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	<title>Comments on: Help!  I Owe More On My Car Than It&#8217;s Worth!</title>
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		<title>By: danielle</title>
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		<dc:creator>danielle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 01:20:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>soooo in November of 2008 i bought a 2008 honda civic with 1200 miles on it. i bought it for 21k, and put down 7k. making my loan 14k.  high interest rate of 10% due to crap credit. then in may of 2009, i traded in the civic for 12k and bought a 2009 honda CRV. no money down and an interest rate of 9%.however, my loan went from 14k to 25k.  is there ANYTHING i can do to get myself out of this situation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>soooo in November of 2008 i bought a 2008 honda civic with 1200 miles on it. i bought it for 21k, and put down 7k. making my loan 14k.  high interest rate of 10% due to crap credit. then in may of 2009, i traded in the civic for 12k and bought a 2009 honda CRV. no money down and an interest rate of 9%.however, my loan went from 14k to 25k.  is there ANYTHING i can do to get myself out of this situation?</p>
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		<title>By: mbhunter</title>
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		<dc:creator>mbhunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 04:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not tough at all to owe more on your car than it&#039;s worth.  If you buy a new one with almost nothing down, it&#039;s upside-down the moment you drive it off the lot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not tough at all to owe more on your car than it&#8217;s worth.  If you buy a new one with almost nothing down, it&#8217;s upside-down the moment you drive it off the lot.</p>
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		<title>By: JT</title>
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		<dc:creator>JT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 16:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry there are no great options on dealing with the situation once you&#039;re in it.  But - learn a lesson from this and don&#039;t get yourself into this situation again.  If you&#039;re going to finance a car, make sure you put enough of a downpayment to protect you, and a short enough loan term (I think if it takes you more than 2 years to pay off a car, than you&#039;re buying too much car).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry there are no great options on dealing with the situation once you&#8217;re in it.  But &#8211; learn a lesson from this and don&#8217;t get yourself into this situation again.  If you&#8217;re going to finance a car, make sure you put enough of a downpayment to protect you, and a short enough loan term (I think if it takes you more than 2 years to pay off a car, than you&#8217;re buying too much car).</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 16:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kris, right, they still owe the balance.  But practically speaking it&#039;s going to be a write-off unless the cost of collecting is low enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kris, right, they still owe the balance.  But practically speaking it&#8217;s going to be a write-off unless the cost of collecting is low enough.</p>
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		<title>By: DDFD at DivorcedDadFrugalDad</title>
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		<dc:creator>DDFD at DivorcedDadFrugalDad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 23:47:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Warehousing the car may help-- no new mileage and keeping the condition can halp the value a bit . . . 

However, if you are deeply underwater only fully amortizing the loan (paying it off) will solve the problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Warehousing the car may help&#8211; no new mileage and keeping the condition can halp the value a bit . . . </p>
<p>However, if you are deeply underwater only fully amortizing the loan (paying it off) will solve the problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Marie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 21:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;DON’T TOTALLY DROP INSURANCE. If you have no coverage for a period of time you will have much higher premiums when you do get auto insurance again. This is just bad advice.&quot;

Not necessarily. The first policy will be higher, that is true. But, ask your agent to rewrite your policy upon renewal. You will have a history of having a policy at that point, and if you were a good driver during that time, you may find yourself with a better rate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;DON’T TOTALLY DROP INSURANCE. If you have no coverage for a period of time you will have much higher premiums when you do get auto insurance again. This is just bad advice.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not necessarily. The first policy will be higher, that is true. But, ask your agent to rewrite your policy upon renewal. You will have a history of having a policy at that point, and if you were a good driver during that time, you may find yourself with a better rate.</p>
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		<title>By: Marie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 21:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You want to make sure you start the car at least once a week. If you are able to back it up and down the driveway, that would be good also, especially for the tires. I can remember having square tires on a car that sat too long...oy!

Another option is that, if you are not driving the car too often, you may be able to switch to another kind of insurance plan which handles just driving occasionally for fun...forget what it&#039;s called. Talk to your agent. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You want to make sure you start the car at least once a week. If you are able to back it up and down the driveway, that would be good also, especially for the tires. I can remember having square tires on a car that sat too long&#8230;oy!</p>
<p>Another option is that, if you are not driving the car too often, you may be able to switch to another kind of insurance plan which handles just driving occasionally for fun&#8230;forget what it&#8217;s called. Talk to your agent. :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Kris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 15:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ My Journey - That is a great plan if you plan to be poor.  Why can&#039;t you drive your car for the next 10 - 15 years ( which should be well past the point of no more payments ).

@ Michael - what are Loan Loss provisions?  When my brother turned his car in, the bank sold it at a huge loss and then sued him for the difference.  So now he is paying for a car he hasn&#039;t owned in over 2 years.

Also, with a car loan you will be unable to drop insurance. If you do, the bank will take out insurance on the car and force you to pay for it and I can guarantee it will cost more than you are currently paying.  It is in every reputable car loan agreement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ My Journey &#8211; That is a great plan if you plan to be poor.  Why can&#8217;t you drive your car for the next 10 &#8211; 15 years ( which should be well past the point of no more payments ).</p>
<p>@ Michael &#8211; what are Loan Loss provisions?  When my brother turned his car in, the bank sold it at a huge loss and then sued him for the difference.  So now he is paying for a car he hasn&#8217;t owned in over 2 years.</p>
<p>Also, with a car loan you will be unable to drop insurance. If you do, the bank will take out insurance on the car and force you to pay for it and I can guarantee it will cost more than you are currently paying.  It is in every reputable car loan agreement.</p>
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		<title>By: Tawnya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tawnya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 14:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that it may not be such a good idea to drop the insurance. In my state, if your insurance lapses, your premium will be much higher next time you apply.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that it may not be such a good idea to drop the insurance. In my state, if your insurance lapses, your premium will be much higher next time you apply.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Lancaster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Lancaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 13:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m disappointed at the lack of correct information here. First of all, &quot;dropping insurance&quot; is bad advice. As part of any vehicle installment agreement, the borrower agrees to insure the vehicle. In fact, the lender requires periodic proof of insurance coverage as a condition of the loan. If you drop your insurance on your car, the lender has the right to either a) invalidate your loan agreement and demand the full balance and/or the vehicle or b) force-place insurance on the car and add it to your loan balance (this is the most likely course of action). Obviously, neither of these is a good option.

Second, there&#039;s a lot of misinformation floating around in the comments here. Repossession is the absolute worst thing you can do for your credit, and it will take the better part of a decade to recover. The lender isn&#039;t just going to &quot;absorb&quot; whatever loss they take on your car when they repossess it - the borrower is responsible for whatever the balance is between what was owed on the vehicle at the time and the repo and what the bank sold the car for at auction. 

If a person owes $10k and their vehicle is repo&#039;d and sold for $6k, the bank sends the borrower a bill for $4k (and there are no payment plans). If the borrower doesn&#039;t pay (and they never do), civil proceedings are begun. Most people end up with a judgment and wages are sometimes garnished.

By the way, you can guess what a repossession and a civil judgment will do to a person&#039;s credit score. In this credit climate, a repossession is the proverbial &quot;kiss of death.&quot; No one will offer you credit until a few years have gone by.

Repossession is NEVER an option - especially if your credit is in good standing.

Trent - Can I give you a guest post or something on this topic? I&#039;d be happy to give your readers a few options that haven&#039;t been discussed here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m disappointed at the lack of correct information here. First of all, &#8220;dropping insurance&#8221; is bad advice. As part of any vehicle installment agreement, the borrower agrees to insure the vehicle. In fact, the lender requires periodic proof of insurance coverage as a condition of the loan. If you drop your insurance on your car, the lender has the right to either a) invalidate your loan agreement and demand the full balance and/or the vehicle or b) force-place insurance on the car and add it to your loan balance (this is the most likely course of action). Obviously, neither of these is a good option.</p>
<p>Second, there&#8217;s a lot of misinformation floating around in the comments here. Repossession is the absolute worst thing you can do for your credit, and it will take the better part of a decade to recover. The lender isn&#8217;t just going to &#8220;absorb&#8221; whatever loss they take on your car when they repossess it &#8211; the borrower is responsible for whatever the balance is between what was owed on the vehicle at the time and the repo and what the bank sold the car for at auction. </p>
<p>If a person owes $10k and their vehicle is repo&#8217;d and sold for $6k, the bank sends the borrower a bill for $4k (and there are no payment plans). If the borrower doesn&#8217;t pay (and they never do), civil proceedings are begun. Most people end up with a judgment and wages are sometimes garnished.</p>
<p>By the way, you can guess what a repossession and a civil judgment will do to a person&#8217;s credit score. In this credit climate, a repossession is the proverbial &#8220;kiss of death.&#8221; No one will offer you credit until a few years have gone by.</p>
<p>Repossession is NEVER an option &#8211; especially if your credit is in good standing.</p>
<p>Trent &#8211; Can I give you a guest post or something on this topic? I&#8217;d be happy to give your readers a few options that haven&#8217;t been discussed here.</p>
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		<title>By: The DepressingTruth</title>
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		<dc:creator>The DepressingTruth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 01:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GROW UP...Continue to make the payments (and pay for the insurance coverage)

Quote:&quot;Bill its not about the image, its the fact that I am unlikely to own the car past the point with no payments, so I’d rather bail now.This is compounded with the 0% deals out there (I am paying 8.9%). So, in doing the math I can get a newer car paying zero interest for 5 years.&quot;

Why are you &quot;unlikely to own the car past the point with no payments&quot;?

Too many miles...it&#039;s going to &quot;wear out&quot; before the payments end? Your &quot;Lifestyle&quot; has changed? What? 

Do you think that after rolling your &quot;Negative Equity&quot; into the loan for the NEWER CAR (even @ 0% interest) you come out ahead?

Naw...in reality you are that much deeper into &quot;The Hole&quot; as far as equity. You would owe the cost of the NEWER CAR (which will loose 15 to 20% of the value/loan amount when you drive it &quot;off the lot&quot;)plus the amount that you had to add to your loan amount because you JUST HAD TO HAVE that NEW 2009 Zimbabwe Rhodesian Sport...

Do what ever you want (because you will anyway)

Invest in some &quot;Dave Ramsey&quot; Books...and write your poor choices in major purchases off as another learning experience.

On the other hand...It&#039;s &quot;PEOPLE LIKE YOU&quot; that keep our economy going...as the &quot;REST OF US&quot; wise up!

Go Get&#039;m Tiger!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GROW UP&#8230;Continue to make the payments (and pay for the insurance coverage)</p>
<p>Quote:&#8221;Bill its not about the image, its the fact that I am unlikely to own the car past the point with no payments, so I’d rather bail now.This is compounded with the 0% deals out there (I am paying 8.9%). So, in doing the math I can get a newer car paying zero interest for 5 years.&#8221;</p>
<p>Why are you &#8220;unlikely to own the car past the point with no payments&#8221;?</p>
<p>Too many miles&#8230;it&#8217;s going to &#8220;wear out&#8221; before the payments end? Your &#8220;Lifestyle&#8221; has changed? What? </p>
<p>Do you think that after rolling your &#8220;Negative Equity&#8221; into the loan for the NEWER CAR (even @ 0% interest) you come out ahead?</p>
<p>Naw&#8230;in reality you are that much deeper into &#8220;The Hole&#8221; as far as equity. You would owe the cost of the NEWER CAR (which will loose 15 to 20% of the value/loan amount when you drive it &#8220;off the lot&#8221;)plus the amount that you had to add to your loan amount because you JUST HAD TO HAVE that NEW 2009 Zimbabwe Rhodesian Sport&#8230;</p>
<p>Do what ever you want (because you will anyway)</p>
<p>Invest in some &#8220;Dave Ramsey&#8221; Books&#8230;and write your poor choices in major purchases off as another learning experience.</p>
<p>On the other hand&#8230;It&#8217;s &#8220;PEOPLE LIKE YOU&#8221; that keep our economy going&#8230;as the &#8220;REST OF US&#8221; wise up!</p>
<p>Go Get&#8217;m Tiger!</p>
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		<title>By: sm4k</title>
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		<dc:creator>sm4k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 22:09:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ #12

You&#039;re right, leaving a car sitting can have negative effects on a car.  The fuel can go bad in the tank, too.

If you decide to let a car sit, you should probably fire it up at least once a month and make sure everything is still in good working order.  I can&#039;t remember if it&#039;s better to leave it sitting with a full tank or with a low tank, so some research would be in order.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ #12</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right, leaving a car sitting can have negative effects on a car.  The fuel can go bad in the tank, too.</p>
<p>If you decide to let a car sit, you should probably fire it up at least once a month and make sure everything is still in good working order.  I can&#8217;t remember if it&#8217;s better to leave it sitting with a full tank or with a low tank, so some research would be in order.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill in Houston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill in Houston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 21:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Me, I&#039;m going to drive my Altima into the ground.</description>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 21:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think honest people honor their word.  If the auto loan contains provisions for repossession, then exercising the option of repossession is not dishonest.  The lender gets paid throughout the life of the loan to compensate it for the possibility that repossession might happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think honest people honor their word.  If the auto loan contains provisions for repossession, then exercising the option of repossession is not dishonest.  The lender gets paid throughout the life of the loan to compensate it for the possibility that repossession might happen.</p>
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		<title>By: My Journey</title>
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		<dc:creator>My Journey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 21:09:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill its not about the image, its the fact that I am unlikely to own the car past the point with no payments, so I&#039;d rather bail now.  This is compounded with the 0% deals out there (I am paying 8.9%).  So, in doing the math I can get a newer car paying zero interest for 5 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill its not about the image, its the fact that I am unlikely to own the car past the point with no payments, so I&#8217;d rather bail now.  This is compounded with the 0% deals out there (I am paying 8.9%).  So, in doing the math I can get a newer car paying zero interest for 5 years.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill in Houston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill in Houston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 20:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ My Journey (#13)

What&#039;s wrong with the car you have, dude? Your car does NOT define you. Pay it off. Are you prepared for higher insurance rates, too? You think it&#039;ll only be fifteen bucks more a month? Don&#039;t kid yourself. Don&#039;t buy into an image. No one who matters really cares if that car is a 2006 or a 2009.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ My Journey (#13)</p>
<p>What&#8217;s wrong with the car you have, dude? Your car does NOT define you. Pay it off. Are you prepared for higher insurance rates, too? You think it&#8217;ll only be fifteen bucks more a month? Don&#8217;t kid yourself. Don&#8217;t buy into an image. No one who matters really cares if that car is a 2006 or a 2009.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 19:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SteveJ, that&#039;s all correct.  The car is sold (at a loss of course as the loan is upside down), and the balance comes from loan loss provisions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SteveJ, that&#8217;s all correct.  The car is sold (at a loss of course as the loan is upside down), and the balance comes from loan loss provisions.</p>
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		<title>By: SteveJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>SteveJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 19:14:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Michael,

Just curious, what&#039;s the procedure on that?  Is the loan then written off?  It&#039;s still a default and a deficiency judgement, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Michael,</p>
<p>Just curious, what&#8217;s the procedure on that?  Is the loan then written off?  It&#8217;s still a default and a deficiency judgement, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 19:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kitty, I work in financial services.  Plenty of &quot;good loans&quot; (our way of saying honest people) are turning in their cars because they can&#039;t afford to make the payments.  They aren&#039;t waiting to fall behind and have the car forcefully taken from them.

Be thankful you have enough money to sit back and call people who lose their cars &quot;dishonest.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kitty, I work in financial services.  Plenty of &#8220;good loans&#8221; (our way of saying honest people) are turning in their cars because they can&#8217;t afford to make the payments.  They aren&#8217;t waiting to fall behind and have the car forcefully taken from them.</p>
<p>Be thankful you have enough money to sit back and call people who lose their cars &#8220;dishonest.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: SteveJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>SteveJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 18:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I cosigned on a loan got stuck with a car (72-month loan at that) when the buyer couldn&#039;t make payments.  In my more desperate moments I gave a lot of thought to selling my paid off car to cover the difference and immediately selling the lemon and then taking a small loan for a junker.

I&#039;ve also looked hard at those balance transfer offers, but I&#039;m afraid they&#039;ll change the terms and I&#039;ll be even further up a creek.  Debt vs debt doesn&#039;t seem like a sound strategy, even at 1/4th the interest.  Besides if you can&#039;t get a loan for the whole amount you&#039;re just stuck with an even larger payment until you pay off one of the loans.

Refinancing a used car is supposedly possible, but I haven&#039;t had any luck getting terms I&#039;d agree with, even with great credit.  The bank doesn&#039;t want to pay more than the car is worth either.  They&#039;ll give you a fine rate on a new car, but it seems like they want 4 points more for a used.

In the end I gave up sleep and picked up a side job to make the car payment.  Then my FIL needed a car and bought mine off of of me and that immediately went towards the loan.  It&#039;s been 2 years and I&#039;m not right side up yet, but I will be soon and I&#039;ll have the damn thing paid off by next year.  At which point I&#039;d like to set it on fire, but I guess I won&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cosigned on a loan got stuck with a car (72-month loan at that) when the buyer couldn&#8217;t make payments.  In my more desperate moments I gave a lot of thought to selling my paid off car to cover the difference and immediately selling the lemon and then taking a small loan for a junker.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve also looked hard at those balance transfer offers, but I&#8217;m afraid they&#8217;ll change the terms and I&#8217;ll be even further up a creek.  Debt vs debt doesn&#8217;t seem like a sound strategy, even at 1/4th the interest.  Besides if you can&#8217;t get a loan for the whole amount you&#8217;re just stuck with an even larger payment until you pay off one of the loans.</p>
<p>Refinancing a used car is supposedly possible, but I haven&#8217;t had any luck getting terms I&#8217;d agree with, even with great credit.  The bank doesn&#8217;t want to pay more than the car is worth either.  They&#8217;ll give you a fine rate on a new car, but it seems like they want 4 points more for a used.</p>
<p>In the end I gave up sleep and picked up a side job to make the car payment.  Then my FIL needed a car and bought mine off of of me and that immediately went towards the loan.  It&#8217;s been 2 years and I&#8217;m not right side up yet, but I will be soon and I&#8217;ll have the damn thing paid off by next year.  At which point I&#8217;d like to set it on fire, but I guess I won&#8217;t.</p>
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