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		<title>By: Cheryl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cheryl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 11:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For Mal: write down the titles and return the books if you still have the receipt. Go to paperback swap and find them, or get them on ebay or half.com and relist when you&#039;re done. Or go to the library and request them, if they don&#039;t have them, they can usually get an interlibrary loan. 
For movies, I add the ones currently playing at the theater to my Netflix wishlist, so when they come out on DVD, I&#039;ll have them shipped to me. The library in town also has a nice collection of movies. The library nearby even loans artwork!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For Mal: write down the titles and return the books if you still have the receipt. Go to paperback swap and find them, or get them on ebay or half.com and relist when you&#8217;re done. Or go to the library and request them, if they don&#8217;t have them, they can usually get an interlibrary loan.<br />
For movies, I add the ones currently playing at the theater to my Netflix wishlist, so when they come out on DVD, I&#8217;ll have them shipped to me. The library in town also has a nice collection of movies. The library nearby even loans artwork!</p>
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		<title>By: prufock</title>
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		<dc:creator>prufock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 21:35:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would add &quot;Fix what you can&quot; to the advice. Not much that can be done to change Jenny&#039;s decision, but Mal could return any books for which he still has the receipt.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would add &#8220;Fix what you can&#8221; to the advice. Not much that can be done to change Jenny&#8217;s decision, but Mal could return any books for which he still has the receipt.</p>
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		<title>By: jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 18:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think Trent and Karen both make good points about Mal&#039;s situation.  It could be either situation or even a combination of both.   If Mal loves books and has no budget for books then I think adding some book spending in the regular budget is a good idea.   But Mal should also take Trents suggestion and consider if there are other reasons for the spending such as depression or stress.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Trent and Karen both make good points about Mal&#8217;s situation.  It could be either situation or even a combination of both.   If Mal loves books and has no budget for books then I think adding some book spending in the regular budget is a good idea.   But Mal should also take Trents suggestion and consider if there are other reasons for the spending such as depression or stress.</p>
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		<title>By: CB</title>
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		<dc:creator>CB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 17:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The main problem with the stock market is that most of us are just funneling our dollars into it and paying the fees for managed funds, that in almost all cases don&#039;t even match the market. We don&#039;t learn enough to make good investments in individual stocks.

Index funds are low fee and match the market, and that can be good or bad depending on where the market stands. The advantage of the stock market is that one can buy shares in companies of value whose stock price is below value and that have a track record of success and a future that is amenable to success. Index funds can be gamed, too, and one of mine has been a good one, the other poor (both from the same financial institution whose goal is to make money off my investments, not necessarily guarantee me any return).

It takes  interest, attention, and some self education--but who has more life energy invested in your investment money than you do? 

I&#039;m working my way through Phil Town&#039;s &quot;Rule #1&quot; and &quot;Payback&quot; and am going to evaluate all of my investment based on value, not price, and will also invest the time to cover about five stocks. Of course, I&#039;ll leave all of those index funds and basic mutual funds in place until I have recouped all of my investment dollars.

As with any approach, I&#039;m taking from it what I feel works for me, but now with the internet, we can learn a lot more about companies than possible before.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The main problem with the stock market is that most of us are just funneling our dollars into it and paying the fees for managed funds, that in almost all cases don&#8217;t even match the market. We don&#8217;t learn enough to make good investments in individual stocks.</p>
<p>Index funds are low fee and match the market, and that can be good or bad depending on where the market stands. The advantage of the stock market is that one can buy shares in companies of value whose stock price is below value and that have a track record of success and a future that is amenable to success. Index funds can be gamed, too, and one of mine has been a good one, the other poor (both from the same financial institution whose goal is to make money off my investments, not necessarily guarantee me any return).</p>
<p>It takes  interest, attention, and some self education&#8211;but who has more life energy invested in your investment money than you do? </p>
<p>I&#8217;m working my way through Phil Town&#8217;s &#8220;Rule #1&#8243; and &#8220;Payback&#8221; and am going to evaluate all of my investment based on value, not price, and will also invest the time to cover about five stocks. Of course, I&#8217;ll leave all of those index funds and basic mutual funds in place until I have recouped all of my investment dollars.</p>
<p>As with any approach, I&#8217;m taking from it what I feel works for me, but now with the internet, we can learn a lot more about companies than possible before.</p>
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		<title>By: JuliB</title>
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		<dc:creator>JuliB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 17:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jenny - Don&#039;t feel like you have to put all in the market.  My 401K at work goes into a money market fund.  My roll-over IRAs are fully in the market.  Whatever percentage you feel comfortable with is what you should shoot for.  I don&#039;t like the feeling of being 1/2 wiped out by a low in the market, so I&#039;ve protected myself against that.  Sure - I&#039;ll never triple my money over night, but I don&#039;t expect too...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jenny &#8211; Don&#8217;t feel like you have to put all in the market.  My 401K at work goes into a money market fund.  My roll-over IRAs are fully in the market.  Whatever percentage you feel comfortable with is what you should shoot for.  I don&#8217;t like the feeling of being 1/2 wiped out by a low in the market, so I&#8217;ve protected myself against that.  Sure &#8211; I&#8217;ll never triple my money over night, but I don&#8217;t expect too&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: JuliB</title>
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		<dc:creator>JuliB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 16:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I get books every week through paperbackswap.com .  All it costs is the postage to mail books out to other people via media mail.  

How often books come to you probably depends on your reading tastes, but I tend towards the less popular. 

I get &quot;new&quot; books so frequently that I never feel deprived.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I get books every week through paperbackswap.com .  All it costs is the postage to mail books out to other people via media mail.  </p>
<p>How often books come to you probably depends on your reading tastes, but I tend towards the less popular. </p>
<p>I get &#8220;new&#8221; books so frequently that I never feel deprived.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 16:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jenny&#039;s situation is a good reminder that many people make investing decisions based on emotion (fear &amp; greed) rather than reason. Trent&#039;s advice is a good starting point: Jenny and her husband need to determine their real risk tolerance and then determine their asset allocation. Maybe they&#039;re so risk averse that they shouldn&#039;t be in the market at all. They could use a retirement calculator to determine if they should increase their retirement savings, based on type of investment.

If they do put a portion of their retirement savings back into the market, then they should consider rebalancing annually. At the end of 2008, I held my nose and forced myself to move money from my bond funds back into my stock funds to rebalance my account (I&#039;m near retirement and want to maintain 50-50 or so). As a result of the rebalancing and the market&#039;s performance, my balance is back to where it was prior to the economic collapse (I&#039;ve since moved money back into bonds to rebalance again). The goal of rebalancing is to keep your investments in line with your risk tolerance. Sometimes it results in positive returns as well.

Back to Jenny: if they decide to put money back in the market, I&#039;d do it gradually, a kind of dollar cost averaging. If they have, say $24,000 (to make the math easy) to put in the market, I&#039;d put $2000 a month in the market. If the market moves upward significantly in the next 12 months, they would miss some of that. On the other hand, if the market moves down signficantly, they would be buying at lower prices. It&#039;s just a way of reducing the risk a little.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jenny&#8217;s situation is a good reminder that many people make investing decisions based on emotion (fear &amp; greed) rather than reason. Trent&#8217;s advice is a good starting point: Jenny and her husband need to determine their real risk tolerance and then determine their asset allocation. Maybe they&#8217;re so risk averse that they shouldn&#8217;t be in the market at all. They could use a retirement calculator to determine if they should increase their retirement savings, based on type of investment.</p>
<p>If they do put a portion of their retirement savings back into the market, then they should consider rebalancing annually. At the end of 2008, I held my nose and forced myself to move money from my bond funds back into my stock funds to rebalance my account (I&#8217;m near retirement and want to maintain 50-50 or so). As a result of the rebalancing and the market&#8217;s performance, my balance is back to where it was prior to the economic collapse (I&#8217;ve since moved money back into bonds to rebalance again). The goal of rebalancing is to keep your investments in line with your risk tolerance. Sometimes it results in positive returns as well.</p>
<p>Back to Jenny: if they decide to put money back in the market, I&#8217;d do it gradually, a kind of dollar cost averaging. If they have, say $24,000 (to make the math easy) to put in the market, I&#8217;d put $2000 a month in the market. If the market moves upward significantly in the next 12 months, they would miss some of that. On the other hand, if the market moves down signficantly, they would be buying at lower prices. It&#8217;s just a way of reducing the risk a little.</p>
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		<title>By: Johanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 15:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Also, I will say right now that I will not be participating in any more-literate-than-thou contests, because I know I would lose.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, I will say right now that I will not be participating in any more-literate-than-thou contests, because I know I would lose.</p>
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		<title>By: kat</title>
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		<dc:creator>kat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 15:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wasn&#039;t trying to say I was more &quot;literate than thou&quot; just that you can budget for the things that are important to you and avoid the spluge problem. I have friends you do this with sports packages, movies, fabric, yarn, all kinds of things.  It&#039;s a question of avoiding the famine/pigout problem.  You have to work in the things that are important to you-be it an item or high end high calorie chocolate. that is the only way a budget or a diet will work for the long term.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wasn&#8217;t trying to say I was more &#8220;literate than thou&#8221; just that you can budget for the things that are important to you and avoid the spluge problem. I have friends you do this with sports packages, movies, fabric, yarn, all kinds of things.  It&#8217;s a question of avoiding the famine/pigout problem.  You have to work in the things that are important to you-be it an item or high end high calorie chocolate. that is the only way a budget or a diet will work for the long term.</p>
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		<title>By: Johanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 15:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@guinness: You&#039;re right that certain &quot;good pleasures&quot; tend to be treated differently than other &quot;bad pleasures&quot; among personal finance folks.  But I thought Karen&#039;s advice was spot on too, and equally applicable to pay-per-view TV, or drinks at a bar, or designer clothes, or anything else that someone might enjoy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@guinness: You&#8217;re right that certain &#8220;good pleasures&#8221; tend to be treated differently than other &#8220;bad pleasures&#8221; among personal finance folks.  But I thought Karen&#8217;s advice was spot on too, and equally applicable to pay-per-view TV, or drinks at a bar, or designer clothes, or anything else that someone might enjoy.</p>
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		<title>By: guinness416</title>
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		<dc:creator>guinness416</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 15:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The books area a red herring folks.  I know every comment thread here involves people falling over themselves to point out how more-literate-than-thou they are, and expect if it were pay per view TV events he was buying the responses would be different, but regularly spending a few hundred bucks in one shot on something and regretting it afterward is an issue and Trent&#039;s advice is spot on.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The books area a red herring folks.  I know every comment thread here involves people falling over themselves to point out how more-literate-than-thou they are, and expect if it were pay per view TV events he was buying the responses would be different, but regularly spending a few hundred bucks in one shot on something and regretting it afterward is an issue and Trent&#8217;s advice is spot on.</p>
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		<title>By: kat</title>
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		<dc:creator>kat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 14:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Books are a major part of my budget.  I do use the library a lot, and have only purchased one new book in hardcover in two years. I have an excellent used bookstore I haunt for used books on a regular basis. They have a great trade policy, so I can indulge without breaking the budget. I learned to read early, and am a natural speed reader, so without careful planning I could really break the bank buying books.  Book money in my budget comes right after basic needs-it goes mortgage, utilities, food, books, then debt paydown and saving.  I don&#039;t think I could function without something to read.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Books are a major part of my budget.  I do use the library a lot, and have only purchased one new book in hardcover in two years. I have an excellent used bookstore I haunt for used books on a regular basis. They have a great trade policy, so I can indulge without breaking the budget. I learned to read early, and am a natural speed reader, so without careful planning I could really break the bank buying books.  Book money in my budget comes right after basic needs-it goes mortgage, utilities, food, books, then debt paydown and saving.  I don&#8217;t think I could function without something to read.</p>
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		<title>By: Johanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 14:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For Mal: As long as you are making personal finance progress, I don&#039;t think the occasional splurge is necessarily a problem.  It only becomes a problem if you&#039;re splurging so much that it undoes a big chunk of your progress.

Something that helps me, and might help you, is the Borders Rewards program.  They send you email coupons every week for a discount (usually 30% these days) off any one item.  For me, these coupons are a huge incentive to limit my Borders purchases to one book at a time - if there&#039;s more than one that I want, I can wait until the next week, when I&#039;ll have another coupon.  If you think that buying just one book (rather than ten) would be enough to get the &quot;urge to splurge&quot; out of your system, it might be worth considering.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For Mal: As long as you are making personal finance progress, I don&#8217;t think the occasional splurge is necessarily a problem.  It only becomes a problem if you&#8217;re splurging so much that it undoes a big chunk of your progress.</p>
<p>Something that helps me, and might help you, is the Borders Rewards program.  They send you email coupons every week for a discount (usually 30% these days) off any one item.  For me, these coupons are a huge incentive to limit my Borders purchases to one book at a time &#8211; if there&#8217;s more than one that I want, I can wait until the next week, when I&#8217;ll have another coupon.  If you think that buying just one book (rather than ten) would be enough to get the &#8220;urge to splurge&#8221; out of your system, it might be worth considering.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 14:19:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think Mal&#039;s issue could be the result of severe deprivation.  This sounds like a dieter who says &quot;I will never eat another sweet again!&quot; and denies themselves all cake and cookies for a month or two only to go wild on the birthday cake.  Book buying can be done in moderation and without spending $200 at a time.  If buying (and reading) books is a hobby Mal enjoys, there is no reason that buying books can&#039;t be worked into a budget.  If the money is there to be spent without guilt on a regular basis, then (usually) there won&#039;t be a spending spree every couple of months.

I am financially responsible.  And I am a reader.  I use the library on a regular basis, but yes, sometimes I still buy books.  Some things aren&#039;t available at the library or sometimes I want something for reference.

I don&#039;t think this problem really involves some deep-seated problem.  Just a lack of responsible and honest budgeting.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Mal&#8217;s issue could be the result of severe deprivation.  This sounds like a dieter who says &#8220;I will never eat another sweet again!&#8221; and denies themselves all cake and cookies for a month or two only to go wild on the birthday cake.  Book buying can be done in moderation and without spending $200 at a time.  If buying (and reading) books is a hobby Mal enjoys, there is no reason that buying books can&#8217;t be worked into a budget.  If the money is there to be spent without guilt on a regular basis, then (usually) there won&#8217;t be a spending spree every couple of months.</p>
<p>I am financially responsible.  And I am a reader.  I use the library on a regular basis, but yes, sometimes I still buy books.  Some things aren&#8217;t available at the library or sometimes I want something for reference.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think this problem really involves some deep-seated problem.  Just a lack of responsible and honest budgeting.</p>
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