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		<title>By: JuliB</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/10/29/some-thoughts-on-ultra-preparedness/#comment-806932</link>
		<dc:creator>JuliB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I view food storage as a definite return on investment.  What with food package size/ food volume going down, and price remaining the same, you see a definite savings if you do it right.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I view food storage as a definite return on investment.  What with food package size/ food volume going down, and price remaining the same, you see a definite savings if you do it right.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/10/29/some-thoughts-on-ultra-preparedness/#comment-801483</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 12:57:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually Rosa don&#039;t sweat anything. Preparing for disaster, economic, environmental or societal is a good idea but not anything to get yourself wound up over. As the old ad used to say &quot;Just Do It&quot;. Pay off your bills, put a coin or two away when you can, store some .22 shells, learn to shoot, start a garden as much to enjoy creating life and watching it grow as for the food it produces. Learn new skills, give to charity both your money and your time. Love the people you are with and spend as much time with them as you can. While you are on this earth enjoy the journey. Fretting about things you cannot control takes away from that enjoyment. Line up your tasks and put them on autopilot.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually Rosa don&#8217;t sweat anything. Preparing for disaster, economic, environmental or societal is a good idea but not anything to get yourself wound up over. As the old ad used to say &#8220;Just Do It&#8221;. Pay off your bills, put a coin or two away when you can, store some .22 shells, learn to shoot, start a garden as much to enjoy creating life and watching it grow as for the food it produces. Learn new skills, give to charity both your money and your time. Love the people you are with and spend as much time with them as you can. While you are on this earth enjoy the journey. Fretting about things you cannot control takes away from that enjoyment. Line up your tasks and put them on autopilot.</p>
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		<title>By: AnnJo</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/10/29/some-thoughts-on-ultra-preparedness/#comment-801019</link>
		<dc:creator>AnnJo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 17:03:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Plenty of people share Rosa&#039;s resistance to preparedness, whether they see it as pointless because in a true collapse it wouldn&#039;t be enough, or just unlikely to ever be needed.  And it&#039;s true that preparation for total collapse is beyond most people&#039;s capabilities or willingness to sacrifice their current lifestyle, and it&#039;s also true that statistically, preparedness is unlikely to ever be needed.

But the frugality of a well-stocked pantry is undeniable.  If you go through 50 cans of tuna in a year and its shelf life is about four years, why not buy 100+ cans when it&#039;s selling at a blow-out price of 50 cents a can?  Two weeks ago, by combining coupons and sale price and Register Rewards, I bought 10-40 oz. jars of Best Foods mayo (about an 8-10 month supply at our house) at 70 cents a jar.  Compared to the regular store price of $3.59 for a 32 oz jar, or the usual sale price of $2.49, you are buying something at 75-85% savings, besides saving the time and inconvenience of running out of what you need.

By keeping a price book and knowing what our usage patterns are of stockable items, we can easily save 50% or more on a good part of our grocery budget, and &quot;shop from the basement&quot; instead of the grocery store.  You can think of the preparedness issue as a bonus or totally irrelevant, and still a well-stocked food pantry will be a good idea.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plenty of people share Rosa&#8217;s resistance to preparedness, whether they see it as pointless because in a true collapse it wouldn&#8217;t be enough, or just unlikely to ever be needed.  And it&#8217;s true that preparation for total collapse is beyond most people&#8217;s capabilities or willingness to sacrifice their current lifestyle, and it&#8217;s also true that statistically, preparedness is unlikely to ever be needed.</p>
<p>But the frugality of a well-stocked pantry is undeniable.  If you go through 50 cans of tuna in a year and its shelf life is about four years, why not buy 100+ cans when it&#8217;s selling at a blow-out price of 50 cents a can?  Two weeks ago, by combining coupons and sale price and Register Rewards, I bought 10-40 oz. jars of Best Foods mayo (about an 8-10 month supply at our house) at 70 cents a jar.  Compared to the regular store price of $3.59 for a 32 oz jar, or the usual sale price of $2.49, you are buying something at 75-85% savings, besides saving the time and inconvenience of running out of what you need.</p>
<p>By keeping a price book and knowing what our usage patterns are of stockable items, we can easily save 50% or more on a good part of our grocery budget, and &#8220;shop from the basement&#8221; instead of the grocery store.  You can think of the preparedness issue as a bonus or totally irrelevant, and still a well-stocked food pantry will be a good idea.</p>
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		<title>By: Sharon L</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/10/29/some-thoughts-on-ultra-preparedness/#comment-800741</link>
		<dc:creator>Sharon L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 06:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another thing to stockpile, challenging as it is, is medications. The insurance companies make it hard,but get your refills as soon as you can and save the 3 or 4 day&#039;s worth until you have a month&#039;s worth or so. Be sure to rotate that stock.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another thing to stockpile, challenging as it is, is medications. The insurance companies make it hard,but get your refills as soon as you can and save the 3 or 4 day&#8217;s worth until you have a month&#8217;s worth or so. Be sure to rotate that stock.</p>
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		<title>By: Charlotte</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/10/29/some-thoughts-on-ultra-preparedness/#comment-800519</link>
		<dc:creator>Charlotte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 00:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As part of my emergency preparedness kit, I bought a radio from the Red Cross.  It had a crank to recharge the batteries, plus many other nifty features, including a plug to recharge my cell phone.

Every family should have a plan as to how they will reconnect after a disaster.  If a disaster occurs, how will you find each other?  

Every community has many locations that are already designated as places to go after a disaster.  Know where your closest location is.

For people who don&#039;t ever consider a disaster -- and I don&#039;t spend much time thinking about it, even though I am prepared for at least a week -- if you are near a highway or, especially, a railroad track, you probably have NO idea how much hazardous materials pass every day.  It boggles the mind.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As part of my emergency preparedness kit, I bought a radio from the Red Cross.  It had a crank to recharge the batteries, plus many other nifty features, including a plug to recharge my cell phone.</p>
<p>Every family should have a plan as to how they will reconnect after a disaster.  If a disaster occurs, how will you find each other?  </p>
<p>Every community has many locations that are already designated as places to go after a disaster.  Know where your closest location is.</p>
<p>For people who don&#8217;t ever consider a disaster &#8212; and I don&#8217;t spend much time thinking about it, even though I am prepared for at least a week &#8212; if you are near a highway or, especially, a railroad track, you probably have NO idea how much hazardous materials pass every day.  It boggles the mind.</p>
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		<title>By: Rosa Rugosa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rosa Rugosa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 23:15:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just for the record, we live in New England, not far from Boston, and you really couldn&#039;t find a better place natural-disaster wise.  We do have a kerosene lamp for those brief blackouts, and a fairly decent wine cellar for whatever else life throws our way :)  I suppose we could always cook ramen in the chimenea if push came to shove.
My philosophy is to never sweat the big stuff, and I do find it more productive to focus my mental energies on smaller issues like building up my emergency fund, stop buying crap, and other things that are directly within my control.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just for the record, we live in New England, not far from Boston, and you really couldn&#8217;t find a better place natural-disaster wise.  We do have a kerosene lamp for those brief blackouts, and a fairly decent wine cellar for whatever else life throws our way :)  I suppose we could always cook ramen in the chimenea if push came to shove.<br />
My philosophy is to never sweat the big stuff, and I do find it more productive to focus my mental energies on smaller issues like building up my emergency fund, stop buying crap, and other things that are directly within my control.</p>
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		<title>By: Josiah Garber</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/10/29/some-thoughts-on-ultra-preparedness/#comment-800352</link>
		<dc:creator>Josiah Garber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 20:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow this is a great article.  Thanks.  Also I would be wary of &#039;paper&#039; gold like etfs.  Just my two cents though.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow this is a great article.  Thanks.  Also I would be wary of &#8216;paper&#8217; gold like etfs.  Just my two cents though.</p>
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		<title>By: Claudia</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/10/29/some-thoughts-on-ultra-preparedness/#comment-800321</link>
		<dc:creator>Claudia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 19:48:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rosa - you are my kind of woman! Everyone who is being hard on you is way off base.  Noah, Adam and Eve seem more worried about the end of the world type situation than a normal natural disaster.  I am not going to spend my time worrying about the collapse of society, which is completely beyond my control and without knowing how long such a collapse would last, how can you prepare?  Can you have multiple years of food stocked?  
Where I live, we have been without power for no more than a couple days and that only once.  My sister was without power for almost a week once when a bad storm blew down thousands of trees.  Most of these storms leave only selected rural areas without power for a long time, so food is still available.  Most people probably have more than enough food in their pantry and freezers to last for several weeks, you may just not be able to cook every meal you&#039;d like.
You could end up loosing a lot of money in these supplies, if you are not carefully rotating them and using them as part of your regular meals.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rosa &#8211; you are my kind of woman! Everyone who is being hard on you is way off base.  Noah, Adam and Eve seem more worried about the end of the world type situation than a normal natural disaster.  I am not going to spend my time worrying about the collapse of society, which is completely beyond my control and without knowing how long such a collapse would last, how can you prepare?  Can you have multiple years of food stocked?<br />
Where I live, we have been without power for no more than a couple days and that only once.  My sister was without power for almost a week once when a bad storm blew down thousands of trees.  Most of these storms leave only selected rural areas without power for a long time, so food is still available.  Most people probably have more than enough food in their pantry and freezers to last for several weeks, you may just not be able to cook every meal you&#8217;d like.<br />
You could end up loosing a lot of money in these supplies, if you are not carefully rotating them and using them as part of your regular meals.</p>
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		<title>By: prufock</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/10/29/some-thoughts-on-ultra-preparedness/#comment-800286</link>
		<dc:creator>prufock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 18:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It seems Adam and Eve are both concerned with insurance  - Adam against financial disaster, Eve against natural disaster. I think it&#039;s important to recognize that these concerns are both rooted in fear, and maybe more than necessary.

It&#039;s fine to be prepared for emergency, but I don&#039;t see any point in stockpiling more than a week&#039;s worth of food, water, and emergency supplies. Your advice about gold was solid.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems Adam and Eve are both concerned with insurance  &#8211; Adam against financial disaster, Eve against natural disaster. I think it&#8217;s important to recognize that these concerns are both rooted in fear, and maybe more than necessary.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s fine to be prepared for emergency, but I don&#8217;t see any point in stockpiling more than a week&#8217;s worth of food, water, and emergency supplies. Your advice about gold was solid.</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/10/29/some-thoughts-on-ultra-preparedness/#comment-800269</link>
		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 17:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Apart from sterility, most hybrid plants won&#039;t breed true.  You&#039;re more likely to get only 1/4 of the next generation having the traits you bought the hybrid seed for in the first place.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apart from sterility, most hybrid plants won&#8217;t breed true.  You&#8217;re more likely to get only 1/4 of the next generation having the traits you bought the hybrid seed for in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/10/29/some-thoughts-on-ultra-preparedness/#comment-800268</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 17:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Do these people have 6 months emergency fund?   Do they have all their credit cards paid off?   Are they saving 10-15% of their income to prepare for retirement?   Do they have health insurance,  life insurance, long term care insurance, short and long term disability insurance?   

They should have ALL of those things before they throw money into food stocks or other &#039;end of the world&#039; preparations.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do these people have 6 months emergency fund?   Do they have all their credit cards paid off?   Are they saving 10-15% of their income to prepare for retirement?   Do they have health insurance,  life insurance, long term care insurance, short and long term disability insurance?   </p>
<p>They should have ALL of those things before they throw money into food stocks or other &#8216;end of the world&#8217; preparations.</p>
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		<title>By: Glen2Gs</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/10/29/some-thoughts-on-ultra-preparedness/#comment-800259</link>
		<dc:creator>Glen2Gs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 16:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Truth be known, dehydrated foods as a rule don&#039;t taste that great...And canned foods have a 10 year shelf life if the storage area is kept above freezing and below 90+ degrees.

It&#039;s always good to be prepared, for those of you who don&#039;t consider this to be a &quot;frugal use of..mental energy&quot;...Remember the Story of the Grasshopper and the Ant...

That, and better check to see if the pilot light has gone out on the &quot;Flame of Intelligence&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Truth be known, dehydrated foods as a rule don&#8217;t taste that great&#8230;And canned foods have a 10 year shelf life if the storage area is kept above freezing and below 90+ degrees.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s always good to be prepared, for those of you who don&#8217;t consider this to be a &#8220;frugal use of..mental energy&#8221;&#8230;Remember the Story of the Grasshopper and the Ant&#8230;</p>
<p>That, and better check to see if the pilot light has gone out on the &#8220;Flame of Intelligence&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Mo-Town</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/10/29/some-thoughts-on-ultra-preparedness/#comment-800251</link>
		<dc:creator>Mo-Town</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 16:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Colleen
&quot;Do you really save much money growing your own food, though? Taking into account the cost of things like seeds or starter plants, top soil, compost (or the equipment to make it), fertilizer, pest and weed control measures, equipment like boxes for starting seeds and shovels, and not to mention all that canning equipment or the extra freezer for storing the harvest, do you really come out ahead of conventional in-season fresh produce or frozen produce? Plus, if you don’t find gardening to be an entertaining pursuit, you’d reasonably have to account for the cost in time you must devote to it.&quot;
You can save a significant amount of money growing your own food if you know what to plant, and you don&#039;t have to start your own seeds to recognize these savings.  For example, most nurseries sell six or eight packs of herbs or vegetables for between 1 and 2 dollars.  Six tomato plants will easily yield 30 pounds of tomatoes each of 180 pounds of produce.  If you plant in raised beds and use mulch, you won&#039;t need much water, and very few people have soil that&#039;s so poor they actually need to amend it with topsoil or manuer to see decent results.  All told, you&#039;ll end up getting 180 pounds of tomatoes for about $30, and your costs will decrease in subsequent years because you won&#039;t need to purchase tomato cages again. 

The analysis is similar for a lot of high yield vegetables like beans, peppers, squash, eggplant, &quot;greens,&quot; etc.  

Of course, if you really want a big return for your dollar, you can plant fruit and nut trees.  A two-year old dwarf fruit tree will cost you $15.  Unless it&#039;s a citrus tree, it will take a year or two to start producing, but once it does, you&#039;ll get about 50 pounds of fruit a year, and all you have to do is give the tree a good watering every two or three weeks.

Now, you won&#039;t save money growning things like carrots or potatoes, and you won&#039;t save money if you use the fancy $30 tomato cages you see in gardening catalogues.  But many of the &quot;expenses&quot; you mentioned aren&#039;t really expensive or even necessary.  You don&#039;t need fertilizer, and if you want to amend your soild, most counties have composting programs where you can buy a cubic yard of compost for something like $15.

Gardening isn&#039;t everyone&#039;s cup of tea, but if you don&#039;t mind the work, you can definitely cut your grocery bill, and you&#039;ll almost certainly have better tasting fruits and vegetables.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Colleen<br />
&#8220;Do you really save much money growing your own food, though? Taking into account the cost of things like seeds or starter plants, top soil, compost (or the equipment to make it), fertilizer, pest and weed control measures, equipment like boxes for starting seeds and shovels, and not to mention all that canning equipment or the extra freezer for storing the harvest, do you really come out ahead of conventional in-season fresh produce or frozen produce? Plus, if you don’t find gardening to be an entertaining pursuit, you’d reasonably have to account for the cost in time you must devote to it.&#8221;<br />
You can save a significant amount of money growing your own food if you know what to plant, and you don&#8217;t have to start your own seeds to recognize these savings.  For example, most nurseries sell six or eight packs of herbs or vegetables for between 1 and 2 dollars.  Six tomato plants will easily yield 30 pounds of tomatoes each of 180 pounds of produce.  If you plant in raised beds and use mulch, you won&#8217;t need much water, and very few people have soil that&#8217;s so poor they actually need to amend it with topsoil or manuer to see decent results.  All told, you&#8217;ll end up getting 180 pounds of tomatoes for about $30, and your costs will decrease in subsequent years because you won&#8217;t need to purchase tomato cages again. </p>
<p>The analysis is similar for a lot of high yield vegetables like beans, peppers, squash, eggplant, &#8220;greens,&#8221; etc.  </p>
<p>Of course, if you really want a big return for your dollar, you can plant fruit and nut trees.  A two-year old dwarf fruit tree will cost you $15.  Unless it&#8217;s a citrus tree, it will take a year or two to start producing, but once it does, you&#8217;ll get about 50 pounds of fruit a year, and all you have to do is give the tree a good watering every two or three weeks.</p>
<p>Now, you won&#8217;t save money growning things like carrots or potatoes, and you won&#8217;t save money if you use the fancy $30 tomato cages you see in gardening catalogues.  But many of the &#8220;expenses&#8221; you mentioned aren&#8217;t really expensive or even necessary.  You don&#8217;t need fertilizer, and if you want to amend your soild, most counties have composting programs where you can buy a cubic yard of compost for something like $15.</p>
<p>Gardening isn&#8217;t everyone&#8217;s cup of tea, but if you don&#8217;t mind the work, you can definitely cut your grocery bill, and you&#8217;ll almost certainly have better tasting fruits and vegetables.</p>
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		<title>By: reulte</title>
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		<dc:creator>reulte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 16:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think about this much -- other than a week&#039;s worth of supplies in case of a local emergency such as a hurricane.

I think the best preparation is to be knowledgeable and on good terms with your neighbors.  Take some first aid training, learn mechanics, discover local flora and fauna.  It can be fun and post-apocolypsically appropriate (said with tongue only slightly in cheek).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think about this much &#8212; other than a week&#8217;s worth of supplies in case of a local emergency such as a hurricane.</p>
<p>I think the best preparation is to be knowledgeable and on good terms with your neighbors.  Take some first aid training, learn mechanics, discover local flora and fauna.  It can be fun and post-apocolypsically appropriate (said with tongue only slightly in cheek).</p>
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		<title>By: Tamara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tamara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 13:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know why everyone seems so down on the dehydrated food.  I dehydrate apple sauce to make fruit roll ups, bananas, pineapple, and apples to make dried fruit snacks, and marinated beef for beef jerky.  These are all things that can be made, and eaten on a regular basis, but that also provide nourishment in an emergency situation.  I agree that the focus should be on non-perishable in general, but we shouldn&#039;t ignore the dehydration options.

I have also dehydrated ground beef, and frozen veggies as well as pre-cooked stew.  These items are obviously more time intensive, and have to be re-hydrated before consumption.

To Shevy - I live in southern Saskatchewan, and the only natural disaster we  ever have here is tornadoes.  The longest my power has ever been out is about 6 hours.  I recognize the need to prepare for potential disasters, but some locations need more preparation than others, and it is possible Rosa is in a location where there is little risk.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know why everyone seems so down on the dehydrated food.  I dehydrate apple sauce to make fruit roll ups, bananas, pineapple, and apples to make dried fruit snacks, and marinated beef for beef jerky.  These are all things that can be made, and eaten on a regular basis, but that also provide nourishment in an emergency situation.  I agree that the focus should be on non-perishable in general, but we shouldn&#8217;t ignore the dehydration options.</p>
<p>I have also dehydrated ground beef, and frozen veggies as well as pre-cooked stew.  These items are obviously more time intensive, and have to be re-hydrated before consumption.</p>
<p>To Shevy &#8211; I live in southern Saskatchewan, and the only natural disaster we  ever have here is tornadoes.  The longest my power has ever been out is about 6 hours.  I recognize the need to prepare for potential disasters, but some locations need more preparation than others, and it is possible Rosa is in a location where there is little risk.</p>
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		<title>By: littlepitcher</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 13:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Colleen--Check out Ruth Stout&#039;s books on gardening.  After the first year, they cut the work substantially.  Initial investments in pressure canner and canning jars have to be amortized.  If you can get secondhand canning jars, the cost of canning drops a bunch.  Gas range is cheaper than electric, and if you can outside on a 2-burner propane stove, your air conditioning will not be affected.  Always can as much as you can get out of your garden or your cheapest farmers&#039; market produce, because climate factors may mean a reduced crop and increased prices next year. Home-canned goods also don&#039;t require storage water to cook in an emergency.
 
Best investments in dehydrated food are things you use regularly--oatmeal, grits, pasta, couscous and bulgur which require little cooking and, therefore, little fuel.  For emergency beans, I&#039;d recommend lentils, since they take almost no time to cook.   Put up plenty of herbs and spices--you&#039;ll need them. 

If you&#039;ve ever tasted MRE&#039;s, you&#039;ll cry for our servicemen and women.  Don&#039;t waste your money.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Colleen&#8211;Check out Ruth Stout&#8217;s books on gardening.  After the first year, they cut the work substantially.  Initial investments in pressure canner and canning jars have to be amortized.  If you can get secondhand canning jars, the cost of canning drops a bunch.  Gas range is cheaper than electric, and if you can outside on a 2-burner propane stove, your air conditioning will not be affected.  Always can as much as you can get out of your garden or your cheapest farmers&#8217; market produce, because climate factors may mean a reduced crop and increased prices next year. Home-canned goods also don&#8217;t require storage water to cook in an emergency.</p>
<p>Best investments in dehydrated food are things you use regularly&#8211;oatmeal, grits, pasta, couscous and bulgur which require little cooking and, therefore, little fuel.  For emergency beans, I&#8217;d recommend lentils, since they take almost no time to cook.   Put up plenty of herbs and spices&#8211;you&#8217;ll need them. </p>
<p>If you&#8217;ve ever tasted MRE&#8217;s, you&#8217;ll cry for our servicemen and women.  Don&#8217;t waste your money.</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisD</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 11:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A friend of mine had a similar worry. He felt that in a hypothetical scenario where there is some big disaster and there is ONE plane flying out, whoever can offer most money would get on that plane. He didn&#039;t have enough money for this hypothetical ticket and therefore felt that he didn&#039;t have &#039;enough&#039; money saved up. 
I had to question the assumption though. In this hypothetical apocalypse, where is the plane supposed to fly to? In Europe (Germany, UK) we don&#039;t seem to have the type of natural disasters that require a months supply of food (days maybe). In these cases people get evacuated to safe areas. For a true apocalypse you need to move to the country and get self sufficient. For any merely terrible recession Europe seems fine. 
(Also if you are worried about the collapse of the dollar Iceland might be a useful case study).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A friend of mine had a similar worry. He felt that in a hypothetical scenario where there is some big disaster and there is ONE plane flying out, whoever can offer most money would get on that plane. He didn&#8217;t have enough money for this hypothetical ticket and therefore felt that he didn&#8217;t have &#8216;enough&#8217; money saved up.<br />
I had to question the assumption though. In this hypothetical apocalypse, where is the plane supposed to fly to? In Europe (Germany, UK) we don&#8217;t seem to have the type of natural disasters that require a months supply of food (days maybe). In these cases people get evacuated to safe areas. For a true apocalypse you need to move to the country and get self sufficient. For any merely terrible recession Europe seems fine.<br />
(Also if you are worried about the collapse of the dollar Iceland might be a useful case study).</p>
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		<title>By: Lenore</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 10:57:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[From what I&#039;ve read, Adam and Eve ought to take care of their garden, and Noah should build an Ark.  As for me, I keep a small stockpile of non-perishable food, water in old milk jugs, flashlights, &quot;aim and flame&quot; lighters, those &quot;canned heat&quot; things they put under trays of food at buffets, blankets and a kerosene heater.  Living in Illinois, I&#039;m mostly concerned about an extended power loss in the winter, tornado or flood.  I agree that food and basics like toilet paper would be more helpful than gold in a disaster or financial collapse.  I&#039;d also put my money toward canned beans and tuna before coffee or cigarettes because addictions are secondary to hunger in truly dire circumstances.  For anyone obsessing about the end of the world:  STOP!  It&#039;s wise to be prepared, but it&#039;s unhealthy to worry about things we cannot control that may never come to pass.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From what I&#8217;ve read, Adam and Eve ought to take care of their garden, and Noah should build an Ark.  As for me, I keep a small stockpile of non-perishable food, water in old milk jugs, flashlights, &#8220;aim and flame&#8221; lighters, those &#8220;canned heat&#8221; things they put under trays of food at buffets, blankets and a kerosene heater.  Living in Illinois, I&#8217;m mostly concerned about an extended power loss in the winter, tornado or flood.  I agree that food and basics like toilet paper would be more helpful than gold in a disaster or financial collapse.  I&#8217;d also put my money toward canned beans and tuna before coffee or cigarettes because addictions are secondary to hunger in truly dire circumstances.  For anyone obsessing about the end of the world:  STOP!  It&#8217;s wise to be prepared, but it&#8217;s unhealthy to worry about things we cannot control that may never come to pass.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexandra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 10:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You know, there ARE some places where natural disasters just aren&#039;t something to worry about.
Where I live the only thing I should worry about is getting out of the city in case of riots, large fire or terrorist attacks. Or staying home until things blow over.
So having a week&#039;s worth of food is a good idea, a little cash on hand to be able to up and leave, a bike for each family member, attachments to transport pets  and food/clothes, and apart from that an emergency fund. 
It isn&#039;t worth my time to go over disaster scenarios if I know how to flee if I have to.
Don&#039;t be so harsh on Rosa!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, there ARE some places where natural disasters just aren&#8217;t something to worry about.<br />
Where I live the only thing I should worry about is getting out of the city in case of riots, large fire or terrorist attacks. Or staying home until things blow over.<br />
So having a week&#8217;s worth of food is a good idea, a little cash on hand to be able to up and leave, a bike for each family member, attachments to transport pets  and food/clothes, and apart from that an emergency fund.<br />
It isn&#8217;t worth my time to go over disaster scenarios if I know how to flee if I have to.<br />
Don&#8217;t be so harsh on Rosa!</p>
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		<title>By: kristine</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 10:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ha! I agree about the grow-lights- I&#039;d have cops at my door in a day. 

A great book: The Long Emergency, by Kunstler. Talks about the societal reorganization back to a &quot;village&quot; state in the event of a true gas crisis, as opposed to the gas inconveniences we have experienced so far.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha! I agree about the grow-lights- I&#8217;d have cops at my door in a day. </p>
<p>A great book: The Long Emergency, by Kunstler. Talks about the societal reorganization back to a &#8220;village&#8221; state in the event of a true gas crisis, as opposed to the gas inconveniences we have experienced so far.</p>
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