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		<title>By: Takilla</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/12/21/reader-mailbag-94/#comment-837450</link>
		<dc:creator>Takilla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 20:16:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[From what I&#039;ve seen and read (so take it with a grain of salt) you can make $10 an hour there and on other HIT (Human Intelligence Tasks) sites one of two ways:

1.  Have a specific skill you can do quickly that required training (EG summarizing medical or legal documents).

2.  Find a decent paying task that you can do really fast.  You get paid for what you do ... so if you&#039;re not fast, you&#039;ll be making like $2 an hour (EG, finding contact numbers on websites).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From what I&#8217;ve seen and read (so take it with a grain of salt) you can make $10 an hour there and on other HIT (Human Intelligence Tasks) sites one of two ways:</p>
<p>1.  Have a specific skill you can do quickly that required training (EG summarizing medical or legal documents).</p>
<p>2.  Find a decent paying task that you can do really fast.  You get paid for what you do &#8230; so if you&#8217;re not fast, you&#8217;ll be making like $2 an hour (EG, finding contact numbers on websites).</p>
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		<title>By: Cindy</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/12/21/reader-mailbag-94/#comment-836625</link>
		<dc:creator>Cindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 04:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow!  Happy Holiday wishes to all of you too...

I really didn&#039;t enjoy all of the nastiness associated with this post.  I usually find useful information in the comments section - like additional comments to accentuate the information in the post.  Although I admit the post that started it all was not what I come here for either...

Can anyone put down their hatchets long enough to comment on Mecanical Turk?  I just took a look at it for the first time and it (1) didn&#039;t look like I could even make anywhere close to $10 per hour and (2) would there be the possibility of getting scammed by the organizations offering the work?  I don&#039;t really understand how it works.  I would appreciate comments from other people who have tried it (I know Trent did discuss it in an earlier blog).

Thanks and happy holidays.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow!  Happy Holiday wishes to all of you too&#8230;</p>
<p>I really didn&#8217;t enjoy all of the nastiness associated with this post.  I usually find useful information in the comments section &#8211; like additional comments to accentuate the information in the post.  Although I admit the post that started it all was not what I come here for either&#8230;</p>
<p>Can anyone put down their hatchets long enough to comment on Mecanical Turk?  I just took a look at it for the first time and it (1) didn&#8217;t look like I could even make anywhere close to $10 per hour and (2) would there be the possibility of getting scammed by the organizations offering the work?  I don&#8217;t really understand how it works.  I would appreciate comments from other people who have tried it (I know Trent did discuss it in an earlier blog).</p>
<p>Thanks and happy holidays.</p>
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		<title>By: guinness416</title>
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		<dc:creator>guinness416</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 20:30:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The kid really needs to have an interest in the trades though, same as if he were to enter an academic program.  I went to a mostly vocational college with a trade school attached to it and work in the construction industry (on the white collar side).  Trust me, students can spend their whole time while pursuing an english degree drinking and sleeping late, but they can absolutely do the same in trade school too.  Apprenticeships are harder to &quot;fail&quot; out of but I&#039;ve seen that happen too.  A trade is a very decent career option (not to mention a great life skill) if not always the goldmine it&#039;s portrayed as, but you can&#039;t force your child to really want to be a carpenter any more than a librarian.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The kid really needs to have an interest in the trades though, same as if he were to enter an academic program.  I went to a mostly vocational college with a trade school attached to it and work in the construction industry (on the white collar side).  Trust me, students can spend their whole time while pursuing an english degree drinking and sleeping late, but they can absolutely do the same in trade school too.  Apprenticeships are harder to &#8220;fail&#8221; out of but I&#8217;ve seen that happen too.  A trade is a very decent career option (not to mention a great life skill) if not always the goldmine it&#8217;s portrayed as, but you can&#8217;t force your child to really want to be a carpenter any more than a librarian.</p>
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		<title>By: Mo-Town</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/12/21/reader-mailbag-94/#comment-834032</link>
		<dc:creator>Mo-Town</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 18:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with Lou.  It&#039;s very easy to spend four or five years in college and leave with a degree that does nothing for you in terms of finding a good career.  Many people end up in office jobs doing work they could have performed just as well with nothing more than a HS diploma.  For these people, the college degree is just a high-priced credential that employers look for when hiring.

It seems to me that over the last 20 or 30 years, America has developed an increasingly snooty attidtude toward the trades and the military, and I think that&#039;s a shame.  I have several friends who are electricians and cabinet makers, and they have six figure incomes.  The median family income in my neck of the woods is $40k, so they&#039;re doing very well.  In fact, on a good year, they make more than I do as an attorney.

Barring some huge leap in technology, we will always need plubmers, electricians and auto mechanics.  With Americans becoming less &quot;handy,&quot; the need for these tradespeople&#039;s services increases, as does the amount they can charge for their services.  A skilled, hard working tradesperson can do very well for him/herself.

As an added bonus, tradespeople tend to have very nice homes because when a tradesperson wants to remodel, the only cost he/she has to pay is the material cost.  Even if the tradesperson doesn&#039;t have a specific skill like tiling or carpentry, he/she surely has a friend with the skill.

If a child has the natural talen to enter one of the trades and wants to do so, I would never discourage him/her from doing so.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Lou.  It&#8217;s very easy to spend four or five years in college and leave with a degree that does nothing for you in terms of finding a good career.  Many people end up in office jobs doing work they could have performed just as well with nothing more than a HS diploma.  For these people, the college degree is just a high-priced credential that employers look for when hiring.</p>
<p>It seems to me that over the last 20 or 30 years, America has developed an increasingly snooty attidtude toward the trades and the military, and I think that&#8217;s a shame.  I have several friends who are electricians and cabinet makers, and they have six figure incomes.  The median family income in my neck of the woods is $40k, so they&#8217;re doing very well.  In fact, on a good year, they make more than I do as an attorney.</p>
<p>Barring some huge leap in technology, we will always need plubmers, electricians and auto mechanics.  With Americans becoming less &#8220;handy,&#8221; the need for these tradespeople&#8217;s services increases, as does the amount they can charge for their services.  A skilled, hard working tradesperson can do very well for him/herself.</p>
<p>As an added bonus, tradespeople tend to have very nice homes because when a tradesperson wants to remodel, the only cost he/she has to pay is the material cost.  Even if the tradesperson doesn&#8217;t have a specific skill like tiling or carpentry, he/she surely has a friend with the skill.</p>
<p>If a child has the natural talen to enter one of the trades and wants to do so, I would never discourage him/her from doing so.</p>
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		<title>By: Lou</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/12/21/reader-mailbag-94/#comment-833951</link>
		<dc:creator>Lou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 14:07:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Too bad the trade school vs college item ran with the racism item.  IF anyone reads down this far, this is a retired college prof writing.  

Having real world skills, ie knowing how to do something useful, is never wasted, but some college courses are a waste of time.  A college degree is not a ticket to a prosperous life - the statistic that made people think so came from an era when most people going to college were from well-off families.  These days it is the absence of a college degree that bars many from  jobs they could perform very well.

That said, the value of a college course comes from 2 real benefits:  1) A systematic (and therefore timesaving) introduction to what  others have thought and written about what makes a life worth living, and 2) an introduction into the various ways of framing a problem (how one asks a question has a strong impact on the possibilities one can see for its answer - or, as Maslow said &quot;If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to see all problems as nails.&quot;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too bad the trade school vs college item ran with the racism item.  IF anyone reads down this far, this is a retired college prof writing.  </p>
<p>Having real world skills, ie knowing how to do something useful, is never wasted, but some college courses are a waste of time.  A college degree is not a ticket to a prosperous life &#8211; the statistic that made people think so came from an era when most people going to college were from well-off families.  These days it is the absence of a college degree that bars many from  jobs they could perform very well.</p>
<p>That said, the value of a college course comes from 2 real benefits:  1) A systematic (and therefore timesaving) introduction to what  others have thought and written about what makes a life worth living, and 2) an introduction into the various ways of framing a problem (how one asks a question has a strong impact on the possibilities one can see for its answer &#8211; or, as Maslow said &#8220;If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to see all problems as nails.&#8221;)</p>
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		<title>By: Jeroen</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/12/21/reader-mailbag-94/#comment-833868</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeroen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 09:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Griffin: using culture like that is a generalisation. All generalisations about cultures are (statitically) wrong. Especially in this case: are those neighbourhoods less violent because of the Scandinavians or are those of Scandinavian descent there because of the low violence. Also: what is left of Scandinavian culture after being cut off from Nordic Countries for a couple of generations? And how much influence does environment have? (FR.EX: what would happen if you transplant Trents neighbours to a Philly Project for 2 generations.) In short: nobody knows, so drawing conclusions about it isn&#039;t the smartest thing to do. Is it racism? Not necessarily, but racism is based on the same kind of generalisations (so is sexism, BTW)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Griffin: using culture like that is a generalisation. All generalisations about cultures are (statitically) wrong. Especially in this case: are those neighbourhoods less violent because of the Scandinavians or are those of Scandinavian descent there because of the low violence. Also: what is left of Scandinavian culture after being cut off from Nordic Countries for a couple of generations? And how much influence does environment have? (FR.EX: what would happen if you transplant Trents neighbours to a Philly Project for 2 generations.) In short: nobody knows, so drawing conclusions about it isn&#8217;t the smartest thing to do. Is it racism? Not necessarily, but racism is based on the same kind of generalisations (so is sexism, BTW)</p>
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		<title>By: Griffin</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/12/21/reader-mailbag-94/#comment-833836</link>
		<dc:creator>Griffin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 08:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I find it truly bizarre that people are so offended by your comment about Scandinavians.  They&#039;re also very prone to recycling, keeping their yard clean and having high property values.  Obviously none of those things have anything to do with race -- they have &lt;b&gt;everything to do with culture&lt;/b&gt;.

I say this as someone who is multiracial and grew up in an area with a lot of neo-Nazis (and suffered greatly because of it).  &lt;b&gt;If commenters can&#039;t distinguish between culture and race, then they are (IMO) too ignorant for the discussion.&lt;/b&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it truly bizarre that people are so offended by your comment about Scandinavians.  They&#8217;re also very prone to recycling, keeping their yard clean and having high property values.  Obviously none of those things have anything to do with race &#8212; they have <b>everything to do with culture</b>.</p>
<p>I say this as someone who is multiracial and grew up in an area with a lot of neo-Nazis (and suffered greatly because of it).  <b>If commenters can&#8217;t distinguish between culture and race, then they are (IMO) too ignorant for the discussion.</b></p>
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		<title>By: Henry</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/12/21/reader-mailbag-94/#comment-833810</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 06:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read October 1 2009 How TSD Earns Money </p>
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		<title>By: Henry</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/12/21/reader-mailbag-94/#comment-833808</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 06:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Liar.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liar.</p>
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		<title>By: guinness416</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/12/21/reader-mailbag-94/#comment-833753</link>
		<dc:creator>guinness416</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 03:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Can we get a deletion on deRuiter&#039;s trash Trent?  That&#039;s the second thread (which isn&#039;t even about scandinavians) I&#039;ve seen which he&#039;s jumped into from planet wingnut to spew that bile.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can we get a deletion on deRuiter&#8217;s trash Trent?  That&#8217;s the second thread (which isn&#8217;t even about scandinavians) I&#8217;ve seen which he&#8217;s jumped into from planet wingnut to spew that bile.</p>
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		<title>By: Lexi</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/12/21/reader-mailbag-94/#comment-833723</link>
		<dc:creator>Lexi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 02:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Trent-  I love your blog and read it almost daily.  I admire your strength and courage to leave your comments open.  It would be so easy for you to delete any negative or opposing viewpoints, and none but you and the author would know.  I have nothing but the utmost respect for you because you allow your readers to speak their minds.

I enjoy your blog immensely and am so glad that it has grown from solely PF to include a wide range of beneficial advice.

I also agree with Auntielle, I would love to be able to donate money because of the value I receive from your blog.  However, I understand and applaud your reason for not adding a paypal link.  

I love TSD!  Thank you, Trent!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trent-  I love your blog and read it almost daily.  I admire your strength and courage to leave your comments open.  It would be so easy for you to delete any negative or opposing viewpoints, and none but you and the author would know.  I have nothing but the utmost respect for you because you allow your readers to speak their minds.</p>
<p>I enjoy your blog immensely and am so glad that it has grown from solely PF to include a wide range of beneficial advice.</p>
<p>I also agree with Auntielle, I would love to be able to donate money because of the value I receive from your blog.  However, I understand and applaud your reason for not adding a paypal link.  </p>
<p>I love TSD!  Thank you, Trent!</p>
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		<title>By: kim</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/12/21/reader-mailbag-94/#comment-833699</link>
		<dc:creator>kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 01:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a person of swedish and norwegian descent, I would like to thank you for the lovely compliment.  I&#039;ve read your statement over and over and I can not fathom why someone would find it offensive.  If my family history is any indication, scandinavian immigrants tended to be frugal people who worked hard and valued community ties.  Tight knit populations of fiscally conservative people tend to foster safe communities.    There is no mention of superiority.  Get a grip people.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a person of swedish and norwegian descent, I would like to thank you for the lovely compliment.  I&#8217;ve read your statement over and over and I can not fathom why someone would find it offensive.  If my family history is any indication, scandinavian immigrants tended to be frugal people who worked hard and valued community ties.  Tight knit populations of fiscally conservative people tend to foster safe communities.    There is no mention of superiority.  Get a grip people.</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/12/21/reader-mailbag-94/#comment-833681</link>
		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 23:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Trent - you do realize that per the US Census of 2000, Scandinavian-Americans only represent 11.5% of Iowa&#039;s population?  So the statement that “The people are mostly Norwegian and Swedish, which means lots of calm and friendly temperaments.” is false merely in that most residents of Iowa are not Norwegian or Swedish.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trent &#8211; you do realize that per the US Census of 2000, Scandinavian-Americans only represent 11.5% of Iowa&#8217;s population?  So the statement that “The people are mostly Norwegian and Swedish, which means lots of calm and friendly temperaments.” is false merely in that most residents of Iowa are not Norwegian or Swedish.</p>
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		<title>By: kirstie</title>
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		<dc:creator>kirstie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 21:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Its very difficult to disentangle culture from environment. Another less attractive stereotype of northern Europeans, particularly those living in the far north is that they are hard drinking and suffer from depression.  However, this idea is also linked to the effect of sunlight deprivation.  Maybe expat Scandinavians don&#039;t suffer the same problems.  In the same way, I would imagine it is virtually impossible to conduct a study of racial characteristics and discount social effects such as generations of poverty.

I suppose my point is culture and race should not be confused.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its very difficult to disentangle culture from environment. Another less attractive stereotype of northern Europeans, particularly those living in the far north is that they are hard drinking and suffer from depression.  However, this idea is also linked to the effect of sunlight deprivation.  Maybe expat Scandinavians don&#8217;t suffer the same problems.  In the same way, I would imagine it is virtually impossible to conduct a study of racial characteristics and discount social effects such as generations of poverty.</p>
<p>I suppose my point is culture and race should not be confused.</p>
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		<title>By: Joan</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/12/21/reader-mailbag-94/#comment-833626</link>
		<dc:creator>Joan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 20:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Trent:  Thank you for a very interesting post. I agree wholeheartedly with Evita.  I read the comments because most of the time there is some very good information in them; however, sometimes it seems like the commenters just want you to be PC and just a rubber stamp with what sociality thinks everyone should think and feel.  Kudos, Kudos, for having the courage to be true to yourself.  I agree TSD is the BEST BLOG AROUND.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trent:  Thank you for a very interesting post. I agree wholeheartedly with Evita.  I read the comments because most of the time there is some very good information in them; however, sometimes it seems like the commenters just want you to be PC and just a rubber stamp with what sociality thinks everyone should think and feel.  Kudos, Kudos, for having the courage to be true to yourself.  I agree TSD is the BEST BLOG AROUND.</p>
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		<title>By: Evita</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/12/21/reader-mailbag-94/#comment-833618</link>
		<dc:creator>Evita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 19:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is so much negativity and agressivity in the comments..... I don&#039;t know how Trent can bear it. I know I wouldn&#039;t.
Maybe I should stop reading the comments even though they provide a useful counterpoint to Trent&#039;s posts. It is just too depressing some days!!
Kudos to Trent for keeping his head high through all this! TSD is still the best finance blog around!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is so much negativity and agressivity in the comments&#8230;.. I don&#8217;t know how Trent can bear it. I know I wouldn&#8217;t.<br />
Maybe I should stop reading the comments even though they provide a useful counterpoint to Trent&#8217;s posts. It is just too depressing some days!!<br />
Kudos to Trent for keeping his head high through all this! TSD is still the best finance blog around!</p>
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		<title>By: Auntielle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Auntielle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 19:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Exactly, Todd(#71). You nailed it. Without true honesty on the topic of racism and diversity, the dialogue benefits no one, and really is pointless.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly, Todd(#71). You nailed it. Without true honesty on the topic of racism and diversity, the dialogue benefits no one, and really is pointless.</p>
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		<title>By: graytham</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/12/21/reader-mailbag-94/#comment-833530</link>
		<dc:creator>graytham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 16:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Noah #61 wrote:

&quot;I like Mary’s comment. Johanna and Sarah have a lot of comments on how you should think and blog, respectively. I’d take your own advice and ignore them.

Keep up the good work!&quot;

I agree, on all counts (including Mary&#039;s original comment)!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Noah #61 wrote:</p>
<p>&#8220;I like Mary’s comment. Johanna and Sarah have a lot of comments on how you should think and blog, respectively. I’d take your own advice and ignore them.</p>
<p>Keep up the good work!&#8221;</p>
<p>I agree, on all counts (including Mary&#8217;s original comment)!</p>
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		<title>By: Todd</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/12/21/reader-mailbag-94/#comment-833513</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 15:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just don&#039;t see why it is so difficult to acknowledge one&#039;s racism.  Most people are so defensive in saying, &quot;I&#039;m not racist,&quot; meaning something like &quot;I&#039;m a nice person.&quot;  Well, not ever telling a racist joke and being polite to others is NOT the opposite of racism.  
  As a middle-aged, middle-class white male, I acknowledge that I am participating in racism whenever I buy a house or car more easily than someone else, whenever a  police officer let&#039;s me off with only a warning (or doesn&#039;t pull me over at all), when I come and go freely from stores without being followed around, and a million other freedoms I enjoy without even thinking about it.  Wherever I travel in this country, I move around easily and am treated with respect.
  To say I&#039;m not personally &quot;racist&quot; doesn&#039;t amount to a hill of beans.  As I&#039;ve stated before, I believe that racism (and poverty) are defined as systematic violence (and yes, can be just as traumatic as &quot;real&quot; violence).  Until I work to actively change that system--which I admit I don&#039;t often--I wouldn&#039;t dare say &quot;I&#039;m not racist.&quot;  I benefit from racism (and from the low paid labor of many people in the world).  As someone who benefits from such privileges, I believe I should at least have the guts to be honest (and no little bit ashamed) about it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just don&#8217;t see why it is so difficult to acknowledge one&#8217;s racism.  Most people are so defensive in saying, &#8220;I&#8217;m not racist,&#8221; meaning something like &#8220;I&#8217;m a nice person.&#8221;  Well, not ever telling a racist joke and being polite to others is NOT the opposite of racism.<br />
  As a middle-aged, middle-class white male, I acknowledge that I am participating in racism whenever I buy a house or car more easily than someone else, whenever a  police officer let&#8217;s me off with only a warning (or doesn&#8217;t pull me over at all), when I come and go freely from stores without being followed around, and a million other freedoms I enjoy without even thinking about it.  Wherever I travel in this country, I move around easily and am treated with respect.<br />
  To say I&#8217;m not personally &#8220;racist&#8221; doesn&#8217;t amount to a hill of beans.  As I&#8217;ve stated before, I believe that racism (and poverty) are defined as systematic violence (and yes, can be just as traumatic as &#8220;real&#8221; violence).  Until I work to actively change that system&#8211;which I admit I don&#8217;t often&#8211;I wouldn&#8217;t dare say &#8220;I&#8217;m not racist.&#8221;  I benefit from racism (and from the low paid labor of many people in the world).  As someone who benefits from such privileges, I believe I should at least have the guts to be honest (and no little bit ashamed) about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Christine T.</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/12/21/reader-mailbag-94/#comment-833475</link>
		<dc:creator>Christine T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 14:27:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Trent most of your PF material seems backed up by research.  Maybe you want to do the same if you&#039;re going to address racism.  Or talk to someone who is an expert.  There are many fantistic blogs that discuss racism as their main topic.  Just like PF, if you don&#039;t make an effort to educate yourself then you&#039;re just not going to be that knowledgeable (unless you experience racism first hand throughout your life, that pretty much makes you an expert on it).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trent most of your PF material seems backed up by research.  Maybe you want to do the same if you&#8217;re going to address racism.  Or talk to someone who is an expert.  There are many fantistic blogs that discuss racism as their main topic.  Just like PF, if you don&#8217;t make an effort to educate yourself then you&#8217;re just not going to be that knowledgeable (unless you experience racism first hand throughout your life, that pretty much makes you an expert on it).</p>
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