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		<title>By: Kai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 05:53:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Anne at #14-
That sounds like a pretty nice deal.  They don&#039;t have that kind of thing way up here where our provinces are the size of your whole region, but I also live in a large city, which has 4 ymcas.  It is actually our local downtown Y that I know many people pass through on their way to work.  

As a single person, I don&#039;t require large grocery trips, so I get by alright with a large knapsack, but I could see the worth shifting for a family with significantly bigger weekly foodloads.  

At the moment, I am smart not to get a car, because I simply could not afford it.  But someday, I do wish to have a car that I can use for occasional errands, and regular city-leaving.  While I hope always to be able to located myself within biking distance of work (driving commutes are horrible and soul-crushing), there is no practical alternative to a car when you want to get out into the wilderness for a few days.  :D


To Amateur at #19-
I think my city is pretty awesome, but its overwhelming car culture and lack of bike-commuter-friendly infrastructure is one of my biggest issues.  I do, however, live in a rich oil-city, so I know many people at large companies with some extra amenities.  I realize that showers are not in every workplace.  Like I said, this is a reasonably simple adaptation that more businesses could do to encourage away from cars.  And bike racks too are needed in many more places.  
As for locking them up, keep in mind that you don&#039;t actually need to remove the front wheel and seat - you just need to lock those both.  A decent cable lock can wind around all your peripherals (including helmet, if desired), and hook up with a good U-bar.  Lots of people carry the seat because it&#039;s simple enough, but it&#039;s very easy to just wire it all together at the lamp post.  


Regarding public transportation, isn&#039;t New York supposed to be one of those great places where everything is linked by subway and most people don&#039;t need a car?  I&#039;ve never been, but that&#039;s the impression I got.  My mediocre (for a city this big) transit system is almost all busses on 20-40minute rotations (more than an hour in off-peak times).  

Public transportation is for the able-bodied, with stairs and nothing else?  Really?  Not here.  It&#039;s illegal to have a public place that is not wheelchair accessible.  Wheelchair-people have to be issued a key, or hit the call button to get into the elevator, and occasionally escalators might go down, but barring rare circumstances, any person with any level of mobility must be able to access all transit.  Actually by law.  You can&#039;t even have work buildings without ramps.  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Anne at #14-<br />
That sounds like a pretty nice deal.  They don&#8217;t have that kind of thing way up here where our provinces are the size of your whole region, but I also live in a large city, which has 4 ymcas.  It is actually our local downtown Y that I know many people pass through on their way to work.  </p>
<p>As a single person, I don&#8217;t require large grocery trips, so I get by alright with a large knapsack, but I could see the worth shifting for a family with significantly bigger weekly foodloads.  </p>
<p>At the moment, I am smart not to get a car, because I simply could not afford it.  But someday, I do wish to have a car that I can use for occasional errands, and regular city-leaving.  While I hope always to be able to located myself within biking distance of work (driving commutes are horrible and soul-crushing), there is no practical alternative to a car when you want to get out into the wilderness for a few days.  :D</p>
<p>To Amateur at #19-<br />
I think my city is pretty awesome, but its overwhelming car culture and lack of bike-commuter-friendly infrastructure is one of my biggest issues.  I do, however, live in a rich oil-city, so I know many people at large companies with some extra amenities.  I realize that showers are not in every workplace.  Like I said, this is a reasonably simple adaptation that more businesses could do to encourage away from cars.  And bike racks too are needed in many more places.<br />
As for locking them up, keep in mind that you don&#8217;t actually need to remove the front wheel and seat &#8211; you just need to lock those both.  A decent cable lock can wind around all your peripherals (including helmet, if desired), and hook up with a good U-bar.  Lots of people carry the seat because it&#8217;s simple enough, but it&#8217;s very easy to just wire it all together at the lamp post.  </p>
<p>Regarding public transportation, isn&#8217;t New York supposed to be one of those great places where everything is linked by subway and most people don&#8217;t need a car?  I&#8217;ve never been, but that&#8217;s the impression I got.  My mediocre (for a city this big) transit system is almost all busses on 20-40minute rotations (more than an hour in off-peak times).  </p>
<p>Public transportation is for the able-bodied, with stairs and nothing else?  Really?  Not here.  It&#8217;s illegal to have a public place that is not wheelchair accessible.  Wheelchair-people have to be issued a key, or hit the call button to get into the elevator, and occasionally escalators might go down, but barring rare circumstances, any person with any level of mobility must be able to access all transit.  Actually by law.  You can&#8217;t even have work buildings without ramps.<br />
Is this a Canadian thing?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 03:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan, I&#039;m not a &quot;pro&quot; by any means, but I am snowballing a couple of credit cards for the next few years. I&#039;ve actually thought about the downward-adjusting minimum payment, and I think as long as you can keep track of it in some way that makes sense to you, go ahead and make the smaller minimum payments each month - if one payment goes down by $5, that&#039;s a snowflake you can put towards your primary target. Otherwise, I&#039;d say adjusting every 3-6 months might work better.

I&#039;d like to see more comments on this aspect of snowballing as well!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan, I&#8217;m not a &#8220;pro&#8221; by any means, but I am snowballing a couple of credit cards for the next few years. I&#8217;ve actually thought about the downward-adjusting minimum payment, and I think as long as you can keep track of it in some way that makes sense to you, go ahead and make the smaller minimum payments each month &#8211; if one payment goes down by $5, that&#8217;s a snowflake you can put towards your primary target. Otherwise, I&#8217;d say adjusting every 3-6 months might work better.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to see more comments on this aspect of snowballing as well!</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 17:56:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Big Question from any &quot;Snowball Pro&quot;!!!!!

We are just started (about 2 months in) and I have a major question...we are supposed to pay minimum on every debt except the one where you roll all other cash into.  Got that.  The next month, however, many of the credit cards had reduced their minimum payments.  What do I do?  Do I continue to pay the &quot;new&quot; minimum, meaning I&#039;ll now have a couple more bucks for the snowball, or do I maintain a fixed pmt once I start the program?

If someone can do, or already did, the math on this, I&#039;d be interested in knowing.  Maybe it&#039;s just a wash with the overall amount of debt to be paid.  Maybe it makes the first snowball pay off faster.  Maybe it actually costs more?  I don&#039;t know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Big Question from any &#8220;Snowball Pro&#8221;!!!!!</p>
<p>We are just started (about 2 months in) and I have a major question&#8230;we are supposed to pay minimum on every debt except the one where you roll all other cash into.  Got that.  The next month, however, many of the credit cards had reduced their minimum payments.  What do I do?  Do I continue to pay the &#8220;new&#8221; minimum, meaning I&#8217;ll now have a couple more bucks for the snowball, or do I maintain a fixed pmt once I start the program?</p>
<p>If someone can do, or already did, the math on this, I&#8217;d be interested in knowing.  Maybe it&#8217;s just a wash with the overall amount of debt to be paid.  Maybe it makes the first snowball pay off faster.  Maybe it actually costs more?  I don&#8217;t know.</p>
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		<title>By: Easylivingsherpa.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Easylivingsherpa.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 17:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with Dave Ramsey is that his advice is like reading Dear Abby: it appeals to everyone but is useful to no one. Add to the list the Robert Kyosaki and most others that sell books with gold foil embossed titles.
Dave ramsey is mediocre, and he is no &quot;financial guru&quot;.
Ramseys only legitimate experience that qualifies him to speak as he does is due to his real estate background. I will give him one thing though, he is a tremendous marketer of himself. Who else could become a millionaire by telling people not to carry any debt, invest in your future, and buy term insurance. Wow, gotta give him some credit (not the bad kind).
There are no gurus, but there are useful sources of information: Morningstar and Yahoo Finance (as a compendium or repository), to name but two.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with Dave Ramsey is that his advice is like reading Dear Abby: it appeals to everyone but is useful to no one. Add to the list the Robert Kyosaki and most others that sell books with gold foil embossed titles.<br />
Dave ramsey is mediocre, and he is no &#8220;financial guru&#8221;.<br />
Ramseys only legitimate experience that qualifies him to speak as he does is due to his real estate background. I will give him one thing though, he is a tremendous marketer of himself. Who else could become a millionaire by telling people not to carry any debt, invest in your future, and buy term insurance. Wow, gotta give him some credit (not the bad kind).<br />
There are no gurus, but there are useful sources of information: Morningstar and Yahoo Finance (as a compendium or repository), to name but two.</p>
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		<title>By: Kami</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How I negotiated with my credit card company was that- I didnt. I called said I couldnt afford it anymore and what were they going to do about it. After a couple of transfers, the rep put me on a payment plan that lowered my interest on my Chase card to 6% and the minimum to $80/mo. To get it though you have to close the account. I didnt care because it wasnt my oldest card and I had already cut up the card a couple of months ago. Now I am on my way to paying it off quicker!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How I negotiated with my credit card company was that- I didnt. I called said I couldnt afford it anymore and what were they going to do about it. After a couple of transfers, the rep put me on a payment plan that lowered my interest on my Chase card to 6% and the minimum to $80/mo. To get it though you have to close the account. I didnt care because it wasnt my oldest card and I had already cut up the card a couple of months ago. Now I am on my way to paying it off quicker!</p>
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		<title>By: Brad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:42:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wrote a blog entry about this very topic a couple of weeks ago. Everyone I know likes to pay off the small balances first for that psych boost. I know I am the very same way. 

If I was to put everything on my higher limit cards I&#039;d get disgruntled pretty fast. I know this because I have done that before and been there. Now that I see my smaller cards disappearing, I feel much more confident in my ability to control my debt. Sure I lose a few $ in interest fees but I feel more in control which to me is more important. I know it makes no sense to people who are snowballing but to me it makes all the sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wrote a blog entry about this very topic a couple of weeks ago. Everyone I know likes to pay off the small balances first for that psych boost. I know I am the very same way. </p>
<p>If I was to put everything on my higher limit cards I&#8217;d get disgruntled pretty fast. I know this because I have done that before and been there. Now that I see my smaller cards disappearing, I feel much more confident in my ability to control my debt. Sure I lose a few $ in interest fees but I feel more in control which to me is more important. I know it makes no sense to people who are snowballing but to me it makes all the sense.</p>
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		<title>By: Ro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 15:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are in step two and I feel like it&#039;s been forever, and some days it feels like it will be forever until we move on to step three.  However, we keep trying to find more areas to cut back on and add that to our debt snowball, and I know we&#039;ll get there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are in step two and I feel like it&#8217;s been forever, and some days it feels like it will be forever until we move on to step three.  However, we keep trying to find more areas to cut back on and add that to our debt snowball, and I know we&#8217;ll get there.</p>
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		<title>By: Kandace</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kandace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 04:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I echo the previous commenter&#039;s post: running a marathon is not easy nor does the finish line come any time too soon.

To run a marathon takes months of training--perhaps Ramsay&#039;s earlier baby steps prior to the debt snowball makes a good analogy.

Running a marathon--and getting out of debt with a snowball--is more of a mental exercise than a physical one. Once the body is tired or hits a wall, it&#039;s the mental training that takes over in order to finish the race.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I echo the previous commenter&#8217;s post: running a marathon is not easy nor does the finish line come any time too soon.</p>
<p>To run a marathon takes months of training&#8211;perhaps Ramsay&#8217;s earlier baby steps prior to the debt snowball makes a good analogy.</p>
<p>Running a marathon&#8211;and getting out of debt with a snowball&#8211;is more of a mental exercise than a physical one. Once the body is tired or hits a wall, it&#8217;s the mental training that takes over in order to finish the race.</p>
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		<title>By: DB Cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>DB Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 23:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Is it that hard? I think it’s hard in the sense that when you’re standing there at the starting line of a marathon, the finish line looks impossibly far away. Then you start running and you’re caught up in the race. You get into a rhythm, you’re gliding along, and before you know it, the finish line is there.&quot;

I realize this was meant as a metaphor, but - obviously - you have never run a marathon. I&#039;ve completed several, and never, not once has the finish line simply been there before I knew it!

Regarding debt snowballing, it is what has worked to get us out of over $35,000 in credit card and auto loan debt in just two years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Is it that hard? I think it’s hard in the sense that when you’re standing there at the starting line of a marathon, the finish line looks impossibly far away. Then you start running and you’re caught up in the race. You get into a rhythm, you’re gliding along, and before you know it, the finish line is there.&#8221;</p>
<p>I realize this was meant as a metaphor, but &#8211; obviously &#8211; you have never run a marathon. I&#8217;ve completed several, and never, not once has the finish line simply been there before I knew it!</p>
<p>Regarding debt snowballing, it is what has worked to get us out of over $35,000 in credit card and auto loan debt in just two years.</p>
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		<title>By: Lynne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 21:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When my husband was diagnosed with cancer and we knew he would not survive I realized I had to take charge of some debts that I would not be able to carry on my income alone. We didn&#039;t have credit card debt, but we had a large car payment, and our house payment. I paid off the car first even though it had a 0% financing. The monthly payment was actually a higher dollar amount than our house because I had been paying down on it, and they kept re-adjusting the payment. So I added extra $$ to the car payment. As soon as it was paid off, I added that much extra to the house payment &amp; soon that was paid off. I figured it would be better to be left with the smaller monthly payment than the larger one if it came to that. My husband did pass away, and the extra money we had in our regular account was quickly depleted dealing with his illness &amp; the expenses involved. Fortunately I have a reserve fund I had built up, and there is a small IRA that was all we were able to salvage when his company&#039;s retirement went the way of so many other peoples funds. I&#039;m not complaining--we had a good life while it lasted (35 years of marriage), and I am getting by. I have my family &amp; my church &amp; my job, so I am more blessed than many others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When my husband was diagnosed with cancer and we knew he would not survive I realized I had to take charge of some debts that I would not be able to carry on my income alone. We didn&#8217;t have credit card debt, but we had a large car payment, and our house payment. I paid off the car first even though it had a 0% financing. The monthly payment was actually a higher dollar amount than our house because I had been paying down on it, and they kept re-adjusting the payment. So I added extra $$ to the car payment. As soon as it was paid off, I added that much extra to the house payment &amp; soon that was paid off. I figured it would be better to be left with the smaller monthly payment than the larger one if it came to that. My husband did pass away, and the extra money we had in our regular account was quickly depleted dealing with his illness &amp; the expenses involved. Fortunately I have a reserve fund I had built up, and there is a small IRA that was all we were able to salvage when his company&#8217;s retirement went the way of so many other peoples funds. I&#8217;m not complaining&#8211;we had a good life while it lasted (35 years of marriage), and I am getting by. I have my family &amp; my church &amp; my job, so I am more blessed than many others.</p>
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		<title>By: Amateur</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amateur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 18:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Response to Kai:

You must live in a really great city! There are not showers in many workplaces, unfortunately, here in the states in the northeast unless you worked at a sports club, spa, hospital, or some facility equipped for showering. 

The other issue with biking to work is the lack of bike racks for the bikes or workplaces that allow storage of bikes. Most folks end up chaining their bikes to random lamp posts and no parking signs. In addition to that, bike seats and front wheels (for nicer bikes) must be removed or they will be stolen here (New York City). 

It gets extremely cumbersome to bike with a set of work clothes, shoes, lunch, laptop perhaps, and having to lug the front wheel, bike helmet, and bike seat into the workplace. This will be especially ugly when it sleets or rains. 

The bike lanes are still a nice addition and it would be even nicer if there were secured parking lots (like cars, but for bikes) to ensure bikes don&#039;t get stolen and are protected from vandalism.

Most people have to rely on public transportation or cars, there aren&#039;t too many ways around this. Public transportation is for the able-bodied, there are many many staircases and a stampede of people running around in the major terminals/transfer points. If someone cannot move fast enough or have back or knee problems, most transit stops do not have elevators or escalators. Big cities have 24hr public transportation, but if someone works a late or very early shift, personal safety becomes an issue and the car becomes a necessity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Response to Kai:</p>
<p>You must live in a really great city! There are not showers in many workplaces, unfortunately, here in the states in the northeast unless you worked at a sports club, spa, hospital, or some facility equipped for showering. </p>
<p>The other issue with biking to work is the lack of bike racks for the bikes or workplaces that allow storage of bikes. Most folks end up chaining their bikes to random lamp posts and no parking signs. In addition to that, bike seats and front wheels (for nicer bikes) must be removed or they will be stolen here (New York City). </p>
<p>It gets extremely cumbersome to bike with a set of work clothes, shoes, lunch, laptop perhaps, and having to lug the front wheel, bike helmet, and bike seat into the workplace. This will be especially ugly when it sleets or rains. </p>
<p>The bike lanes are still a nice addition and it would be even nicer if there were secured parking lots (like cars, but for bikes) to ensure bikes don&#8217;t get stolen and are protected from vandalism.</p>
<p>Most people have to rely on public transportation or cars, there aren&#8217;t too many ways around this. Public transportation is for the able-bodied, there are many many staircases and a stampede of people running around in the major terminals/transfer points. If someone cannot move fast enough or have back or knee problems, most transit stops do not have elevators or escalators. Big cities have 24hr public transportation, but if someone works a late or very early shift, personal safety becomes an issue and the car becomes a necessity.</p>
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		<title>By: sophia</title>
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		<dc:creator>sophia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 17:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I fully realize that Dave Ramsey isn&#039;t saying anything that isn&#039;t common sense, but something about his delivery, the way he sets up his plan, and the simplicity of it really affects people. I knew a family that all subscribed to this plan, and I&#039;m telling you seeing what they did motivated me even more. We&#039;re talking two very young couples (married at 21, first children within two years, second children shortly after) that were committed to stay at home moms, and for a while had the husband still in college AND working.. on a teacher&#039;s salary one couple paid off $18,000 in debt and purchased a home with 20% down in a little under two years, all while adding another child and getting pregnant with their third, AND buying a new van in cash, and saving up 6 months expenses... it&#039;s crazy what can be done with motivation. The other couple paid off all of their debt, had a second child, and like the first maintained a stay at home mother arrangement. About 3 years ago I started paying off my debt, while working full time and going to school full time for a master&#039;s degree, and I&#039;ll be debt free this fall. I&#039;ve passed the book along to everyone I know, just because I think it&#039;s such a good first step, especially this part, where you get focused and aim to get out from under debt. I think many areas of Dave&#039;s book can and should be tweaked, and it creeps me out when people kind of worship him, but it certainly jumpstarts a lot of people because he just understands how to get into the psychology of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I fully realize that Dave Ramsey isn&#8217;t saying anything that isn&#8217;t common sense, but something about his delivery, the way he sets up his plan, and the simplicity of it really affects people. I knew a family that all subscribed to this plan, and I&#8217;m telling you seeing what they did motivated me even more. We&#8217;re talking two very young couples (married at 21, first children within two years, second children shortly after) that were committed to stay at home moms, and for a while had the husband still in college AND working.. on a teacher&#8217;s salary one couple paid off $18,000 in debt and purchased a home with 20% down in a little under two years, all while adding another child and getting pregnant with their third, AND buying a new van in cash, and saving up 6 months expenses&#8230; it&#8217;s crazy what can be done with motivation. The other couple paid off all of their debt, had a second child, and like the first maintained a stay at home mother arrangement. About 3 years ago I started paying off my debt, while working full time and going to school full time for a master&#8217;s degree, and I&#8217;ll be debt free this fall. I&#8217;ve passed the book along to everyone I know, just because I think it&#8217;s such a good first step, especially this part, where you get focused and aim to get out from under debt. I think many areas of Dave&#8217;s book can and should be tweaked, and it creeps me out when people kind of worship him, but it certainly jumpstarts a lot of people because he just understands how to get into the psychology of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Caroline</title>
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		<dc:creator>Caroline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 17:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On finding things to give up - so true! Once the cable is gone, you don&#039;t miss it!  Having read &quot;How To Live Well Without A Car,&quot; I&#039;m convinced to ditch that too.  Renting is usually better than buying (when it comes to most things). I&#039;m trying to figure out how to enjoy cooking....eating out is my real Achilles heal.  At least I usually drink water with everything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On finding things to give up &#8211; so true! Once the cable is gone, you don&#8217;t miss it!  Having read &#8220;How To Live Well Without A Car,&#8221; I&#8217;m convinced to ditch that too.  Renting is usually better than buying (when it comes to most things). I&#8217;m trying to figure out how to enjoy cooking&#8230;.eating out is my real Achilles heal.  At least I usually drink water with everything.</p>
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		<title>By: Lenore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lenore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 10:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is completely off-topic, but I wanted to say it before I forget.  Trent, I think it would be really helpful and important to your readers if you delved into the proposed U.S. health care reform.  Could you break it down into simple terms, do a cost-benefit analysis or discuss some of the major goals or stumbling blocks?  Whether it passes or not is going to affect all of our financial futures, so I thought you might want to address it in the near future.  Thanks!  (And keep plugging away on the weight loss, 5K, creative writing goals, etc.  You bring a lot of sunshine to a lot of lives and deserve all the best!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is completely off-topic, but I wanted to say it before I forget.  Trent, I think it would be really helpful and important to your readers if you delved into the proposed U.S. health care reform.  Could you break it down into simple terms, do a cost-benefit analysis or discuss some of the major goals or stumbling blocks?  Whether it passes or not is going to affect all of our financial futures, so I thought you might want to address it in the near future.  Thanks!  (And keep plugging away on the weight loss, 5K, creative writing goals, etc.  You bring a lot of sunshine to a lot of lives and deserve all the best!)</p>
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		<title>By: Katie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 06:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it was this blog that mentioned the psychological snowball. I am the most upset about one card that is not my smallest balance. If I pay that off (and I am working on it!) I&#039;ll feel GREAT so I am focusing my efforts there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it was this blog that mentioned the psychological snowball. I am the most upset about one card that is not my smallest balance. If I pay that off (and I am working on it!) I&#8217;ll feel GREAT so I am focusing my efforts there.</p>
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		<title>By: Kacie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kacie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 02:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another advantage to paying off your smallest debt first -- you get rid of that minimum payment ASAP. 

If a crisis comes up and you need to temporarily halt your snowball, that&#039;s one less payment you need to factor in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another advantage to paying off your smallest debt first &#8212; you get rid of that minimum payment ASAP. </p>
<p>If a crisis comes up and you need to temporarily halt your snowball, that&#8217;s one less payment you need to factor in.</p>
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		<title>By: anne</title>
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		<dc:creator>anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 21:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey #12- kai

i don&#039;t know if it&#039;s the same everywhere, but here in connecticut i bought a family ymca membership, and it allows us to go to any ymca in the state-

that could be very helpful to someone who lives in one town and bikes to another

and stop and shop and shop rite will deliver groceries- that&#039;s another way to help w/ the grocery shopping w/out a car

for a while we were a one car family, and i was able to walk to work, so we were ok.

i think you&#039;re smart to not get a car if there&#039;s any way to avoid it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey #12- kai</p>
<p>i don&#8217;t know if it&#8217;s the same everywhere, but here in connecticut i bought a family ymca membership, and it allows us to go to any ymca in the state-</p>
<p>that could be very helpful to someone who lives in one town and bikes to another</p>
<p>and stop and shop and shop rite will deliver groceries- that&#8217;s another way to help w/ the grocery shopping w/out a car</p>
<p>for a while we were a one car family, and i was able to walk to work, so we were ok.</p>
<p>i think you&#8217;re smart to not get a car if there&#8217;s any way to avoid it.</p>
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		<title>By: Anne M. Ferguson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anne M. Ferguson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 21:46:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those in urban areas, ZipCar and here in the Bay Area also CityCarShare are viable options to owning a car.  I haven&#039;t owned a car for 3 years, but use CityCarShare for errands, even overnight. There are 3 cars within walking distance. The concept is growing by leaps and bounds in larger areas. However, in smaller and rural areas, public transportation or shared car usage just isn&#039;t an option (yet).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those in urban areas, ZipCar and here in the Bay Area also CityCarShare are viable options to owning a car.  I haven&#8217;t owned a car for 3 years, but use CityCarShare for errands, even overnight. There are 3 cars within walking distance. The concept is growing by leaps and bounds in larger areas. However, in smaller and rural areas, public transportation or shared car usage just isn&#8217;t an option (yet).</p>
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		<title>By: Kai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 21:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To comment #10-
As a bike commuter who does it despite all those problems you mentioned, I&#039;d really like the bike lane.  I unfortuantely know many people who would seriously consider biking but for the traffic issues.  I go anyways, but definitely don&#039;t care for the danger level.  
The online converter I have found has translated your (presumably fahrenheit) 20degrees to a nice mild -6.7.  If that&#039;s the worst it gets in your parts, you really have no excuse for not biking!  

The inevitable sweatiness of biking is the only valid point.  Luckily, many workplaces have showers, so you can bike in in your biking clothes, then shower and get dressed for work there.  Alternately, I know a number of people who are members of the gym I work at - bike downtown to the gym, do their workout, then shower, dress, and walk to work.  Convenient even to leave the bike and biking stuff at the gym.  

For those without this nicety - well, that&#039;s another small infrastructure change that would enable more people to bike-commute.  It doesn&#039;t take much work to put a shower stall in one of the bathrooms, and that would make a big difference.  Much smaller even a change than the bike lane.  

(I don&#039;t own a car, because I can&#039;t afford one.  Nor am I foolish enough to go into debt to do so.  That said, it is definitely a pain to not own a car for anything.  Groceries in small trips only, hour-long train rides to visit some friends, and dependence on others for some trips.  As a devoted mountain-person, I get out of the city a couple times a week, and get by going with other people (for a share of gas money), but that means that I get to live without a car only because others dont.  And no, you can&#039;t get out to my mountains without a car.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To comment #10-<br />
As a bike commuter who does it despite all those problems you mentioned, I&#8217;d really like the bike lane.  I unfortuantely know many people who would seriously consider biking but for the traffic issues.  I go anyways, but definitely don&#8217;t care for the danger level.<br />
The online converter I have found has translated your (presumably fahrenheit) 20degrees to a nice mild -6.7.  If that&#8217;s the worst it gets in your parts, you really have no excuse for not biking!  </p>
<p>The inevitable sweatiness of biking is the only valid point.  Luckily, many workplaces have showers, so you can bike in in your biking clothes, then shower and get dressed for work there.  Alternately, I know a number of people who are members of the gym I work at &#8211; bike downtown to the gym, do their workout, then shower, dress, and walk to work.  Convenient even to leave the bike and biking stuff at the gym.  </p>
<p>For those without this nicety &#8211; well, that&#8217;s another small infrastructure change that would enable more people to bike-commute.  It doesn&#8217;t take much work to put a shower stall in one of the bathrooms, and that would make a big difference.  Much smaller even a change than the bike lane.  </p>
<p>(I don&#8217;t own a car, because I can&#8217;t afford one.  Nor am I foolish enough to go into debt to do so.  That said, it is definitely a pain to not own a car for anything.  Groceries in small trips only, hour-long train rides to visit some friends, and dependence on others for some trips.  As a devoted mountain-person, I get out of the city a couple times a week, and get by going with other people (for a share of gas money), but that means that I get to live without a car only because others dont.  And no, you can&#8217;t get out to my mountains without a car.)</p>
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		<title>By: Geektronica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geektronica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 18:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is by far the most important chapter in Dave&#039;s book. I think he makes a good point that you don&#039;t get anywhere by trying to chip away at 10 different debt payments all at the same time - pay the minimum on all except the smallest, and tackle the smallest debt with everything you&#039;ve got. Rinse and repeat.

Another psychological benefit of the debt snowball is the increasing reward of focus: as you pay off each little debt, you get more and more focused on the big ones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is by far the most important chapter in Dave&#8217;s book. I think he makes a good point that you don&#8217;t get anywhere by trying to chip away at 10 different debt payments all at the same time &#8211; pay the minimum on all except the smallest, and tackle the smallest debt with everything you&#8217;ve got. Rinse and repeat.</p>
<p>Another psychological benefit of the debt snowball is the increasing reward of focus: as you pay off each little debt, you get more and more focused on the big ones.</p>
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