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		<title>By: KED</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/08/09/enlightened-self-interest/#comment-752500</link>
		<dc:creator>KED</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 02:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jude- My heart stopped a beat when I read your comment. I was a single parent for a long time, worked multiple jobs, etc. At times it can be overwhelming but I am convinced there are alternatives to your 3-year plan. Writing in a journal nightly after tucking in my little one allowed me to &quot;let go&quot; of alot of my worries, anxiety, concerns. 

There is not doubt in my mind you are not invisible to your child and I am sure many others. 

I also volunteered twice a month for 4 hours at a time during that tough time period, it helped me connect to others and see myself as competent and valuable. It did my heart good and I think others as well.

Please be good to yourself and your child.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jude- My heart stopped a beat when I read your comment. I was a single parent for a long time, worked multiple jobs, etc. At times it can be overwhelming but I am convinced there are alternatives to your 3-year plan. Writing in a journal nightly after tucking in my little one allowed me to &#8220;let go&#8221; of alot of my worries, anxiety, concerns. </p>
<p>There is not doubt in my mind you are not invisible to your child and I am sure many others. </p>
<p>I also volunteered twice a month for 4 hours at a time during that tough time period, it helped me connect to others and see myself as competent and valuable. It did my heart good and I think others as well.</p>
<p>Please be good to yourself and your child.</p>
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		<title>By: Juli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Juli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 16:06:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[FYI - Adam Smith was a moral philosopher as well, so while I haven&#039;t read the Wealth of Nations, I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if I came up with the same conclusion if I ever do.

Also - as a Christian, I feel compelled to help those I come across in life.  I felt the same while an atheist for 25 years, but now there&#039;s a moral component to it.

Finally, I donate monthly to modestneeds.org .  You can decide where to give your donation from pages and pages of applicants.  This has to be one of the best returns on $20 a month ever!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI &#8211; Adam Smith was a moral philosopher as well, so while I haven&#8217;t read the Wealth of Nations, I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if I came up with the same conclusion if I ever do.</p>
<p>Also &#8211; as a Christian, I feel compelled to help those I come across in life.  I felt the same while an atheist for 25 years, but now there&#8217;s a moral component to it.</p>
<p>Finally, I donate monthly to modestneeds.org .  You can decide where to give your donation from pages and pages of applicants.  This has to be one of the best returns on $20 a month ever!</p>
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		<title>By: Todd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 02:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s interesting that so many of these posts have focused on children.  I think that&#039;s the most &quot;giving&quot; act that most of us every do, and we do it only for the good of society in the future when we&#039;ll be long gone.

If you raise children expecting to get back from them financially what you put into it, you&#039;ll most likely be very sorely disappointed.  (Did you see the recent statistic that it takes more than $200,000 to raise a child to the age of 18?)  We get back their happiness, fun, and love, if we&#039;re lucky, and grandchildren (another huge expense) also if we&#039;re lucky.  Primarily, though, the only real reason to put money and energy into raising children is the satisfaction of contributing to the future of the human race.  That&#039;s enough for me.


Jude--I&#039;ve struggled with dark times, and I&#039;ve always told myself that if I could find no hope of making myself ever feel happy, I could at least devote myself to making someone else&#039;s life happier.  

Sorry, there&#039;s no way to give unsolicited advice without sounding preachy, so here it goes:   Get help and make a difference in the lives of others.  Your comment obviously affected many people who read this site.  That should give you some idea of the potential you have for making an impact in the world.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s interesting that so many of these posts have focused on children.  I think that&#8217;s the most &#8220;giving&#8221; act that most of us every do, and we do it only for the good of society in the future when we&#8217;ll be long gone.</p>
<p>If you raise children expecting to get back from them financially what you put into it, you&#8217;ll most likely be very sorely disappointed.  (Did you see the recent statistic that it takes more than $200,000 to raise a child to the age of 18?)  We get back their happiness, fun, and love, if we&#8217;re lucky, and grandchildren (another huge expense) also if we&#8217;re lucky.  Primarily, though, the only real reason to put money and energy into raising children is the satisfaction of contributing to the future of the human race.  That&#8217;s enough for me.</p>
<p>Jude&#8211;I&#8217;ve struggled with dark times, and I&#8217;ve always told myself that if I could find no hope of making myself ever feel happy, I could at least devote myself to making someone else&#8217;s life happier.  </p>
<p>Sorry, there&#8217;s no way to give unsolicited advice without sounding preachy, so here it goes:   Get help and make a difference in the lives of others.  Your comment obviously affected many people who read this site.  That should give you some idea of the potential you have for making an impact in the world.</p>
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		<title>By: Sharon</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/08/09/enlightened-self-interest/#comment-750666</link>
		<dc:creator>Sharon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 01:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Pay it forward&quot; is a philosophy I grew up with, and one that the Masonic organizations espouse. Aside from the future contacts, possibility of repayment or return help in another way, etc., I just like to lend a helping hand because it is fun! 

My father was out on a date with my Mom, and he came upon a car in the ditch (early 1950s). He was all dressed up, but he stopped, put on some coveralls and pulled the guy&#039;s car out. The man handed him a $20 bill, which was REAL money in those days, (and which he really could have used) and Dad handed it back and just said, &quot;help someone else out instead.&quot; They guy put away the $20 and said, &quot;Hell, I wouldn&#039;t do that!&quot;

I am absolutely amazed that Dad didn&#039;t push his car back in the ditch! But Dad knew that he was a happy man, and the other guy was living a miserable life. 

That&#039;s my bottom line on helping and paying it forward.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Pay it forward&#8221; is a philosophy I grew up with, and one that the Masonic organizations espouse. Aside from the future contacts, possibility of repayment or return help in another way, etc., I just like to lend a helping hand because it is fun! </p>
<p>My father was out on a date with my Mom, and he came upon a car in the ditch (early 1950s). He was all dressed up, but he stopped, put on some coveralls and pulled the guy&#8217;s car out. The man handed him a $20 bill, which was REAL money in those days, (and which he really could have used) and Dad handed it back and just said, &#8220;help someone else out instead.&#8221; They guy put away the $20 and said, &#8220;Hell, I wouldn&#8217;t do that!&#8221;</p>
<p>I am absolutely amazed that Dad didn&#8217;t push his car back in the ditch! But Dad knew that he was a happy man, and the other guy was living a miserable life. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s my bottom line on helping and paying it forward.</p>
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		<title>By: David@dinksfinance</title>
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		<dc:creator>David@dinksfinance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 01:20:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s the thing: You can never know how a seemingly charitable act may pay off in the future.

I volunteered for two years at my church as a small group leader in the youth department.  One of the kid&#039;s in my group has a couple of great parents who I have befriended.  The kids dad deals in mergers and acquisitions.  This may help me out sometime in the future (I am in the finance field).

This is just one small example of many that I have experienced from taking part in a &quot;charitable&quot; act whose purpose was first and foremost not to benefit myself.

-DC]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the thing: You can never know how a seemingly charitable act may pay off in the future.</p>
<p>I volunteered for two years at my church as a small group leader in the youth department.  One of the kid&#8217;s in my group has a couple of great parents who I have befriended.  The kids dad deals in mergers and acquisitions.  This may help me out sometime in the future (I am in the finance field).</p>
<p>This is just one small example of many that I have experienced from taking part in a &#8220;charitable&#8221; act whose purpose was first and foremost not to benefit myself.</p>
<p>-DC</p>
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		<title>By: Katie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 20:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I really agree with the pay it forward principle based on the fact that if everyone acted that way, the world would be a much nicer place. The world can be pretty harsh, so I appreciate anyone&#039;s efforts to make it slightly gentler. Not gumdrops and ice cream, just nicer than the status quo! Great post.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really agree with the pay it forward principle based on the fact that if everyone acted that way, the world would be a much nicer place. The world can be pretty harsh, so I appreciate anyone&#8217;s efforts to make it slightly gentler. Not gumdrops and ice cream, just nicer than the status quo! Great post.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin@OutOfYourRut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin@OutOfYourRut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 18:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Marsha--&quot;Mostly I agree with you, Trent - but I would think long and hard about helping someone with whom I’m in direct competition. It’s OK for helping to be strategic.&quot;

I can certainly see your point on this, however there&#039;s a difference between being in competition with someone as opposed to being at war with them.  

Hopefully we can rise above our differences as competitors and embrace the fact that we&#039;re all part of the human community and sharing space on the same planet.  We should never forget that we&#039;re human beings first and competitors (or whatever else) as a secondary consideration.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marsha&#8211;&#8221;Mostly I agree with you, Trent &#8211; but I would think long and hard about helping someone with whom I’m in direct competition. It’s OK for helping to be strategic.&#8221;</p>
<p>I can certainly see your point on this, however there&#8217;s a difference between being in competition with someone as opposed to being at war with them.  </p>
<p>Hopefully we can rise above our differences as competitors and embrace the fact that we&#8217;re all part of the human community and sharing space on the same planet.  We should never forget that we&#8217;re human beings first and competitors (or whatever else) as a secondary consideration.</p>
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		<title>By: spaces</title>
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		<dc:creator>spaces</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Jude #7 -- 

When I was 9, my mother decided to suicide via carbon monoxide poisoning.  I came home from school early, discovered her passed out in her car, which was running.  I pulled her out, called 911.  That was the first day of dealing with my mother&#039;s suicidal tendencies, which I can only describe as a massive mind fuck.  I would say I&#039;m scarred, but I don&#039;t think it really counts as a scar if it warps you so badly that it affects every aspect of the rest of your life.  

Get help.  You chose to have and keep your child, and now you owe it to your child to be the best (living) parent you can be.  Unless you want the major take-home point of childhood to be that they, also, can&#039;t depend on anyone -- especially not their mother.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Jude #7 &#8212; </p>
<p>When I was 9, my mother decided to suicide via carbon monoxide poisoning.  I came home from school early, discovered her passed out in her car, which was running.  I pulled her out, called 911.  That was the first day of dealing with my mother&#8217;s suicidal tendencies, which I can only describe as a massive mind fuck.  I would say I&#8217;m scarred, but I don&#8217;t think it really counts as a scar if it warps you so badly that it affects every aspect of the rest of your life.  </p>
<p>Get help.  You chose to have and keep your child, and now you owe it to your child to be the best (living) parent you can be.  Unless you want the major take-home point of childhood to be that they, also, can&#8217;t depend on anyone &#8212; especially not their mother.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate in Canada</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate in Canada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jude  -  I know first-hand how hard it is being a single parent, but please don&#039;t give up! More people than just your child will miss you, believe me. 
First and most important -  see your doctor! Clinical depression is not something that just goes away on its own; it IS treatable and you WILL feel better.
Next  -  you feel &quot;invisible &quot;  -  you can change that! Just get out there and talk to people  -  any people  -  neighbours, library workers, parents of your child&#039;s friends, and so on. Volunteer somewhere  -  church, your child&#039;s school, animal shelter, food bank. MAKE yourself visible and you&#039;ll be surprised at how warm &amp; welcoming people can be if you give them a chance.
And do come back &amp; let everyone know how you&#039;re doing  :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jude  &#8211;  I know first-hand how hard it is being a single parent, but please don&#8217;t give up! More people than just your child will miss you, believe me.<br />
First and most important &#8211;  see your doctor! Clinical depression is not something that just goes away on its own; it IS treatable and you WILL feel better.<br />
Next  &#8211;  you feel &#8220;invisible &#8221;  &#8211;  you can change that! Just get out there and talk to people  &#8211;  any people  &#8211;  neighbours, library workers, parents of your child&#8217;s friends, and so on. Volunteer somewhere  &#8211;  church, your child&#8217;s school, animal shelter, food bank. MAKE yourself visible and you&#8217;ll be surprised at how warm &amp; welcoming people can be if you give them a chance.<br />
And do come back &amp; let everyone know how you&#8217;re doing  :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Trent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 13:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Mostly I agree with you, Trent - but I would think long and hard about helping someone with whom I’m in direct competition. It’s OK for helping to be strategic.&quot;

I help people I&#039;m in direct competition with all the time.  I link to tons of other personal finance sites through my weekly roundup, and the sidebar of every page links to tons more.  

And for those who say I &quot;misinterpreted&quot; Adam Smith, I think you should re-read it with an open mind.  The &quot;invisible hand&quot; pushes a person to act in their own self-interest.  My argument is that one&#039;s self-interest, properly enlightened, might not be the move of pure self-interest in the moment.  In fact, I argue it often isn&#039;t.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Mostly I agree with you, Trent &#8211; but I would think long and hard about helping someone with whom I’m in direct competition. It’s OK for helping to be strategic.&#8221;</p>
<p>I help people I&#8217;m in direct competition with all the time.  I link to tons of other personal finance sites through my weekly roundup, and the sidebar of every page links to tons more.  </p>
<p>And for those who say I &#8220;misinterpreted&#8221; Adam Smith, I think you should re-read it with an open mind.  The &#8220;invisible hand&#8221; pushes a person to act in their own self-interest.  My argument is that one&#8217;s self-interest, properly enlightened, might not be the move of pure self-interest in the moment.  In fact, I argue it often isn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 12:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Robin (#5) and Jennifer (#11) are right. Trent misinterpreted the Adam Smith quote. Adam was saying pretty much the opposite of what Trent is saying. He is saying that by pursuing your own self interest others benefit indirectly. Trent is saying that by pursuing others interests you benefit indriectly. Both of those may be true but Trent and Adam are saying two different things.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robin (#5) and Jennifer (#11) are right. Trent misinterpreted the Adam Smith quote. Adam was saying pretty much the opposite of what Trent is saying. He is saying that by pursuing your own self interest others benefit indirectly. Trent is saying that by pursuing others interests you benefit indriectly. Both of those may be true but Trent and Adam are saying two different things.</p>
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		<title>By: Carole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 12:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think that people who help others when they can attract positive things to themselves.  It&#039;s an unwritten law at work in the universe.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that people who help others when they can attract positive things to themselves.  It&#8217;s an unwritten law at work in the universe.</p>
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		<title>By: Bell Neice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bell Neice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&gt;&gt;&gt;if you can help someone out without disadvantaging yourself, do it

Can you expound on &quot;without disavantaging yourself&quot;?  I generally try to be kind - but some people are out there to take advantage.  We have generations that believe that kindness is weakness.  I work with some of these people.  Just sharing information with them could be a disadvantage - they won&#039;t reciprocate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;&gt;if you can help someone out without disadvantaging yourself, do it</p>
<p>Can you expound on &#8220;without disavantaging yourself&#8221;?  I generally try to be kind &#8211; but some people are out there to take advantage.  We have generations that believe that kindness is weakness.  I work with some of these people.  Just sharing information with them could be a disadvantage &#8211; they won&#8217;t reciprocate.</p>
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		<title>By: brooke</title>
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		<dc:creator>brooke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#7 Jude,
You have one person that depends on you in a large way- your child. You matter to that child, and THEY will love you  no matter what. As the previous poster said, create a circle of friends. YOU have to make your place in this world,and then you&#039;ll have a sense of belonging and being appreciated. But no matter what, if you don&#039;t have a single friend, that child will still love you. Put your child first.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#7 Jude,<br />
You have one person that depends on you in a large way- your child. You matter to that child, and THEY will love you  no matter what. As the previous poster said, create a circle of friends. YOU have to make your place in this world,and then you&#8217;ll have a sense of belonging and being appreciated. But no matter what, if you don&#8217;t have a single friend, that child will still love you. Put your child first.</p>
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		<title>By: Anne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 03:26:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Really great post, Trent.  You always give one food for thought.

To #7 Jude:  I was a single parent, too.  It&#039;s the hardest job in the world - no doubt about it.  I don&#039;t know anything about your circumstances but I will tell you what helped me. 

I set out to create a &quot;circle&quot; of friends who would serve as a de facto family.  I enrolled my son in soccer when he was 4 years old.  He loved sports but the principle is the same whether it&#039;s music/dance/whatever.  Through soccer, we met other the kind of healthy families I wanted to be surrounded with.  Parents who were involved with their kids.  It&#039;s sad to say that few of them were single parents.  It&#039;s just really hard to do that stuff on your own.  But the rewards were tremendous.  We traded babysitting - though I was usually on the receiving end of that.  And formed lifelong friendships.

I also found a church community.  More people who were &quot;there&quot; for us.  And I learned a lot about myself and my relationship with God in the process.

I&#039;m not saying my way of doing things was the best way or only way.  But it was the way that worked for me.  There is hope and there are people who care.  You can create a better life for you and your child(ren); the life you want.  It&#039;s hard not to get discouraged, I know, but you can do it.

And I really want to echo the comments of #14 Damester.  Help is out there.  You can do it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really great post, Trent.  You always give one food for thought.</p>
<p>To #7 Jude:  I was a single parent, too.  It&#8217;s the hardest job in the world &#8211; no doubt about it.  I don&#8217;t know anything about your circumstances but I will tell you what helped me. </p>
<p>I set out to create a &#8220;circle&#8221; of friends who would serve as a de facto family.  I enrolled my son in soccer when he was 4 years old.  He loved sports but the principle is the same whether it&#8217;s music/dance/whatever.  Through soccer, we met other the kind of healthy families I wanted to be surrounded with.  Parents who were involved with their kids.  It&#8217;s sad to say that few of them were single parents.  It&#8217;s just really hard to do that stuff on your own.  But the rewards were tremendous.  We traded babysitting &#8211; though I was usually on the receiving end of that.  And formed lifelong friendships.</p>
<p>I also found a church community.  More people who were &#8220;there&#8221; for us.  And I learned a lot about myself and my relationship with God in the process.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying my way of doing things was the best way or only way.  But it was the way that worked for me.  There is hope and there are people who care.  You can create a better life for you and your child(ren); the life you want.  It&#8217;s hard not to get discouraged, I know, but you can do it.</p>
<p>And I really want to echo the comments of #14 Damester.  Help is out there.  You can do it.</p>
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		<title>By: Foxie@CarsxGirl</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 02:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Makes sense to me!!

Of course, this can&#039;t be applied to every situation... But it wouldn&#039;t be the worst thing in the world to fall back on.

Typically, you can tell which people are worth helping and which aren&#039;t... Use that instinct and stick to it. Otherwise you&#039;ll end up more of a floor mat than anything else.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Makes sense to me!!</p>
<p>Of course, this can&#8217;t be applied to every situation&#8230; But it wouldn&#8217;t be the worst thing in the world to fall back on.</p>
<p>Typically, you can tell which people are worth helping and which aren&#8217;t&#8230; Use that instinct and stick to it. Otherwise you&#8217;ll end up more of a floor mat than anything else.</p>
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		<title>By: Marsha</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 02:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mostly I agree with you, Trent - but I would think long and hard about helping someone with whom I&#039;m in direct competition.  It&#039;s OK for helping to be strategic.

Also, as Meg suggested (or as I inferred from her post), you have to figure out what really is &quot;help.&quot;  Sometimes it&#039;s just enabling someone else.  Sometimes it&#039;s at the expense of draining your own reserves.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mostly I agree with you, Trent &#8211; but I would think long and hard about helping someone with whom I&#8217;m in direct competition.  It&#8217;s OK for helping to be strategic.</p>
<p>Also, as Meg suggested (or as I inferred from her post), you have to figure out what really is &#8220;help.&#8221;  Sometimes it&#8217;s just enabling someone else.  Sometimes it&#8217;s at the expense of draining your own reserves.</p>
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		<title>By: anne</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 01:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hey jude- #7- i&#039;m not sure i understand why your 3 year plan ends w/ suicide. i&#039;m imagining you have a diagnosis of an illness or condition which will give you 3 years of relatively good health, and then uncertainty or incapacitation after that?  i know absolutely nothing about you and your situation- that&#039;s the only thing that i could think of which makes sense.  and then i hope your dr or doctors help you and things get so much better you are healthy and can abandon this plan.

i hope you&#039;re ok- i really do.  i don&#039;t know you, but i&#039;m worried about you.  please hang in there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey jude- #7- i&#8217;m not sure i understand why your 3 year plan ends w/ suicide. i&#8217;m imagining you have a diagnosis of an illness or condition which will give you 3 years of relatively good health, and then uncertainty or incapacitation after that?  i know absolutely nothing about you and your situation- that&#8217;s the only thing that i could think of which makes sense.  and then i hope your dr or doctors help you and things get so much better you are healthy and can abandon this plan.</p>
<p>i hope you&#8217;re ok- i really do.  i don&#8217;t know you, but i&#8217;m worried about you.  please hang in there.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 01:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[RE: the conversation about &#039;the invisible hand.&#039;
I think both Trent&#039;s non-financial take on it, as well as the financial aspect, are correct.

Is it in my best interest to be on good terms with my neighbor?  Yes.  Is it in my self-interest to remove a splinter from her child&#039;s finger?  Yes.  Is it in my self interest to give my unemployed brother $1000 because he refuses to find a job but wants to go on vacation with his girlfriend?  No.

RE: Self interest.
I think Zig Ziglar said &quot;You can get everything you want by giving others what they want.&quot;  That applies to neighbors, friends, coworkers, and the spiritual side of life (call it karma, the golden rule, whatever).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: the conversation about &#8216;the invisible hand.&#8217;<br />
I think both Trent&#8217;s non-financial take on it, as well as the financial aspect, are correct.</p>
<p>Is it in my best interest to be on good terms with my neighbor?  Yes.  Is it in my self-interest to remove a splinter from her child&#8217;s finger?  Yes.  Is it in my self interest to give my unemployed brother $1000 because he refuses to find a job but wants to go on vacation with his girlfriend?  No.</p>
<p>RE: Self interest.<br />
I think Zig Ziglar said &#8220;You can get everything you want by giving others what they want.&#8221;  That applies to neighbors, friends, coworkers, and the spiritual side of life (call it karma, the golden rule, whatever).</p>
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		<title>By: Damester</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 23:41:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To Jude:
This being the Web, I&#039;m sorry to say that one does not always know if someone is speaking the truth.

If indeed you are feeling as you write, you need to immediately seek help (church, family, friend, social worker). There is plenty of it available and for free. There are suicide hotlines everywhere.

As a single parent, your life is probably very very challenging. But you are a parent and that means your life on this planet no longer revolves around how you feel, no matter how badly, or how &quot;justified.&quot; I don&#039;t know your life circumstances or how old your child is, but you need to think about your child right now and how your actions and plans are/will affect him/her. Suicide is not the answer.

If you are clinically depressed, as you well may be, you can again get help. You do have to ask for it and that can be hard. But look at what&#039;s at stake.

If you&#039;re looking to find someone in life to depend on, here is the reality, for all of us: You must first depend on yourself. YOU have to want to be present on the planet. That&#039;s a choice you make. Nobody else can make your life worth living. NOBODY. Your child included.

Your life has got to be independent of anything or anyone else. That&#039;s hard, but it&#039;s the truth. Yes, we love, we create families of all types. We connect. But we enter alone, we leave alone. It doesn&#039;t however, have to be that way, inbetween.

Because if you look around, you will see/realize that many people who have loving families and friends also contemplate suicide. You will also see children traumatized for life by their parents death by suicide. 

Clearly you don&#039;t find life worth living if you are contemplating your own death. But clearly you have hope (a three-year plan?) or you&#039;re waiting for something else. 

We all feel invisible. We all feel as if no one understands. And, at times, we all feel as if no one has our backs. But it is then that we must reach out and connect and ask for help.

No one has to be alone, especially when they feel as you do.

So, now, what will you DO, right NOW to embrace life rather than focus on leaving? If your child isn&#039;t enough reason to continue, that alone should make you run to the nearest mental health center.

Finally, putting your thoughts online, the people here, who do not know you, can offer only words. You need far more than that. You need to reach out in the real world. The online community is not a substitute for a therapist, for local aid on a consistent basis and for the kind of real-life connections you need. 

Please don&#039;t let these feelings be your reality. You have the power to change that. For your sake, and that of your child, I hope you will.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Jude:<br />
This being the Web, I&#8217;m sorry to say that one does not always know if someone is speaking the truth.</p>
<p>If indeed you are feeling as you write, you need to immediately seek help (church, family, friend, social worker). There is plenty of it available and for free. There are suicide hotlines everywhere.</p>
<p>As a single parent, your life is probably very very challenging. But you are a parent and that means your life on this planet no longer revolves around how you feel, no matter how badly, or how &#8220;justified.&#8221; I don&#8217;t know your life circumstances or how old your child is, but you need to think about your child right now and how your actions and plans are/will affect him/her. Suicide is not the answer.</p>
<p>If you are clinically depressed, as you well may be, you can again get help. You do have to ask for it and that can be hard. But look at what&#8217;s at stake.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re looking to find someone in life to depend on, here is the reality, for all of us: You must first depend on yourself. YOU have to want to be present on the planet. That&#8217;s a choice you make. Nobody else can make your life worth living. NOBODY. Your child included.</p>
<p>Your life has got to be independent of anything or anyone else. That&#8217;s hard, but it&#8217;s the truth. Yes, we love, we create families of all types. We connect. But we enter alone, we leave alone. It doesn&#8217;t however, have to be that way, inbetween.</p>
<p>Because if you look around, you will see/realize that many people who have loving families and friends also contemplate suicide. You will also see children traumatized for life by their parents death by suicide. </p>
<p>Clearly you don&#8217;t find life worth living if you are contemplating your own death. But clearly you have hope (a three-year plan?) or you&#8217;re waiting for something else. </p>
<p>We all feel invisible. We all feel as if no one understands. And, at times, we all feel as if no one has our backs. But it is then that we must reach out and connect and ask for help.</p>
<p>No one has to be alone, especially when they feel as you do.</p>
<p>So, now, what will you DO, right NOW to embrace life rather than focus on leaving? If your child isn&#8217;t enough reason to continue, that alone should make you run to the nearest mental health center.</p>
<p>Finally, putting your thoughts online, the people here, who do not know you, can offer only words. You need far more than that. You need to reach out in the real world. The online community is not a substitute for a therapist, for local aid on a consistent basis and for the kind of real-life connections you need. </p>
<p>Please don&#8217;t let these feelings be your reality. You have the power to change that. For your sake, and that of your child, I hope you will.</p>
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