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		<title>By: Adrian</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/03/18/self-reliance/comment-page-2/#comment-634907</link>
		<dc:creator>Adrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 22:28:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting read.  Thanks.</description>
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		<title>By: Sharon</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/03/18/self-reliance/comment-page-2/#comment-585726</link>
		<dc:creator>Sharon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 06:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Nick. Didn&#039;t know that about using a scythe. Here&#039;s to exercise! Just don&#039;t cut yourself! 
Sharon, the klutz</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Nick. Didn&#8217;t know that about using a scythe. Here&#8217;s to exercise! Just don&#8217;t cut yourself!<br />
Sharon, the klutz</p>
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		<title>By: SLVBug</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/03/18/self-reliance/comment-page-2/#comment-585160</link>
		<dc:creator>SLVBug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 22:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A few commentators got. As Lenore, Emerson&#039;s work has had a profound effect on my brain (Thoreau is cool too, but just a bit too hippy for me!). 

It&#039;s interesting that &quot;self-reliance&quot;, on the whole, is interpreted with context to only the materialistic. &quot;Save your money! Learn to fix it/build it yourself!&quot; That&#039;s great, but why would I want to save more of something that is well on it&#039;s way to becoming worthless (the US$)? It might have proven worthy in 1909 when a dollar was still worth a dollar, but in 2009 a dollar is worth about $0.05. Here&#039;s my nickel Mr. Plumber, fix my toilet!

But more than that, what of self-reliance in terms of thought, spirituality, governance, community, law, etc. etc.? 

Take a look around at what is happening in America right now (BTW, I&#039;m not American). It&#039;s citizens are being (and have been for the last 25 years) lied to and robbed from on a massive never-before scale. And...no-one is doing a thing about it. Not one protest, not one march, not one walk-out, not one staged event -- nothing. 

The people of Iceland overthrew their government with constant protests of a mere 10-30,000 people. In France, three MILLION (3,000,000!) people held a protest against their government&#039;s economic actions. In America...zero?

We are still reliant on self-serving politicians to make our important decisions. Re-read the first lines of the quote:

&quot;The civilized man has built a coach, but has lost the use of his feet. He is supported on crutches, but lacks so much support of the muscle.&quot; 
  
It will take generations to ween people off of the capitalist teet (whose motto is &quot;All for one and every man for himself!&quot;) and build our muscle as a people who choose our governance, instead of a people who need government. 

That&#039;s my nickel!

p.s. -- scything is best left to THE professional, Mr. Grim Reaper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few commentators got. As Lenore, Emerson&#8217;s work has had a profound effect on my brain (Thoreau is cool too, but just a bit too hippy for me!). </p>
<p>It&#8217;s interesting that &#8220;self-reliance&#8221;, on the whole, is interpreted with context to only the materialistic. &#8220;Save your money! Learn to fix it/build it yourself!&#8221; That&#8217;s great, but why would I want to save more of something that is well on it&#8217;s way to becoming worthless (the US$)? It might have proven worthy in 1909 when a dollar was still worth a dollar, but in 2009 a dollar is worth about $0.05. Here&#8217;s my nickel Mr. Plumber, fix my toilet!</p>
<p>But more than that, what of self-reliance in terms of thought, spirituality, governance, community, law, etc. etc.? </p>
<p>Take a look around at what is happening in America right now (BTW, I&#8217;m not American). It&#8217;s citizens are being (and have been for the last 25 years) lied to and robbed from on a massive never-before scale. And&#8230;no-one is doing a thing about it. Not one protest, not one march, not one walk-out, not one staged event &#8212; nothing. </p>
<p>The people of Iceland overthrew their government with constant protests of a mere 10-30,000 people. In France, three MILLION (3,000,000!) people held a protest against their government&#8217;s economic actions. In America&#8230;zero?</p>
<p>We are still reliant on self-serving politicians to make our important decisions. Re-read the first lines of the quote:</p>
<p>&#8220;The civilized man has built a coach, but has lost the use of his feet. He is supported on crutches, but lacks so much support of the muscle.&#8221; </p>
<p>It will take generations to ween people off of the capitalist teet (whose motto is &#8220;All for one and every man for himself!&#8221;) and build our muscle as a people who choose our governance, instead of a people who need government. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s my nickel!</p>
<p>p.s. &#8212; scything is best left to THE professional, Mr. Grim Reaper.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Wright</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick Wright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 22:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sharon, properly used, the movement for the scythe comes from the hips not the arms. ;;)</description>
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		<title>By: Sharon</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/03/18/self-reliance/comment-page-2/#comment-583466</link>
		<dc:creator>Sharon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 19:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mowing with a scythe is good exercise, but consider your rotator cuffs. If you wear them out or tear them in the process, the surgery is very expensive (my bills to insurance in the range of $25,000 without surgeon&#039;s fees) and your arm is out of commission for up to six months, three in a sling at the minimum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mowing with a scythe is good exercise, but consider your rotator cuffs. If you wear them out or tear them in the process, the surgery is very expensive (my bills to insurance in the range of $25,000 without surgeon&#8217;s fees) and your arm is out of commission for up to six months, three in a sling at the minimum.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicholas Barry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicholas Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 01:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to disagree with you, on two points.  (I wrote this before seeing that Johanna, Lis, and perhaps others afterward have made some similar points.)  I do agree that self-reliance is often valuable - I fix my own bike, repair my own computer, cook my own dinners, etc.  But with many skills, it is inefficient to try to do it yourself.  While some people enjoy sewing their own clothes, it is far better for the rest of us to rely on the clothing manufacturers to provide us inexpensive clothing.  It would be far more expensive to learn to make my own, since I could spend my time better by working at what I&#039;m already good at and earning money that way.  This the same reason I don&#039;t train to become a plumber, or an electrician - I could do it, but it would cost me more in opportunity cost than it was worth.  And does it really make sense to give up your watch and instead always rely on the sun for the time?  Self-reliance doesn&#039;t ALWAYS pay off, not by a long shot.
And second, many depending on other people is a way of relating to them socially.  My relationship with my girlfriend would be that much weaker if I refused to let her do anything for me.  She can sew, and I depend on her for that skill.  I depend on her for nutrition information, because that&#039;s her specialty.  I rely on her to remember all sorts of details that I know will be safe with her.  I also depend on her emotionally, of course.  That all strengthens our relationship.  Part of this dependence is me ceding control of things I used to handle on my own; another part of it is choosing to rely on her for things I couldn&#039;t do before - my dependence on her opens up my options, and widens my horizons, by giving me access to skills and knowledge I wouldn&#039;t have if I refused to be dependent on anyone.
I hope you understand that this is coming from someone who is MUCH MORE self-reliant than most of my friends - I&#039;m a total DIY guy - but I think you come across way too strongly in your unconditional praise for Emerson&#039;s message.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to disagree with you, on two points.  (I wrote this before seeing that Johanna, Lis, and perhaps others afterward have made some similar points.)  I do agree that self-reliance is often valuable &#8211; I fix my own bike, repair my own computer, cook my own dinners, etc.  But with many skills, it is inefficient to try to do it yourself.  While some people enjoy sewing their own clothes, it is far better for the rest of us to rely on the clothing manufacturers to provide us inexpensive clothing.  It would be far more expensive to learn to make my own, since I could spend my time better by working at what I&#8217;m already good at and earning money that way.  This the same reason I don&#8217;t train to become a plumber, or an electrician &#8211; I could do it, but it would cost me more in opportunity cost than it was worth.  And does it really make sense to give up your watch and instead always rely on the sun for the time?  Self-reliance doesn&#8217;t ALWAYS pay off, not by a long shot.<br />
And second, many depending on other people is a way of relating to them socially.  My relationship with my girlfriend would be that much weaker if I refused to let her do anything for me.  She can sew, and I depend on her for that skill.  I depend on her for nutrition information, because that&#8217;s her specialty.  I rely on her to remember all sorts of details that I know will be safe with her.  I also depend on her emotionally, of course.  That all strengthens our relationship.  Part of this dependence is me ceding control of things I used to handle on my own; another part of it is choosing to rely on her for things I couldn&#8217;t do before &#8211; my dependence on her opens up my options, and widens my horizons, by giving me access to skills and knowledge I wouldn&#8217;t have if I refused to be dependent on anyone.<br />
I hope you understand that this is coming from someone who is MUCH MORE self-reliant than most of my friends &#8211; I&#8217;m a total DIY guy &#8211; but I think you come across way too strongly in your unconditional praise for Emerson&#8217;s message.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 22:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my job, I had to memorize 8 very different routes for our lunchtime meal delivery service for the elderly in our county. I was training a new driver the other day, and suggested to him that he take good notes and pay close attention, as there are a lot of back country roads we drive to. He kept saying...don&#039;t worry, I have aGPS system that I&#039;ll use. So I let it go. (I&#039;ve never used the GPS, as I need to know in my head where to turn, where the tree or house to turn at is located, etc..) So, the day he went out by himself, he got very lost, as his GPS system failed, and it took him a long time to figure out where he was, and how to get to where he needed to go to for the next 10 deliveries.
I feel like people are not only losing the ability to do things like their own cooking or plumbing, but in many cases, we actively give it away to a machine. In some cases, it&#039;s ok, but I think we should give pause to new things as they come along.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my job, I had to memorize 8 very different routes for our lunchtime meal delivery service for the elderly in our county. I was training a new driver the other day, and suggested to him that he take good notes and pay close attention, as there are a lot of back country roads we drive to. He kept saying&#8230;don&#8217;t worry, I have aGPS system that I&#8217;ll use. So I let it go. (I&#8217;ve never used the GPS, as I need to know in my head where to turn, where the tree or house to turn at is located, etc..) So, the day he went out by himself, he got very lost, as his GPS system failed, and it took him a long time to figure out where he was, and how to get to where he needed to go to for the next 10 deliveries.<br />
I feel like people are not only losing the ability to do things like their own cooking or plumbing, but in many cases, we actively give it away to a machine. In some cases, it&#8217;s ok, but I think we should give pause to new things as they come along.</p>
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		<title>By: Paula</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paula</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 19:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In regards to comment #17:
&quot;... it actually costs you more to do the plumbing yourself even if the money you spend is less because in the same time you could be doing things you are more productive at (and getting a better return.&quot;

This may be true, but in some cases (like mine) you simply don&#039;t have the $300 to spend. I can read a book on plumbing from the library in the evening and work on installing my new faucet on a Saturday, saving the money I would have paid a plumber. It didn&#039;t cost me lost time from work (or time with my family since my son assisted me and we both learned). I have a new skill set that I can use over and over now. I got a repair done that I did not have the money to pay for and so would still be inconveniencing me if I had to go without. 

For those people who prefer not to spend their hard earned cash for a variety of reasons, do-it-yourself can be the answer. It&#039;s often ridiculously easy to do things like replace a faucet or fix a toilet - we just don&#039;t realize it yet. I can replace light switches and fixtures, do minor plumbing, paint my house, garden, cook excellent meals - all things that yes, I could pay someone else to do. But I&#039;d have to work a second job to be able to afford that. Doing it myself works for me, and I&#039;m careful to do a quality job. By the way, I&#039;m a 46 year old single mother and my sons think it&#039;s cool that their MOM can do all this stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In regards to comment #17:<br />
&#8220;&#8230; it actually costs you more to do the plumbing yourself even if the money you spend is less because in the same time you could be doing things you are more productive at (and getting a better return.&#8221;</p>
<p>This may be true, but in some cases (like mine) you simply don&#8217;t have the $300 to spend. I can read a book on plumbing from the library in the evening and work on installing my new faucet on a Saturday, saving the money I would have paid a plumber. It didn&#8217;t cost me lost time from work (or time with my family since my son assisted me and we both learned). I have a new skill set that I can use over and over now. I got a repair done that I did not have the money to pay for and so would still be inconveniencing me if I had to go without. </p>
<p>For those people who prefer not to spend their hard earned cash for a variety of reasons, do-it-yourself can be the answer. It&#8217;s often ridiculously easy to do things like replace a faucet or fix a toilet &#8211; we just don&#8217;t realize it yet. I can replace light switches and fixtures, do minor plumbing, paint my house, garden, cook excellent meals &#8211; all things that yes, I could pay someone else to do. But I&#8217;d have to work a second job to be able to afford that. Doing it myself works for me, and I&#8217;m careful to do a quality job. By the way, I&#8217;m a 46 year old single mother and my sons think it&#8217;s cool that their MOM can do all this stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 18:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh man, what a perfect post. I ceded control of the wireless router to my husband.  Today when it wasn&#039;t working and I needed to fix it.  Boy, I was mad.  Because now I have to call him, get a password, use his computer, use a wire, get another password.   

And about cars, they purposely make cars these days so you can&#039;t mess with them without screwing them up.  Its not like the 70&#039;s when even a girl like me could change my own oil, the filters, I was even known to work on the engine. No way would I do that today.  

As for sewing.  Cripes fabric and thread and time cost more than it does to go out and buy a shirt at target.  I think our society has made it difficult to do the things that we used to do for ourselves.  I can can fruit, but I can&#039;t find it fresh off the tree where I live.  I can fish, but there is no place around here that would support that.  I can even hunt. But wouldn&#039;t keep a gun here because of the kids.  
I personally have many useful skills but the time it takes to use those skills are used up at my day job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh man, what a perfect post. I ceded control of the wireless router to my husband.  Today when it wasn&#8217;t working and I needed to fix it.  Boy, I was mad.  Because now I have to call him, get a password, use his computer, use a wire, get another password.   </p>
<p>And about cars, they purposely make cars these days so you can&#8217;t mess with them without screwing them up.  Its not like the 70&#8217;s when even a girl like me could change my own oil, the filters, I was even known to work on the engine. No way would I do that today.  </p>
<p>As for sewing.  Cripes fabric and thread and time cost more than it does to go out and buy a shirt at target.  I think our society has made it difficult to do the things that we used to do for ourselves.  I can can fruit, but I can&#8217;t find it fresh off the tree where I live.  I can fish, but there is no place around here that would support that.  I can even hunt. But wouldn&#8217;t keep a gun here because of the kids.<br />
I personally have many useful skills but the time it takes to use those skills are used up at my day job.</p>
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		<title>By: Debbie M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Debbie M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 18:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Stephen F, for info on mowing with a scythe.  Google is our friend for this, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Stephen F, for info on mowing with a scythe.  Google is our friend for this, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Sally</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 18:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Sara about the folks extending this idea to completely facetious levels. LOL! I took moderation as being implicit in what Trent was saying - OF COURSE there are trade-offs, an economics of interdependence. So what? It&#039;s still a great blog post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Sara about the folks extending this idea to completely facetious levels. LOL! I took moderation as being implicit in what Trent was saying &#8211; OF COURSE there are trade-offs, an economics of interdependence. So what? It&#8217;s still a great blog post.</p>
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		<title>By: Carrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 17:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Socrates mentioned something like this once too, I believe: he said he never wrote anything down because then he wouldn&#039;t be forced to remember it, and thus the powers of his memory would degrade.

I&#039;m really not sure what the value in this (or in that Emerson paragraph you quoted) is.  So we write things down to make records of stuff--so what?  Then maybe that frees up our minds to remember things that are more important.  For things that are actually useful, like sewing, it is too bad that this generation hardly knows anything about it, which is why I&#039;m getting my mom to show me how, but for things like remembering the equinox?  Who cares?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Socrates mentioned something like this once too, I believe: he said he never wrote anything down because then he wouldn&#8217;t be forced to remember it, and thus the powers of his memory would degrade.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m really not sure what the value in this (or in that Emerson paragraph you quoted) is.  So we write things down to make records of stuff&#8211;so what?  Then maybe that frees up our minds to remember things that are more important.  For things that are actually useful, like sewing, it is too bad that this generation hardly knows anything about it, which is why I&#8217;m getting my mom to show me how, but for things like remembering the equinox?  Who cares?</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 17:15:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All things in moderation.   Self-reliance included.

If we take it too far to either extreme it wouldn&#039;t be good.  Doing everything yourself isn&#039;t very efficient but doing nothing for yourself is wasteful too.

Jim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All things in moderation.   Self-reliance included.</p>
<p>If we take it too far to either extreme it wouldn&#8217;t be good.  Doing everything yourself isn&#8217;t very efficient but doing nothing for yourself is wasteful too.</p>
<p>Jim</p>
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		<title>By: Stephan F-</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephan F-</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 17:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Debbie M - Mowing grass with a scythe is not hard. Getting a consistent height, that is really hard :) First make sure its really sharp, and keep the stone with you as you&#039;ll need to sharpen it every few strokes, depending on the temper of your blade. After grasping the handles strike a comfortably wide stance and stroke quickly enough to cut the grass and not tire you out before you get all the way across the yard.

Popcorn is better stir fried.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Debbie M &#8211; Mowing grass with a scythe is not hard. Getting a consistent height, that is really hard :) First make sure its really sharp, and keep the stone with you as you&#8217;ll need to sharpen it every few strokes, depending on the temper of your blade. After grasping the handles strike a comfortably wide stance and stroke quickly enough to cut the grass and not tire you out before you get all the way across the yard.</p>
<p>Popcorn is better stir fried.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray Sanchez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray Sanchez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Self-Reliance is what separates the truly successful from everyone else. It is a key component to some of the most wealthiest people in the world. :)</description>
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		<title>By: Debbie M</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/03/18/self-reliance/comment-page-1/#comment-581794</link>
		<dc:creator>Debbie M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At first I was going to write a comment like Johanna&#039;s, stressing that self-reliance doesn&#039;t always pay off.  But after reading the previous comments, I now want to stress that because we (Americans, anyway) tend to err in the direction of over-reliance on others, and to err very extremely in this direction, it is almost true that more self-reliance always pays off.

We are getting to the point where we know very little about how things work and where things come from, partly because we don&#039;t want to know, and so service people and manufacturers protect us.  Do you remember when you found out where meat came from?  And now if we want to know if something was grown without poisons or if the workers were treated humanely, it&#039;s very difficult to find out.

And we&#039;re getting so ignorant we don&#039;t even know what our choices are anymore.  I once taught someone that popcorn can be popped on the stove in a pan.  She&#039;d thought you needed a microwave.  And who knows what *I* don&#039;t know.  I learned another one today: You can mow grass with a scythe.  (Now I want to know how!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At first I was going to write a comment like Johanna&#8217;s, stressing that self-reliance doesn&#8217;t always pay off.  But after reading the previous comments, I now want to stress that because we (Americans, anyway) tend to err in the direction of over-reliance on others, and to err very extremely in this direction, it is almost true that more self-reliance always pays off.</p>
<p>We are getting to the point where we know very little about how things work and where things come from, partly because we don&#8217;t want to know, and so service people and manufacturers protect us.  Do you remember when you found out where meat came from?  And now if we want to know if something was grown without poisons or if the workers were treated humanely, it&#8217;s very difficult to find out.</p>
<p>And we&#8217;re getting so ignorant we don&#8217;t even know what our choices are anymore.  I once taught someone that popcorn can be popped on the stove in a pan.  She&#8217;d thought you needed a microwave.  And who knows what *I* don&#8217;t know.  I learned another one today: You can mow grass with a scythe.  (Now I want to know how!)</p>
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		<title>By: Becky</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/03/18/self-reliance/comment-page-1/#comment-581774</link>
		<dc:creator>Becky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 15:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oddly, I best learned this lesson from Ray Jardine&#039;s &quot;Beyond Backpacking.&quot; This book is ostensibly about lightweight long-distance hiking techniques. But along the way he talks about making your own gear, choosing certain types of foods for your trip, attitude, and many other things.

While Ray&#039;s hiking style isn&#039;t for everyone, reading his book and following much of its advice viscerally taught me so much. I experienced the value of practiced skills, and making and intimately knowing my own, simple gear rather than buying something fantastic (and expensive) made by a company for its value in keeping the company in business. My home-made lightweight backpack is not bombproof and covered with fifty straps, loops, and accessories like a top-of-the-line REI pack. But I&#039;m not carrying bombs or throwing my pack off cliffs. My pack is extremely light, works for what *I* take on my favorite kinds of trips, and since I made it, I know how it needs to be treated and how to repair it if anything breaks.

Since reading Ray&#039;s book about a decade ago, my family&#039;s motto has been &quot;skill, not stuff&quot; and the philosophy has extended into many areas of our lives. My husband built our (small, tailored to our needs) house himself; so when anything breaks, he knows exactly how to fix it. We prepare simple meals from scratch and we know exactly what we&#039;re eating. And on and on.

Mentors are everywhere. It&#039;s one of the beauties of life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oddly, I best learned this lesson from Ray Jardine&#8217;s &#8220;Beyond Backpacking.&#8221; This book is ostensibly about lightweight long-distance hiking techniques. But along the way he talks about making your own gear, choosing certain types of foods for your trip, attitude, and many other things.</p>
<p>While Ray&#8217;s hiking style isn&#8217;t for everyone, reading his book and following much of its advice viscerally taught me so much. I experienced the value of practiced skills, and making and intimately knowing my own, simple gear rather than buying something fantastic (and expensive) made by a company for its value in keeping the company in business. My home-made lightweight backpack is not bombproof and covered with fifty straps, loops, and accessories like a top-of-the-line REI pack. But I&#8217;m not carrying bombs or throwing my pack off cliffs. My pack is extremely light, works for what *I* take on my favorite kinds of trips, and since I made it, I know how it needs to be treated and how to repair it if anything breaks.</p>
<p>Since reading Ray&#8217;s book about a decade ago, my family&#8217;s motto has been &#8220;skill, not stuff&#8221; and the philosophy has extended into many areas of our lives. My husband built our (small, tailored to our needs) house himself; so when anything breaks, he knows exactly how to fix it. We prepare simple meals from scratch and we know exactly what we&#8217;re eating. And on and on.</p>
<p>Mentors are everywhere. It&#8217;s one of the beauties of life.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacinda</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/03/18/self-reliance/comment-page-1/#comment-581737</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacinda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 15:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice post Trent. In Character did an issue on Self-reliance a couple of years ago. The articles for it can be found online here and there&#039;s a reading list too: http://www.incharacter.org/toc.php?magazine=10

I like the idea of being self-reliant when I can be. I don&#039;t mind learning new skills since it&#039;s both challenging and rewarding, especially if it&#039;s a skill that can be used over and over again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post Trent. In Character did an issue on Self-reliance a couple of years ago. The articles for it can be found online here and there&#8217;s a reading list too: <a href="http://www.incharacter.org/toc.php?magazine=10" rel="nofollow">http://www.incharacter.org/toc.php?magazine=10</a></p>
<p>I like the idea of being self-reliant when I can be. I don&#8217;t mind learning new skills since it&#8217;s both challenging and rewarding, especially if it&#8217;s a skill that can be used over and over again.</p>
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		<title>By: CPA Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>CPA Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 14:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like learning how to do new things to challenge myself.  Self reliance isn&#039;t always necessary or a good thing, but having it means you have a choice.  Do I want to fix the plumbing myself or hire someone to do it?  To me that&#039;s control.

Self-reliance is somewhat harder in current times however, with increased government regulation.  I&#039;m thinking things like building codes, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like learning how to do new things to challenge myself.  Self reliance isn&#8217;t always necessary or a good thing, but having it means you have a choice.  Do I want to fix the plumbing myself or hire someone to do it?  To me that&#8217;s control.</p>
<p>Self-reliance is somewhat harder in current times however, with increased government regulation.  I&#8217;m thinking things like building codes, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: almost there</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/03/18/self-reliance/comment-page-1/#comment-581697</link>
		<dc:creator>almost there</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 14:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OOPS, That&#039;s &quot;110K Mile maintenance&quot;</description>
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