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		<title>By: Ashley</title>
		<link>http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2010/03/30/low-calorie-food-and-long-term-costs/comment-page-2/#comment-909219</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 09:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just one more thought to add to the discussion...How many of us actually need to consume 2000 calories on a daily basis?

I am currently nursing a 5 month old baby and don&#039;t even need to eat that many calories. 1800 is fine for me, and 1400 when I&#039;m not nursing. (I&#039;m a 5&#039;4, 145 pound female). My husband who is 6&#039;4 only eats about 1800 calories a day as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just one more thought to add to the discussion&#8230;How many of us actually need to consume 2000 calories on a daily basis?</p>
<p>I am currently nursing a 5 month old baby and don&#8217;t even need to eat that many calories. 1800 is fine for me, and 1400 when I&#8217;m not nursing. (I&#8217;m a 5&#8217;4, 145 pound female). My husband who is 6&#8217;4 only eats about 1800 calories a day as well.</p>
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		<title>By: mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2010 18:49:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fresh veggies and fruits are necessary for one&#039;s digestion, fish and nuts good for one&#039;s brain and development. I live in the pnw and fish is plentiful and not too expensive salmon oh, my goodness and lot of cod and halibut..blackberries, marionberries, strawberries grow wild, huckelberries in the high mountain areas and foraging for wild mushrooms net a lovely bounty..one could live off the land out here if one had to..just don&#039;t eat much meat at all, chicken, fish, nuts, berries and clams are great too..poor people don&#039;t have much access to the wild stuff though and the fish is out of sight for most in their neighborhood markets, it rains most of the year so heat, fuel and warm clothes are costly, it just depends upon where you live in this the greatest country..please try to be non-judmental in the greatest depression since the great depression many people lost living wages which will never come back..be kind!!!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fresh veggies and fruits are necessary for one&#8217;s digestion, fish and nuts good for one&#8217;s brain and development. I live in the pnw and fish is plentiful and not too expensive salmon oh, my goodness and lot of cod and halibut..blackberries, marionberries, strawberries grow wild, huckelberries in the high mountain areas and foraging for wild mushrooms net a lovely bounty..one could live off the land out here if one had to..just don&#8217;t eat much meat at all, chicken, fish, nuts, berries and clams are great too..poor people don&#8217;t have much access to the wild stuff though and the fish is out of sight for most in their neighborhood markets, it rains most of the year so heat, fuel and warm clothes are costly, it just depends upon where you live in this the greatest country..please try to be non-judmental in the greatest depression since the great depression many people lost living wages which will never come back..be kind!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: erzebet</title>
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		<dc:creator>erzebet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Apr 2010 14:07:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>healthy food is very cheap. check the book &quot;wise traditions&quot; by sally fallon, she taught me so much and i eat so many nutrients now with so little money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>healthy food is very cheap. check the book &#8220;wise traditions&#8221; by sally fallon, she taught me so much and i eat so many nutrients now with so little money.</p>
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		<title>By: Jordan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 00:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Trent,
I really appreciate the time you put into thinking up good solutions to the dilemma of eating well for not-too-much money. For those of us who don&#039;t have the time to work this out for ourselves, it&#039;s very valuable information!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Trent,<br />
I really appreciate the time you put into thinking up good solutions to the dilemma of eating well for not-too-much money. For those of us who don&#8217;t have the time to work this out for ourselves, it&#8217;s very valuable information!</p>
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		<title>By: Sharon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sharon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 00:42:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have lived in NJ in a &quot;Food Desert&quot;.  I knew about Aldi&#039;s and knew where one was.  It was over an hour on the bus.  In the opposite direction of the hour and a half I rode the bus to work. (3 hours total, after spending 9 hours at work.  12 hours a day, just to get home.)
Even from a more local store, there are problems.  Frozen food thaws, fresh fruits bruise from the bumping on the bus, and canned food is HEAVY!
My budget and my health improved when I got a car.
But politics and place factor into it.  Milk in Jersey was more than $3 a gallon.  Usually closer to $4.  Soda was high at $1.39 for 2 liters.  Here in Oregon, milk is usually just over $2  gallon and soda is usually $1.69 for a 2-liter. I haven&#039;t bought too much soda here.  Milk still seems like a wonderful luxury and I am &quot;milking&quot; it for all I can.  
City folks should grow food on their balconies?  In most large cities balconies are a luxury as well.  And if you have one, it may face north and a building four stories higher than yours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have lived in NJ in a &#8220;Food Desert&#8221;.  I knew about Aldi&#8217;s and knew where one was.  It was over an hour on the bus.  In the opposite direction of the hour and a half I rode the bus to work. (3 hours total, after spending 9 hours at work.  12 hours a day, just to get home.)<br />
Even from a more local store, there are problems.  Frozen food thaws, fresh fruits bruise from the bumping on the bus, and canned food is HEAVY!<br />
My budget and my health improved when I got a car.<br />
But politics and place factor into it.  Milk in Jersey was more than $3 a gallon.  Usually closer to $4.  Soda was high at $1.39 for 2 liters.  Here in Oregon, milk is usually just over $2  gallon and soda is usually $1.69 for a 2-liter. I haven&#8217;t bought too much soda here.  Milk still seems like a wonderful luxury and I am &#8220;milking&#8221; it for all I can.<br />
City folks should grow food on their balconies?  In most large cities balconies are a luxury as well.  And if you have one, it may face north and a building four stories higher than yours.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2010 22:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gretchen, you are correct. I wish everyone had access to an Aldi! What I wanted to indirectly imply was that there are great bargains to be had almost anywhere. One just has to keep an eye on their local stores. The really really good deals like the potatoes at $1.49 for 10 pounds may not come along often but I know if stored correctly I can make those last two maybe three months. Now if I could only figure out how to make the .49c bagged salad they have this week last two months.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gretchen, you are correct. I wish everyone had access to an Aldi! What I wanted to indirectly imply was that there are great bargains to be had almost anywhere. One just has to keep an eye on their local stores. The really really good deals like the potatoes at $1.49 for 10 pounds may not come along often but I know if stored correctly I can make those last two maybe three months. Now if I could only figure out how to make the .49c bagged salad they have this week last two months.</p>
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		<title>By: Georgia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Georgia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2010 19:44:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had an epiphany after 50 years of age.  I just could not figure out how my mother, who never finished the 6th grade, could know how to feed us such nutritious meals.  Meat or meat substitute (fried green tomatoes, yum!), only one starch besides bread, lots of veggies (fresh or canned, no freezer then for us), fruit for dessert, and once a week she would bake pie or cake for our Sunday night dessert/treat.  If there was some left, we could not gorge.  It went into the fridge and used for another meal. We also always had lots of freshly canned jellies and jams - pear honey, rhubarb marmalade, blackberry jam, and so on.

And, then one day, it hit me with a big &quot;DUH&quot;!!  We grew 90%+ of our food and the folks would send us out in the summer and go to all our neighbors in a 4 block area who had fruit trees going to waste.  We would offer to pick them for half.  With all that gardening and fruit picking and canning, etc., we also got tons of exercise.  I am overweight but have always been extremely healthy.  At almost 73, I have very mild diabetes, cholesterol (from genes), and some hypertension.  All this because, when I overate it was not sweets or high cal foods.  I overate on everything - fruits, veggies, starches, etc.

With all the semi-tech we have now, even people in large cities can have gardens of good stuff - remember the hanging baskets that you can hang from the porch with tomatoes or strawberries or other items. Also, maybe we can get the nursuries to do those rolls of seeds with veggie seeds instead of flowers.  Wouldn&#039;t that be helpful?

And yes, we do have bananas (NEMO)that cost 29-33 cents a pound often.  I eat one every day I eat dry cereal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had an epiphany after 50 years of age.  I just could not figure out how my mother, who never finished the 6th grade, could know how to feed us such nutritious meals.  Meat or meat substitute (fried green tomatoes, yum!), only one starch besides bread, lots of veggies (fresh or canned, no freezer then for us), fruit for dessert, and once a week she would bake pie or cake for our Sunday night dessert/treat.  If there was some left, we could not gorge.  It went into the fridge and used for another meal. We also always had lots of freshly canned jellies and jams &#8211; pear honey, rhubarb marmalade, blackberry jam, and so on.</p>
<p>And, then one day, it hit me with a big &#8220;DUH&#8221;!!  We grew 90%+ of our food and the folks would send us out in the summer and go to all our neighbors in a 4 block area who had fruit trees going to waste.  We would offer to pick them for half.  With all that gardening and fruit picking and canning, etc., we also got tons of exercise.  I am overweight but have always been extremely healthy.  At almost 73, I have very mild diabetes, cholesterol (from genes), and some hypertension.  All this because, when I overate it was not sweets or high cal foods.  I overate on everything &#8211; fruits, veggies, starches, etc.</p>
<p>With all the semi-tech we have now, even people in large cities can have gardens of good stuff &#8211; remember the hanging baskets that you can hang from the porch with tomatoes or strawberries or other items. Also, maybe we can get the nursuries to do those rolls of seeds with veggie seeds instead of flowers.  Wouldn&#8217;t that be helpful?</p>
<p>And yes, we do have bananas (NEMO)that cost 29-33 cents a pound often.  I eat one every day I eat dry cereal.</p>
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		<title>By: Gretchen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gretchen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2010 17:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Aldi only has great prices if you can get to an Aldi.</description>
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		<title>By: Des</title>
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		<dc:creator>Des</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2010 16:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Diane

I am a vegan myself, so if I implied that eating healthy meatless meals was crazy and time consuming, I apologize. That was not AT ALL my point. I think brevity was my enemy for that comment. The point I was trying to make was that consuming 2000 calories *fresh fruits and vegetables* each and every day is time consuming and unreasonable for most people and is, therefore, not what the authors of the study were suggesting (that was the part of my thought I failed to articulate.) 

Eating vegan is not the same as eating only low-calorie density fresh fruits and vegetables. I think you are confusing &quot;vegan&quot; with &quot;low-fat raw vegan&quot;. 

Eating vegan can be health, quick, and delicious :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Diane</p>
<p>I am a vegan myself, so if I implied that eating healthy meatless meals was crazy and time consuming, I apologize. That was not AT ALL my point. I think brevity was my enemy for that comment. The point I was trying to make was that consuming 2000 calories *fresh fruits and vegetables* each and every day is time consuming and unreasonable for most people and is, therefore, not what the authors of the study were suggesting (that was the part of my thought I failed to articulate.) </p>
<p>Eating vegan is not the same as eating only low-calorie density fresh fruits and vegetables. I think you are confusing &#8220;vegan&#8221; with &#8220;low-fat raw vegan&#8221;. </p>
<p>Eating vegan can be health, quick, and delicious :)</p>
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		<title>By: elderly librarian</title>
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		<dc:creator>elderly librarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2010 16:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with &quot;little pitcher&quot; that all these medications prescribed for middle aged and elderly do have an effect on the stomach and encourage &quot;bland&quot; calorie dense foods and snacks. Never really thought about that.  Also agree home made soy milk is best and the dollar menu is a &quot;splurge&quot; for lower income and even me sometimes! Not eating out in restaurants very much anymore because the food is too salty, etc. I always ask for the burgers and/or fries (heaven forbid!) to have &quot;no salt&quot;.  Sometimes that actually happens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with &#8220;little pitcher&#8221; that all these medications prescribed for middle aged and elderly do have an effect on the stomach and encourage &#8220;bland&#8221; calorie dense foods and snacks. Never really thought about that.  Also agree home made soy milk is best and the dollar menu is a &#8220;splurge&#8221; for lower income and even me sometimes! Not eating out in restaurants very much anymore because the food is too salty, etc. I always ask for the burgers and/or fries (heaven forbid!) to have &#8220;no salt&#8221;.  Sometimes that actually happens.</p>
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		<title>By: Diane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2010 15:27:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Des:  I&#039;m an omnivore (love my pork belly curry, after all!), but I eat many vegan meals - AND I work up to 80 hours a week.  I cook South Indian cuisine a lot though because I like it.  Most of it is vegetarian or vegan. It&#039;s tasty, and doesn&#039;t take forever if you know how to cook.

The idea that cooking healthy, meatless meals is some kind of crazy, time-consuming burden is as much a canard as the idea that healthy food costs a lot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Des:  I&#8217;m an omnivore (love my pork belly curry, after all!), but I eat many vegan meals &#8211; AND I work up to 80 hours a week.  I cook South Indian cuisine a lot though because I like it.  Most of it is vegetarian or vegan. It&#8217;s tasty, and doesn&#8217;t take forever if you know how to cook.</p>
<p>The idea that cooking healthy, meatless meals is some kind of crazy, time-consuming burden is as much a canard as the idea that healthy food costs a lot.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2010 14:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>... if you can get to an Aldi ...</description>
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		<title>By: littlepitcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>littlepitcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2010 14:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Low-income people get fat because junk food is their only affordable reward/splurge.  After an extensive period of deprivation, the drive to &quot;have it all&quot; at a specific bad income level is going to be fulfilled on the pastry aisle, in the deli, or at the burger joints.  The obesity problem will get worse as the population recovers from the recession, and as older Americans are prescribed more statins, which create stomach burn and rawness, and encourage snacking.

My current planning will be to try to avoid grocery stores at all costs, except for shopping for my employers.  A soy milk maker is next on my list, to be able to purchase low-cost soybeans, make my own milk and tofu,  and eventually maybe even add those to a garden plan if I ever have land again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Low-income people get fat because junk food is their only affordable reward/splurge.  After an extensive period of deprivation, the drive to &#8220;have it all&#8221; at a specific bad income level is going to be fulfilled on the pastry aisle, in the deli, or at the burger joints.  The obesity problem will get worse as the population recovers from the recession, and as older Americans are prescribed more statins, which create stomach burn and rawness, and encourage snacking.</p>
<p>My current planning will be to try to avoid grocery stores at all costs, except for shopping for my employers.  A soy milk maker is next on my list, to be able to purchase low-cost soybeans, make my own milk and tofu,  and eventually maybe even add those to a garden plan if I ever have land again.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2010 11:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Want to add as an example this week Aldi&#039;s has baby carrots for .69c a bag, 10lb bags of potatoes for 1.49, and several other great produce items at rock bottom prices. If you buy enough to last a few weeks you have just saved quite a bit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Want to add as an example this week Aldi&#8217;s has baby carrots for .69c a bag, 10lb bags of potatoes for 1.49, and several other great produce items at rock bottom prices. If you buy enough to last a few weeks you have just saved quite a bit.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2010 11:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t believe it takes much effort to eat healthy and keep the cost down. I feed our family of 5 with 4 pets on no more than 75.00 per week and we eat pretty healthy. Lots of fruits and veggies and I cook from scratch most nights. If you are willing to stock up on sales, use coupons and watch sales cycles then it is quite easy to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t believe it takes much effort to eat healthy and keep the cost down. I feed our family of 5 with 4 pets on no more than 75.00 per week and we eat pretty healthy. Lots of fruits and veggies and I cook from scratch most nights. If you are willing to stock up on sales, use coupons and watch sales cycles then it is quite easy to do.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Gage</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Gage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2010 05:54:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thinking about it some more, the real issue is to enable people to get the best nutrition for the least money, allowing for constraints of time, accessibility of food, and know-how.

Seems like we should all just ask our grandmothers or aunties... Many of the cultures that make up the US come from food traditions that make much out of little: beans and rice, red beans and rice, black eyed peas with ham hock and greens, stir fries over rice, pasta with a mostly-tomato sauce. 

So if we could revive that knowledge, we would all eat better AND cheaper!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thinking about it some more, the real issue is to enable people to get the best nutrition for the least money, allowing for constraints of time, accessibility of food, and know-how.</p>
<p>Seems like we should all just ask our grandmothers or aunties&#8230; Many of the cultures that make up the US come from food traditions that make much out of little: beans and rice, red beans and rice, black eyed peas with ham hock and greens, stir fries over rice, pasta with a mostly-tomato sauce. </p>
<p>So if we could revive that knowledge, we would all eat better AND cheaper!</p>
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		<title>By: MattJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>MattJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2010 03:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for your patience, Johanna.   Your first point is excellent and I stand corrected.

The rest of your points are well-argued, but it looks like about half of what they call &#039;low calorie&#039; food can be frozen and/or canned.  Certainly the peppers, tomatoes, and beans they list can be canned and/or frozen.  Further, calories by weight?   Really?  By that measure, sun dried tomatoes (72 calories/oz) are higher-calorie food than canned tomatoes (9 calories/oz), because they lack water.  Nutritionally they&#039;re practically identical, but not by weight... by the amount of fresh tomato you started with.  The canned tomato will be more filling than the dried tomato, but not more filling than the dried tomato plus a glass of water.

Your last paragraph shows that we&#039;re still talking past each other.  I don&#039;t think (and never did) that they meant &quot;you must spend $36/day to eat a healthy diet&quot;.  I&#039;m still arguing that &quot;a diet consisting primarily of low-calorie food costs $36.32 a day&quot; is simply not true, and cannot be extrapolated from the cost of low-calorie food.  (Whether by &#039;primarily&#039; they mean more than half of the weight of the food one eats, which is likely, but not really consistent with the rest of what they write, or whether they mean more than half of the calories comes from low calorie food)  

Rather, a diet consisting primarily of low-calorie food will also still consist to some degree of high-calorie food.  So, if the diet is 50.1% out of the basket of goods that they call low-calorie, then the other 49.9% will be from medium or high-calorie foods, and likely cost very little per calorie, giving you a cost per day MUCH lower than $36.  The more of the diet that one postulates will come from the low-calorie group, (that is, the closer a theoretical daily meal cost gets to $36) the more ridiculous the amount of food one has to consume.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your patience, Johanna.   Your first point is excellent and I stand corrected.</p>
<p>The rest of your points are well-argued, but it looks like about half of what they call &#8216;low calorie&#8217; food can be frozen and/or canned.  Certainly the peppers, tomatoes, and beans they list can be canned and/or frozen.  Further, calories by weight?   Really?  By that measure, sun dried tomatoes (72 calories/oz) are higher-calorie food than canned tomatoes (9 calories/oz), because they lack water.  Nutritionally they&#8217;re practically identical, but not by weight&#8230; by the amount of fresh tomato you started with.  The canned tomato will be more filling than the dried tomato, but not more filling than the dried tomato plus a glass of water.</p>
<p>Your last paragraph shows that we&#8217;re still talking past each other.  I don&#8217;t think (and never did) that they meant &#8220;you must spend $36/day to eat a healthy diet&#8221;.  I&#8217;m still arguing that &#8220;a diet consisting primarily of low-calorie food costs $36.32 a day&#8221; is simply not true, and cannot be extrapolated from the cost of low-calorie food.  (Whether by &#8216;primarily&#8217; they mean more than half of the weight of the food one eats, which is likely, but not really consistent with the rest of what they write, or whether they mean more than half of the calories comes from low calorie food)  </p>
<p>Rather, a diet consisting primarily of low-calorie food will also still consist to some degree of high-calorie food.  So, if the diet is 50.1% out of the basket of goods that they call low-calorie, then the other 49.9% will be from medium or high-calorie foods, and likely cost very little per calorie, giving you a cost per day MUCH lower than $36.  The more of the diet that one postulates will come from the low-calorie group, (that is, the closer a theoretical daily meal cost gets to $36) the more ridiculous the amount of food one has to consume.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 23:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A good way to get protein on a budget is to consider organ meats such as liver, kidney and heart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A good way to get protein on a budget is to consider organ meats such as liver, kidney and heart.</p>
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		<title>By: Johanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 22:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@MattJ: I&#039;ll go with option 3: The authors of the press release did not fully anticipate all the ways in which their words could be misinterpreted.

First, &quot;the lowest-calorie foods were mostly fresh fruits and vegetables&quot; does not actually mean &quot;the lowest-calorie foods included every fruit and every vegetable.&quot;

Second, I find it totally believable that their &quot;low-calorie&quot; category really did include mostly fresh fruits and vegetables, as opposed to frozen or canned, because of the fruits and vegetables that it includes.  When&#039;s the last time you saw canned or frozen lettuce?  Or watermelon?  Frozen broccoli and spinach might be included, but your can of corn would probably be in the next tier up.

Third, I really think they were just trying to be helpful in translating the quantities into a 2000-calorie diet, figuring that that&#039;s the amount of calories that most people would be most familiar with.  Maybe they should have anticipated that some people would read &quot;a diet consisting primarily of low-calorie food costs $36.32 a day&quot; to mean &quot;you must spend $36/day to eat a healthy diet,&quot; but when you look at what they actually wrote, rather than what you originally thought they meant, I don&#039;t think they actually said anything wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@MattJ: I&#8217;ll go with option 3: The authors of the press release did not fully anticipate all the ways in which their words could be misinterpreted.</p>
<p>First, &#8220;the lowest-calorie foods were mostly fresh fruits and vegetables&#8221; does not actually mean &#8220;the lowest-calorie foods included every fruit and every vegetable.&#8221;</p>
<p>Second, I find it totally believable that their &#8220;low-calorie&#8221; category really did include mostly fresh fruits and vegetables, as opposed to frozen or canned, because of the fruits and vegetables that it includes.  When&#8217;s the last time you saw canned or frozen lettuce?  Or watermelon?  Frozen broccoli and spinach might be included, but your can of corn would probably be in the next tier up.</p>
<p>Third, I really think they were just trying to be helpful in translating the quantities into a 2000-calorie diet, figuring that that&#8217;s the amount of calories that most people would be most familiar with.  Maybe they should have anticipated that some people would read &#8220;a diet consisting primarily of low-calorie food costs $36.32 a day&#8221; to mean &#8220;you must spend $36/day to eat a healthy diet,&#8221; but when you look at what they actually wrote, rather than what you originally thought they meant, I don&#8217;t think they actually said anything wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 22:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Noadi: &quot;I can tell you that Home Ec is a thing of the past.&quot;

Our local high schools don&#039;t have Home Ec.  They DO have classes called &quot;Culinary arts: cooking&quot;,  &quot;Family and Consumer Science&quot;, or &quot;Food and Fitness&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Noadi: &#8220;I can tell you that Home Ec is a thing of the past.&#8221;</p>
<p>Our local high schools don&#8217;t have Home Ec.  They DO have classes called &#8220;Culinary arts: cooking&#8221;,  &#8220;Family and Consumer Science&#8221;, or &#8220;Food and Fitness&#8221;.</p>
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