on where you live. i am an european. until recently only automotive firms and certain money institutions encountered problems. since christmas, however, there has been a ton of layoffs in my field and people are seriously struggling</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 23:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As many others have said, we are at the beginning of something that I think will get worse. What happens when gas prices return to $4 or higher (and they will only get higher in the next 5 years)? That will be devastating for a lot of companies and individuals. 

As for a dust bowl? Our agricultural practices are totally unsustainable and coupled with climate change could result in a pretty fierce dust bowl.

I do agree that we shouldn&#039;t panic and worry (Matthew 6:25-34) about the doom and gloom. Personally I&#039;ve been trying to simplify my life and spending not for a recession or depression, but because it&#039;s a better lifestyle regardless of the economic climate.

Really enjoy the blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As many others have said, we are at the beginning of something that I think will get worse. What happens when gas prices return to $4 or higher (and they will only get higher in the next 5 years)? That will be devastating for a lot of companies and individuals. </p>
<p>As for a dust bowl? Our agricultural practices are totally unsustainable and coupled with climate change could result in a pretty fierce dust bowl.</p>
<p>I do agree that we shouldn&#8217;t panic and worry (Matthew 6:25-34) about the doom and gloom. Personally I&#8217;ve been trying to simplify my life and spending not for a recession or depression, but because it&#8217;s a better lifestyle regardless of the economic climate.</p>
<p>Really enjoy the blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Beth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 22:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I&#039;ve read from New York and Seattle, Midwest and a few states scattered in between. I&#039;m from Michigan, and yep obviously it&#039;s hit us hard! Just yesterday I had to say goodbye to 9 of my co-workers on my floor alone. (I work for Ford if you were wondering)I&#039;ve survived 2 reductions, and am preparing to not survive the next. To the comment about moving....My husband and I bought a house in Aug of 2007 where we were certain we hit close to the bottom of the real estate market (boy were we wrong!) and put so much money down on the house, I couldn&#039;t imagine walking away even if I were next in line to be cut from my job. And since I am married, what about my husband&#039;s job? Just because I may be in jeopardy of losing my job, does that mean we both uproot and leave his job and both hope for jobs where we end up? I think the comment of just move, was a knee jerk reaction and maybe should have been more thought out instead of a solution for everyone. For us and many ppl I know we cut where we can, we use up some of the emergency fund for necessities and hope for better times. I know plenty of people that have been out of work for much longer than UI will allow. I just hope people learn from everyone&#039;s mistakes and holds onto their money. I will agree that I am one of those cars in the mall parking lot, but like luvleftovers, I&#039;m just looking for somewhere to walk around b/c I&#039;ve cut so much of my entertainment budget we look forward to window shopping. I&#039;m sure that I might not be the norm, and there are many young and old alike that haven&#039;t cut their spending, but maybe they should! I don&#039;t agree with Trent, but my side of things are just as skewed as his since I do live in the #1 state for unemployment right now!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I&#8217;ve read from New York and Seattle, Midwest and a few states scattered in between. I&#8217;m from Michigan, and yep obviously it&#8217;s hit us hard! Just yesterday I had to say goodbye to 9 of my co-workers on my floor alone. (I work for Ford if you were wondering)I&#8217;ve survived 2 reductions, and am preparing to not survive the next. To the comment about moving&#8230;.My husband and I bought a house in Aug of 2007 where we were certain we hit close to the bottom of the real estate market (boy were we wrong!) and put so much money down on the house, I couldn&#8217;t imagine walking away even if I were next in line to be cut from my job. And since I am married, what about my husband&#8217;s job? Just because I may be in jeopardy of losing my job, does that mean we both uproot and leave his job and both hope for jobs where we end up? I think the comment of just move, was a knee jerk reaction and maybe should have been more thought out instead of a solution for everyone. For us and many ppl I know we cut where we can, we use up some of the emergency fund for necessities and hope for better times. I know plenty of people that have been out of work for much longer than UI will allow. I just hope people learn from everyone&#8217;s mistakes and holds onto their money. I will agree that I am one of those cars in the mall parking lot, but like luvleftovers, I&#8217;m just looking for somewhere to walk around b/c I&#8217;ve cut so much of my entertainment budget we look forward to window shopping. I&#8217;m sure that I might not be the norm, and there are many young and old alike that haven&#8217;t cut their spending, but maybe they should! I don&#8217;t agree with Trent, but my side of things are just as skewed as his since I do live in the #1 state for unemployment right now!</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Nickle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Nickle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 22:10:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think you can refinance a mortgage if your house is now worth less than you owe (unless you can fork over more cash to make up the difference). 

Can someone correct me, if I am mistaken?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think you can refinance a mortgage if your house is now worth less than you owe (unless you can fork over more cash to make up the difference). </p>
<p>Can someone correct me, if I am mistaken?</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 21:32:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Matt and  ARM/Alt A rate reset:

Yes, those rates can be refinanced at a lower rate, but only if you now qualify based upon income and the amount of the loan. Probably 80% of alt-A loans were based upon fraudulent income figures and that kind of underwriting doesn&#039;t exist now in this market (thankfully). And, leaving the income verification aside, if your home is valued at betwen 10-30% less than it was when you bought it, you may not qualify in this market because you might not have any equity.  So the idea that the interest rate drop is a solution to this has to take that into account.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Matt and  ARM/Alt A rate reset:</p>
<p>Yes, those rates can be refinanced at a lower rate, but only if you now qualify based upon income and the amount of the loan. Probably 80% of alt-A loans were based upon fraudulent income figures and that kind of underwriting doesn&#8217;t exist now in this market (thankfully). And, leaving the income verification aside, if your home is valued at betwen 10-30% less than it was when you bought it, you may not qualify in this market because you might not have any equity.  So the idea that the interest rate drop is a solution to this has to take that into account.</p>
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		<title>By: CPA Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>CPA Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 20:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@luvleftovers - re: moving, I realize it&#039;s early in the recession, but at some point don&#039;t you have to cut your losses (house included) and try to get a job somewhere?  I would think after a year or so of no job, maybe less, I would start looking everywhere.  Obviously I&#039;m not talking about doing anything drastic the day after you&#039;re laid off.

Re: the restaurants, malls, etc. I agree some may be in denial or overspending, but I&#039;m not sure whole restaurants full of people count.  It may be different where you live, I&#039;m just reporting what I see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@luvleftovers &#8211; re: moving, I realize it&#8217;s early in the recession, but at some point don&#8217;t you have to cut your losses (house included) and try to get a job somewhere?  I would think after a year or so of no job, maybe less, I would start looking everywhere.  Obviously I&#8217;m not talking about doing anything drastic the day after you&#8217;re laid off.</p>
<p>Re: the restaurants, malls, etc. I agree some may be in denial or overspending, but I&#8217;m not sure whole restaurants full of people count.  It may be different where you live, I&#8217;m just reporting what I see.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 19:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t stand the negative. It&#039;s not going to help at all. Plus, the macro situation doesn&#039;t always affect us on a micro level.

Best thing to do in my mind, that so many forget, is just to know your situation. Using a tool like BudgetPuluse (http://budgetpulse.com) will help so much in understanding where you sit financially and how to react to the &quot;huge&quot; news stories.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t stand the negative. It&#8217;s not going to help at all. Plus, the macro situation doesn&#8217;t always affect us on a micro level.</p>
<p>Best thing to do in my mind, that so many forget, is just to know your situation. Using a tool like BudgetPuluse (<a href="http://budgetpulse.com" rel="nofollow">http://budgetpulse.com</a>) will help so much in understanding where you sit financially and how to react to the &#8220;huge&#8221; news stories.</p>
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		<title>By: Carmen</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/01/22/how-i-look-at-economic-news-beyond-the-talking-heads/comment-page-2/#comment-491775</link>
		<dc:creator>Carmen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 19:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Kevin: I know recession is called after the event. I understand what you are trying to say. But it takes 2+ quarters of contraction. So the UK actually went into recession at the beginning of the month (Jan), instead of today. I am well aware that things were not great to get to this point, but the start of a recession is just that, a beginning. And so we (in the UK at least) are at the beginning of the recession. I don&#039;t think anyone can argue with that. And if it&#039;s short lived, as in the end is already in sight from the beginning (ha!), then great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kevin: I know recession is called after the event. I understand what you are trying to say. But it takes 2+ quarters of contraction. So the UK actually went into recession at the beginning of the month (Jan), instead of today. I am well aware that things were not great to get to this point, but the start of a recession is just that, a beginning. And so we (in the UK at least) are at the beginning of the recession. I don&#8217;t think anyone can argue with that. And if it&#8217;s short lived, as in the end is already in sight from the beginning (ha!), then great.</p>
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		<title>By: Scaly Salamander</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/01/22/how-i-look-at-economic-news-beyond-the-talking-heads/comment-page-2/#comment-491695</link>
		<dc:creator>Scaly Salamander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 18:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IBM employees all over the country were on edge yesterday as layoffs were handed out. There are no official numbers, but the union thinks it&#039;s around 3,000. By the way, a &quot;layoff&quot; at IBM is a dismissal; they don&#039;t call you back later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IBM employees all over the country were on edge yesterday as layoffs were handed out. There are no official numbers, but the union thinks it&#8217;s around 3,000. By the way, a &#8220;layoff&#8221; at IBM is a dismissal; they don&#8217;t call you back later.</p>
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		<title>By: Cathy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 17:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@luvleftovers: That was my thought as well.  Some people are in denial.  For many young people, they haven&#039;t lived through a prolonged recession before, and haven&#039;t changed any of their habits yet.  I live in Seattle and know quite a few kids that work for Microsoft that have a mortgage, an Audi, have never cooked anything at home before, and have zero money in savings.  They are in for a rough ride.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@luvleftovers: That was my thought as well.  Some people are in denial.  For many young people, they haven&#8217;t lived through a prolonged recession before, and haven&#8217;t changed any of their habits yet.  I live in Seattle and know quite a few kids that work for Microsoft that have a mortgage, an Audi, have never cooked anything at home before, and have zero money in savings.  They are in for a rough ride.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 16:45:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>.
One more resource to see through the lies:
http://www.shadowstats.com - If you ever wondered why you could not re-conciliate what you experience daily with what the government is telling you (no inflation, no unemployment, etc...) this is the place to go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>.<br />
One more resource to see through the lies:<br />
<a href="http://www.shadowstats.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.shadowstats.com</a> &#8211; If you ever wondered why you could not re-conciliate what you experience daily with what the government is telling you (no inflation, no unemployment, etc&#8230;) this is the place to go.</p>
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