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		<title>By: George</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/05/02/charting-personal-finance-progress-internally-and-externally/comment-page-1/#comment-650407</link>
		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 00:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ack!  I-bonds are now earning 0% since the 6-month inflation rate is -2.8%, so you&#039;d need a base rate of 5.6% to overcome that.  Kinda tough after having earned 5-6% in the prior 6 months.  Now we&#039;ll just have to wait until the rates reset again on November 1.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ack!  I-bonds are now earning 0% since the 6-month inflation rate is -2.8%, so you&#8217;d need a base rate of 5.6% to overcome that.  Kinda tough after having earned 5-6% in the prior 6 months.  Now we&#8217;ll just have to wait until the rates reset again on November 1.</p>
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		<title>By: shenz</title>
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		<dc:creator>shenz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 23:43:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting post - especially from someone like me who just recently decided to take control of personal finances.

I&#039;ve visited this website (blog) a couple of times in the past - and learned a lot from you, THANK YOU FOR THAT.

I must say the comments are very interesting too - and they all take VERY different angles throughout the article! (Human behavior and interaction is VERY mind boggling, and amazing!)

Anyway, one of the things that is frequently mentioned in mature personal finance blogs is that taking hold and controlling ones personal finances is a lengthy journey. You mentioned that the journey ends at some point - but does it really? 

Once the goal is met, doesn&#039;t the journey somehow evolve to something else?

P.S. Your kids are UBER cute! Please heed what Ms. Nancy said.

Thanks again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting post &#8211; especially from someone like me who just recently decided to take control of personal finances.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve visited this website (blog) a couple of times in the past &#8211; and learned a lot from you, THANK YOU FOR THAT.</p>
<p>I must say the comments are very interesting too &#8211; and they all take VERY different angles throughout the article! (Human behavior and interaction is VERY mind boggling, and amazing!)</p>
<p>Anyway, one of the things that is frequently mentioned in mature personal finance blogs is that taking hold and controlling ones personal finances is a lengthy journey. You mentioned that the journey ends at some point &#8211; but does it really? </p>
<p>Once the goal is met, doesn&#8217;t the journey somehow evolve to something else?</p>
<p>P.S. Your kids are UBER cute! Please heed what Ms. Nancy said.</p>
<p>Thanks again!</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
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		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 23:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speak of the devil, er, details, here are some real world examples from the Retire Early home page:
http://www.retireearlyhomepage.com/reallife09.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speak of the devil, er, details, here are some real world examples from the Retire Early home page:<br />
<a href="http://www.retireearlyhomepage.com/reallife09.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.retireearlyhomepage.com/reallife09.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
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		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 23:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to laugh at the chart of the future.  Yes, we&#039;d all like our own to show nice smooth progress, but the reality is that investment returns vary and our own expenses can vary.

For instance, a marriage or divorce or childbirth is likely to put a temporary dent in the upward trend.  There are also things like the investment capital is suddenly cut by 30-50% due to market conditions (e.g. November 2008 anyone?).

On the positive side, sometimes marriage or downsizing or a promotion will accelerate the curve.

In my own situation, I&#039;ve been charting the investments I control since 1993.  First house I bought was in 1997 and it took a good three years before the curve began accelerating upward again.  Marriage in 2001 was relatively benign to the finances, but we realized a bigger house was  needed in 2004 and again it took 3 years before the curve began accelerating upward again.

In hindsight, the move to a bigger house wasn&#039;t needed and we would have had the old house paid off already, but the lifestyle change has been welcome.  In terms of goals, I now realize I&#039;m trapped in my job for at least another 7 years in order to maximise retirement benefits... if we&#039;d been content to stay in the first home, I would not need to maximise those retirement benefits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to laugh at the chart of the future.  Yes, we&#8217;d all like our own to show nice smooth progress, but the reality is that investment returns vary and our own expenses can vary.</p>
<p>For instance, a marriage or divorce or childbirth is likely to put a temporary dent in the upward trend.  There are also things like the investment capital is suddenly cut by 30-50% due to market conditions (e.g. November 2008 anyone?).</p>
<p>On the positive side, sometimes marriage or downsizing or a promotion will accelerate the curve.</p>
<p>In my own situation, I&#8217;ve been charting the investments I control since 1993.  First house I bought was in 1997 and it took a good three years before the curve began accelerating upward again.  Marriage in 2001 was relatively benign to the finances, but we realized a bigger house was  needed in 2004 and again it took 3 years before the curve began accelerating upward again.</p>
<p>In hindsight, the move to a bigger house wasn&#8217;t needed and we would have had the old house paid off already, but the lifestyle change has been welcome.  In terms of goals, I now realize I&#8217;m trapped in my job for at least another 7 years in order to maximise retirement benefits&#8230; if we&#8217;d been content to stay in the first home, I would not need to maximise those retirement benefits.</p>
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		<title>By: cheap chick</title>
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		<dc:creator>cheap chick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 22:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to hate budgets too. But I also hated spending money I didn&#039;t have. I dumped my credit cards except for one for EMERGENCIES. Cash or debit card only now.

I also looked carefully at &quot;regular&quot; expenses and decided to dump my AT&amp;T phone for a prepaid phone. Got a Tracfone for 30 bucks but it was kinda-sorta free since it came with 30 bucks worth of air time.

Now I budget my phone use by buying the amount of time I want, up front. I also got a double minutes card which makes it an even better value.

There are some expenses that can be &quot;managed&quot; and those are the ones to budget.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to hate budgets too. But I also hated spending money I didn&#8217;t have. I dumped my credit cards except for one for EMERGENCIES. Cash or debit card only now.</p>
<p>I also looked carefully at &#8220;regular&#8221; expenses and decided to dump my AT&amp;T phone for a prepaid phone. Got a Tracfone for 30 bucks but it was kinda-sorta free since it came with 30 bucks worth of air time.</p>
<p>Now I budget my phone use by buying the amount of time I want, up front. I also got a double minutes card which makes it an even better value.</p>
<p>There are some expenses that can be &#8220;managed&#8221; and those are the ones to budget.</p>
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		<title>By: Nancy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nancy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 16:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trent,

Your kids are cute and those are cute pictures of both of them.  With that being said, you might want to think about not putting their pictures in the articles in the future. Unfortunately, we live in a society where children are not always safe from predators.  I live in California and the Sandra Cantu case just happened out here.   In that case it appears that it was someone she knew and should have been able to trust but that is not always the case.  Just some food for thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trent,</p>
<p>Your kids are cute and those are cute pictures of both of them.  With that being said, you might want to think about not putting their pictures in the articles in the future. Unfortunately, we live in a society where children are not always safe from predators.  I live in California and the Sandra Cantu case just happened out here.   In that case it appears that it was someone she knew and should have been able to trust but that is not always the case.  Just some food for thought.</p>
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		<title>By: Melody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 13:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, and so true. I just have to share I was cracking up when I read about you buying healthy foods for your kids (they eat those breakfast burritos I&#039;m sure, like mine does!) and then I download the pictures and your little girl is eating her birthday cake! LOL Not being a scrooge, I just thought it was funny. At least we know you&#039;re not a total granola-nut who had some vegetable cake made for your kid&#039;s birthday! LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, and so true. I just have to share I was cracking up when I read about you buying healthy foods for your kids (they eat those breakfast burritos I&#8217;m sure, like mine does!) and then I download the pictures and your little girl is eating her birthday cake! LOL Not being a scrooge, I just thought it was funny. At least we know you&#8217;re not a total granola-nut who had some vegetable cake made for your kid&#8217;s birthday! LOL</p>
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		<title>By: MoneyEnergy</title>
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		<dc:creator>MoneyEnergy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 06:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s awesome.... I love your children philosophy, buying them crayons and stuff... very important.  I agree that overall financial success is just a stepping stone to real, whole success... I guess the numbers make it easier to focus on, and of course it&#039;s so prominent in our daily lives....  your graph there makes me think I should try that very visual process like they do in fundraisers... maybe it would motivate me further or pull in some of that law of attraction!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s awesome&#8230;. I love your children philosophy, buying them crayons and stuff&#8230; very important.  I agree that overall financial success is just a stepping stone to real, whole success&#8230; I guess the numbers make it easier to focus on, and of course it&#8217;s so prominent in our daily lives&#8230;.  your graph there makes me think I should try that very visual process like they do in fundraisers&#8230; maybe it would motivate me further or pull in some of that law of attraction!</p>
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		<title>By: kristine</title>
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		<dc:creator>kristine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 03:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ad you have on your page :&quot;Google pays me 127 an hour&quot;... links to a scam- you have to buy their &quot;kit&quot;. It is hardsell nonsense. (Yes, I had to click and see what it was about.)

You lose credibility by having this ad on your page. I&#039;d rethink that decision. People trust you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ad you have on your page :&#8221;Google pays me 127 an hour&#8221;&#8230; links to a scam- you have to buy their &#8220;kit&#8221;. It is hardsell nonsense. (Yes, I had to click and see what it was about.)</p>
<p>You lose credibility by having this ad on your page. I&#8217;d rethink that decision. People trust you.</p>
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		<title>By: Drawing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drawing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 21:36:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really enjoyed your thoughts on personal finance!  I really liked how you said, “there is no one simple way to keep tabs on your money goals.”  This is so true.  We have to be actively participating in our financial goals to know where we are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really enjoyed your thoughts on personal finance!  I really liked how you said, “there is no one simple way to keep tabs on your money goals.”  This is so true.  We have to be actively participating in our financial goals to know where we are.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle Brooks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle Brooks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 19:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post!</description>
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		<title>By: Do You Dave Ramsey?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Do You Dave Ramsey?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 17:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, great looking kids too!</description>
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		<title>By: Do You Dave Ramsey?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Do You Dave Ramsey?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 17:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is interesting Trent... I think there are a couple meaty areas here for further exploration.

I think the level of our needs change or advance as we address each need.  Money to pay my current bills VS. money saved to pay several months worth of bills VS. planning for retirement.  Putting food on the table VS. putting high quality and healthy food on the table.  These are examples of this evolution and if the questions are becoming more complex then we&#039;re likely headed in the right direction.

On another plane there is the defining of goals and of success against those objectives.  This is a great line of discussion.  I recently wrapped up a 10 part series on goal setting.  I think we need to set goals across several facets of our lives and then work to achieve goals within each area.  This should provide the balance in our lives that we require.

Great stuff Trent and I appreciate you sharing!
Dave</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is interesting Trent&#8230; I think there are a couple meaty areas here for further exploration.</p>
<p>I think the level of our needs change or advance as we address each need.  Money to pay my current bills VS. money saved to pay several months worth of bills VS. planning for retirement.  Putting food on the table VS. putting high quality and healthy food on the table.  These are examples of this evolution and if the questions are becoming more complex then we&#8217;re likely headed in the right direction.</p>
<p>On another plane there is the defining of goals and of success against those objectives.  This is a great line of discussion.  I recently wrapped up a 10 part series on goal setting.  I think we need to set goals across several facets of our lives and then work to achieve goals within each area.  This should provide the balance in our lives that we require.</p>
<p>Great stuff Trent and I appreciate you sharing!<br />
Dave</p>
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		<title>By: Early Retirement Extreme</title>
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		<dc:creator>Early Retirement Extreme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 17:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think financial goals are only incident to greater goals like for instance you mention the health and security of your children, yet finance has taken such a dominant role in our society that having or earning a lot of money is a direct measure of how good you are as a person. In that sense financial tools are used as a feedback mechanism so you can correct your actions and try to do better. However, monetary achievement rarely correlates with, say, how brave a person is, how humble he is, or how good a dancer he is, say. These all have their own feedback tools.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think financial goals are only incident to greater goals like for instance you mention the health and security of your children, yet finance has taken such a dominant role in our society that having or earning a lot of money is a direct measure of how good you are as a person. In that sense financial tools are used as a feedback mechanism so you can correct your actions and try to do better. However, monetary achievement rarely correlates with, say, how brave a person is, how humble he is, or how good a dancer he is, say. These all have their own feedback tools.</p>
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		<title>By: Baker @ ManVsDebt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Baker @ ManVsDebt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 17:12:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really enjoy tracking our journey to financial independence, like you&#039;ve outlined in your previous post.

I do understand what you are saying here, though.  For example, the last $100 we take to pay the last of our debts is going to be a huge achievement.  It&#039;s going to mean much more than any other $100 bucks along the way.  It&#039;s good to take time to track these milestones, as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really enjoy tracking our journey to financial independence, like you&#8217;ve outlined in your previous post.</p>
<p>I do understand what you are saying here, though.  For example, the last $100 we take to pay the last of our debts is going to be a huge achievement.  It&#8217;s going to mean much more than any other $100 bucks along the way.  It&#8217;s good to take time to track these milestones, as well.</p>
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