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	<title>Comments on: The Danger of Selling to Your Friends and Family</title>
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		<title>By: Jenny</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/08/15/the-danger-of-selling-to-your-friends-and-family/comment-page-2/#comment-951247</link>
		<dc:creator>Jenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jun 2011 12:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it possible to have a link to repost this on Facebook? I have a few &#039;friends&#039; who keep asking me to buy stuff or host parties and it&#039;s annoying. I&#039;m hoping your post would be a wake-up call.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it possible to have a link to repost this on Facebook? I have a few &#8216;friends&#8217; who keep asking me to buy stuff or host parties and it&#8217;s annoying. I&#8217;m hoping your post would be a wake-up call.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/08/15/the-danger-of-selling-to-your-friends-and-family/comment-page-2/#comment-926629</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Oct 2010 19:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Rose. I&#039;ve been in sales for 30 years, but never in direct sales. I know a lot of people that have been involved with various companies, from Shaklee (I&#039;ve been buying from my rep for 20 years), Arbonne, Monavie, Silpada, etc. Most don&#039;t make a lot of money, but they do have pretty fulfilled lives doing what they want. On the other hand, I worked with a woman who sold Arbonne, and she was making more money with it than from her full time job (and was well paid there!).

Some of the people that posted earlier seem to have such a chip on their shoulders...I&#039;m surprised that they would even walk into a store, let alone talk to a sales person.

Come off it people, you can say &quot;no&quot; and be done with it. Otherwise, you&#039;re holding a grudge. Get off it.

There&#039;s a lot of passion in their remarks. Kevin, in particular, seems to have something going on, as he makes some categorical remarks. He also says that direct sales people cannot deduct expenses. This is incorrect. If you run a business from your house and are an independent representative, you can certainly deduct your legitimate business expenses. But don&#039;t take my word for it, ask your accountant.

Peace,

Lee</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Rose. I&#8217;ve been in sales for 30 years, but never in direct sales. I know a lot of people that have been involved with various companies, from Shaklee (I&#8217;ve been buying from my rep for 20 years), Arbonne, Monavie, Silpada, etc. Most don&#8217;t make a lot of money, but they do have pretty fulfilled lives doing what they want. On the other hand, I worked with a woman who sold Arbonne, and she was making more money with it than from her full time job (and was well paid there!).</p>
<p>Some of the people that posted earlier seem to have such a chip on their shoulders&#8230;I&#8217;m surprised that they would even walk into a store, let alone talk to a sales person.</p>
<p>Come off it people, you can say &#8220;no&#8221; and be done with it. Otherwise, you&#8217;re holding a grudge. Get off it.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a lot of passion in their remarks. Kevin, in particular, seems to have something going on, as he makes some categorical remarks. He also says that direct sales people cannot deduct expenses. This is incorrect. If you run a business from your house and are an independent representative, you can certainly deduct your legitimate business expenses. But don&#8217;t take my word for it, ask your accountant.</p>
<p>Peace,</p>
<p>Lee</p>
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		<title>By: Rose</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/08/15/the-danger-of-selling-to-your-friends-and-family/comment-page-2/#comment-922071</link>
		<dc:creator>Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2010 03:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geez, so much negativity, I feel like I have to balance it out. . . 
No matter what you do in life, everyone has to sell/market themselves at some point. Why so angry about people asking you a question? Just give a polite no and move on with your life if asked about something that does not interest you. 
Remember at some point you too will be selling yourself, your story.

I enjoy supporting businesses of people I know when they are selling a great quality product, wether it is direct marketing or a store-front business.  I prefer to keep my dollars local too.

I&#039;ve worked (part-time)in direct sales now for close to ten years.  There are people out there who DO love our products, search them out, thank me for introducing them to it, etc! The level of customer service is much higher in direct sales with an established rep than at a box store.

I DO agree that not all companies/reps are the same! I too have had some high pressure/bad experiences with other people in direct sales. But I&#039;ve also had some bad experiences with Craigslist, used items that were not worth their $2, and generic items!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geez, so much negativity, I feel like I have to balance it out. . .<br />
No matter what you do in life, everyone has to sell/market themselves at some point. Why so angry about people asking you a question? Just give a polite no and move on with your life if asked about something that does not interest you.<br />
Remember at some point you too will be selling yourself, your story.</p>
<p>I enjoy supporting businesses of people I know when they are selling a great quality product, wether it is direct marketing or a store-front business.  I prefer to keep my dollars local too.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve worked (part-time)in direct sales now for close to ten years.  There are people out there who DO love our products, search them out, thank me for introducing them to it, etc! The level of customer service is much higher in direct sales with an established rep than at a box store.</p>
<p>I DO agree that not all companies/reps are the same! I too have had some high pressure/bad experiences with other people in direct sales. But I&#8217;ve also had some bad experiences with Craigslist, used items that were not worth their $2, and generic items!</p>
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		<title>By: beth</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/08/15/the-danger-of-selling-to-your-friends-and-family/comment-page-2/#comment-921986</link>
		<dc:creator>beth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Aug 2010 13:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I enjoy reading SimpleDollar and this concept seems to be a real concern to people. I guess I didn&#039;t think that people would buy out of obligation like is expressed in so many comments. I wonder if one year later, it is any more of a concern. My biggest concern is it is a good deal, a quality product and do I need it before I would be motivated by obligation to buy from a friend. A real quality product or service for a price I can afford and want, I would rather buy from a friend.  I like the parties because it is a social, fun time. If there is pressure, that&#039;s not fun to me or anybody else.
If it&#039;s &quot;easy it&#039;s sleezy&quot; so anybody that claims making lots of money for little work is suspect, and you should avoid that stuff. But if someone wants to sell me a security system and I can afford it and it&#039;s a good price, I would be disturbed if my friend didn&#039;t offer it to me and then my home is broken into and someone is hurt because I didn&#039;t have the product/ service. As far as cleaning, gadgets, makeup, vitamins, etc, there&#039;s less profit for the investment and it isn&#039;t something I would want to pay some markup or to sell myself. 
I am licensed for insurance, and can help families get a roadmap to financial freedom, so i feel really good about it and the industry is highly regulated, so I know it is high quality products and services.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoy reading SimpleDollar and this concept seems to be a real concern to people. I guess I didn&#8217;t think that people would buy out of obligation like is expressed in so many comments. I wonder if one year later, it is any more of a concern. My biggest concern is it is a good deal, a quality product and do I need it before I would be motivated by obligation to buy from a friend. A real quality product or service for a price I can afford and want, I would rather buy from a friend.  I like the parties because it is a social, fun time. If there is pressure, that&#8217;s not fun to me or anybody else.<br />
If it&#8217;s &#8220;easy it&#8217;s sleezy&#8221; so anybody that claims making lots of money for little work is suspect, and you should avoid that stuff. But if someone wants to sell me a security system and I can afford it and it&#8217;s a good price, I would be disturbed if my friend didn&#8217;t offer it to me and then my home is broken into and someone is hurt because I didn&#8217;t have the product/ service. As far as cleaning, gadgets, makeup, vitamins, etc, there&#8217;s less profit for the investment and it isn&#8217;t something I would want to pay some markup or to sell myself.<br />
I am licensed for insurance, and can help families get a roadmap to financial freedom, so i feel really good about it and the industry is highly regulated, so I know it is high quality products and services.</p>
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		<title>By: Jessica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jessica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Aug 2010 16:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Network marketing can be a lucrative business. It&#039;s definitely not for everyone. I agree with you, harassing friends and family members to buy a product can be very annoying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Network marketing can be a lucrative business. It&#8217;s definitely not for everyone. I agree with you, harassing friends and family members to buy a product can be very annoying.</p>
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		<title>By: deRuiter</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/08/15/the-danger-of-selling-to-your-friends-and-family/comment-page-2/#comment-921196</link>
		<dc:creator>deRuiter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Aug 2010 10:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Buttonholing your friends to buy overpriced, made in China junk is tacky.  I won&#039;t even sell my used vehicles to friends if they beg me. I sell them to strangers, so when the truck which is 15 years old and has faithfully, without a problem, gone 165,000 miles for me, has a radiator hose go bad for the new owner six months after the purchase of the truck, I don&#039;t have to listen to the moans. Folks, if you all &quot;just say no&quot; continuously, this type of annoying, overpriced marketing, will cease.  Smile, and say, &quot;No thank you.&quot;  don&#039;t think about it, don&#039;t make exceptions, don&#039;t waffle, don&#039;t contribute to our negative balance of trade with China by paying more than an item is worth.  If you need cooking gear, most of it is available, including Pampered Chef, at yard and estate sales, flea markets, Craigslist, freecycle, and by asking friends if they have any cooking equipment they don&#039;t want.  This is articularly true of expensive gadgets like bread machines, mixers, ice cream makers.  it&#039;s out there free, or cheap, without further damage to the environment or your wallet.  Spoken by a person with two top of the line standing mixers, one for $20. (10 year old and still going strong!) and one for free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Buttonholing your friends to buy overpriced, made in China junk is tacky.  I won&#8217;t even sell my used vehicles to friends if they beg me. I sell them to strangers, so when the truck which is 15 years old and has faithfully, without a problem, gone 165,000 miles for me, has a radiator hose go bad for the new owner six months after the purchase of the truck, I don&#8217;t have to listen to the moans. Folks, if you all &#8220;just say no&#8221; continuously, this type of annoying, overpriced marketing, will cease.  Smile, and say, &#8220;No thank you.&#8221;  don&#8217;t think about it, don&#8217;t make exceptions, don&#8217;t waffle, don&#8217;t contribute to our negative balance of trade with China by paying more than an item is worth.  If you need cooking gear, most of it is available, including Pampered Chef, at yard and estate sales, flea markets, Craigslist, freecycle, and by asking friends if they have any cooking equipment they don&#8217;t want.  This is articularly true of expensive gadgets like bread machines, mixers, ice cream makers.  it&#8217;s out there free, or cheap, without further damage to the environment or your wallet.  Spoken by a person with two top of the line standing mixers, one for $20. (10 year old and still going strong!) and one for free.</p>
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		<title>By: Finance Nerd</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/08/15/the-danger-of-selling-to-your-friends-and-family/comment-page-2/#comment-757110</link>
		<dc:creator>Finance Nerd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 01:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My wife sold Tupperware for a short time -- mainly because she wanted to buy a bunch and get a discount.  But she was very uncomfortable with how much her &quot;upline&quot; pushed her to find new recruits, have parties, etc. and got out of it in after a few months.  

She is a SAHM and had been making a nice income before that, so she was not swayed by the comments about how much she could earn by doing this.  If she wanted a nice income, she would have gone back to work, because to make that kind of money in MLM you basically have to work full time anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My wife sold Tupperware for a short time &#8212; mainly because she wanted to buy a bunch and get a discount.  But she was very uncomfortable with how much her &#8220;upline&#8221; pushed her to find new recruits, have parties, etc. and got out of it in after a few months.  </p>
<p>She is a SAHM and had been making a nice income before that, so she was not swayed by the comments about how much she could earn by doing this.  If she wanted a nice income, she would have gone back to work, because to make that kind of money in MLM you basically have to work full time anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: john deflumeri jr</title>
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		<dc:creator>john deflumeri jr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 21:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trent, you are a smart person!  I was an automobile salesman for 25 years before I retired, and I was always wary when selling to family, because I knew that if they ever got &quot;buyer&#039;s remorse&quot;, they would say I pressured them into buying, or they felt obligated to buy from me.  The only thing you should do to protect yourself is be sure to make at least a fair profit on the family sales, because you&#039;re going to live with them for a long, long, time!
Thanks for all your good posts! John DeFlumeri Jr</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trent, you are a smart person!  I was an automobile salesman for 25 years before I retired, and I was always wary when selling to family, because I knew that if they ever got &#8220;buyer&#8217;s remorse&#8221;, they would say I pressured them into buying, or they felt obligated to buy from me.  The only thing you should do to protect yourself is be sure to make at least a fair profit on the family sales, because you&#8217;re going to live with them for a long, long, time!<br />
Thanks for all your good posts! John DeFlumeri Jr</p>
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		<title>By: Maya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 19:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MLMs are usually a bad way to try to make money (even as a part-time gig). 

But I also believe that all situations (even bad ones) happen for a reason. 

I also sold Cutco knives. I did this right after I graduated from college, as I worked part-time at a bank and continued looking for a &quot;real job&quot; in journalism.

I did a &quot;demo&quot; for one of my bank co-workers at her house. She politely listened to my entire demo and then suggested that I apply for a job opening that she heard about at her local newspaper. (This was years before the decline of print media.)

I took her advice and was hired as a reporter for that newspaper.

So even though I didn&#039;t make a lot of money directly from selling Cutco, I do appreciate the fact that it indirectly led me to my first real job.

And I agree with Trent&#039;s point that if you have a close friend whose a part of an MLM program/scheme, it&#039;s a great idea to help them find a job where their skills will be put to better use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MLMs are usually a bad way to try to make money (even as a part-time gig). </p>
<p>But I also believe that all situations (even bad ones) happen for a reason. </p>
<p>I also sold Cutco knives. I did this right after I graduated from college, as I worked part-time at a bank and continued looking for a &#8220;real job&#8221; in journalism.</p>
<p>I did a &#8220;demo&#8221; for one of my bank co-workers at her house. She politely listened to my entire demo and then suggested that I apply for a job opening that she heard about at her local newspaper. (This was years before the decline of print media.)</p>
<p>I took her advice and was hired as a reporter for that newspaper.</p>
<p>So even though I didn&#8217;t make a lot of money directly from selling Cutco, I do appreciate the fact that it indirectly led me to my first real job.</p>
<p>And I agree with Trent&#8217;s point that if you have a close friend whose a part of an MLM program/scheme, it&#8217;s a great idea to help them find a job where their skills will be put to better use.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 15:02:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This reminds me of two things:
1. Our HOA wanting to put a No Soliciting sign at the neighborhood entrance but the homeowners voted not to since that meant they couldn&#039;t send their kids around with school fundraiser crap.

2. Napoleon Dynamite and Uncle Rico driving over the Tupperware while demonstrating how robust it is!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This reminds me of two things:<br />
1. Our HOA wanting to put a No Soliciting sign at the neighborhood entrance but the homeowners voted not to since that meant they couldn&#8217;t send their kids around with school fundraiser crap.</p>
<p>2. Napoleon Dynamite and Uncle Rico driving over the Tupperware while demonstrating how robust it is!</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Cruz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Cruz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 14:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of my good college friends is a culprit for selling to friends. He has pushed away many friends including myself because he constantly pushes sales or asks for too many favors. He first would constantly ask us to do those online referal programs so he can get a free ipod. He got hooked after the ipod then went after a computer. Now he&#039;s into a financial MLM scheme and pushing it on everyone he knows. I went to the hoo raw meeting because he is a good friend but turned him down because it was simply a scam if you just Google the name. Now most of our friends do not want to hang out with him because we know he will push a sale on us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of my good college friends is a culprit for selling to friends. He has pushed away many friends including myself because he constantly pushes sales or asks for too many favors. He first would constantly ask us to do those online referal programs so he can get a free ipod. He got hooked after the ipod then went after a computer. Now he&#8217;s into a financial MLM scheme and pushing it on everyone he knows. I went to the hoo raw meeting because he is a good friend but turned him down because it was simply a scam if you just Google the name. Now most of our friends do not want to hang out with him because we know he will push a sale on us.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin@OutOfYourRut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin@OutOfYourRut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 13:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Avon is an interesting exception to the MLM game, even though it most certainly is a part of it.

It&#039;s an example of a product that largely sells itself, all you need to do is get the word out, and people will come to you.  Beyond that the extent of the selling is in the gentle persuasion category.

The problem with most MLMs, and most sales situations, is that the products and services themselves are suspect.  They need to be explained to a customer by a convincing sales person, otherwise they would never buy.

That really sets up the pushy, obnoxious sales person, because he/she is in a position of needing to create a market for the product that wouldn&#039;t exist otherwise.  That requires a certain moxy, which most people don&#039;t have and that&#039;s why most people have to sell to family and friends, and their sales careers are short lived.

It&#039;s really kind of sad for the sales people.  We all need to earn money, and those often bogus products can make a person look bad while trying to earn a living.  Hopefully they don&#039;t go back after having been burned once.  It is a common scheme.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Avon is an interesting exception to the MLM game, even though it most certainly is a part of it.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s an example of a product that largely sells itself, all you need to do is get the word out, and people will come to you.  Beyond that the extent of the selling is in the gentle persuasion category.</p>
<p>The problem with most MLMs, and most sales situations, is that the products and services themselves are suspect.  They need to be explained to a customer by a convincing sales person, otherwise they would never buy.</p>
<p>That really sets up the pushy, obnoxious sales person, because he/she is in a position of needing to create a market for the product that wouldn&#8217;t exist otherwise.  That requires a certain moxy, which most people don&#8217;t have and that&#8217;s why most people have to sell to family and friends, and their sales careers are short lived.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s really kind of sad for the sales people.  We all need to earn money, and those often bogus products can make a person look bad while trying to earn a living.  Hopefully they don&#8217;t go back after having been burned once.  It is a common scheme.</p>
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		<title>By: Donna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 20:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When approached by family to purchase something (including fundraisers for kids) I will ask them what the commission they make on the product is and pay them directly the money, rather than spend far more to get something I don&#039;t need or want.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When approached by family to purchase something (including fundraisers for kids) I will ask them what the commission they make on the product is and pay them directly the money, rather than spend far more to get something I don&#8217;t need or want.</p>
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		<title>By: J</title>
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		<dc:creator>J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just like anything else, there are scams out there and there are legit companies.  As indicated above, Avon has been around a while, and Pampered Chef is owned by Berkshire Hathaway.  I will concur that Amway/Quixtar is much more scammy than anything else, they definitely have the hard sell and I personally won&#039;t have anything to do with it.  But that&#039;s my view from sitting through a number of their sales conventions in high school when I&#039;d work the A/V equipment (for minimum wage!)

Quite honestly, I find the attitude displayed here a little discouraging.  Legit people who are trying to make money and dabble in entrepreneurship should be EN-couraged, not DIS-couraged.  If you don&#039;t want to host a party or buy a product, politely decline the offer.  Lots of people need to make ends meet somehow, yet don&#039;t have the ability to work some minimum wage job because they can&#039;t afford daycare or they want to try out being their own boss and having some flexibility in their schedule.  There are reasons besides money people want to do something.

I also find it somehow confusing that Trent will promote his blog and livelihood through social networking &quot;Follow me on Twitter!&quot;, &quot;Be a fan of me on Facebook&quot;, &quot;Become a friend of the Simple Dollar!&quot;, yet when someone tries to sell lipstick or a cheese grater, it&#039;s somehow wrong.

Also, in the dollar per hour category, I bet the beginning of the Simple Dollar had similar poor returns on &quot;investment&quot;, and Lord knows the Internet is littered with blogger and websites that never made it -- just the same way there are people who didn&#039;t make it with home jewelery sales or Tupperware.  But there are people who are willing to work their tails off to try this stuff out and they can do well for themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just like anything else, there are scams out there and there are legit companies.  As indicated above, Avon has been around a while, and Pampered Chef is owned by Berkshire Hathaway.  I will concur that Amway/Quixtar is much more scammy than anything else, they definitely have the hard sell and I personally won&#8217;t have anything to do with it.  But that&#8217;s my view from sitting through a number of their sales conventions in high school when I&#8217;d work the A/V equipment (for minimum wage!)</p>
<p>Quite honestly, I find the attitude displayed here a little discouraging.  Legit people who are trying to make money and dabble in entrepreneurship should be EN-couraged, not DIS-couraged.  If you don&#8217;t want to host a party or buy a product, politely decline the offer.  Lots of people need to make ends meet somehow, yet don&#8217;t have the ability to work some minimum wage job because they can&#8217;t afford daycare or they want to try out being their own boss and having some flexibility in their schedule.  There are reasons besides money people want to do something.</p>
<p>I also find it somehow confusing that Trent will promote his blog and livelihood through social networking &#8220;Follow me on Twitter!&#8221;, &#8220;Be a fan of me on Facebook&#8221;, &#8220;Become a friend of the Simple Dollar!&#8221;, yet when someone tries to sell lipstick or a cheese grater, it&#8217;s somehow wrong.</p>
<p>Also, in the dollar per hour category, I bet the beginning of the Simple Dollar had similar poor returns on &#8220;investment&#8221;, and Lord knows the Internet is littered with blogger and websites that never made it &#8212; just the same way there are people who didn&#8217;t make it with home jewelery sales or Tupperware.  But there are people who are willing to work their tails off to try this stuff out and they can do well for themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Jackie Ulmer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jackie Ulmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 18:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an interesting article and I feel compelled to play a little &quot;devil&#039;s advocate!&quot;

As a successful direct sales business owner for almost 16 years, I don&#039;t &quot;pitch&quot; to my family and friends. Instead, I simply notify them, just as I would if I opened an ice cream store in town.

Pitching is quite different than notifying. Chasing and bugging is also different. I simply notify. I don&#039;t ask anyone to buy or join, that is up to them.

Honestly, in most cases, I would much prefer to buy from and support my friends and family, all things being equal.

Our friends recently opened a wine shop. We joined their wine club, refer people there and buy wine there regularly.

Some other friends have a local restaurant. I would much rather support them than the national chain up the street.

I personally promote a high quality line of products that are priced competitively, meaning they aren&#039;t a rip off like some direct sales companies. We go head to head with the number one competitor, who is not direct sales.

My friends are all my customer and they pass on referrals. They have not joined me in business and that is fine. I value my friendships above all, and would never want them to feel obligated.

But, it&#039;s bad business not to at least notify. Be a professional in your approach and you&#039;ll be fine, assuming your product line is quality and priced right.

EXPECT Success!

Jackie Ulmer</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an interesting article and I feel compelled to play a little &#8220;devil&#8217;s advocate!&#8221;</p>
<p>As a successful direct sales business owner for almost 16 years, I don&#8217;t &#8220;pitch&#8221; to my family and friends. Instead, I simply notify them, just as I would if I opened an ice cream store in town.</p>
<p>Pitching is quite different than notifying. Chasing and bugging is also different. I simply notify. I don&#8217;t ask anyone to buy or join, that is up to them.</p>
<p>Honestly, in most cases, I would much prefer to buy from and support my friends and family, all things being equal.</p>
<p>Our friends recently opened a wine shop. We joined their wine club, refer people there and buy wine there regularly.</p>
<p>Some other friends have a local restaurant. I would much rather support them than the national chain up the street.</p>
<p>I personally promote a high quality line of products that are priced competitively, meaning they aren&#8217;t a rip off like some direct sales companies. We go head to head with the number one competitor, who is not direct sales.</p>
<p>My friends are all my customer and they pass on referrals. They have not joined me in business and that is fine. I value my friendships above all, and would never want them to feel obligated.</p>
<p>But, it&#8217;s bad business not to at least notify. Be a professional in your approach and you&#8217;ll be fine, assuming your product line is quality and priced right.</p>
<p>EXPECT Success!</p>
<p>Jackie Ulmer</p>
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		<title>By: Robin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ugh, I will forever have a bad taste in my mouth about MLM.  

My husband &quot;worked&quot; (ha!) for Cutco while we were engaged.  I hated it the whole time, but he was determined it was a good thing.  He did make some money off of it... he is very charismatic.  In the process, he sold his family (and my family to a point) knives they couldn&#039;t afford. He ended up managing a &quot;branch&quot; in Arkansas for the summer.  He called me in the middle of the summer with no money, no food, no way to get out of the town. One bus ticket later, that was the end of that.  He was left with some bad debt that I think is all paid off now.  And did his &quot;mentor&quot; help him during the crisis?  No, of course not, he dropped him like a hot potato as soon as it became clear he wasn&#039;t going to make money for him.

I still use the knives, because they are good knives.  But they are so not worth the price we paid for them, emotionally, relationally, and financially.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ugh, I will forever have a bad taste in my mouth about MLM.  </p>
<p>My husband &#8220;worked&#8221; (ha!) for Cutco while we were engaged.  I hated it the whole time, but he was determined it was a good thing.  He did make some money off of it&#8230; he is very charismatic.  In the process, he sold his family (and my family to a point) knives they couldn&#8217;t afford. He ended up managing a &#8220;branch&#8221; in Arkansas for the summer.  He called me in the middle of the summer with no money, no food, no way to get out of the town. One bus ticket later, that was the end of that.  He was left with some bad debt that I think is all paid off now.  And did his &#8220;mentor&#8221; help him during the crisis?  No, of course not, he dropped him like a hot potato as soon as it became clear he wasn&#8217;t going to make money for him.</p>
<p>I still use the knives, because they are good knives.  But they are so not worth the price we paid for them, emotionally, relationally, and financially.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris @ BuildMyBudget</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris @ BuildMyBudget</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 16:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nevermind how much or little your friend is making trying to sell you knives or parfumerie or whatever they&#039;re pushing--what about the damage to your friendship should something go wrong?  This is something I think very few people consider when they start selling to friends and family on behalf of a pyramid scheme.  When my friends come to me now with these types of things, I try to help them find a real job and I recommend you do the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nevermind how much or little your friend is making trying to sell you knives or parfumerie or whatever they&#8217;re pushing&#8211;what about the damage to your friendship should something go wrong?  This is something I think very few people consider when they start selling to friends and family on behalf of a pyramid scheme.  When my friends come to me now with these types of things, I try to help them find a real job and I recommend you do the same.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate in Canada</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate in Canada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 16:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jaden and Melina:

I also sell Avon, and I have NEVER EVER:
 - knocked on doors
 - talked people&#039;s ears off about it
 - pressured anyone to buy anything

I put out brochures and flyers. If anyone is interested, all my contact info is right there for them; there&#039;s no need for me to be pushy about it.

Avon has been around for over 120 years, and a company doesn&#039;t last that long if they don&#039;t have good quality merchandise, good value for the prices, and good customer service! I got into it because I wanted a little extra money, I use &amp; really like some of the products, and because of their corporate and environmental policies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jaden and Melina:</p>
<p>I also sell Avon, and I have NEVER EVER:<br />
 &#8211; knocked on doors<br />
 &#8211; talked people&#8217;s ears off about it<br />
 &#8211; pressured anyone to buy anything</p>
<p>I put out brochures and flyers. If anyone is interested, all my contact info is right there for them; there&#8217;s no need for me to be pushy about it.</p>
<p>Avon has been around for over 120 years, and a company doesn&#8217;t last that long if they don&#8217;t have good quality merchandise, good value for the prices, and good customer service! I got into it because I wanted a little extra money, I use &amp; really like some of the products, and because of their corporate and environmental policies.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jaden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 16:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, Melina! I bought AVON for a while before I decided to sell it... but I really don&#039;t make much on it at all. I am not by any stretch that amazing saleswoman- I don&#039;t feel right pushing products on people, and would HATE to feel like I guilted someone into buying. I just enjoy having the little business, and I like that I am able to score the things I would buy for myself and my hubby anyway for a little bit less because I sell it :) 

I personally think it&#039;s the fact that the prices are competitive with stores (especially if you hit a sale- they have some GREAT sales!) but the quality, at least of the products I&#039;ve used, is better. I don&#039;t feel the need to be pushy or host parties, because I think the products sell themselves. Most people that try them end up liking them- and if they don&#039;t, AVON has a no-hassle returns policy, which I find reassures people they won&#039;t be wasting their money- if they don&#039;t like it, they get their money back. I don&#039;t know how long I&#039;ll continue doing it, but for now, it&#039;s something I enjoy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, Melina! I bought AVON for a while before I decided to sell it&#8230; but I really don&#8217;t make much on it at all. I am not by any stretch that amazing saleswoman- I don&#8217;t feel right pushing products on people, and would HATE to feel like I guilted someone into buying. I just enjoy having the little business, and I like that I am able to score the things I would buy for myself and my hubby anyway for a little bit less because I sell it :) </p>
<p>I personally think it&#8217;s the fact that the prices are competitive with stores (especially if you hit a sale- they have some GREAT sales!) but the quality, at least of the products I&#8217;ve used, is better. I don&#8217;t feel the need to be pushy or host parties, because I think the products sell themselves. Most people that try them end up liking them- and if they don&#8217;t, AVON has a no-hassle returns policy, which I find reassures people they won&#8217;t be wasting their money- if they don&#8217;t like it, they get their money back. I don&#8217;t know how long I&#8217;ll continue doing it, but for now, it&#8217;s something I enjoy.</p>
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		<title>By: Melina D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melina D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 15:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be fair, Jaden, I have to agree with you about Avon. I have actually called friends who sell it and asked for their latest book, so I could order specific products and look for good deals. Perhaps I shouldn&#039;t have lumped Avon in with the others when recounting my bad experiences, because, to be honest, I can&#039;t say I&#039;ve had a bad experience with Avon. There must be a reason...not sure what. 

On the other hand, the friends of mine who have sold it have all admitted to me that in the end, they made minimal money from selling it, and most eventually gave it up, the exception being a neighbour I once had who approached it in a very determined, business-like fashion, regularly canvassing the neighbourhood, and always managing to upsell me when she visited. I always ended up buying stuff I didn&#039;t plan to buy, but never minded in the end, since it was so good. She was a brilliant saleswoman, but I suspect that very few of us could do what she did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be fair, Jaden, I have to agree with you about Avon. I have actually called friends who sell it and asked for their latest book, so I could order specific products and look for good deals. Perhaps I shouldn&#8217;t have lumped Avon in with the others when recounting my bad experiences, because, to be honest, I can&#8217;t say I&#8217;ve had a bad experience with Avon. There must be a reason&#8230;not sure what. </p>
<p>On the other hand, the friends of mine who have sold it have all admitted to me that in the end, they made minimal money from selling it, and most eventually gave it up, the exception being a neighbour I once had who approached it in a very determined, business-like fashion, regularly canvassing the neighbourhood, and always managing to upsell me when she visited. I always ended up buying stuff I didn&#8217;t plan to buy, but never minded in the end, since it was so good. She was a brilliant saleswoman, but I suspect that very few of us could do what she did.</p>
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