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		<title>By: Steven</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2010/01/20/trimming-the-average-budget-miscellaneous-including-a-surprising-biggie/#comment-848462</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 20:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@23 Christine T.

Finally found a link. Here’s a list of organizations that got grant money from the IRS.

www . irs . gov/pub/irs-tl/2010_vita_grants.pdf

Training classes might have ended by now, they usually hold classes in December – January I believe. Not sure, but this would probably be a good start by contacting some of these organizations.

(trying to get around the moderation because of the link)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@23 Christine T.</p>
<p>Finally found a link. Here’s a list of organizations that got grant money from the IRS.</p>
<p>www . irs . gov/pub/irs-tl/2010_vita_grants.pdf</p>
<p>Training classes might have ended by now, they usually hold classes in December – January I believe. Not sure, but this would probably be a good start by contacting some of these organizations.</p>
<p>(trying to get around the moderation because of the link)</p>
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		<title>By: jgonzales</title>
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		<dc:creator>jgonzales</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 18:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#22, Michael Bash

It&#039;s a meaningless gesture to the credit card company, but it&#039;s a huge gesture to the person who does the cutting. It means that while I still have to pay off the current balance, I can&#039;t go add more.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#22, Michael Bash</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a meaningless gesture to the credit card company, but it&#8217;s a huge gesture to the person who does the cutting. It means that while I still have to pay off the current balance, I can&#8217;t go add more.</p>
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		<title>By: prodgod</title>
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		<dc:creator>prodgod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 16:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@David/Yourfinances101:  That&#039;s a little harsh.  I have a tremendous amount of CC debt because I AM financially responsible.  I feel a moral obligation to pay debts that many others would&#039;ve opted out of via bankruptcy long ago.  I&#039;d rather pay a few points every year than walk away.  $8,000 in CC debt?  I&#039;ll have a party when it drops that low.  Believe it or not, just a few years ago, I was paying that much in finance charges every year.

I find it admirable when people state that they&#039;ve never carried a CC balance and never had a car payment and never this and never that.  I have to think they&#039;ve probably never owned a business and never taken many risks and &quot;never&quot; lots of other things, too.

My point?  Aw, heck...I forgot.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@David/Yourfinances101:  That&#8217;s a little harsh.  I have a tremendous amount of CC debt because I AM financially responsible.  I feel a moral obligation to pay debts that many others would&#8217;ve opted out of via bankruptcy long ago.  I&#8217;d rather pay a few points every year than walk away.  $8,000 in CC debt?  I&#8217;ll have a party when it drops that low.  Believe it or not, just a few years ago, I was paying that much in finance charges every year.</p>
<p>I find it admirable when people state that they&#8217;ve never carried a CC balance and never had a car payment and never this and never that.  I have to think they&#8217;ve probably never owned a business and never taken many risks and &#8220;never&#8221; lots of other things, too.</p>
<p>My point?  Aw, heck&#8230;I forgot.</p>
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		<title>By: Christine T.</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2010/01/20/trimming-the-average-budget-miscellaneous-including-a-surprising-biggie/#comment-848381</link>
		<dc:creator>Christine T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 15:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Steven #19
Which organizations do that.  That sounds like something I could do.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Steven #19<br />
Which organizations do that.  That sounds like something I could do.</p>
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		<title>By: michael bash</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael bash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 13:53:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I read thar cutting up a credit card is a meaningless gesture.  You have to cancel it with the company.  Otherwise charges can still accrue, a non-use fee being a good example.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read thar cutting up a credit card is a meaningless gesture.  You have to cancel it with the company.  Otherwise charges can still accrue, a non-use fee being a good example.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2010/01/20/trimming-the-average-budget-miscellaneous-including-a-surprising-biggie/#comment-848354</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 13:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with J.D. - the claim that &quot;the average American family carries about $8,000 in credit card debt&quot; is inaccurate.  Even in the article Trent linked to, the closest statement that supports Trent&#039;s claim is:

&quot;The average amount of credit card debt in households with more than one card is now more than $8,000&quot;

Note the key phrase &quot;with more than one card.&quot;  That&#039;s not at all the same as &quot;the average American family.&quot;  Lots of families only have 1 card, or none at all.

There are lies, damn lies, and statistics.

That said, Trent&#039;s main point stands - finance charges are a cancer on a household&#039;s finances.  The trend in recent years has been growing worse and worse.  I suspect the trend has reversed (or at least slowed a little) due to the massive credit crunch of the past 2 years, but it&#039;s too early to find supporting data.  And even if I&#039;m right, it will probably only be a temporary change, and given enough time, consumers will return to their borrowing ways in greater numbers than ever before.

But not the readers of Trent&#039;s site.  :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with J.D. &#8211; the claim that &#8220;the average American family carries about $8,000 in credit card debt&#8221; is inaccurate.  Even in the article Trent linked to, the closest statement that supports Trent&#8217;s claim is:</p>
<p>&#8220;The average amount of credit card debt in households with more than one card is now more than $8,000&#8243;</p>
<p>Note the key phrase &#8220;with more than one card.&#8221;  That&#8217;s not at all the same as &#8220;the average American family.&#8221;  Lots of families only have 1 card, or none at all.</p>
<p>There are lies, damn lies, and statistics.</p>
<p>That said, Trent&#8217;s main point stands &#8211; finance charges are a cancer on a household&#8217;s finances.  The trend in recent years has been growing worse and worse.  I suspect the trend has reversed (or at least slowed a little) due to the massive credit crunch of the past 2 years, but it&#8217;s too early to find supporting data.  And even if I&#8217;m right, it will probably only be a temporary change, and given enough time, consumers will return to their borrowing ways in greater numbers than ever before.</p>
<p>But not the readers of Trent&#8217;s site.  :)</p>
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		<title>By: Sandy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 13:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gosh..back when I kept a ledger budget book, under miscellaneous would go things like..picture developing, Girl Scout cookies, odds and ends items that didn&#039;t neatly fall into any other category. So if I understand this article correctly, if all of your misc. spending is just debt financing, under what category are all those other odds and ends items falling into? Shouldn&#039;t the category be &quot;Debt Repayment&quot;, not &quot;Miscellaneous&quot;?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gosh..back when I kept a ledger budget book, under miscellaneous would go things like..picture developing, Girl Scout cookies, odds and ends items that didn&#8217;t neatly fall into any other category. So if I understand this article correctly, if all of your misc. spending is just debt financing, under what category are all those other odds and ends items falling into? Shouldn&#8217;t the category be &#8220;Debt Repayment&#8221;, not &#8220;Miscellaneous&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Steven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 13:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@2 Steven + @15 Leah

On a debit card, you&#039;ve got the same protection no matter which way you process the transaction, you are only liable for up to $50 if you report it within 2 days. 

If a company chooses to, like Visa and Mastercard, they can offer the same protection as a credit card voluntarily, but are not required to do so by law.

On a credit card, you aren&#039;t liable for any fraudulent charges if you report it. Also, payment of the fraudulent charges means you have accepted that the charges are legitimate.

@12 chacha1

There are volunteer organizations that are more than happy to train you in basic tax law for a few days of your time in return. They will teach you what you need to know so you are able to assist low income families fill out their taxes. Not only do you learn something, you help out other families that are clueless about the tax system, and will probably end up getting ripped off just to have a 1040EZ filled out for them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@2 Steven + @15 Leah</p>
<p>On a debit card, you&#8217;ve got the same protection no matter which way you process the transaction, you are only liable for up to $50 if you report it within 2 days. </p>
<p>If a company chooses to, like Visa and Mastercard, they can offer the same protection as a credit card voluntarily, but are not required to do so by law.</p>
<p>On a credit card, you aren&#8217;t liable for any fraudulent charges if you report it. Also, payment of the fraudulent charges means you have accepted that the charges are legitimate.</p>
<p>@12 chacha1</p>
<p>There are volunteer organizations that are more than happy to train you in basic tax law for a few days of your time in return. They will teach you what you need to know so you are able to assist low income families fill out their taxes. Not only do you learn something, you help out other families that are clueless about the tax system, and will probably end up getting ripped off just to have a 1040EZ filled out for them.</p>
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		<title>By: David/Yourfinances101</title>
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		<dc:creator>David/Yourfinances101</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 10:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As far as I can tell, paying anything in finance charges to me equates to either stupidity, apathy, or lack of financial means.

If you can afford not to pay anything in finance charges and you still are, then you are either too stupid or lazy to do anything about it.

If you are paying them because of no other choice, it is time to get your finances in order, and NEVER pay them again.

They will kill you, absolutely kill you, and you will be fighting them forever, if you do not eliminate them from your life]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as I can tell, paying anything in finance charges to me equates to either stupidity, apathy, or lack of financial means.</p>
<p>If you can afford not to pay anything in finance charges and you still are, then you are either too stupid or lazy to do anything about it.</p>
<p>If you are paying them because of no other choice, it is time to get your finances in order, and NEVER pay them again.</p>
<p>They will kill you, absolutely kill you, and you will be fighting them forever, if you do not eliminate them from your life</p>
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		<title>By: Tricia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tricia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 02:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Shevy,
AND, they did this while raising a family, saving the money to prepay everything. My mother&#039;s funeral will not be as elaborate, she wants to be cremated, no mass or wake. I made her write her own &#039;obituary&#039; a few years ago, my reasoning being that we wouldn&#039;t know where she went to school, when she graduated or all those other details for the paper. It was a fun time I tell ya!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shevy,<br />
AND, they did this while raising a family, saving the money to prepay everything. My mother&#8217;s funeral will not be as elaborate, she wants to be cremated, no mass or wake. I made her write her own &#8216;obituary&#8217; a few years ago, my reasoning being that we wouldn&#8217;t know where she went to school, when she graduated or all those other details for the paper. It was a fun time I tell ya!</p>
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		<title>By: Shevy</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2010/01/20/trimming-the-average-budget-miscellaneous-including-a-surprising-biggie/#comment-848198</link>
		<dc:creator>Shevy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 02:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Tricia
I&#039;m sorry for your loss but, you&#039;re right, your parents really rock! It is rare, rare, rare to prepare that thoroughly for such an event and they are to be commended for having done so, far in advance.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tricia<br />
I&#8217;m sorry for your loss but, you&#8217;re right, your parents really rock! It is rare, rare, rare to prepare that thoroughly for such an event and they are to be commended for having done so, far in advance.</p>
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		<title>By: Leah</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2010/01/20/trimming-the-average-budget-miscellaneous-including-a-surprising-biggie/#comment-848179</link>
		<dc:creator>Leah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 00:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ #2, steven:

If you run your debit card as a credit card, it&#039;s treated as a credit transaction, and the governing law is the Consumer Credit Protection Act.  Under the CCPA, you are only liable for a total of $50 worth of fraudulent charges.

If you run your debit card as a debit card using a PIN, the governing law is the Electronic Funds Transfer Act.  In the event of unauthorized charges, you&#039;re liable for either $50, $500, or ALL of the charges -- your amount of liability depends on whether you know about the charges and how quickly you notify your bank.

Wikipedia has generally decent information on both of these if you&#039;d like to research further!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ #2, steven:</p>
<p>If you run your debit card as a credit card, it&#8217;s treated as a credit transaction, and the governing law is the Consumer Credit Protection Act.  Under the CCPA, you are only liable for a total of $50 worth of fraudulent charges.</p>
<p>If you run your debit card as a debit card using a PIN, the governing law is the Electronic Funds Transfer Act.  In the event of unauthorized charges, you&#8217;re liable for either $50, $500, or ALL of the charges &#8212; your amount of liability depends on whether you know about the charges and how quickly you notify your bank.</p>
<p>Wikipedia has generally decent information on both of these if you&#8217;d like to research further!</p>
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		<title>By: Ari Herzog</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2010/01/20/trimming-the-average-budget-miscellaneous-including-a-surprising-biggie/#comment-848176</link>
		<dc:creator>Ari Herzog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 00:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Where&#039;s the logic in cutting credit cards? If you want to protect your money and reduce risk, cut up the debit cards and use credit to pay for things, then pay the balance each month.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where&#8217;s the logic in cutting credit cards? If you want to protect your money and reduce risk, cut up the debit cards and use credit to pay for things, then pay the balance each month.</p>
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		<title>By: Leah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 23:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think it was mentioned in another thread, but it&#039;s worth it to point out that signing for a debit card instead of using a PIN costs the merchant significantly more.  If you&#039;d like things to be a little bit cheaper overall, it&#039;s worth it to pay in cash.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it was mentioned in another thread, but it&#8217;s worth it to point out that signing for a debit card instead of using a PIN costs the merchant significantly more.  If you&#8217;d like things to be a little bit cheaper overall, it&#8217;s worth it to pay in cash.</p>
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		<title>By: chacha1</title>
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		<dc:creator>chacha1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 23:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ Tricia, condolences for your loss. 
@ Jennifer, LOL!  Yikes indeed.  I NEVER talk about my finances with my parents, except to remind them, when they start getting judgy about the fact that DH and I take vacations, that they&#039;re not paying any of my expenses.

You&#039;d think &quot;miscellaneous&quot; would be the easiest to cut, until you look at everything it covers.  That &quot;average CC debt&quot; figure has been kicking around for a long time now ... I&#039;ll bet it&#039;s pretty inaccurate.

Since accounting and legal fees are in the &quot;miscellaneous&quot; category, I&#039;d add a tip - for cutting those in the future - to use Nolo.com to research legal issues so you know what kind of legal services you need (if any); and take a basic accounting (or personal finance!) class at the local community college.  

Apparently some people pay tax preparers to fill out a 1040-EZ, lots of people pay for help filling out a basic 1040, and these things are just not that hard to do once you stop being scared of the IRS publications.  

Or of course, take a class to BECOME a certified tax preparer, and then you have another income possibility.  :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Tricia, condolences for your loss.<br />
@ Jennifer, LOL!  Yikes indeed.  I NEVER talk about my finances with my parents, except to remind them, when they start getting judgy about the fact that DH and I take vacations, that they&#8217;re not paying any of my expenses.</p>
<p>You&#8217;d think &#8220;miscellaneous&#8221; would be the easiest to cut, until you look at everything it covers.  That &#8220;average CC debt&#8221; figure has been kicking around for a long time now &#8230; I&#8217;ll bet it&#8217;s pretty inaccurate.</p>
<p>Since accounting and legal fees are in the &#8220;miscellaneous&#8221; category, I&#8217;d add a tip &#8211; for cutting those in the future &#8211; to use Nolo.com to research legal issues so you know what kind of legal services you need (if any); and take a basic accounting (or personal finance!) class at the local community college.  </p>
<p>Apparently some people pay tax preparers to fill out a 1040-EZ, lots of people pay for help filling out a basic 1040, and these things are just not that hard to do once you stop being scared of the IRS publications.  </p>
<p>Or of course, take a class to BECOME a certified tax preparer, and then you have another income possibility.  :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Troy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Troy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 22:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[JD:

I think your rebuttal is a bit misleading as well.  The Study average assumes all households 18 years and older.

But for most households ages 25-65, which encompases most peoples working years, the average is likely closer to $8,000.  About 40% of the population in this country is under 25 and older than 65.

And about 15% is between 18-25 or 65+.

This skewes your numbers.  What is says is families during their working years are in debt.  Lots of them.  Yes, they may finally get out once they retire, but until then they are drowning.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JD:</p>
<p>I think your rebuttal is a bit misleading as well.  The Study average assumes all households 18 years and older.</p>
<p>But for most households ages 25-65, which encompases most peoples working years, the average is likely closer to $8,000.  About 40% of the population in this country is under 25 and older than 65.</p>
<p>And about 15% is between 18-25 or 65+.</p>
<p>This skewes your numbers.  What is says is families during their working years are in debt.  Lots of them.  Yes, they may finally get out once they retire, but until then they are drowning.</p>
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		<title>By: Tricia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tricia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 22:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Shevy,
My father died last week, and his whole funeral was prepaid almost 15 years ago. He picked out his own casket, selected the music, even the organist tip was included, the plot, the headstone etc-all paid for.  The only items my mother had to pay for were the flowers, the final date engraving (which she is going to prepay for her own date), and the hall/catering. But they also had a burial account, which covered that. We walked in, discussed the plans with the funeral home, and left. I can&#039;t imagine trying to cope with a death AND figure out the money! My parents rocked!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shevy,<br />
My father died last week, and his whole funeral was prepaid almost 15 years ago. He picked out his own casket, selected the music, even the organist tip was included, the plot, the headstone etc-all paid for.  The only items my mother had to pay for were the flowers, the final date engraving (which she is going to prepay for her own date), and the hall/catering. But they also had a burial account, which covered that. We walked in, discussed the plans with the funeral home, and left. I can&#8217;t imagine trying to cope with a death AND figure out the money! My parents rocked!</p>
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		<title>By: Shevy</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2010/01/20/trimming-the-average-budget-miscellaneous-including-a-surprising-biggie/#comment-848111</link>
		<dc:creator>Shevy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 22:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@lurker carl
Here&#039;s the definition of the misc category:
Miscellaneous includes safety deposit box rental, checking account fees and other bank service charges, credit card memberships, legal fees, accounting fees, funerals, cemetery lots, union dues, occupational expenses, expenses for other properties, and finance charges other than those for mortgages and vehicles.

Lucky there are so many folks who *don&#039;t* carry a balance or the amount would be much higher than $808 for this category.  Funerals and cemetery plots are really big ticket items that also affect the numbers here.  How many folks out there have bought a plot and/or paid ahead of time for their funeral?  It can be a huge shock to the family you left behind to have to make those decisions *and pay in full for them* before the funeral.  It sounds bad, but I&#039;m guessing that funeral directors know you&#039;ll sign on the dotted line in the middle of your shock and grief but that their chances of getting paid probably decline significantly once the person is buried.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@lurker carl<br />
Here&#8217;s the definition of the misc category:<br />
Miscellaneous includes safety deposit box rental, checking account fees and other bank service charges, credit card memberships, legal fees, accounting fees, funerals, cemetery lots, union dues, occupational expenses, expenses for other properties, and finance charges other than those for mortgages and vehicles.</p>
<p>Lucky there are so many folks who *don&#8217;t* carry a balance or the amount would be much higher than $808 for this category.  Funerals and cemetery plots are really big ticket items that also affect the numbers here.  How many folks out there have bought a plot and/or paid ahead of time for their funeral?  It can be a huge shock to the family you left behind to have to make those decisions *and pay in full for them* before the funeral.  It sounds bad, but I&#8217;m guessing that funeral directors know you&#8217;ll sign on the dotted line in the middle of your shock and grief but that their chances of getting paid probably decline significantly once the person is buried.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2010/01/20/trimming-the-average-budget-miscellaneous-including-a-surprising-biggie/#comment-848106</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 21:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yikes! That &quot;tell others&quot; one sounds scary indeed. I&#039;m 38, and I don&#039;t think I feel up to telling my parents what my credit card debt is. I can see it being a real motivator, though!

The detailed debt reduction plan is very good. I did that as part of my New Year&#039;s resolutions, and I find it focuses me. Instead of me saying &quot;was I going to make an extra payment this week?&quot; I know exactly when I&#039;m making extra payments, and I know when certain debts will be paid off. Keep up the good work!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yikes! That &#8220;tell others&#8221; one sounds scary indeed. I&#8217;m 38, and I don&#8217;t think I feel up to telling my parents what my credit card debt is. I can see it being a real motivator, though!</p>
<p>The detailed debt reduction plan is very good. I did that as part of my New Year&#8217;s resolutions, and I find it focuses me. Instead of me saying &#8220;was I going to make an extra payment this week?&#8221; I know exactly when I&#8217;m making extra payments, and I know when certain debts will be paid off. Keep up the good work!</p>
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		<title>By: lurker carl</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2010/01/20/trimming-the-average-budget-miscellaneous-including-a-surprising-biggie/#comment-848099</link>
		<dc:creator>lurker carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 21:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was wondering about the numbers.  If $800 is dedicated to interest on consumer credit cards and personal loans, where does the final $8 go?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was wondering about the numbers.  If $800 is dedicated to interest on consumer credit cards and personal loans, where does the final $8 go?</p>
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