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	<title>Comments on: Trimming the Average Budget: Other Transportation Expenses</title>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2010/01/10/trimming-the-average-budget-other-transportation-expenses/#comment-844116</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 22:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The bus passes here in Seattle are only worth it if you are literally riding the bus almost every day. They cost 36 times the one-way fare, so you&#039;d have to go to work and back at least 18 times in a month to break even. I do believe the yearly pass sells for 11 times the monthly cost.

They do have a (relatively new) type of pass that you put money on that doesn&#039;t expire, however, there&#039;s no discount at all for doing that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The bus passes here in Seattle are only worth it if you are literally riding the bus almost every day. They cost 36 times the one-way fare, so you&#8217;d have to go to work and back at least 18 times in a month to break even. I do believe the yearly pass sells for 11 times the monthly cost.</p>
<p>They do have a (relatively new) type of pass that you put money on that doesn&#8217;t expire, however, there&#8217;s no discount at all for doing that.</p>
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		<title>By: Melissa</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2010/01/10/trimming-the-average-budget-other-transportation-expenses/#comment-843923</link>
		<dc:creator>Melissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 15:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Our biggest money saving tip concerning transportation is just to keep a car as long as possible. Once its paid off you have a car with no payments!! Just occasional service. I&#039;ve been payment free for about 3 years now, and i can put that $300 into savings.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our biggest money saving tip concerning transportation is just to keep a car as long as possible. Once its paid off you have a car with no payments!! Just occasional service. I&#8217;ve been payment free for about 3 years now, and i can put that $300 into savings.</p>
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		<title>By: Russ</title>
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		<dc:creator>Russ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 00:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OMG!

Doesn&#039;t anybody see the 800# gorilla in the room? How do you dispose of the used oil?

WHEW.. I feel better now!

Thanks]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG!</p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t anybody see the 800# gorilla in the room? How do you dispose of the used oil?</p>
<p>WHEW.. I feel better now!</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: SLCCOM</title>
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		<dc:creator>SLCCOM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 23:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t forget to invest in the best available bike helmet. And don&#039;t assume that you will be able to ride the bike without getting injured, sometimes seriously or fatally. I would rather have a couple of tons of steel and plastic around me than go up against the scofflaw drivers defenseless.

Stella, thanks for mentioning that not everybody is healthy. Almost all of Trent&#039;s advice is based on the assumption that you have unlimited energy to do things yourself, as is most people&#039;s on this blog. It is not necessarily laziness that has people buying convenience.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t forget to invest in the best available bike helmet. And don&#8217;t assume that you will be able to ride the bike without getting injured, sometimes seriously or fatally. I would rather have a couple of tons of steel and plastic around me than go up against the scofflaw drivers defenseless.</p>
<p>Stella, thanks for mentioning that not everybody is healthy. Almost all of Trent&#8217;s advice is based on the assumption that you have unlimited energy to do things yourself, as is most people&#8217;s on this blog. It is not necessarily laziness that has people buying convenience.</p>
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		<title>By: beth</title>
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		<dc:creator>beth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 22:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[shop around for auto insurance because every type and age and location of driver will have a different rate depending on how each company rates different risks.
check out primericasecure.com to get quotes on over 20 companies at once.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>shop around for auto insurance because every type and age and location of driver will have a different rate depending on how each company rates different risks.<br />
check out primericasecure.com to get quotes on over 20 companies at once.</p>
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		<title>By: MattJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>MattJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 19:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Regarding getting your rental car at airports:  

Many rental agencies are charged fees for being located at the airport, and they have no choice but to pass them on to their customers.  I used to live in Atlanta and would rent cars for road trips.  Renting off site from the airport saved me about 30-40%.  They still allowed me to return the car to the airport, if I wanted.  The &#039;airport tax&#039; (just google &#039;airport concession fee&#039; if you want to see more about this charge generally) is worth avoiding, unless you&#039;re in an incredible hurry.  If you&#039;re staying somewhere for several days, catch a cab to an off-airport rental location where you&#039;ve already reserved a car.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding getting your rental car at airports:  </p>
<p>Many rental agencies are charged fees for being located at the airport, and they have no choice but to pass them on to their customers.  I used to live in Atlanta and would rent cars for road trips.  Renting off site from the airport saved me about 30-40%.  They still allowed me to return the car to the airport, if I wanted.  The &#8216;airport tax&#8217; (just google &#8216;airport concession fee&#8217; if you want to see more about this charge generally) is worth avoiding, unless you&#8217;re in an incredible hurry.  If you&#8217;re staying somewhere for several days, catch a cab to an off-airport rental location where you&#8217;ve already reserved a car.</p>
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		<title>By: Ward</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 19:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One thing not mentioned is that if your car is older and not worth much you can save a bundle by dropping the collision coverage(also called comprehensive).  My car is only worth about $1000, and with a $500 deductable the collision insurance was $300/year more, so even if I have an at fault accident, I would only be ahead by $200, and ater the first year, I am ahead regardless.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing not mentioned is that if your car is older and not worth much you can save a bundle by dropping the collision coverage(also called comprehensive).  My car is only worth about $1000, and with a $500 deductable the collision insurance was $300/year more, so even if I have an at fault accident, I would only be ahead by $200, and ater the first year, I am ahead regardless.</p>
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		<title>By: Sm4k</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sm4k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 17:51:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ll echo the common theme here that frequently paying someone else to change your oil is pretty close to the same cost as doing it yourself. Around here, many places have an &#039;early bird special&#039; where you can get as much as a 25% discount just for getting the car in before 10am.

However, it&#039;s still important to know how to do that kind of stuff, and to keep an eye on things. 

We recently borrowed my mother&#039;s car, and just out of force of habit I checked her oil while filling it with gas, and found it almost entirely empty. This was only 2,000 miles after paying someone else to change it. Luckily we caught it in time and were able to prevent damage, but not checking it would have lead to some SERIOUSLY expensive problems.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll echo the common theme here that frequently paying someone else to change your oil is pretty close to the same cost as doing it yourself. Around here, many places have an &#8216;early bird special&#8217; where you can get as much as a 25% discount just for getting the car in before 10am.</p>
<p>However, it&#8217;s still important to know how to do that kind of stuff, and to keep an eye on things. </p>
<p>We recently borrowed my mother&#8217;s car, and just out of force of habit I checked her oil while filling it with gas, and found it almost entirely empty. This was only 2,000 miles after paying someone else to change it. Luckily we caught it in time and were able to prevent damage, but not checking it would have lead to some SERIOUSLY expensive problems.</p>
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		<title>By: almost there</title>
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		<dc:creator>almost there</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 17:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I also find it curious that you are giving car maintrenance advice when you didn&#039;t even want to tackle any of the problems on your truck (some minor).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also find it curious that you are giving car maintrenance advice when you didn&#8217;t even want to tackle any of the problems on your truck (some minor).</p>
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		<title>By: Debbie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Debbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 16:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree about doing car rentals in advance. You can get great bargains on car rental by comparing the different rental sites and also looking at airline sites. I always use off -site such as Dollar, National etc. and have been impressed by their service and ease of using a shuttle bus to get to their sites.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree about doing car rentals in advance. You can get great bargains on car rental by comparing the different rental sites and also looking at airline sites. I always use off -site such as Dollar, National etc. and have been impressed by their service and ease of using a shuttle bus to get to their sites.</p>
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		<title>By: DivaJean</title>
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		<dc:creator>DivaJean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 15:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Check out different bus pass plans available. 

Like others have mentioned, if you are using your pass only for work, a montly pass might not be the cheapest. However, I found out that my bus system offers a 10 pass card. There isn&#039;t any savings, but I&#039;m not struggling to find fare money at the last minute twice a day.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out different bus pass plans available. </p>
<p>Like others have mentioned, if you are using your pass only for work, a montly pass might not be the cheapest. However, I found out that my bus system offers a 10 pass card. There isn&#8217;t any savings, but I&#8217;m not struggling to find fare money at the last minute twice a day.</p>
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		<title>By: Johanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 14:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Henry: I think you&#039;re confusing me with someone else.  I remember the exchange you&#039;re referring to, but I didn&#039;t initiate it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Henry: I think you&#8217;re confusing me with someone else.  I remember the exchange you&#8217;re referring to, but I didn&#8217;t initiate it.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 14:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;This UNLCLEARLY-defined ...&quot;

&quot;With such a varied CAETGORY ...&quot;

&quot;In the comments, please let me know which of the tips you find most useful for trimming SHELTER costs&quot;

Oh come on, Trent, that&#039;s just lazy.  You&#039;re getting paid to write this stuff, show a little pride in your work, for crying out loud.

&quot;Don’t buy cars on a payment plan. Instead of making a down payment and shelling out cash out of pocket for the payments, pay cash for the whole thing up front. &quot;

Do as I say, not as I do, eh?  You had to know we would jump on this one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This UNLCLEARLY-defined &#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;With such a varied CAETGORY &#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;In the comments, please let me know which of the tips you find most useful for trimming SHELTER costs&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh come on, Trent, that&#8217;s just lazy.  You&#8217;re getting paid to write this stuff, show a little pride in your work, for crying out loud.</p>
<p>&#8220;Don’t buy cars on a payment plan. Instead of making a down payment and shelling out cash out of pocket for the payments, pay cash for the whole thing up front. &#8221;</p>
<p>Do as I say, not as I do, eh?  You had to know we would jump on this one.</p>
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		<title>By: Steffie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steffie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 13:06:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I let my man change my oil and do other maintenance on my car.  He likes to work with his hands and he feels like he is contributing more to our family than just $.  For car rental etc, my auto service, AAA, offers discounts on many things car related, and some other stuff too. Even though I don&#039;t always use the service for a &#039;tow&#039; the membership $ is recouped by the discounts. If you are a member look on their website.  Also your employer may have agreements with companies in the &#039;Travel&#039; industry. Mine does and on cell phones, amusement parks, they might not advertise it, try contacting your personnel office.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I let my man change my oil and do other maintenance on my car.  He likes to work with his hands and he feels like he is contributing more to our family than just $.  For car rental etc, my auto service, AAA, offers discounts on many things car related, and some other stuff too. Even though I don&#8217;t always use the service for a &#8216;tow&#8217; the membership $ is recouped by the discounts. If you are a member look on their website.  Also your employer may have agreements with companies in the &#8216;Travel&#8217; industry. Mine does and on cell phones, amusement parks, they might not advertise it, try contacting your personnel office.</p>
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		<title>By: deRuiter</title>
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		<dc:creator>deRuiter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 11:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Little House,  You live in the unit, why don&#039;t you do something about the bug infestation?  For roaches, mix half and half sugar with Borax (from the laundry supply isle at the grocery store). Put it in saucers in unobtrusive spots where the roaches are, and stir the mixture up weekly so it stays granular.  Ants?  Set ant traps.  Flies?  Put up screens.  Keep all food put away in metal or plastic containers, remove sources of enticement: wipe up crumbs and spills immediately, Cover garbage in metal can with tight lid.  Vacuum frequently.  Wash floors with disenfectant.  Put mothballs in with out of season stored clothing and bedding.  Mosquitos?  Put a small water garden outdoors with some goldfish.  We use an old  porcelain laundry sink with a few feeder goldfish.  The still water encourages mosquitos to breed in the pool, and the fish gobble up the larbae so they never mature.  Put up a bat house, put up a plaform on the garage for swallows to nest.  You can also move instead of complaining!  
As to transportation, get a bike for local errands and close visits, and use it! You don&#039;t need a fancy, expensive bike.  In suburbia, many yard sales have very inexpensive bikes, and often you see bikes out for the trash, and can help yourself to free ones that way. My pre War, baloon tired bike is great for local runs, and when you want to stop, you back pedal.  It&#039;s easy, healthy and cheap! The only maintenance the bike&#039;s needed for years has been occasional air in the tires.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Little House,  You live in the unit, why don&#8217;t you do something about the bug infestation?  For roaches, mix half and half sugar with Borax (from the laundry supply isle at the grocery store). Put it in saucers in unobtrusive spots where the roaches are, and stir the mixture up weekly so it stays granular.  Ants?  Set ant traps.  Flies?  Put up screens.  Keep all food put away in metal or plastic containers, remove sources of enticement: wipe up crumbs and spills immediately, Cover garbage in metal can with tight lid.  Vacuum frequently.  Wash floors with disenfectant.  Put mothballs in with out of season stored clothing and bedding.  Mosquitos?  Put a small water garden outdoors with some goldfish.  We use an old  porcelain laundry sink with a few feeder goldfish.  The still water encourages mosquitos to breed in the pool, and the fish gobble up the larbae so they never mature.  Put up a bat house, put up a plaform on the garage for swallows to nest.  You can also move instead of complaining!<br />
As to transportation, get a bike for local errands and close visits, and use it! You don&#8217;t need a fancy, expensive bike.  In suburbia, many yard sales have very inexpensive bikes, and often you see bikes out for the trash, and can help yourself to free ones that way. My pre War, baloon tired bike is great for local runs, and when you want to stop, you back pedal.  It&#8217;s easy, healthy and cheap! The only maintenance the bike&#8217;s needed for years has been occasional air in the tires.</p>
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		<title>By: Shevy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shevy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 01:36:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, I gather from Henry&#039;s 2 remarks about tobacco (one on this post, the other on another in this series) that he&#039;s a smoker...

I&#039;m sure all the categories on that chart will come around sooner or later.

Since right now we&#039;re talking about transportation, let me point out that many of these items are in odd categories or that we may think we know what&#039;s included (for instance, how many realized that new car payments discussed recently did not include the interest paid on your car loan?).  I went back to the source, the Bureau of Labor Statistics, and hunted around until I found the glossary (which I then bookmarked, so I can go back to it easily).

So, when we talked about the average car payment being $300, that was actually the actual principal on the loan and the interest is tucked in here.

For people who buy automobiles, buying a cheaper car will lower the amount in the earlier category, paying cash or getting the best deal on the interest rate (look for those 0% offers) will assist in reducing their spending in this category (as will all advice on reducing maintenance costs).

On the other hand, not using a car eliminates spending in the previous category but probably will result in a net increase in this category.  That is, they won&#039;t be paying interest on a car loan or to change their oil, but they will be paying for cab fares, transit fares, membership in car sharing networks, paying for rentals, maintaining a bike, etc.

What you really want to look at is the total cost of owning, running and maintaining a car versus the total cost of all the other options you will use to get around in the absence of a car.  Some of those costs may show up in yet other categories to be discussed later.

For example, we deal with the situation of having 4 adults in one house, with 2 cars between them.  My son-in-law must take 1 to get to work 45 minutes drive away and not on transit lines.  I take the other in order to get 2 adults to work, plus 2 to 3 children to school/preschool.  That has left my husband cycling to work most days and very occasionally taking the bus partway and then having to walk the remainder of the way.

In addition to the cost of the bike and bike maintenance (already mentioned) he had to purchase special waterproof, reflective clothing (costing close to $300) in order to be able to bike to work in pouring rain.  Considering that we live in Western Canada, that means an average of 3 or 4 days per week through the winter.  The 2 or 3 days per *year* that it snows he either buses or the city comes to a screaming halt and everybody stays home.  That happens maybe one day per year, if we have more than 6 or 8 inches snow because most people here have no clue how to drive in snow.

My tip for reducing transit fares is that I buy books of faresavers whenever I know I&#039;ll be having to use the bus.  They come in books of 10, don&#039;t expire and there&#039;s a discount on the per zone fare cost.  It also means you don&#039;t have to find or carry the correct change.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, I gather from Henry&#8217;s 2 remarks about tobacco (one on this post, the other on another in this series) that he&#8217;s a smoker&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure all the categories on that chart will come around sooner or later.</p>
<p>Since right now we&#8217;re talking about transportation, let me point out that many of these items are in odd categories or that we may think we know what&#8217;s included (for instance, how many realized that new car payments discussed recently did not include the interest paid on your car loan?).  I went back to the source, the Bureau of Labor Statistics, and hunted around until I found the glossary (which I then bookmarked, so I can go back to it easily).</p>
<p>So, when we talked about the average car payment being $300, that was actually the actual principal on the loan and the interest is tucked in here.</p>
<p>For people who buy automobiles, buying a cheaper car will lower the amount in the earlier category, paying cash or getting the best deal on the interest rate (look for those 0% offers) will assist in reducing their spending in this category (as will all advice on reducing maintenance costs).</p>
<p>On the other hand, not using a car eliminates spending in the previous category but probably will result in a net increase in this category.  That is, they won&#8217;t be paying interest on a car loan or to change their oil, but they will be paying for cab fares, transit fares, membership in car sharing networks, paying for rentals, maintaining a bike, etc.</p>
<p>What you really want to look at is the total cost of owning, running and maintaining a car versus the total cost of all the other options you will use to get around in the absence of a car.  Some of those costs may show up in yet other categories to be discussed later.</p>
<p>For example, we deal with the situation of having 4 adults in one house, with 2 cars between them.  My son-in-law must take 1 to get to work 45 minutes drive away and not on transit lines.  I take the other in order to get 2 adults to work, plus 2 to 3 children to school/preschool.  That has left my husband cycling to work most days and very occasionally taking the bus partway and then having to walk the remainder of the way.</p>
<p>In addition to the cost of the bike and bike maintenance (already mentioned) he had to purchase special waterproof, reflective clothing (costing close to $300) in order to be able to bike to work in pouring rain.  Considering that we live in Western Canada, that means an average of 3 or 4 days per week through the winter.  The 2 or 3 days per *year* that it snows he either buses or the city comes to a screaming halt and everybody stays home.  That happens maybe one day per year, if we have more than 6 or 8 inches snow because most people here have no clue how to drive in snow.</p>
<p>My tip for reducing transit fares is that I buy books of faresavers whenever I know I&#8217;ll be having to use the bus.  They come in books of 10, don&#8217;t expire and there&#8217;s a discount on the per zone fare cost.  It also means you don&#8217;t have to find or carry the correct change.</p>
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		<title>By: almost there</title>
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		<dc:creator>almost there</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 01:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Little House, IRT the lowering rent due to bug infestation check with your state attny. general&#039;s office to see if there are any state laws being violated. Also look under the fair housing act (federal) and see what the landlord is guilty of.  Seem to recall that a person can either hold rent in abeyance and/or charge the landloard for hotel fees until apt. is free of bugs. No one should pay full rent for living in those conditions though most do because they feel powerless to protest. Of course, the landlord will most likely ask you to vacate so he can get renters that don&#039;t complain.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Little House, IRT the lowering rent due to bug infestation check with your state attny. general&#8217;s office to see if there are any state laws being violated. Also look under the fair housing act (federal) and see what the landlord is guilty of.  Seem to recall that a person can either hold rent in abeyance and/or charge the landloard for hotel fees until apt. is free of bugs. No one should pay full rent for living in those conditions though most do because they feel powerless to protest. Of course, the landlord will most likely ask you to vacate so he can get renters that don&#8217;t complain.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 00:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@#26 karyn if 5 letters of the English alphabet arranged in a certain pattern cause you such pain it is probably wise just to turn off the internet, TV and newspapers and just hide. 

@29 Welcome back Henry.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@#26 karyn if 5 letters of the English alphabet arranged in a certain pattern cause you such pain it is probably wise just to turn off the internet, TV and newspapers and just hide. </p>
<p>@29 Welcome back Henry.</p>
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		<title>By: Henry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 23:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@26 karyn.  That is there because someone is a liar.  Someone lied to Johanna about who is getting paid what by which advertising company and how, and blocked someone else from commenting because I had the evidence that it was all a lie. 
Johanna said negativity drives the page views here and racks up the advertising payoff for this blog, and that was denied.  Even though there was 
a post that stated very clearly to the contrary and was a complete backtrack.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@26 karyn.  That is there because someone is a liar.  Someone lied to Johanna about who is getting paid what by which advertising company and how, and blocked someone else from commenting because I had the evidence that it was all a lie.<br />
Johanna said negativity drives the page views here and racks up the advertising payoff for this blog, and that was denied.  Even though there was<br />
a post that stated very clearly to the contrary and was a complete backtrack.</p>
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		<title>By: stella</title>
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		<dc:creator>stella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 23:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you live in a major city and have health issues, you sometimes have to use cabs as you may not be able to go up/down stairs to access subways (only a very few have any kind of elevator access and even then, if you have to walk long distances and have trouble walking, you can&#039;t use the stop). This can even apply to certain busses that may not be accessible.

FYI: You don&#039;t have to be old to have health challenges that make it impossible to use public transportation. Sometimes you will only need cabs temporarily while recovering from an injury. For some, it&#039;s more permanent. 

Special rides are available for some folks but they are hard to schedule and very undependable.

Depending on where you are going, and if you can share a cab, you can sometimes NOT spend all that much more than public transportation.

And there are other considerations. I&#039;ve had friends who were carrying a lot of stuff and insisted on taking public transportation. Two pulled their backs badly, another injured an arm. Not only did this seriously affect their ability to work and do things, but it cost them a lot in terms of missed work, and doctors and hospital bills.

Sometimes, depending on your physical condition, you need to take cabs. And you have to factor that into your budget. You have to cut back on something else.

Even using cabs, if you group your errands you can save money.

And consider having stuff delivered. Even with fees, it&#039;s often less than public transportation, cabs or a car.

Cars in the city? It&#039;s throwing money away as well as your time (to find parking spots; and if you&#039;re paying for parking, in the city, that&#039;s serious OOP money).

Cheaper to rent zip cars, find/share rides with others.

yea, it can be problematic to schedule, but it&#039;s offset by so many other benefits of city living.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you live in a major city and have health issues, you sometimes have to use cabs as you may not be able to go up/down stairs to access subways (only a very few have any kind of elevator access and even then, if you have to walk long distances and have trouble walking, you can&#8217;t use the stop). This can even apply to certain busses that may not be accessible.</p>
<p>FYI: You don&#8217;t have to be old to have health challenges that make it impossible to use public transportation. Sometimes you will only need cabs temporarily while recovering from an injury. For some, it&#8217;s more permanent. </p>
<p>Special rides are available for some folks but they are hard to schedule and very undependable.</p>
<p>Depending on where you are going, and if you can share a cab, you can sometimes NOT spend all that much more than public transportation.</p>
<p>And there are other considerations. I&#8217;ve had friends who were carrying a lot of stuff and insisted on taking public transportation. Two pulled their backs badly, another injured an arm. Not only did this seriously affect their ability to work and do things, but it cost them a lot in terms of missed work, and doctors and hospital bills.</p>
<p>Sometimes, depending on your physical condition, you need to take cabs. And you have to factor that into your budget. You have to cut back on something else.</p>
<p>Even using cabs, if you group your errands you can save money.</p>
<p>And consider having stuff delivered. Even with fees, it&#8217;s often less than public transportation, cabs or a car.</p>
<p>Cars in the city? It&#8217;s throwing money away as well as your time (to find parking spots; and if you&#8217;re paying for parking, in the city, that&#8217;s serious OOP money).</p>
<p>Cheaper to rent zip cars, find/share rides with others.</p>
<p>yea, it can be problematic to schedule, but it&#8217;s offset by so many other benefits of city living.</p>
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