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		<title>By: Skirnir Hamilton</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/05/13/some-thoughts-on-haggling/comment-page-2/#comment-911342</link>
		<dc:creator>Skirnir Hamilton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 May 2010 20:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, personally, I am not comfortable haggling.  I feel if I haggle that I am telling the person that they are charging too much.  By telling them that, I am telling them they are greedy and trying to rob me.  I have haggled a little at a rummage sale, because of how much money I had in my pocket and I knew if I went home I would not come back and buy the item.  But to this day, I wonder what that person thought of me.  So to those who do haggle, do it respectfully and not just because.  It is one thing to ask for a discount because the item is  damaged, but another to ask for one...  because one, the item is overpriced, or because you feel like it?  I don&#039;t mind haggling because you don&#039;t have the money as much though.  I know my twin who works at a chain drug store hates it when people want to haggle.  It can only be done by a manager and it just strikes her as rude.  And to be honest, it does me too.  I guess I will never become a haggler, as I am just not comfortable doing it.  If I am not willing to buy the item at the marked price, I just won&#039;t buy it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, personally, I am not comfortable haggling.  I feel if I haggle that I am telling the person that they are charging too much.  By telling them that, I am telling them they are greedy and trying to rob me.  I have haggled a little at a rummage sale, because of how much money I had in my pocket and I knew if I went home I would not come back and buy the item.  But to this day, I wonder what that person thought of me.  So to those who do haggle, do it respectfully and not just because.  It is one thing to ask for a discount because the item is  damaged, but another to ask for one&#8230;  because one, the item is overpriced, or because you feel like it?  I don&#8217;t mind haggling because you don&#8217;t have the money as much though.  I know my twin who works at a chain drug store hates it when people want to haggle.  It can only be done by a manager and it just strikes her as rude.  And to be honest, it does me too.  I guess I will never become a haggler, as I am just not comfortable doing it.  If I am not willing to buy the item at the marked price, I just won&#8217;t buy it.</p>
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		<title>By: deRuiter</title>
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		<dc:creator>deRuiter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 May 2010 10:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“If you feel the need to haggle for the item, why are you buying it at all?”  Oh Trent, I don&#039;t agree, you need a house or car, (buy, lease  or rent) and you negotiated a better deal.  I hope you didn&#039;t pay asking price for your new house or new car.  In big box stores if you&#039;re buying appliances, carpets, large ticket stuff, sheetrock, kitchen cabinets, ask for the department manager, tell him / her you&#039;re considering buying X and can they do any better?  You&#039;ll get an immediate offer of 10% off and most  likely you can counter with 15% or 20% discount and get that.  REMEMBER, THE SELLER CAN ALWAYS SAY &quot;NO.&quot;  But mostly they will give you a better price.  The economy&#039;s terrible, you are offering to do business, if the person wants your money they will negotiate.  Successful business get more trade by negotiating if people offer to negotiate.  Let me tell you, you can negotiate price at Tiffany&#039;s if you&#039;re buying an expensive item, you can negotiate with new or used car dealers, heavy equipment dealers, the farm animal feed store, yard sales, office supply stores, furniture stores, printers, grocery stores, any kind of business.  THE WORST THEY CAN SAY IS &quot;NO&quot; AND THEN YOU ARE PREPARED TO WALK.  If the person wants your business, they will haggle and lower the price.  Always find out who is empowered to make discounts and deal with them, don&#039;t hold up the line at the checkout haggling, go directly to the person with the power.  Most Americans are too shy to hondle (haggle), so they are taken to the cleaners when doing money for goods exchanges.  Don&#039;t let that be you!  At the end of the day of doing business, every extra dollar which stays in your pocket while you obtain the goods and services you require, is actually worth more than a buck because you&#039;d have to earn $1.50 to put a new dollar in your pocket.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“If you feel the need to haggle for the item, why are you buying it at all?”  Oh Trent, I don&#8217;t agree, you need a house or car, (buy, lease  or rent) and you negotiated a better deal.  I hope you didn&#8217;t pay asking price for your new house or new car.  In big box stores if you&#8217;re buying appliances, carpets, large ticket stuff, sheetrock, kitchen cabinets, ask for the department manager, tell him / her you&#8217;re considering buying X and can they do any better?  You&#8217;ll get an immediate offer of 10% off and most  likely you can counter with 15% or 20% discount and get that.  REMEMBER, THE SELLER CAN ALWAYS SAY &#8220;NO.&#8221;  But mostly they will give you a better price.  The economy&#8217;s terrible, you are offering to do business, if the person wants your money they will negotiate.  Successful business get more trade by negotiating if people offer to negotiate.  Let me tell you, you can negotiate price at Tiffany&#8217;s if you&#8217;re buying an expensive item, you can negotiate with new or used car dealers, heavy equipment dealers, the farm animal feed store, yard sales, office supply stores, furniture stores, printers, grocery stores, any kind of business.  THE WORST THEY CAN SAY IS &#8220;NO&#8221; AND THEN YOU ARE PREPARED TO WALK.  If the person wants your business, they will haggle and lower the price.  Always find out who is empowered to make discounts and deal with them, don&#8217;t hold up the line at the checkout haggling, go directly to the person with the power.  Most Americans are too shy to hondle (haggle), so they are taken to the cleaners when doing money for goods exchanges.  Don&#8217;t let that be you!  At the end of the day of doing business, every extra dollar which stays in your pocket while you obtain the goods and services you require, is actually worth more than a buck because you&#8217;d have to earn $1.50 to put a new dollar in your pocket.</p>
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		<title>By: Xtal</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/05/13/some-thoughts-on-haggling/comment-page-2/#comment-670343</link>
		<dc:creator>Xtal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 00:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Trent about the &quot;plastic doodads.&quot; They are killing the environment, not to mention wasting a resource that will one day be considered very valuable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Trent about the &#8220;plastic doodads.&#8221; They are killing the environment, not to mention wasting a resource that will one day be considered very valuable.</p>
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		<title>By: Johanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 14:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Terese, stef: Actually, since Trent makes money off this site, we&#039;re not so much guests in his home as we are customers in his place of business.  That changes the picture somewhat.  A certain level of civility is still called for, but criticism of the articles is absolutely appropriate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Terese, stef: Actually, since Trent makes money off this site, we&#8217;re not so much guests in his home as we are customers in his place of business.  That changes the picture somewhat.  A certain level of civility is still called for, but criticism of the articles is absolutely appropriate.</p>
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		<title>By: Bonni</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bonni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 16:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had never haggled much until I bought my first new car and for some reason felt very sure of myself that day.  The dealer didn&#039;t want to give me much on my trade in, which was not worth a ton but I knew they would clean it up and sell it for twice what I wanted.  I so stood firm and almost walked.  The dealer kept looking at my boyfriend like, jeez can&#039;t you control her.  Finally he came around.  My next real haggling experience came in India, where they really expect you to haggle.  The key is to name your price and walk away - trust me if they will call you back!  There are some fixed price stores there so be aware of that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had never haggled much until I bought my first new car and for some reason felt very sure of myself that day.  The dealer didn&#8217;t want to give me much on my trade in, which was not worth a ton but I knew they would clean it up and sell it for twice what I wanted.  I so stood firm and almost walked.  The dealer kept looking at my boyfriend like, jeez can&#8217;t you control her.  Finally he came around.  My next real haggling experience came in India, where they really expect you to haggle.  The key is to name your price and walk away &#8211; trust me if they will call you back!  There are some fixed price stores there so be aware of that.</p>
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		<title>By: DDFD at DivorcedDadFrugalDad</title>
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		<dc:creator>DDFD at DivorcedDadFrugalDad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 12:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great skills!  It never hurts to ask!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great skills!  It never hurts to ask!</p>
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		<title>By: stef</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/05/13/some-thoughts-on-haggling/comment-page-2/#comment-665358</link>
		<dc:creator>stef</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 18:42:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with Terese: you can choose to read this blog or not, but this is Trent&#039;s space on the web, and people should be respectful accordingly, whether you agree with him or not.

Ahem.

Something that I notice people haven&#039;t discussed haggling about: rent prices.  I&#039;ve successfully negotiated (or haggled, if you will) rent prices with landlords in the past. I&#039;m not sure if it would work with the big apartment complexes, as I don&#039;t usually choose to rent there, but it has certainly worked with landlords who own multi-family homes or smaller apartment buildings. 

A few years ago, I knew that I could only afford to pay about $375 in rent (I live in a city with a low cost of living), and I found a really great apartment that was for $395 that had been sitting open for 3 months. The landlord saved money by letting me rent it for $20 less, fitting my budget much more nicely, than what she would have if she would have let it stay unrented for another month (which would probably have ended up being longer).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with Terese: you can choose to read this blog or not, but this is Trent&#8217;s space on the web, and people should be respectful accordingly, whether you agree with him or not.</p>
<p>Ahem.</p>
<p>Something that I notice people haven&#8217;t discussed haggling about: rent prices.  I&#8217;ve successfully negotiated (or haggled, if you will) rent prices with landlords in the past. I&#8217;m not sure if it would work with the big apartment complexes, as I don&#8217;t usually choose to rent there, but it has certainly worked with landlords who own multi-family homes or smaller apartment buildings. </p>
<p>A few years ago, I knew that I could only afford to pay about $375 in rent (I live in a city with a low cost of living), and I found a really great apartment that was for $395 that had been sitting open for 3 months. The landlord saved money by letting me rent it for $20 less, fitting my budget much more nicely, than what she would have if she would have let it stay unrented for another month (which would probably have ended up being longer).</p>
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		<title>By: Terese</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 05:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reading through the comments, it&#039;s amazing to me how many people are being completely incivil to Trent. You&#039;re reading his free finance blog and if you have a problem with his tone, you could write him a private email, or say what you have to say tactfully. Calling him pompous or accusing him of not entertaining you enough is inappropriate. Think of yourselves as guests here, and then imagine how you would speak to a host.

I think of haggling as just one of many tools for getting the best price on something I am willing to buy anyway, or for upgrading a planned purchase for free. For example, when I got married, we bartered and negotiated because whatever we didn&#039;t spend, we kept, and because we wanted our wedding to be beautiful. We spent less than $10k on a wedding for 125 people, and our honeymoon. Our wedding looked like a $50,000 wedding, easily. I had people calling me for weeks to tell me it was the best food they had eaten in ages, at a wedding or anywhere else. We had a beautiful day and came in under budget, largely due to bartering and negotiating. 

Because my family lives in a very affluential area, if we had spent $10k on full price venues, food, etc. we would have been able to invite about 50 people or would have had to go super casual. Instead we had our food cooked by the former head chef of the Ritz-Carlton Chicago (family friend), had a famous DJ (hubby built him a website); a $700 cake + $2k videographer + $1k in rentals + $800 in flowers for about $1200 because of using trade scrip. I bought my corset and shoes new on eBay, borrowed votive holders from a cousin who had just married, used my mom&#039;s veil, had a friend make the veil clip from craft materials, made my own (gorgeous) invitations. It was a lot of work, but it was worth it; not only was our day beautiful, but I built up many of my frugal and organizational skills.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading through the comments, it&#8217;s amazing to me how many people are being completely incivil to Trent. You&#8217;re reading his free finance blog and if you have a problem with his tone, you could write him a private email, or say what you have to say tactfully. Calling him pompous or accusing him of not entertaining you enough is inappropriate. Think of yourselves as guests here, and then imagine how you would speak to a host.</p>
<p>I think of haggling as just one of many tools for getting the best price on something I am willing to buy anyway, or for upgrading a planned purchase for free. For example, when I got married, we bartered and negotiated because whatever we didn&#8217;t spend, we kept, and because we wanted our wedding to be beautiful. We spent less than $10k on a wedding for 125 people, and our honeymoon. Our wedding looked like a $50,000 wedding, easily. I had people calling me for weeks to tell me it was the best food they had eaten in ages, at a wedding or anywhere else. We had a beautiful day and came in under budget, largely due to bartering and negotiating. </p>
<p>Because my family lives in a very affluential area, if we had spent $10k on full price venues, food, etc. we would have been able to invite about 50 people or would have had to go super casual. Instead we had our food cooked by the former head chef of the Ritz-Carlton Chicago (family friend), had a famous DJ (hubby built him a website); a $700 cake + $2k videographer + $1k in rentals + $800 in flowers for about $1200 because of using trade scrip. I bought my corset and shoes new on eBay, borrowed votive holders from a cousin who had just married, used my mom&#8217;s veil, had a friend make the veil clip from craft materials, made my own (gorgeous) invitations. It was a lot of work, but it was worth it; not only was our day beautiful, but I built up many of my frugal and organizational skills.</p>
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		<title>By: LC</title>
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		<dc:creator>LC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 17:17:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>reulte- I totally agree.  Introversion simply means that you process thoughts internally and are refreshed by being alone, rather than processing thoughts by talking about them and being energized by crowds.  It has nothing to do with shyness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reulte- I totally agree.  Introversion simply means that you process thoughts internally and are refreshed by being alone, rather than processing thoughts by talking about them and being energized by crowds.  It has nothing to do with shyness.</p>
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		<title>By: reulte</title>
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		<dc:creator>reulte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 16:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a silly point ... which is important to me.  All introverts are not shy.  I&#039;m an introvert.  I can go days without conversing with close friends and work collegues.  People and their activities just do not interest me.  But I am not shy.  I can be and have been a bit rude when someone tries to push a conversation on me or &#039;try to bring me out of my shell&#039;.

Interestingly, I disagree with all of your points.
(1) A person&#039;s desire and ability to haggle are situational.  If the circumstances were right (or wrong), the shyest person in the world could haggle. 
(2) Introverts are not directly penalized.  As mentioned above, being an introvert does not make a person shy.  As a general rule, we just don&#039;t care to socialize with other people.  It doesn&#039;t mean we can&#039;t do it.
(3) Businesses usually take into consideration a variety of factors in pricing but haggling is towards the bottom of that list.
(4) Business that don&#039;t expect haggling can be open to it if approached intelligently - i.e. asking the correct person at an appropriate time with courtesy.
(5) You never know if asking for a discount or haggling will work until you actually try it.

The seller knows the price s/he can sell at; it is up to you to know the price at which you can or want to purchase it.  These prices don&#039;t need to be the same and haggling is merely a discussion to arrive at an agreeable compromise.  Politeness and courtesy is essential, as it is in all social interactions.

Trent (#48)  How do you know she didn&#039;t apply the 10-second rule?  How do you know her family/friends aren&#039;t going to get $100 of enjoyment out of the $20 purchase?  A couple of dollars of toy soldiers and marbles brought hours of enjoyment to my father, brother, son and nephew as they set up advancing lines and knocked them over.  The point is whether you were writing about haggling or writing about unnecessary purchases.  I think you lost your focus  2/3&#039;s way through the article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a silly point &#8230; which is important to me.  All introverts are not shy.  I&#8217;m an introvert.  I can go days without conversing with close friends and work collegues.  People and their activities just do not interest me.  But I am not shy.  I can be and have been a bit rude when someone tries to push a conversation on me or &#8216;try to bring me out of my shell&#8217;.</p>
<p>Interestingly, I disagree with all of your points.<br />
(1) A person&#8217;s desire and ability to haggle are situational.  If the circumstances were right (or wrong), the shyest person in the world could haggle.<br />
(2) Introverts are not directly penalized.  As mentioned above, being an introvert does not make a person shy.  As a general rule, we just don&#8217;t care to socialize with other people.  It doesn&#8217;t mean we can&#8217;t do it.<br />
(3) Businesses usually take into consideration a variety of factors in pricing but haggling is towards the bottom of that list.<br />
(4) Business that don&#8217;t expect haggling can be open to it if approached intelligently &#8211; i.e. asking the correct person at an appropriate time with courtesy.<br />
(5) You never know if asking for a discount or haggling will work until you actually try it.</p>
<p>The seller knows the price s/he can sell at; it is up to you to know the price at which you can or want to purchase it.  These prices don&#8217;t need to be the same and haggling is merely a discussion to arrive at an agreeable compromise.  Politeness and courtesy is essential, as it is in all social interactions.</p>
<p>Trent (#48)  How do you know she didn&#8217;t apply the 10-second rule?  How do you know her family/friends aren&#8217;t going to get $100 of enjoyment out of the $20 purchase?  A couple of dollars of toy soldiers and marbles brought hours of enjoyment to my father, brother, son and nephew as they set up advancing lines and knocked them over.  The point is whether you were writing about haggling or writing about unnecessary purchases.  I think you lost your focus  2/3&#8242;s way through the article.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 16:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the end of the day, time is money. The time it took her to bargain down those few cents wouldn&#039;t be worth it to me. Haggle on a big purchase? Absolutely. But if we&#039;re talking dollars and cents, why bother?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the end of the day, time is money. The time it took her to bargain down those few cents wouldn&#8217;t be worth it to me. Haggle on a big purchase? Absolutely. But if we&#8217;re talking dollars and cents, why bother?</p>
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		<title>By: Georgia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Georgia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 15:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always say I&#039;m asking, not haggling.  I have had several yes&#039;s and 1 no, which turned out to my advantage.

Twice, in Walgreen&#039;s, I got deep discounts.  I bought containers each year for presents at work (50-100).  One year I got the felt Christmas stockings.  They were 1.99 each.  I waited until they went on sale for .99.  Then I asked a passing manager how much he would charge me if I took the whole amount (about 100).  He told me I could have them all at 3 for .99.  Great deal.  Did it another time on another Christmas buy.

I went to Lowe&#039;s to buy a covering for a very small window in my studio apt. They didn&#039;t have what I wanted, but showed me to a stack of 1/2&quot; thick insulation board that was about 4x6&#039;.  The top board had a large scratch across the top of it.  I asked the clerk if I could just have him cut it in half and only pay for the undamaged half.  He said fine and cut it.  Then he told me that they couldn&#039;t have sold the damaged piece as a whole, so I could have it for nothing.  Whew!!

Went into a Gerbe&#039;s grocery and saw a Christmas village house with lights on sale.  Asked for a better price.  Was told no by a manager.  Went back a week or two later (after Christmas) and it was on sale for much lower than I had offered to pay.  I bought 3 of them, one for me and 2 for gifts.  So I still came out ahead.

I guess I don&#039;t believe in haggling.  I ask if they can do better, and if they do so, I buy it.  I let them set my bargain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always say I&#8217;m asking, not haggling.  I have had several yes&#8217;s and 1 no, which turned out to my advantage.</p>
<p>Twice, in Walgreen&#8217;s, I got deep discounts.  I bought containers each year for presents at work (50-100).  One year I got the felt Christmas stockings.  They were 1.99 each.  I waited until they went on sale for .99.  Then I asked a passing manager how much he would charge me if I took the whole amount (about 100).  He told me I could have them all at 3 for .99.  Great deal.  Did it another time on another Christmas buy.</p>
<p>I went to Lowe&#8217;s to buy a covering for a very small window in my studio apt. They didn&#8217;t have what I wanted, but showed me to a stack of 1/2&#8243; thick insulation board that was about 4&#215;6&#8242;.  The top board had a large scratch across the top of it.  I asked the clerk if I could just have him cut it in half and only pay for the undamaged half.  He said fine and cut it.  Then he told me that they couldn&#8217;t have sold the damaged piece as a whole, so I could have it for nothing.  Whew!!</p>
<p>Went into a Gerbe&#8217;s grocery and saw a Christmas village house with lights on sale.  Asked for a better price.  Was told no by a manager.  Went back a week or two later (after Christmas) and it was on sale for much lower than I had offered to pay.  I bought 3 of them, one for me and 2 for gifts.  So I still came out ahead.</p>
<p>I guess I don&#8217;t believe in haggling.  I ask if they can do better, and if they do so, I buy it.  I let them set my bargain.</p>
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		<title>By: M</title>
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		<dc:creator>M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 15:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those who say they can&#039;t haggle, consider it a quiet conversation between 2 people, one wants to sell their product, you want to buy it. It must be win/win. Don&#039;t whine, beg, say I don&#039;t have the money, just talk, you can point out scratches, marks or dents which may make it hard to sell to someone else, if they can&#039;t come down on the price see if they can add something to make it worth your while, free delivery, free take away of the old item. A friend went to a furnature store and they won&#039;t budge on the price of a sofa even though it was the last one, she made a comment about 2 pictures on clearance she really liked and got them almost for free if she took the sofa. Turn over the decorations in a furnature store and most of the time you will find a price tag, everything is for sale.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those who say they can&#8217;t haggle, consider it a quiet conversation between 2 people, one wants to sell their product, you want to buy it. It must be win/win. Don&#8217;t whine, beg, say I don&#8217;t have the money, just talk, you can point out scratches, marks or dents which may make it hard to sell to someone else, if they can&#8217;t come down on the price see if they can add something to make it worth your while, free delivery, free take away of the old item. A friend went to a furnature store and they won&#8217;t budge on the price of a sofa even though it was the last one, she made a comment about 2 pictures on clearance she really liked and got them almost for free if she took the sofa. Turn over the decorations in a furnature store and most of the time you will find a price tag, everything is for sale.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathleen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 14:27:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently got married, and I discovered the kind ask.  I saved a lot in a lot of areas by just saying something like, &quot;I have gotten quotes from other companies that were much lower, but you have the best reputation and have exactly what I want. Is there any flexibility in your price?&quot;  I probably ended up saving $2000+ on the entire wedding by doing this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently got married, and I discovered the kind ask.  I saved a lot in a lot of areas by just saying something like, &#8220;I have gotten quotes from other companies that were much lower, but you have the best reputation and have exactly what I want. Is there any flexibility in your price?&#8221;  I probably ended up saving $2000+ on the entire wedding by doing this.</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brandon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 14:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, on topic, I did a little bit of haggling at Lowe&#039;s recently though I wonder if I could have gotten a better deal if I pushed harded. They had an open box refurbished front loading washer for $450 (normally $698 at least). They also had the stands on sale for $98 (I cannot believe that the stands are typically over $200. It is literally a drawer!).

Anyway, they also had an open box dryer (just a floor model) for $698 which was the standard price for that dryer except it also came with the deal and the stands. I had seen a cheaper dryer (same model) opened box at another retailer and mentioned this. I also pointed out there was a bit of a dent on the top of the dryer floor model. In the end, they knocked 10% off the dryer and an extra $30 off the washer to get me to buy both for a total of $1048, much less than the $1400 retail price for new ones.

They still kind of got me a little bit though because I paid $170 total for a 4 year extended warranty on both items. I probably would not have done it, but I knew the washer no longer had a manufacturer&#039;s warranty since it was repaired and, analyzing the risk, getting the protection on both was cheaper than paying for a single repair on either item probably would have cost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, on topic, I did a little bit of haggling at Lowe&#8217;s recently though I wonder if I could have gotten a better deal if I pushed harded. They had an open box refurbished front loading washer for $450 (normally $698 at least). They also had the stands on sale for $98 (I cannot believe that the stands are typically over $200. It is literally a drawer!).</p>
<p>Anyway, they also had an open box dryer (just a floor model) for $698 which was the standard price for that dryer except it also came with the deal and the stands. I had seen a cheaper dryer (same model) opened box at another retailer and mentioned this. I also pointed out there was a bit of a dent on the top of the dryer floor model. In the end, they knocked 10% off the dryer and an extra $30 off the washer to get me to buy both for a total of $1048, much less than the $1400 retail price for new ones.</p>
<p>They still kind of got me a little bit though because I paid $170 total for a 4 year extended warranty on both items. I probably would not have done it, but I knew the washer no longer had a manufacturer&#8217;s warranty since it was repaired and, analyzing the risk, getting the protection on both was cheaper than paying for a single repair on either item probably would have cost.</p>
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		<title>By: AG</title>
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		<dc:creator>AG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 14:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saved $2000 straight up on my new car and also got rebate on one of my utility bills. It&#039;s really worth it :) Just be confident and do your homework considering the market situation of product you are interested in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saved $2000 straight up on my new car and also got rebate on one of my utility bills. It&#8217;s really worth it :) Just be confident and do your homework considering the market situation of product you are interested in.</p>
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		<title>By: PrettyGirl35</title>
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		<dc:creator>PrettyGirl35</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 07:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IMO haggling at the Dollar Store is not being frugal! The word for that is &quot;cheapskate&quot;!  &quot;shaking my head in disgust&quot;...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IMO haggling at the Dollar Store is not being frugal! The word for that is &#8220;cheapskate&#8221;!  &#8220;shaking my head in disgust&#8221;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Guy in SA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guy in SA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 21:44:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even at chain stores you can get discounts.   Simply ask the cashier if she has any coupons or free stuff today!  I have gotten flashlights from the Gap and buy one get one free coupons on a regular basis.

At the mall, i ask for the mall employee discount.  Usually they ask me if I work at the mall and I honestly reply that I don&#039;t.  So far they always give me the discount.

I think you can do well as long as you don&#039;t be a jerk about it and back down when there is little or no hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even at chain stores you can get discounts.   Simply ask the cashier if she has any coupons or free stuff today!  I have gotten flashlights from the Gap and buy one get one free coupons on a regular basis.</p>
<p>At the mall, i ask for the mall employee discount.  Usually they ask me if I work at the mall and I honestly reply that I don&#8217;t.  So far they always give me the discount.</p>
<p>I think you can do well as long as you don&#8217;t be a jerk about it and back down when there is little or no hope.</p>
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		<title>By: gail</title>
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		<dc:creator>gail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 20:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You don&#039;t have to be an extrovert to haggle effectively--introverts can do this too! Attitude matter more. The most important things are to be respectful of the merchant, patient, and persistant...and be ready to walk away. Ask &quot;Is this the best you can do?&quot; or just ask &quot;will you take (10-20% less than the asking price)?. That puts the ball in the seller&#039;s court...and sometimes a buyer doesn&#039;t have to say much more. Silence can be as effective a bargaining tool as haggling!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You don&#8217;t have to be an extrovert to haggle effectively&#8211;introverts can do this too! Attitude matter more. The most important things are to be respectful of the merchant, patient, and persistant&#8230;and be ready to walk away. Ask &#8220;Is this the best you can do?&#8221; or just ask &#8220;will you take (10-20% less than the asking price)?. That puts the ball in the seller&#8217;s court&#8230;and sometimes a buyer doesn&#8217;t have to say much more. Silence can be as effective a bargaining tool as haggling!</p>
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		<title>By: GlennH</title>
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		<dc:creator>GlennH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 20:26:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got a great deal at Home Depot shopping for some potting soil. While I was looking over the selection, I noticed a worker loading up one of their flatbed carts with bags of product. I struck up a conversation and found out that these were opened bags. Customers open the bag to see what&#039;s inside, and walk away. The opened bags then don&#039;t sell, and have to be discarded or returned for credit. So I asked the worker, somewhat in jest, how much for the whole cart? He got the manager and the price was $25 for the whole lot, they were VERY happy just to be rid of it. After I paid and was loading up my minivan in the parking lot, they came out with out ANOTHER huge cartload of opened garden soil bags, and gave that to me as well. I got a couple hundred dollars of product, over 50 bags, all for $25. It pays to ask. Years later we, and my extended family, are still using the bags of soil and gardening products.

A great example of haggling was set by the comedian, Bob Hope. At his death, he had real estate valued at over $200 million. He had two comments to make regarding price: any price offered him for his property was &quot;Too little.&quot; Any price for him to buy was &quot;Too much.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got a great deal at Home Depot shopping for some potting soil. While I was looking over the selection, I noticed a worker loading up one of their flatbed carts with bags of product. I struck up a conversation and found out that these were opened bags. Customers open the bag to see what&#8217;s inside, and walk away. The opened bags then don&#8217;t sell, and have to be discarded or returned for credit. So I asked the worker, somewhat in jest, how much for the whole cart? He got the manager and the price was $25 for the whole lot, they were VERY happy just to be rid of it. After I paid and was loading up my minivan in the parking lot, they came out with out ANOTHER huge cartload of opened garden soil bags, and gave that to me as well. I got a couple hundred dollars of product, over 50 bags, all for $25. It pays to ask. Years later we, and my extended family, are still using the bags of soil and gardening products.</p>
<p>A great example of haggling was set by the comedian, Bob Hope. At his death, he had real estate valued at over $200 million. He had two comments to make regarding price: any price offered him for his property was &#8220;Too little.&#8221; Any price for him to buy was &#8220;Too much.&#8221;</p>
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