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	<title>Comments on: The Short Term and the Long Term Choice</title>
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		<title>By: Jen</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/08/06/the-short-term-and-the-long-term-choice/comment-page-1/#comment-749297</link>
		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 09:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are very few (if any) processed foods that are good for you... &quot;Baked&quot; or not.  YUCK!!!  If you have ever seen a commercial for a product, don&#039;t buy it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are very few (if any) processed foods that are good for you&#8230; &#8220;Baked&#8221; or not.  YUCK!!!  If you have ever seen a commercial for a product, don&#8217;t buy it.</p>
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		<title>By: Eden Jaeger</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/08/06/the-short-term-and-the-long-term-choice/comment-page-1/#comment-747558</link>
		<dc:creator>Eden Jaeger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 14:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent article!

I imagine my life would be much different if I always looked at the long term when making a decision. For some reason, I never do...I need to figure out how to make that a habit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent article!</p>
<p>I imagine my life would be much different if I always looked at the long term when making a decision. For some reason, I never do&#8230;I need to figure out how to make that a habit.</p>
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		<title>By: deRuiter</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/08/06/the-short-term-and-the-long-term-choice/comment-page-1/#comment-747523</link>
		<dc:creator>deRuiter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 13:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with trying to save up the entire amount to pay off a house is that interest rates are minimal, and the government taxes you on the interest you earn.  Paying extra on your mortgage each month brings down the length of the mortgage, and the amount of interest to be repaid.  During  the first third of the mortgage term, the amount you save on interest is dramatic. If you own a house and are having difficulties paying the mortgage, you can be creative and wring money FROM the house:  Move out of one or two bedrooms and rent them.  Empty the garage, sell the junk at a yard sale, and rent the garage to someone else.  Have a yard?  Plant a vegetbable garden with yard sale purchased tools.  Start a business you can run out of your house while you live there.  Rent out the house and move in with relatives.  SINCE REAL ESTATE VALUE IS DOWN, GO TO THE TOWN HALL AND HAVE YOUR REAL ESTATE ASSESSMENT LOWERED SO YOUR PROPERTY TAXES GO DOWN.  Be creative!  As to worrying about getting fired, START A SIDE BUSINESS, OR GET A PART TIME JOB AND BUILD UP A CUSHION OF SAVINGS.  Everyone has their own ideas, but for me, prepaying on the mortgage saved thousands of dollars, and years of monthly payments!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with trying to save up the entire amount to pay off a house is that interest rates are minimal, and the government taxes you on the interest you earn.  Paying extra on your mortgage each month brings down the length of the mortgage, and the amount of interest to be repaid.  During  the first third of the mortgage term, the amount you save on interest is dramatic. If you own a house and are having difficulties paying the mortgage, you can be creative and wring money FROM the house:  Move out of one or two bedrooms and rent them.  Empty the garage, sell the junk at a yard sale, and rent the garage to someone else.  Have a yard?  Plant a vegetbable garden with yard sale purchased tools.  Start a business you can run out of your house while you live there.  Rent out the house and move in with relatives.  SINCE REAL ESTATE VALUE IS DOWN, GO TO THE TOWN HALL AND HAVE YOUR REAL ESTATE ASSESSMENT LOWERED SO YOUR PROPERTY TAXES GO DOWN.  Be creative!  As to worrying about getting fired, START A SIDE BUSINESS, OR GET A PART TIME JOB AND BUILD UP A CUSHION OF SAVINGS.  Everyone has their own ideas, but for me, prepaying on the mortgage saved thousands of dollars, and years of monthly payments!</p>
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		<title>By: Eli Sarver</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/08/06/the-short-term-and-the-long-term-choice/comment-page-1/#comment-747497</link>
		<dc:creator>Eli Sarver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 12:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, on renting vs. buying: Roofs, windows, air conditioning units, appliances, new carpet, new paint, new fixtures, association dues, et cetera. 

Rent may go up, but the factors outside of the rent-vs-buy dichotomy do add up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, on renting vs. buying: Roofs, windows, air conditioning units, appliances, new carpet, new paint, new fixtures, association dues, et cetera. </p>
<p>Rent may go up, but the factors outside of the rent-vs-buy dichotomy do add up.</p>
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		<title>By: Claudia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Claudia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 11:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Baked Lays and Baked Ruffles have a little less fat, but nearly as many calories.  So, healthier for you?  Just Barely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Baked Lays and Baked Ruffles have a little less fat, but nearly as many calories.  So, healthier for you?  Just Barely.</p>
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		<title>By: Lenore</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/08/06/the-short-term-and-the-long-term-choice/comment-page-1/#comment-747409</link>
		<dc:creator>Lenore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 10:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tangent time!  About the junk food...  Baked Lays and Baked Ruffles used to cost the same as regular Lays and Ruffles.  Today I noticed they&#039;re $1 more per bag with no extra ounces or improvements.  Frito-Lay is obviously betting that health-conscious consumers are willing to pay more, but why should we have to?  When major food manufacturers make decisions like this, they directly fuel the obesity epidemic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tangent time!  About the junk food&#8230;  Baked Lays and Baked Ruffles used to cost the same as regular Lays and Ruffles.  Today I noticed they&#8217;re $1 more per bag with no extra ounces or improvements.  Frito-Lay is obviously betting that health-conscious consumers are willing to pay more, but why should we have to?  When major food manufacturers make decisions like this, they directly fuel the obesity epidemic.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 09:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This post falls in line with a recent book I discovered called Don&#039;t Eat The Marshmellow... Yet! by Joachim de Posada. It&#039;s a parable that describes what can happen if you take the short term immediate rewards over delayed gratification for a long term favorable result. 

Every day we face choices where we can have the fast fix or we can go for the slow burn. It&#039;s tougher for people to visualize what will happen five years from now versus experiencing what will happen five minutes from now. My wife and I are teaching our children about tough decisions currently when it comes to where our money goes- as we will be cutting down on our cable access and eating at home more to place money in areas we believe are most important (emergency fund, paying down debt). 

Excellent post Trent, keep up the great work and making people think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post falls in line with a recent book I discovered called Don&#8217;t Eat The Marshmellow&#8230; Yet! by Joachim de Posada. It&#8217;s a parable that describes what can happen if you take the short term immediate rewards over delayed gratification for a long term favorable result. </p>
<p>Every day we face choices where we can have the fast fix or we can go for the slow burn. It&#8217;s tougher for people to visualize what will happen five years from now versus experiencing what will happen five minutes from now. My wife and I are teaching our children about tough decisions currently when it comes to where our money goes- as we will be cutting down on our cable access and eating at home more to place money in areas we believe are most important (emergency fund, paying down debt). </p>
<p>Excellent post Trent, keep up the great work and making people think.</p>
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		<title>By: Suzanne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suzanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 22:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I liked this part &quot;Spend a day thinking about what this activity will be worth to you in five years.&quot;

I also liked Damester&#039;s idea (#11) &quot;Ask them just to think about how they’ll feel very soon. Because when you make bad choices daily (food intake, spending habits, activity choices), you DO generally have a negative correlation much sooner in real life. Your clothes don’t fit, you can’t afford to pay bills or do things you want, you feel miserable after spending time with people you don’t want to, you beat yourself up for wasting time better spent on earning income, etc.&quot;

Great post that definitely has me thinking. Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked this part &#8220;Spend a day thinking about what this activity will be worth to you in five years.&#8221;</p>
<p>I also liked Damester&#8217;s idea (#11) &#8220;Ask them just to think about how they’ll feel very soon. Because when you make bad choices daily (food intake, spending habits, activity choices), you DO generally have a negative correlation much sooner in real life. Your clothes don’t fit, you can’t afford to pay bills or do things you want, you feel miserable after spending time with people you don’t want to, you beat yourself up for wasting time better spent on earning income, etc.&#8221;</p>
<p>Great post that definitely has me thinking. Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: tentaculistic</title>
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		<dc:creator>tentaculistic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 21:25:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the post Trent.  It was a good point, and so apropos for me right now.  I&#039;m training for a triathlon to fundraise for leukemia and lymphoma research, and I struggle to get the motivation to work out, especially when work is as gruelling as it has been lately. I have to put down the great mind-relaxing book and uncurl myself from the sofa and exercise, which just is never as fun as the sofa and book! You&#039;re right, though, the long-term benefits always require short-term trade-offs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the post Trent.  It was a good point, and so apropos for me right now.  I&#8217;m training for a triathlon to fundraise for leukemia and lymphoma research, and I struggle to get the motivation to work out, especially when work is as gruelling as it has been lately. I have to put down the great mind-relaxing book and uncurl myself from the sofa and exercise, which just is never as fun as the sofa and book! You&#8217;re right, though, the long-term benefits always require short-term trade-offs.</p>
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		<title>By: Brendan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brendan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 20:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jackie:

Be careful about that strategy. If your new landlord is foreclosed, it can be quite inconvenient to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jackie:</p>
<p>Be careful about that strategy. If your new landlord is foreclosed, it can be quite inconvenient to you.</p>
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		<title>By: Rosa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rosa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 20:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even without a big runup, if your landlord inherited the house her parents lived in, or bought in 1970, prices are higher now.

And the equivalency thing is hard, because a lot of times you just can&#039;t buy the house you want in the are you want/need. I know a number of people who would really *like* a smaller house but the area they wanted was all new construction, which tends to be gigantic. I would like a newer house, but it&#039;s just not possible in our neighborhood (or, it is possible but it&#039;s not really comparable because we would have to buy an older house just to knock it down, and and count all of that in the cost of the new house.)

It&#039;s not like most products, where you are pretty much choosing the product - a huge part of housing cost is just location.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even without a big runup, if your landlord inherited the house her parents lived in, or bought in 1970, prices are higher now.</p>
<p>And the equivalency thing is hard, because a lot of times you just can&#8217;t buy the house you want in the are you want/need. I know a number of people who would really *like* a smaller house but the area they wanted was all new construction, which tends to be gigantic. I would like a newer house, but it&#8217;s just not possible in our neighborhood (or, it is possible but it&#8217;s not really comparable because we would have to buy an older house just to knock it down, and and count all of that in the cost of the new house.)</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not like most products, where you are pretty much choosing the product &#8211; a huge part of housing cost is just location.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 19:48:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rosa and Jackie, I guess this is a bad time for me to generalize like that.  My market never saw a big run-up or a crash, so rents stayed higher. (The possibility that the mortgaged homes are nicer is, again, not comparing equivalent houses.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rosa and Jackie, I guess this is a bad time for me to generalize like that.  My market never saw a big run-up or a crash, so rents stayed higher. (The possibility that the mortgaged homes are nicer is, again, not comparing equivalent houses.)</p>
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		<title>By: Jackie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jackie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 19:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#13 Rosa is correct with my experience, at least in the current housing situation.  I&#039;ve explored the idea of renting out my house and moving to a cheap apartment. The rentals in my neighborhood are renting at about $400 less than my mortgage payments.  Many of those landlords are loosing money every month, but can&#039;t sell because the houses are worth less than are owed on them.  Others are doing OK because they&#039;ve owned the houses since before housing prices went to the sky.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#13 Rosa is correct with my experience, at least in the current housing situation.  I&#8217;ve explored the idea of renting out my house and moving to a cheap apartment. The rentals in my neighborhood are renting at about $400 less than my mortgage payments.  Many of those landlords are loosing money every month, but can&#8217;t sell because the houses are worth less than are owed on them.  Others are doing OK because they&#8217;ve owned the houses since before housing prices went to the sky.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 19:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice write up Trent.  Like Frugal New Yorker, I thought you were leading up to something long-term for TSD.  It&#039;s always a good time to step back and look at the big picture - whether it be your life, relationships or career.  Thanks for the reminder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice write up Trent.  Like Frugal New Yorker, I thought you were leading up to something long-term for TSD.  It&#8217;s always a good time to step back and look at the big picture &#8211; whether it be your life, relationships or career.  Thanks for the reminder.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin@OutOfYourRut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin@OutOfYourRut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 18:51:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trent, I think you&#039;re getting down to the very mechanics of a bad habit.  We gravitate toward the path of least resistance, so we select fast and easy without even much thought. 

Unfortunately, that&#039;s our &quot;default setting&quot;; it&#039;s what we&#039;ll always chose to unless we conciously resist.  And that&#039;s not easy either, so we don&#039;t do that without strong resolve.

Your idea to ask how we&#039;ll feel about a certain action in five years is a good step, and we probably all could do with figuring out what mental steps we need to make better choices.  On the surface it SHOULD be easy, but what we&#039;re really doing is trying to override our internal programing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trent, I think you&#8217;re getting down to the very mechanics of a bad habit.  We gravitate toward the path of least resistance, so we select fast and easy without even much thought. </p>
<p>Unfortunately, that&#8217;s our &#8220;default setting&#8221;; it&#8217;s what we&#8217;ll always chose to unless we conciously resist.  And that&#8217;s not easy either, so we don&#8217;t do that without strong resolve.</p>
<p>Your idea to ask how we&#8217;ll feel about a certain action in five years is a good step, and we probably all could do with figuring out what mental steps we need to make better choices.  On the surface it SHOULD be easy, but what we&#8217;re really doing is trying to override our internal programing.</p>
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		<title>By: Rosa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rosa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 18:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Michael #6 - it&#039;s totally possible for rent to be cheaper for you than a mortgage would be for you. 

The landlord&#039;s mortgage may be less than yours because the landlord bought in the past when prices were lower, or because the landlord gets a lower interest rate than you do or financed with cash. 

Or the market may be pushing the landlord to charge less than the mortgage. 

Or the rental market in your area may be aimed at a low-income demographic while the homes for sale market is aimed at higher-income people and the houses are all bigger/fancier than you need.

It&#039;s really a local, individual problem and not an issue where one is always better than the other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Michael #6 &#8211; it&#8217;s totally possible for rent to be cheaper for you than a mortgage would be for you. </p>
<p>The landlord&#8217;s mortgage may be less than yours because the landlord bought in the past when prices were lower, or because the landlord gets a lower interest rate than you do or financed with cash. </p>
<p>Or the market may be pushing the landlord to charge less than the mortgage. </p>
<p>Or the rental market in your area may be aimed at a low-income demographic while the homes for sale market is aimed at higher-income people and the houses are all bigger/fancier than you need.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s really a local, individual problem and not an issue where one is always better than the other.</p>
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		<title>By: Gwen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gwen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 18:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trent, I think this cuts to the core of a lot of negative behaviors that we keep doing even though we all know the behavior is destructive. You highlighted some thought exercises that you can do at the end of the post to help us value longer-term investments over short-term gains. I would be **very interested** in a post expanding on that idea. What are some other psychological tricks we can play on ourselves to help us resist just doing what feels good here and now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trent, I think this cuts to the core of a lot of negative behaviors that we keep doing even though we all know the behavior is destructive. You highlighted some thought exercises that you can do at the end of the post to help us value longer-term investments over short-term gains. I would be **very interested** in a post expanding on that idea. What are some other psychological tricks we can play on ourselves to help us resist just doing what feels good here and now?</p>
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		<title>By: Damester</title>
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		<dc:creator>Damester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 17:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The issue is often one of discipline and delayed satisfaction. Things that are rarely taught today in an era of immediate satisfaction and gratification. Instant everything (or almost) or the expectation of it. (Remember the good old days when almost every family saved up for anything they wanted? When you counted and recounted your savings as a kid till you could afford something special and how many times you visited the toy store before a particular item was yours? Ah, anticipation in the best sense.)

Balance is also important, because we do live in the now and have to be aware of the &quot;right now&quot; but also must be concerned with the future.

The reason so many people can&#039;t think ahead is because their mental and physical energies are still needed for the literal &quot;daily grind.&quot;

many people, Trent, are still living a hand to mouth existence these days, even when they want to plan ahead. And the stress and strains of daily life have a lot to do with the &quot;desire&quot; for comfort food. Plus, if you don&#039;t eat healthy, you can&#039;t understand its&#039; benefits. Forced to eat lots of carbs? It changes your brain chemistry and affects cravings for unhealthy foods. It&#039;s all tied in.

At best, for these folks, it&#039;s truly stretching the dollars available to them now and trying to upgrade skills and get a better job. Although these days, when people are going back to school in their 40s and 50s to learn new skills in the hope of finding some kind of job...it&#039;s still a struggle.

I think people need more &quot;in the moment&quot; awareness to focus on the positive aspects of a healthy choice (whether it&#039;s NOT spending money to save it or not eating unhealthy food). Many people get over their infatuation with eating unhealthy food, or too much food, by reminding themselves of how they generally feel afterwards or how they feel when they weigh themselves or when their clothes don&#039;t fit. Things they do every day.

If you have to dwell on the negative aspects--not having money to pay bills--to keep you from making an unhealthy for you choice, then do it.

Awareness, mindfulness in the moment always help.
Really think about what you want, and why. Too much of our lives is habit and acting without thinking. The brain is desensitized as it were. 

Asking people to think five years ahead...nah, most people can&#039;t and won&#039;t. it&#039;s too unreal to most.

Ask them just to think about how they&#039;ll feel very soon. Because when you make bad choices daily (food intake, spending habits, activity choices), you DO generally have a negative correlation much sooner in real life.  Your clothes don&#039;t fit, you can&#039;t afford to pay bills or do things you want, you feel miserable after spending time with people you don&#039;t want to, you beat yourself up for wasting time better spent on earning income, etc.

Of course, some people have no real sense that what they do is harmful or don&#039;t care. But that&#039;s another story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The issue is often one of discipline and delayed satisfaction. Things that are rarely taught today in an era of immediate satisfaction and gratification. Instant everything (or almost) or the expectation of it. (Remember the good old days when almost every family saved up for anything they wanted? When you counted and recounted your savings as a kid till you could afford something special and how many times you visited the toy store before a particular item was yours? Ah, anticipation in the best sense.)</p>
<p>Balance is also important, because we do live in the now and have to be aware of the &#8220;right now&#8221; but also must be concerned with the future.</p>
<p>The reason so many people can&#8217;t think ahead is because their mental and physical energies are still needed for the literal &#8220;daily grind.&#8221;</p>
<p>many people, Trent, are still living a hand to mouth existence these days, even when they want to plan ahead. And the stress and strains of daily life have a lot to do with the &#8220;desire&#8221; for comfort food. Plus, if you don&#8217;t eat healthy, you can&#8217;t understand its&#8217; benefits. Forced to eat lots of carbs? It changes your brain chemistry and affects cravings for unhealthy foods. It&#8217;s all tied in.</p>
<p>At best, for these folks, it&#8217;s truly stretching the dollars available to them now and trying to upgrade skills and get a better job. Although these days, when people are going back to school in their 40s and 50s to learn new skills in the hope of finding some kind of job&#8230;it&#8217;s still a struggle.</p>
<p>I think people need more &#8220;in the moment&#8221; awareness to focus on the positive aspects of a healthy choice (whether it&#8217;s NOT spending money to save it or not eating unhealthy food). Many people get over their infatuation with eating unhealthy food, or too much food, by reminding themselves of how they generally feel afterwards or how they feel when they weigh themselves or when their clothes don&#8217;t fit. Things they do every day.</p>
<p>If you have to dwell on the negative aspects&#8211;not having money to pay bills&#8211;to keep you from making an unhealthy for you choice, then do it.</p>
<p>Awareness, mindfulness in the moment always help.<br />
Really think about what you want, and why. Too much of our lives is habit and acting without thinking. The brain is desensitized as it were. </p>
<p>Asking people to think five years ahead&#8230;nah, most people can&#8217;t and won&#8217;t. it&#8217;s too unreal to most.</p>
<p>Ask them just to think about how they&#8217;ll feel very soon. Because when you make bad choices daily (food intake, spending habits, activity choices), you DO generally have a negative correlation much sooner in real life.  Your clothes don&#8217;t fit, you can&#8217;t afford to pay bills or do things you want, you feel miserable after spending time with people you don&#8217;t want to, you beat yourself up for wasting time better spent on earning income, etc.</p>
<p>Of course, some people have no real sense that what they do is harmful or don&#8217;t care. But that&#8217;s another story.</p>
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		<title>By: Pizpo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pizpo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 16:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with # 7 Troy.  You must keep as much flexibility as possible.  

#8 Craig.  As you continue to focus on long term gain, your mind will change about &quot;short term fun.&quot;  I have been really focused on long term for about 5 years now and am starting to realize that I do not really value many things that my peers value even though I can now easily afford them.  

Trent:  To me, this article is another one where you are integrating finance and health.  I like it.  Gold cannot buy health.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with # 7 Troy.  You must keep as much flexibility as possible.  </p>
<p>#8 Craig.  As you continue to focus on long term gain, your mind will change about &#8220;short term fun.&#8221;  I have been really focused on long term for about 5 years now and am starting to realize that I do not really value many things that my peers value even though I can now easily afford them.  </p>
<p>Trent:  To me, this article is another one where you are integrating finance and health.  I like it.  Gold cannot buy health.</p>
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		<title>By: Foxie@CarsxGirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Foxie@CarsxGirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 16:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Makes a lot of sense, but I try to aim for a bit of both.

For example: My newest car and my Roth IRA. I really can&#039;t afford to pay towards both. I want to pay off the car, but I want to invest in my IRA.

My compromise? Telling myself that it&#039;ll be OK if I don&#039;t contribute the $1,000 I wanted to this year to my IRA. If I can make it to $500 or $750, that&#039;s more than most other 21 year olds out there, and it&#039;ll still be money I&#039;m glad I saved. On the other hand, I can throw a lot of money at the car, pay off my loan and build my credit, plus have an awesome project for my husband and me to work on.

Guess I ought to note that I&#039;m okay with lower Roth IRA contributions because of my 401(k) contributions that I started this year. 4%, matched by my company dollar-for-dollar with immediate vesting. Means I ought to be pretty close to on track with the $1k retirement contributions, just not in the same account.

@Craig (#8) -- I wholly agree, it&#039;s WAY more difficult to know what you should be doing but to never have enough dollars to do it all! I only hope that I can make some really good choices when I start to make more money than I am now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Makes a lot of sense, but I try to aim for a bit of both.</p>
<p>For example: My newest car and my Roth IRA. I really can&#8217;t afford to pay towards both. I want to pay off the car, but I want to invest in my IRA.</p>
<p>My compromise? Telling myself that it&#8217;ll be OK if I don&#8217;t contribute the $1,000 I wanted to this year to my IRA. If I can make it to $500 or $750, that&#8217;s more than most other 21 year olds out there, and it&#8217;ll still be money I&#8217;m glad I saved. On the other hand, I can throw a lot of money at the car, pay off my loan and build my credit, plus have an awesome project for my husband and me to work on.</p>
<p>Guess I ought to note that I&#8217;m okay with lower Roth IRA contributions because of my 401(k) contributions that I started this year. 4%, matched by my company dollar-for-dollar with immediate vesting. Means I ought to be pretty close to on track with the $1k retirement contributions, just not in the same account.</p>
<p>@Craig (#8) &#8212; I wholly agree, it&#8217;s WAY more difficult to know what you should be doing but to never have enough dollars to do it all! I only hope that I can make some really good choices when I start to make more money than I am now.</p>
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