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		<title>By: Cathy</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/02/12/one-step-isnt-a-journey/#comment-519623</link>
		<dc:creator>Cathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 17:42:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[An extra $10,000 in retirement means more vacations.  You get senior rates for buffets, plus you can pick the cheapest flight days because you don&#039;t have to schedule vacation time at work.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An extra $10,000 in retirement means more vacations.  You get senior rates for buffets, plus you can pick the cheapest flight days because you don&#8217;t have to schedule vacation time at work.</p>
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		<title>By: finkle is einhorn</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/02/12/one-step-isnt-a-journey/#comment-519595</link>
		<dc:creator>finkle is einhorn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 17:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Herd had a point. Financial experts go on and on and on about how those coffees and little expenses add up. That&#039;s a no-brainer.

But while it&#039;s good to be mindful of these &quot;low hanging fruit,&quot; it&#039;s the big-ticket items that do far more harm in a much shorter period of time.

Forming good habits is one thing. But swearing off a $2 coffee only to drop $1000 on plane tickets or $200 on a weekend in the city kind of defeats the purpose.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Herd had a point. Financial experts go on and on and on about how those coffees and little expenses add up. That&#8217;s a no-brainer.</p>
<p>But while it&#8217;s good to be mindful of these &#8220;low hanging fruit,&#8221; it&#8217;s the big-ticket items that do far more harm in a much shorter period of time.</p>
<p>Forming good habits is one thing. But swearing off a $2 coffee only to drop $1000 on plane tickets or $200 on a weekend in the city kind of defeats the purpose.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/02/12/one-step-isnt-a-journey/#comment-519000</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 06:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I do not like to hear when people say that small steps are inconsequential and make no difference.  To me, it is like you mentioned - many small steps add up to a larger collective action.

In many cases, the thinking that the talk show host was portraying is why it is sometimes difficult to achieve large-scale change in society.  Just take CFLs for example - yes, changing one light bulb doesn&#039;t seem to make much difference, but when every household in the nation does so, then that&#039;s a major difference!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not like to hear when people say that small steps are inconsequential and make no difference.  To me, it is like you mentioned &#8211; many small steps add up to a larger collective action.</p>
<p>In many cases, the thinking that the talk show host was portraying is why it is sometimes difficult to achieve large-scale change in society.  Just take CFLs for example &#8211; yes, changing one light bulb doesn&#8217;t seem to make much difference, but when every household in the nation does so, then that&#8217;s a major difference!</p>
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		<title>By: MLP</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/02/12/one-step-isnt-a-journey/#comment-518779</link>
		<dc:creator>MLP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 02:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would agree that both are important.  Mainly because of pyschological reasons.  It is hard to be money conscious and spend a little more on small items b/c you do spend on little things much more OFTEN than on large items.  Life is about BALANCE. Good post.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would agree that both are important.  Mainly because of pyschological reasons.  It is hard to be money conscious and spend a little more on small items b/c you do spend on little things much more OFTEN than on large items.  Life is about BALANCE. Good post.</p>
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		<title>By: Des</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/02/12/one-step-isnt-a-journey/#comment-518609</link>
		<dc:creator>Des</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 00:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Saver Queen (#32)

“But just because you take the big steps, why ignore the little steps? ”

The question becomes: how “little” of a little step is still worth it? Is it worth it to wash and re-use baggies? For some people maybe, for others not so much.

Trent’s article the other day hit on this same point (see The End Is The Beginning).

Yes, little things add up. But the question is to how much and is it worth the effort. $27,000.00 of today’s dollars will be worth just shy of $10,000 in 35 years. Is it worth giving up 35 years of lattes for an extra $10,000.00 when you retire? To some, yes. To others, maybe not. That’s not a bad decision, its just a personal preference (assuming you’re otherwise financially solvent).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Saver Queen (#32)</p>
<p>“But just because you take the big steps, why ignore the little steps? ”</p>
<p>The question becomes: how “little” of a little step is still worth it? Is it worth it to wash and re-use baggies? For some people maybe, for others not so much.</p>
<p>Trent’s article the other day hit on this same point (see The End Is The Beginning).</p>
<p>Yes, little things add up. But the question is to how much and is it worth the effort. $27,000.00 of today’s dollars will be worth just shy of $10,000 in 35 years. Is it worth giving up 35 years of lattes for an extra $10,000.00 when you retire? To some, yes. To others, maybe not. That’s not a bad decision, its just a personal preference (assuming you’re otherwise financially solvent).</p>
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		<title>By: Des</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/02/12/one-step-isnt-a-journey/#comment-518607</link>
		<dc:creator>Des</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 00:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Saver Queen (#32)

&quot;But just because you take the big steps, why ignore the little steps? &quot;

The question becomes: how &quot;little&quot; of a little step is still worth it? Is it worth it to wash and re-use baggies? For some people maybe, for others not so much. 

Trent&#039;s article the other day hit on this same point (http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/02/06/the-end-is-the-beginning/). 

Yes, little things add up. But the question is to how much and is it worth the effort. $27,000.00 of today&#039;s dollars will be worth just shy of $10,000 in 35 years. Is it worth giving up 35 years of lattes for an extra $10,000.00 when you retire? To some, yes. To others, maybe not. That&#039;s not a bad decision, its just a personal preference (assuming you&#039;re otherwise financially solvent).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Saver Queen (#32)</p>
<p>&#8220;But just because you take the big steps, why ignore the little steps? &#8221;</p>
<p>The question becomes: how &#8220;little&#8221; of a little step is still worth it? Is it worth it to wash and re-use baggies? For some people maybe, for others not so much. </p>
<p>Trent&#8217;s article the other day hit on this same point (<a href="http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/02/06/the-end-is-the-beginning/" rel="nofollow">http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/02/06/the-end-is-the-beginning/</a>). </p>
<p>Yes, little things add up. But the question is to how much and is it worth the effort. $27,000.00 of today&#8217;s dollars will be worth just shy of $10,000 in 35 years. Is it worth giving up 35 years of lattes for an extra $10,000.00 when you retire? To some, yes. To others, maybe not. That&#8217;s not a bad decision, its just a personal preference (assuming you&#8217;re otherwise financially solvent).</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/02/12/one-step-isnt-a-journey/#comment-518422</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 21:52:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@#30, 31, and 33

1)  I live in north central Kansas.  Everything is cheap here, although people are paid less, too.

2)  I&#039;ve never been to Seattle.

3)  But I have been to Toronto and I had the best latte of my life there.  A little place that specialized in lattes with nice wooden benches outside just down the hill a bit from the gay neighborhood.  God, it was worth it.

Moral of the story:  Live in Kansas, but vacation in Toronto (or NYC or maybe Seattle next).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@#30, 31, and 33</p>
<p>1)  I live in north central Kansas.  Everything is cheap here, although people are paid less, too.</p>
<p>2)  I&#8217;ve never been to Seattle.</p>
<p>3)  But I have been to Toronto and I had the best latte of my life there.  A little place that specialized in lattes with nice wooden benches outside just down the hill a bit from the gay neighborhood.  God, it was worth it.</p>
<p>Moral of the story:  Live in Kansas, but vacation in Toronto (or NYC or maybe Seattle next).</p>
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		<title>By: Do You Dave Ramsey?</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/02/12/one-step-isnt-a-journey/#comment-518231</link>
		<dc:creator>Do You Dave Ramsey?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 17:54:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good article... I find myself at once agreeing and disagreeing which I thing is inspiring.  I&#039;m a huge Cowherd fan and I think I heard part of that rant.  I agree that all steps forward are positive steps, however, not all steps are created equal.  For example, I&#039;d make more progress selling 30 jet skis rather than forgoing 30 lattes.  It makes the think of the parable about helping someone with a speck in their eye when there&#039;s a log in your own.  There&#039;s a Japanese continous improvement term - pokey-okay is the English numonic.  It talks about impacting the next barrier to our improvement.  For example, I&#039;ll priorize the jetski today and on day 30 I&#039;ll get to the coffee downsize.
I guess I&#039;m trying to land where both ideas are on target and in this way it does come to priorizations.  Jean Chatzkey&#039;s $10 a day is good advice but its value truely blossoms over an extended period of time.  Sometimes a &#039;NOW&#039; solution is required.
Hey, I didn&#039;t mean to carry on for so long... sign of a thought provoking article!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article&#8230; I find myself at once agreeing and disagreeing which I thing is inspiring.  I&#8217;m a huge Cowherd fan and I think I heard part of that rant.  I agree that all steps forward are positive steps, however, not all steps are created equal.  For example, I&#8217;d make more progress selling 30 jet skis rather than forgoing 30 lattes.  It makes the think of the parable about helping someone with a speck in their eye when there&#8217;s a log in your own.  There&#8217;s a Japanese continous improvement term &#8211; pokey-okay is the English numonic.  It talks about impacting the next barrier to our improvement.  For example, I&#8217;ll priorize the jetski today and on day 30 I&#8217;ll get to the coffee downsize.<br />
I guess I&#8217;m trying to land where both ideas are on target and in this way it does come to priorizations.  Jean Chatzkey&#8217;s $10 a day is good advice but its value truely blossoms over an extended period of time.  Sometimes a &#8216;NOW&#8217; solution is required.<br />
Hey, I didn&#8217;t mean to carry on for so long&#8230; sign of a thought provoking article!</p>
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		<title>By: Anessa</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/02/12/one-step-isnt-a-journey/#comment-517735</link>
		<dc:creator>Anessa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 10:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I also agree with you Trent.  I look at money in a similar way I look at weight loss.  If you want to loose 25 pounds in 5 minutes cut off your leg. Problem solved.  If your willing to wait and work slowly toward your goal with less injury to yourself and a more customized fit, cut off the trips for lattes and useless sale items.

In life we could use a hatchet or we could use a scalpel.  I like the scalpel for almost everything.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also agree with you Trent.  I look at money in a similar way I look at weight loss.  If you want to loose 25 pounds in 5 minutes cut off your leg. Problem solved.  If your willing to wait and work slowly toward your goal with less injury to yourself and a more customized fit, cut off the trips for lattes and useless sale items.</p>
<p>In life we could use a hatchet or we could use a scalpel.  I like the scalpel for almost everything.</p>
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		<title>By: collin</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/02/12/one-step-isnt-a-journey/#comment-517349</link>
		<dc:creator>collin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 03:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve sold the toys,and bigger amounts garnered from those sales, are sweet, but they don&#039;t seem to make the difference long term, that frugal habits do. In the long run without the frugal habits trouble always comes back , even after selling the toys.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve sold the toys,and bigger amounts garnered from those sales, are sweet, but they don&#8217;t seem to make the difference long term, that frugal habits do. In the long run without the frugal habits trouble always comes back , even after selling the toys.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve@hundredgoals.com</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/02/12/one-step-isnt-a-journey/#comment-516963</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve@hundredgoals.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 22:35:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great post Trent.  One of your better ones recently!  I love the analogy of running the marathon.  The goal is the same no matter how you chose to get there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post Trent.  One of your better ones recently!  I love the analogy of running the marathon.  The goal is the same no matter how you chose to get there.</p>
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		<title>By: Kandace</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/02/12/one-step-isnt-a-journey/#comment-516896</link>
		<dc:creator>Kandace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 21:29:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d like to stretch your marathon analogy a bit.  I&#039;ve completed several marathons and it takes daily training to get to the point you can actually run the event.  So the small changes--lattes, no land line, brown bagging, ditching the jet ski--are all the small steps, the daily training that gives you the strength for the actual marathon.  Perhaps that is retirement itself--seeing how far you can push yourself and finding out if your training paid off.  Of course, once you get the marathon, that&#039;s where the real mental game comes in.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to stretch your marathon analogy a bit.  I&#8217;ve completed several marathons and it takes daily training to get to the point you can actually run the event.  So the small changes&#8211;lattes, no land line, brown bagging, ditching the jet ski&#8211;are all the small steps, the daily training that gives you the strength for the actual marathon.  Perhaps that is retirement itself&#8211;seeing how far you can push yourself and finding out if your training paid off.  Of course, once you get the marathon, that&#8217;s where the real mental game comes in.</p>
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		<title>By: Saver Queen</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/02/12/one-step-isnt-a-journey/#comment-516854</link>
		<dc:creator>Saver Queen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 20:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Valerie - excellent point.  Some of us don&#039;t have jet skiis or elaborate items to sell... we have to look for other places to cut back.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Valerie &#8211; excellent point.  Some of us don&#8217;t have jet skiis or elaborate items to sell&#8230; we have to look for other places to cut back.</p>
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		<title>By: Saver Queen</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/02/12/one-step-isnt-a-journey/#comment-516853</link>
		<dc:creator>Saver Queen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 20:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Andy - I&#039;m not sure where you live but in Toronto EVERYONE drinks $5 lattes or mochas or whatever they want at Starbucks, often more than once a day.

But even drinking a $3.50 coffee a day adds up!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Andy &#8211; I&#8217;m not sure where you live but in Toronto EVERYONE drinks $5 lattes or mochas or whatever they want at Starbucks, often more than once a day.</p>
<p>But even drinking a $3.50 coffee a day adds up!</p>
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		<title>By: Saver Queen</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/02/12/one-step-isnt-a-journey/#comment-516852</link>
		<dc:creator>Saver Queen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 20:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Trent, you&#039;ve tackled this question really well.  It&#039;s something I ask myself a lot - are all these little thing I&#039;m doing really that important - is it worth it?  

My conclusion is that, while these &quot;little steps&quot; will not see a big instantaneous return on our daily frugal investments, they do certainly add up.

When trying to save, consider the big steps and little steps. 

As far as the big steps - if you can save on your mortgage, your interest payments, your insurance, if you can get a raise, get a higher paying job, cut costs on your car, your home or your bills - do it.  

But just because you take the big steps, why ignore the little steps?  They do add up.  Like todo es bien says - we&#039;re really talking about $27,000 - and that&#039;s just for coffee!  What if you were also frugal with your lunch, your grocery bill, your electric bill, your spending habits on clothes, books, electronics and toys? We&#039;re talking about big numbers.  In fact, if someone were to compare the difference between investing the price of a coffee every day into a savings account, vs selling that jet ski and investing the profits, the non-coffee drinker would be financially ahead - AND he&#039;d still get to enjoy his jet ski.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trent, you&#8217;ve tackled this question really well.  It&#8217;s something I ask myself a lot &#8211; are all these little thing I&#8217;m doing really that important &#8211; is it worth it?  </p>
<p>My conclusion is that, while these &#8220;little steps&#8221; will not see a big instantaneous return on our daily frugal investments, they do certainly add up.</p>
<p>When trying to save, consider the big steps and little steps. </p>
<p>As far as the big steps &#8211; if you can save on your mortgage, your interest payments, your insurance, if you can get a raise, get a higher paying job, cut costs on your car, your home or your bills &#8211; do it.  </p>
<p>But just because you take the big steps, why ignore the little steps?  They do add up.  Like todo es bien says &#8211; we&#8217;re really talking about $27,000 &#8211; and that&#8217;s just for coffee!  What if you were also frugal with your lunch, your grocery bill, your electric bill, your spending habits on clothes, books, electronics and toys? We&#8217;re talking about big numbers.  In fact, if someone were to compare the difference between investing the price of a coffee every day into a savings account, vs selling that jet ski and investing the profits, the non-coffee drinker would be financially ahead &#8211; AND he&#8217;d still get to enjoy his jet ski.</p>
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		<title>By: Cathy</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/02/12/one-step-isnt-a-journey/#comment-516839</link>
		<dc:creator>Cathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 20:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Andy #26: Who buys $5 lattes every day?  People who live in Seattle.  :)

I opt for the company coffee myself.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Andy #26: Who buys $5 lattes every day?  People who live in Seattle.  :)</p>
<p>I opt for the company coffee myself.</p>
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		<title>By: NYC reader</title>
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		<dc:creator>NYC reader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 20:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Andy

In Manhattan, lattes are about $4.30, plus tax.  Throw the change into the tip jar for the barrista (you do tip, don&#039;t you?), and it&#039;s $5.  I know plenty of folks who do this at least daily, some more than once a day.

Prices and expenditures are relative.  Here are some examples from my neighborhood, a decent area, not some high-priced trendy area... Movies: $13 or $13.50.  Rent on a studio apt: $2200.  Buying a studio apt co-op: $400,000.  Almost no one owns a car, it&#039;s unnecessary in a city with great 24-hour public transportation and expensive parking ($400-$800/month).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Andy</p>
<p>In Manhattan, lattes are about $4.30, plus tax.  Throw the change into the tip jar for the barrista (you do tip, don&#8217;t you?), and it&#8217;s $5.  I know plenty of folks who do this at least daily, some more than once a day.</p>
<p>Prices and expenditures are relative.  Here are some examples from my neighborhood, a decent area, not some high-priced trendy area&#8230; Movies: $13 or $13.50.  Rent on a studio apt: $2200.  Buying a studio apt co-op: $400,000.  Almost no one owns a car, it&#8217;s unnecessary in a city with great 24-hour public transportation and expensive parking ($400-$800/month).</p>
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		<title>By: todo es bien</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/02/12/one-step-isnt-a-journey/#comment-516789</link>
		<dc:creator>todo es bien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 19:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, not to belabor the point. But if Cowherd said this he was just being silly. To wit, if you were to bank a dollar a day for 35 years, and your   investment was to increase @ 4% over the rate of inflation, the value of your investment in 35 years would be over 27,000. I realize for a person like Kevin Cowherd that is not a large sum of money, but I bet you the average person facing retirement right now would be grateful for an extra 27,000 bucks. Save 10 bucks a day (doable for most, not all) and you would walk out with a higher net worth than many many people who are retiring right now... Cutting it a little closer to home, I just calculated if I give up my daily latte I will have an extra 20 thousand when I retire in 13 years. That is enough to take a pretty damn nice trip around the world and then some...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, not to belabor the point. But if Cowherd said this he was just being silly. To wit, if you were to bank a dollar a day for 35 years, and your   investment was to increase @ 4% over the rate of inflation, the value of your investment in 35 years would be over 27,000. I realize for a person like Kevin Cowherd that is not a large sum of money, but I bet you the average person facing retirement right now would be grateful for an extra 27,000 bucks. Save 10 bucks a day (doable for most, not all) and you would walk out with a higher net worth than many many people who are retiring right now&#8230; Cutting it a little closer to home, I just calculated if I give up my daily latte I will have an extra 20 thousand when I retire in 13 years. That is enough to take a pretty damn nice trip around the world and then some&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: NYC reader</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/02/12/one-step-isnt-a-journey/#comment-516781</link>
		<dc:creator>NYC reader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 19:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s only $30/month, $360/year.  That&#039;s the rationalization many folks (including myself) use to justify unmindful spending.  Money spent unmindfully simply leaks out of one&#039;s budget, and it is worthwhile to evaluate these expenditures with an eye toward stanching the budget bleeding.

I changed my mindfulness of these purchases when I calculated how much I would have to invest and save to equal a post-tax return equal to the expense vs. simply not spending this money in the first place.

Let&#039;s take the $30/month, $360/year coffee habit as an example.

If I could get a one-year CD at 4% interest, how much would I have to invest to come home with $360 after taxes?

If this were a tax-free return, I would need to invest $9000 in a one-year CD paying 4% to get $360 at the end of the year.

But this is real-world, I have to pay taxes on the interest earned by that CD.  I live in NYC, there&#039;s a state and local income tax, in addition to federal income tax.

Based on my marginal tax rates, I get to keep about 67% of the interest earned after paying taxes.  That means I would need to receive interest of $537.31 before taxes to come home with $360 after taxes ($537.31 * 0.67 = $360).  To receive $537.31 in interest, I would need to invest $13432.84 in a one-year CD paying 4% ($13432.84 * 0.04 = $537.31).

So you tell me, which is easier?  Cutting out a few coffees, or saving up over $13000 and losing use of it for one year to come home with $360?

Nevermind that it&#039;s practically impossible to find a one-year CD paying 4%.

Once I started evaluating my discretionary purchases this way, it became really easy to cut out the fluff.  

When I do spend money on purely discretionary expenses (night out with friends at the local sports pub, a new computer doodad, etc.) it&#039;s made with full knowledge and mindfulness, and most importantly, WITH LIMITS.  I allocate $X in my budget for this, and if I decide I want to spend the money, I do.  If I decide I&#039;d rather invest it, or save it for something else, that&#039;s also an option.  I have CONTROL.  What I no longer have are mystery shortfalls in my budget (&quot;Gee, I took $200 out of the ATM last week, how come I have no money in my pocket?&quot;).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s only $30/month, $360/year.  That&#8217;s the rationalization many folks (including myself) use to justify unmindful spending.  Money spent unmindfully simply leaks out of one&#8217;s budget, and it is worthwhile to evaluate these expenditures with an eye toward stanching the budget bleeding.</p>
<p>I changed my mindfulness of these purchases when I calculated how much I would have to invest and save to equal a post-tax return equal to the expense vs. simply not spending this money in the first place.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s take the $30/month, $360/year coffee habit as an example.</p>
<p>If I could get a one-year CD at 4% interest, how much would I have to invest to come home with $360 after taxes?</p>
<p>If this were a tax-free return, I would need to invest $9000 in a one-year CD paying 4% to get $360 at the end of the year.</p>
<p>But this is real-world, I have to pay taxes on the interest earned by that CD.  I live in NYC, there&#8217;s a state and local income tax, in addition to federal income tax.</p>
<p>Based on my marginal tax rates, I get to keep about 67% of the interest earned after paying taxes.  That means I would need to receive interest of $537.31 before taxes to come home with $360 after taxes ($537.31 * 0.67 = $360).  To receive $537.31 in interest, I would need to invest $13432.84 in a one-year CD paying 4% ($13432.84 * 0.04 = $537.31).</p>
<p>So you tell me, which is easier?  Cutting out a few coffees, or saving up over $13000 and losing use of it for one year to come home with $360?</p>
<p>Nevermind that it&#8217;s practically impossible to find a one-year CD paying 4%.</p>
<p>Once I started evaluating my discretionary purchases this way, it became really easy to cut out the fluff.  </p>
<p>When I do spend money on purely discretionary expenses (night out with friends at the local sports pub, a new computer doodad, etc.) it&#8217;s made with full knowledge and mindfulness, and most importantly, WITH LIMITS.  I allocate $X in my budget for this, and if I decide I want to spend the money, I do.  If I decide I&#8217;d rather invest it, or save it for something else, that&#8217;s also an option.  I have CONTROL.  What I no longer have are mystery shortfalls in my budget (&#8220;Gee, I took $200 out of the ATM last week, how come I have no money in my pocket?&#8221;).</p>
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		<title>By: Des</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/02/12/one-step-isnt-a-journey/#comment-516770</link>
		<dc:creator>Des</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 19:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think this is a perspective issue. If you&#039;re trying to live below your means on $12,000 a year, it makes a lot of sense to cut out a daily latte. If, however, you&#039;re still living paycheck to paycheck on $100,000 a year, you have much bigger fish to fry than the latte. That money is going SOMEWHERE besides the coffee, and it will payoff more to find out what those expenses are and cut them than to focus on the smaller issues.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is a perspective issue. If you&#8217;re trying to live below your means on $12,000 a year, it makes a lot of sense to cut out a daily latte. If, however, you&#8217;re still living paycheck to paycheck on $100,000 a year, you have much bigger fish to fry than the latte. That money is going SOMEWHERE besides the coffee, and it will payoff more to find out what those expenses are and cut them than to focus on the smaller issues.</p>
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