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	<title>Comments on: Billy Mays, Michael Jackson, Your Heart, and Your Bottom Dollar</title>
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		<title>By: dlm</title>
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		<dc:creator>dlm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2010 21:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gary Taubes&#039; GCBC is a masterpiece -- all the research back to day one -- disproving many of the popular current beliefs on nutrition and health. @#78 and @#81 thanks for the recommendation. He has a shorter Why We Get Fat just coming out and has a new blog! He verifies Michael Eades&#039; Protein Power, Atkins and Dr. Richard K Bernstein&#039;s Diabetes Solution. It certainly all works for me and has probably been a lifesaver. Low carb is the only way to control insulin, fat and diabetes. Your body needs good saturated fat and protein.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gary Taubes&#8217; GCBC is a masterpiece &#8212; all the research back to day one &#8212; disproving many of the popular current beliefs on nutrition and health. @#78 and @#81 thanks for the recommendation. He has a shorter Why We Get Fat just coming out and has a new blog! He verifies Michael Eades&#8217; Protein Power, Atkins and Dr. Richard K Bernstein&#8217;s Diabetes Solution. It certainly all works for me and has probably been a lifesaver. Low carb is the only way to control insulin, fat and diabetes. Your body needs good saturated fat and protein.</p>
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		<title>By: reulte</title>
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		<dc:creator>reulte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 11:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam (#79)  I can&#039;t agree with the last paragraph where you state that (if anything) we&#039;ve evolved not to need meat because our caloric needs aren&#039;t as demanding as they where when humans did the hunter &amp; gatherer thing.  That&#039;s not a matter of evolution -- it&#039;s more a matter of energy needs and conservation.  Even archaic humans didn&#039;t need as many calories when they were lounging around as they did when they were chasing giant mammoths.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam (#79)  I can&#8217;t agree with the last paragraph where you state that (if anything) we&#8217;ve evolved not to need meat because our caloric needs aren&#8217;t as demanding as they where when humans did the hunter &amp; gatherer thing.  That&#8217;s not a matter of evolution &#8212; it&#8217;s more a matter of energy needs and conservation.  Even archaic humans didn&#8217;t need as many calories when they were lounging around as they did when they were chasing giant mammoths.</p>
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		<title>By: K.</title>
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		<dc:creator>K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 06:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you&#039;re interested in avoiding heart disease, you should read Good Calories, Bad Calories by Gary Taubes.  It&#039;s life changing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;re interested in avoiding heart disease, you should read Good Calories, Bad Calories by Gary Taubes.  It&#8217;s life changing.</p>
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		<title>By: Caroline</title>
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		<dc:creator>Caroline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 03:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post!  For me, managing my diet is much harder than managing my money - congratulations on having both in hand!  I found this website and the accompanying books at the library really helpful: http://www.dadamo.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post!  For me, managing my diet is much harder than managing my money &#8211; congratulations on having both in hand!  I found this website and the accompanying books at the library really helpful: <a href="http://www.dadamo.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.dadamo.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 02:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, Swampette, I disagree.  I&#039;m a 34 year old vegetarian woman who works out 5-6 days a week; running, cycling and weight training, yet my cholesterol and iron are perfect, I have good lean muscle mass, no health issues except asthma, and I haven&#039;t been sick in years. 

I&#039;ve read a lot on this topic and any &quot;risks&quot; of the vegetarianism are far outweighed by the benefits.  The protein deficiency is a myth.  Most people, vegetarians included, get more than enough protein because all unrefined foods contain protein. As long as one eats enough non-sugar calories to maintain a healthy weight,they&#039;re likely getting enough protein.

I also disagree with your assertion that vegetarianism is &quot;extreme&quot;.  There&#039;s nothing extreme about eating EVERYTHING but meat.

I also disagree that we&#039;ve &quot;evolved to eat meat&quot;.  If anything,  we&#039;ve evolved not to need meat because our caloric needs today aren&#039;t nearly as much as they were when we had to hunt, gather, and walk everywhere, or otherwise fend for ourselves entirely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, Swampette, I disagree.  I&#8217;m a 34 year old vegetarian woman who works out 5-6 days a week; running, cycling and weight training, yet my cholesterol and iron are perfect, I have good lean muscle mass, no health issues except asthma, and I haven&#8217;t been sick in years. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve read a lot on this topic and any &#8220;risks&#8221; of the vegetarianism are far outweighed by the benefits.  The protein deficiency is a myth.  Most people, vegetarians included, get more than enough protein because all unrefined foods contain protein. As long as one eats enough non-sugar calories to maintain a healthy weight,they&#8217;re likely getting enough protein.</p>
<p>I also disagree with your assertion that vegetarianism is &#8220;extreme&#8221;.  There&#8217;s nothing extreme about eating EVERYTHING but meat.</p>
<p>I also disagree that we&#8217;ve &#8220;evolved to eat meat&#8221;.  If anything,  we&#8217;ve evolved not to need meat because our caloric needs today aren&#8217;t nearly as much as they were when we had to hunt, gather, and walk everywhere, or otherwise fend for ourselves entirely.</p>
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		<title>By: Pit Gal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pit Gal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 20:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gabriel - your post was spot on.  A vigorous exerciser, I struggled with weight my whole life until I went grainless.  meat and veggies are the way to go. They ARE my diet. I have maintained a 50 lb weight loss for 4 years without hunger.  We have all been sold a bill of goods - please Trent, if you get a chance, read NYTimes author Gary Taubes book: Good Calories/Bad Calories.  He and Dr. Atkins saved my life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gabriel &#8211; your post was spot on.  A vigorous exerciser, I struggled with weight my whole life until I went grainless.  meat and veggies are the way to go. They ARE my diet. I have maintained a 50 lb weight loss for 4 years without hunger.  We have all been sold a bill of goods &#8211; please Trent, if you get a chance, read NYTimes author Gary Taubes book: Good Calories/Bad Calories.  He and Dr. Atkins saved my life.</p>
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		<title>By: Kirsten</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kirsten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 20:33:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heart attacks start with inflammation, so really you should be looking at all of the inflammatory things in your life and reducing them as much as possible. Smoking is inflammatory, and so is stress, as many commenters have mentioned. The rest of those things you mentioned are up for debate, though the right type of exercise is good for the long-term goal of helping your body fight inflammation. Rather than pointing accusatory fingers at meat and saturated fat, (can we say causation vs correlation?) you should try looking more into the inflammatory affects of grains. (yikes!) And focus on getting lots of mono-unsaturated fats (yay nuts!) keep your carbohydrates low (boo metabolic syndrome!) and get plenty of anti-oxidants. (whether caffeine is bad for blood pressure or not, coffee is I believe the number one source of anti-oxidants in the american diet. yay?)

I&#039;m not a huge fan of dietary supplements because I&#039;d rather get my nutrients naturally, but I do take Omega-3 supplements (would rather avoid mercury in fish and know I&#039;m still getting too much of my polunsaturated fats as Omega-6) and vitamin D (I&#039;m definitely not getting enough sun) which are my extra boost to protect my heart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heart attacks start with inflammation, so really you should be looking at all of the inflammatory things in your life and reducing them as much as possible. Smoking is inflammatory, and so is stress, as many commenters have mentioned. The rest of those things you mentioned are up for debate, though the right type of exercise is good for the long-term goal of helping your body fight inflammation. Rather than pointing accusatory fingers at meat and saturated fat, (can we say causation vs correlation?) you should try looking more into the inflammatory affects of grains. (yikes!) And focus on getting lots of mono-unsaturated fats (yay nuts!) keep your carbohydrates low (boo metabolic syndrome!) and get plenty of anti-oxidants. (whether caffeine is bad for blood pressure or not, coffee is I believe the number one source of anti-oxidants in the american diet. yay?)</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a huge fan of dietary supplements because I&#8217;d rather get my nutrients naturally, but I do take Omega-3 supplements (would rather avoid mercury in fish and know I&#8217;m still getting too much of my polunsaturated fats as Omega-6) and vitamin D (I&#8217;m definitely not getting enough sun) which are my extra boost to protect my heart.</p>
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		<title>By: SoCalGal</title>
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		<dc:creator>SoCalGal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 20:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post Trent. Losing and keeping the weight off is tough &amp; I applaud you.
I would also add to your list:
have some fun &amp; socialize
It is so great to get out &amp; meet up with friends and family.
Just my 2 cents :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post Trent. Losing and keeping the weight off is tough &amp; I applaud you.<br />
I would also add to your list:<br />
have some fun &amp; socialize<br />
It is so great to get out &amp; meet up with friends and family.<br />
Just my 2 cents :)</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin@OutOfYourRut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin@OutOfYourRut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 18:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trent--Let&#039;s see, you run a business, you have two very small children (know that experience well--blessed but stressful) AND you lost 40 lbs in six months?

When do you sleep???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trent&#8211;Let&#8217;s see, you run a business, you have two very small children (know that experience well&#8211;blessed but stressful) AND you lost 40 lbs in six months?</p>
<p>When do you sleep???</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 18:53:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@swampette

“I can tell you that if you are exercising as often as is advised, research shows that you will need more iron than you can get from a vegetarian diet. Your anecdotal evidence can’t supplant the rigorous research that goes into training endurance athletes.”

You are absolutely correct that anectdotal evidence cannot supplant the rigorous research that goes into training endurance athletes. You would do well to practice what you preach in that regard. There are scores of endurance athletes, both men and women, novice and professional, who are vegetarians. Look no further than Scott Jurek, who has won the Western States 100 Mile Endurance Run (the premier ultramarathon event) seven consecutive years and owns the course record all while being a vegan. 

From a health standpoint, the research I’ve seen indicates that people who never or rarely eat meat are much healthier than there counterparts who eat meat regularly. There is no noticeable difference between those who seldom eat meat and those who abstain completely. 

All the fuss about vegetarians not getting enough protein, iron, etc. is really overdone. The amount of nutrients, vitamins, antioxidants, etc. that are lacking in the diet of the average human omnivore in this country because they don’t eat a wide enough variety of fruits and vegetables presents a much greater health concern than any deficiencies that might be found in the average vegetarian’s diet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@swampette</p>
<p>“I can tell you that if you are exercising as often as is advised, research shows that you will need more iron than you can get from a vegetarian diet. Your anecdotal evidence can’t supplant the rigorous research that goes into training endurance athletes.”</p>
<p>You are absolutely correct that anectdotal evidence cannot supplant the rigorous research that goes into training endurance athletes. You would do well to practice what you preach in that regard. There are scores of endurance athletes, both men and women, novice and professional, who are vegetarians. Look no further than Scott Jurek, who has won the Western States 100 Mile Endurance Run (the premier ultramarathon event) seven consecutive years and owns the course record all while being a vegan. </p>
<p>From a health standpoint, the research I’ve seen indicates that people who never or rarely eat meat are much healthier than there counterparts who eat meat regularly. There is no noticeable difference between those who seldom eat meat and those who abstain completely. </p>
<p>All the fuss about vegetarians not getting enough protein, iron, etc. is really overdone. The amount of nutrients, vitamins, antioxidants, etc. that are lacking in the diet of the average human omnivore in this country because they don’t eat a wide enough variety of fruits and vegetables presents a much greater health concern than any deficiencies that might be found in the average vegetarian’s diet.</p>
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		<title>By: Nine Circles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nine Circles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 17:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I second the concerns a couple of commenters have expressed about cutting back severely on caffeine. Just this week a study was reported that indicates caffeine may actually *reverse* Alzheimer&#039;s. As the daughter of someone with Alzheimer&#039;s, I can tell you that dropping dead suddenly of a heart attack is a much better way to go than the heartbreaking, slow degeneration of Alzheimer&#039;s. When we talk about health, we need to consider all aspects of health--not just keeping our hearts pumping.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I second the concerns a couple of commenters have expressed about cutting back severely on caffeine. Just this week a study was reported that indicates caffeine may actually *reverse* Alzheimer&#8217;s. As the daughter of someone with Alzheimer&#8217;s, I can tell you that dropping dead suddenly of a heart attack is a much better way to go than the heartbreaking, slow degeneration of Alzheimer&#8217;s. When we talk about health, we need to consider all aspects of health&#8211;not just keeping our hearts pumping.</p>
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		<title>By: swampette</title>
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		<dc:creator>swampette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 16:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@GayleRN
Extreme cases may be rare, but a study recently found that 13% of those who completed the Boston Marathon experienced hyponatremia. 

Again, I&#039;m not saying this is a concern for most Americans. What I am saying is that here in Florida, where we sweat a LOT during exercise, we have learned to emphasize salt replacement as much as hydration. If someone is embarking on both an exercise routine and a diet change during the summer, he or she may want to be aware that extreme sodium reduction MAY not be the best choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@GayleRN<br />
Extreme cases may be rare, but a study recently found that 13% of those who completed the Boston Marathon experienced hyponatremia. </p>
<p>Again, I&#8217;m not saying this is a concern for most Americans. What I am saying is that here in Florida, where we sweat a LOT during exercise, we have learned to emphasize salt replacement as much as hydration. If someone is embarking on both an exercise routine and a diet change during the summer, he or she may want to be aware that extreme sodium reduction MAY not be the best choice.</p>
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		<title>By: Lenore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lenore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 16:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lindsay of post #31 is nothing but a hater, so just ignore her, Trent.  Losing 40 pounds is a MAJOR accomplishment.  I know because I lost 30 several months ago and have unfortunately found them again.  It takes WORK and dedication to change your lifestyle, so be proud of what you&#039;re doing.  I think keeping us updated on your progress and travails would be awesomely inspiring...for you and us both.

I remember when Michael Jackson was supposedly sleeping in a hyperbaric (?) chamber to live longer.  He was certainly getting plenty of exercise preparing for a tour and had every nutritional and medical advantage at his disposal.  It may never be clear why he died so young, but it has reinforced to me that there are no guarantees.  Life is fragile, and money cannot buy happiness or total security.  Enjoy each day, give and receive love and try to leave the world a better place than you found it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lindsay of post #31 is nothing but a hater, so just ignore her, Trent.  Losing 40 pounds is a MAJOR accomplishment.  I know because I lost 30 several months ago and have unfortunately found them again.  It takes WORK and dedication to change your lifestyle, so be proud of what you&#8217;re doing.  I think keeping us updated on your progress and travails would be awesomely inspiring&#8230;for you and us both.</p>
<p>I remember when Michael Jackson was supposedly sleeping in a hyperbaric (?) chamber to live longer.  He was certainly getting plenty of exercise preparing for a tour and had every nutritional and medical advantage at his disposal.  It may never be clear why he died so young, but it has reinforced to me that there are no guarantees.  Life is fragile, and money cannot buy happiness or total security.  Enjoy each day, give and receive love and try to leave the world a better place than you found it.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 15:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@swampette

&quot;I can tell you that if you are exercising as often as is advised, research shows that you will need more iron than you can get from a vegetarian diet. Your anecdotal evidence can’t supplant the rigorous research that goes into training endurance athletes.&quot;

You are absolutely correct that anectdotal evidence cannot supplant the rigorous research that goes into training endurance athletes.  You would do well to practice what you preach in that regard.  There are scores of endurance athletes, both men and women, novice and professional, who are vegetarians.  Look no further than Scott Jurek, who has won the Western States 100 Mile Endurance Run (the premier ultramarathon event) seven consecutive years and owns the course record all while being a vegan.  

From a health standpoint, the research I&#039;ve seen indicates that people who never or rarely eat meat are much healthier than there counterparts who eat meat regularly.  There is no noticeable difference between those who seldom eat meat and those who abstain completely.  

All the fuss about vegetarians not getting enough protein, iron, etc. is really overdone.  The amount of nutrients, vitamins, antioxidants, etc. that are lacking in the diet of the average human omnivore in this country because they don&#039;t eat a wide enough variety of fruits and vegetables presents a much greater health concern than any deficiencies that might be found in the average vegetarian&#039;s diet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@swampette</p>
<p>&#8220;I can tell you that if you are exercising as often as is advised, research shows that you will need more iron than you can get from a vegetarian diet. Your anecdotal evidence can’t supplant the rigorous research that goes into training endurance athletes.&#8221;</p>
<p>You are absolutely correct that anectdotal evidence cannot supplant the rigorous research that goes into training endurance athletes.  You would do well to practice what you preach in that regard.  There are scores of endurance athletes, both men and women, novice and professional, who are vegetarians.  Look no further than Scott Jurek, who has won the Western States 100 Mile Endurance Run (the premier ultramarathon event) seven consecutive years and owns the course record all while being a vegan.  </p>
<p>From a health standpoint, the research I&#8217;ve seen indicates that people who never or rarely eat meat are much healthier than there counterparts who eat meat regularly.  There is no noticeable difference between those who seldom eat meat and those who abstain completely.  </p>
<p>All the fuss about vegetarians not getting enough protein, iron, etc. is really overdone.  The amount of nutrients, vitamins, antioxidants, etc. that are lacking in the diet of the average human omnivore in this country because they don&#8217;t eat a wide enough variety of fruits and vegetables presents a much greater health concern than any deficiencies that might be found in the average vegetarian&#8217;s diet.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 15:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a stroke at age 40 - yes age 40 - and I didn&#039;t smoke or drink coffee or had high sodium intake.  It was from stress!!  I&#039;ve since made several life changes but still enjoy life to the fullest.  If I had a nickel for every time someone said I was too young I would be a rich woman and wouldn&#039;t need Trent&#039;s advise!!!  My mother who is very healthy got cancer. Just goes to show you that one never knows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a stroke at age 40 &#8211; yes age 40 &#8211; and I didn&#8217;t smoke or drink coffee or had high sodium intake.  It was from stress!!  I&#8217;ve since made several life changes but still enjoy life to the fullest.  If I had a nickel for every time someone said I was too young I would be a rich woman and wouldn&#8217;t need Trent&#8217;s advise!!!  My mother who is very healthy got cancer. Just goes to show you that one never knows.</p>
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		<title>By: GayleRn</title>
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		<dc:creator>GayleRn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 14:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@swampette
True hyponatremia is extremely rare and even more rare to be caused by overhydration or undersalting.  Overhydration requires several gallons of water in a short period of time and is rare that anyone attempts it.  Undersalting in the American diet is almost impossible given our general diet.  Even in Subsaharan Africa it was not necessary to salt our food in any significant way.  We most certainly did not use salt tabs.  

In twenty years of cardiac nursing I have only seen two instances of true laboratory proven cases of hyponatremia.  The symptoms of extreme disorientation, dizziness, altered gait, slurred speech, loss of balance etc.  will be obvious to even the most disinterested bystander and you will end up hospitalized. There are other electrolyte imbalances that are far more common and far more dangerous, but even they are more likely to be caused by chronic organic disease than anything you did or didn&#039;t do today.  

As a cardiac nurse I totally agree with Trent&#039;s list and basically in the order given.  Almost all of the patients I see are smokers, the younger the patient the more likely they are to be smokers.  Many are overweight, some to extremes, and associated with that is a high rate of diabetes.  Exercise is very beneficial for control of both weight and blood sugar.  No smoking and exercise alone are the places I advise my patients to start because nobody can do it all at once.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@swampette<br />
True hyponatremia is extremely rare and even more rare to be caused by overhydration or undersalting.  Overhydration requires several gallons of water in a short period of time and is rare that anyone attempts it.  Undersalting in the American diet is almost impossible given our general diet.  Even in Subsaharan Africa it was not necessary to salt our food in any significant way.  We most certainly did not use salt tabs.  </p>
<p>In twenty years of cardiac nursing I have only seen two instances of true laboratory proven cases of hyponatremia.  The symptoms of extreme disorientation, dizziness, altered gait, slurred speech, loss of balance etc.  will be obvious to even the most disinterested bystander and you will end up hospitalized. There are other electrolyte imbalances that are far more common and far more dangerous, but even they are more likely to be caused by chronic organic disease than anything you did or didn&#8217;t do today.  </p>
<p>As a cardiac nurse I totally agree with Trent&#8217;s list and basically in the order given.  Almost all of the patients I see are smokers, the younger the patient the more likely they are to be smokers.  Many are overweight, some to extremes, and associated with that is a high rate of diabetes.  Exercise is very beneficial for control of both weight and blood sugar.  No smoking and exercise alone are the places I advise my patients to start because nobody can do it all at once.</p>
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		<title>By: Pola</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pola</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 14:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ummm...Billy Mays was NOT 50...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ummm&#8230;Billy Mays was NOT 50&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: swampette</title>
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		<dc:creator>swampette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 13:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not wrong. I work out for about an hour six days a week, and struggle with my iron levels. I was a vegetarian for six years, during which I suffered from fainting spells. Doctor told me repeatedly that I had to eat meat, that my supplement wasn&#039;t enough and likely would never be. I began eating lean meat in limited quantities and lo and behold, the fainting spells disappeared. 

Both our stories are anecdotal. However, I can tell you that if you are exercising as often as is advised, research shows that you will need more iron than you can get from a vegetarian diet. Your anecdotal evidence can&#039;t supplant the rigorous research that goes into training endurance athletes.

I will absolutely concede that most Americans don&#039;t exercise enough, if at all, and therefore would probably be fine on a meatless diet. In fact, in that case, it is probably preferable. However, Trent has talked about possibly training for a 5K. (I hope he does, and I hope he considers training for longer distances.) If he is serious about this, his training should be taken into account when he plans his meals. I am as passionate about nutrition and fitness as Trent is about personal finance, and so I&#039;m merely trying to share the knowledge I&#039;ve gained over the years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not wrong. I work out for about an hour six days a week, and struggle with my iron levels. I was a vegetarian for six years, during which I suffered from fainting spells. Doctor told me repeatedly that I had to eat meat, that my supplement wasn&#8217;t enough and likely would never be. I began eating lean meat in limited quantities and lo and behold, the fainting spells disappeared. </p>
<p>Both our stories are anecdotal. However, I can tell you that if you are exercising as often as is advised, research shows that you will need more iron than you can get from a vegetarian diet. Your anecdotal evidence can&#8217;t supplant the rigorous research that goes into training endurance athletes.</p>
<p>I will absolutely concede that most Americans don&#8217;t exercise enough, if at all, and therefore would probably be fine on a meatless diet. In fact, in that case, it is probably preferable. However, Trent has talked about possibly training for a 5K. (I hope he does, and I hope he considers training for longer distances.) If he is serious about this, his training should be taken into account when he plans his meals. I am as passionate about nutrition and fitness as Trent is about personal finance, and so I&#8217;m merely trying to share the knowledge I&#8217;ve gained over the years.</p>
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		<title>By: Johanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 13:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@swampette: You are wrong.  I haven&#039;t eaten any meat for more than six years.  I recently had my iron level tested by my doctor.  It&#039;s absolutely fine.  I&#039;m not any kind of athlete, but I am a woman of childbearing age, which means that my iron needs are pretty high.  And I don&#039;t do anything special to meet them - I just eat a normal vegetarian diet and take a normal multivitamin.

Please stop propagating nutritional myths that aren&#039;t based on fact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@swampette: You are wrong.  I haven&#8217;t eaten any meat for more than six years.  I recently had my iron level tested by my doctor.  It&#8217;s absolutely fine.  I&#8217;m not any kind of athlete, but I am a woman of childbearing age, which means that my iron needs are pretty high.  And I don&#8217;t do anything special to meet them &#8211; I just eat a normal vegetarian diet and take a normal multivitamin.</p>
<p>Please stop propagating nutritional myths that aren&#8217;t based on fact.</p>
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		<title>By: swampette</title>
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		<dc:creator>swampette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 13:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Sam: Humans evolved to eat meat, just not in the quantities most eat today. It is very difficult to get enough iron or high quality protein from a vegetarian diet. This is especially true for people who exercise regularly. Exercise causes your body to make more red blood cells - a process that requires high levels of iron. It is virtually impossible to meet these needs without eating some meat, as the body doesn&#039;t process supplements as well as nutrients obtained from real food. I understand the environmental benefits of cutting back on meat consumption, and even agree that most people eat too much meat. But vegetarianism isn&#039;t a reasonable solution, either. Most extremes aren&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sam: Humans evolved to eat meat, just not in the quantities most eat today. It is very difficult to get enough iron or high quality protein from a vegetarian diet. This is especially true for people who exercise regularly. Exercise causes your body to make more red blood cells &#8211; a process that requires high levels of iron. It is virtually impossible to meet these needs without eating some meat, as the body doesn&#8217;t process supplements as well as nutrients obtained from real food. I understand the environmental benefits of cutting back on meat consumption, and even agree that most people eat too much meat. But vegetarianism isn&#8217;t a reasonable solution, either. Most extremes aren&#8217;t.</p>
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